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		<title>By: The People</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/toc-welcomes-new-members/comment-page-1/#comment-32131</link>
		<dc:creator>The People</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fedupofPAP</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/toc-welcomes-new-members/comment-page-1/#comment-29231</link>
		<dc:creator>fedupofPAP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 12:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has reference to 2) Observer&#039;s request for a more balance reporting.
I&#039;m all for it if the mainstream mass media do likewise. The fact of the matter is that our mainstream mass media is almost like a govt&#039;s mouthpiece. TOC and some of the other blogs are the only places to give vent to alternative points of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has reference to 2) Observer&#8217;s request for a more balance reporting.<br />
I&#8217;m all for it if the mainstream mass media do likewise. The fact of the matter is that our mainstream mass media is almost like a govt&#8217;s mouthpiece. TOC and some of the other blogs are the only places to give vent to alternative points of view.</p>
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		<title>By: tiredsingaporean</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/toc-welcomes-new-members/comment-page-1/#comment-28102</link>
		<dc:creator>tiredsingaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The folks in SG are so badly treated by the party they chosen to look after them all these years, however, even in the time of crisis, not that the garment did offer their help, they even pushes the people further by increasing more taxes from ERP, public transports and electrical hikes, and worst still trying to get away from responsibilties when more than 10,000 citizens&#039; life savings were being wiped out through the national bank mis-selling products. So, will the PAP still have the guts to ask the people for another 5 more years term? How? Tell Us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The folks in SG are so badly treated by the party they chosen to look after them all these years, however, even in the time of crisis, not that the garment did offer their help, they even pushes the people further by increasing more taxes from ERP, public transports and electrical hikes, and worst still trying to get away from responsibilties when more than 10,000 citizens&#8217; life savings were being wiped out through the national bank mis-selling products. So, will the PAP still have the guts to ask the people for another 5 more years term? How? Tell Us!</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/toc-welcomes-new-members/comment-page-1/#comment-28100</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To #2:

Someone asked me lately, surely not supporting PAP shouldn&#039;t mean not supporting their policies? Surely the PAP has some good policies too? It was a good question and I&#039;ve been giving some thought to it.

The conclusion I&#039;ve come to, is that it is hard to support policies when I know that pretty much almost everything the PAP does (at least in recent years) is for economic prosperity for a few, to the detriment of many others. How then, can I find the belief that any policy they put forward is good for the masses? Without belief that the PAP has the people&#039;s interests at heart, it is not possible to support any policy of theirs, or even view them in a neutral light. If they had the people&#039;s interests at heart, I believe that most would be a lot more forgiving and less critical of their mistakes... or at least I would like to think so.

In any case, what good policies have been encouraged lately? The so-called help for the poorest workers who are going to have their already pathetically low pay cut further due to being converted from full time to part time? The nearly 22% hike in electricity costs? The increasing popularity of contract work? (again with less pay and benefits) Or perhaps the ever increasing number of foreign workers? I see no future in Singapore. Do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To #2:</p>
<p>Someone asked me lately, surely not supporting PAP shouldn&#8217;t mean not supporting their policies? Surely the PAP has some good policies too? It was a good question and I&#8217;ve been giving some thought to it.</p>
<p>The conclusion I&#8217;ve come to, is that it is hard to support policies when I know that pretty much almost everything the PAP does (at least in recent years) is for economic prosperity for a few, to the detriment of many others. How then, can I find the belief that any policy they put forward is good for the masses? Without belief that the PAP has the people&#8217;s interests at heart, it is not possible to support any policy of theirs, or even view them in a neutral light. If they had the people&#8217;s interests at heart, I believe that most would be a lot more forgiving and less critical of their mistakes&#8230; or at least I would like to think so.</p>
<p>In any case, what good policies have been encouraged lately? The so-called help for the poorest workers who are going to have their already pathetically low pay cut further due to being converted from full time to part time? The nearly 22% hike in electricity costs? The increasing popularity of contract work? (again with less pay and benefits) Or perhaps the ever increasing number of foreign workers? I see no future in Singapore. Do you?</p>
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		<title>By: Davin Ng</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/toc-welcomes-new-members/comment-page-1/#comment-27673</link>
		<dc:creator>Davin Ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FOX News is more of an entertainment news channel instead of being &quot;fair and balanced&quot; as they claimed. Have you seen the kind of garbage they have been broadcasting?

USA has more than just Fox or CNN. NBC, C-SPAN, ABC News and a whole bevy of independent and individual newspapers and news channels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOX News is more of an entertainment news channel instead of being &#8220;fair and balanced&#8221; as they claimed. Have you seen the kind of garbage they have been broadcasting?</p>
<p>USA has more than just Fox or CNN. NBC, C-SPAN, ABC News and a whole bevy of independent and individual newspapers and news channels.</p>
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		<title>By: Tan So Sen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tan So Sen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 07:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>USA has FOX News &amp; CNN
Singapore has CNA  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>USA has FOX News &amp; CNN<br />
Singapore has CNA  ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Kang Ah Loo</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/toc-welcomes-new-members/comment-page-1/#comment-27109</link>
		<dc:creator>Kang Ah Loo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 07:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Andrew that in many aspects access to information is more limited in singapore than other democracies.

How many Press do singaporeans think exist? 
CNA, Channel 5 / 8 / U / Okto, Today, NewPaper, STimes : what is the commonality among them?

;)  

The 1st world democratic citizens  are really amazing - they Buy the news, every day, at $1 a piece, Saturday news. I wonder when everyday news will also be hiked to $1 ? Year end? I think no problem, singaporeans have no problem with all hikes cos they have not objected to it - at least I do not see people at HL park.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Andrew that in many aspects access to information is more limited in singapore than other democracies.</p>
<p>How many Press do singaporeans think exist?<br />
CNA, Channel 5 / 8 / U / Okto, Today, NewPaper, STimes : what is the commonality among them?</p>
<p>;)  </p>
<p>The 1st world democratic citizens  are really amazing &#8211; they Buy the news, every day, at $1 a piece, Saturday news. I wonder when everyday news will also be hiked to $1 ? Year end? I think no problem, singaporeans have no problem with all hikes cos they have not objected to it &#8211; at least I do not see people at HL park.</p>
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		<title>By: lim</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/toc-welcomes-new-members/comment-page-1/#comment-27085</link>
		<dc:creator>lim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done.</description>
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		<title>By: theonlinecitizen</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/toc-welcomes-new-members/comment-page-1/#comment-27037</link>
		<dc:creator>theonlinecitizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, inspir3d... ;)

Observer,
Some people have told us the same thing - but others find us &quot;too moderate&quot;. Ha.. It&#039;s a balance, I guess, which we have to strike. But I feel that the reason why so many are critical of govt policies is simply because of uncertainty - not enough information is given to the general public. This leads to more questions - which at times may seem &quot;critical&quot;.

But you are right. Perhaps we should provide more space for the &quot;good things&quot; about Singapore. ;)

Andrew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, inspir3d&#8230; ;)</p>
<p>Observer,<br />
Some people have told us the same thing &#8211; but others find us &#8220;too moderate&#8221;. Ha.. It&#8217;s a balance, I guess, which we have to strike. But I feel that the reason why so many are critical of govt policies is simply because of uncertainty &#8211; not enough information is given to the general public. This leads to more questions &#8211; which at times may seem &#8220;critical&#8221;.</p>
<p>But you are right. Perhaps we should provide more space for the &#8220;good things&#8221; about Singapore. ;)</p>
<p>Andrew</p>
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		<title>By: Observer(SG-HK)</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/toc-welcomes-new-members/comment-page-1/#comment-26977</link>
		<dc:creator>Observer(SG-HK)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Less moderation will be a good improvement. A gracious society of citizenry are more tolerent in differing views even if the messages can be discriminative from time to time. In reality, discrimination and racism exist in all over the world. I believe TOC advocates true Freedom of Speech and Expression and stressed to work towards neutral ground in your publications.

I certainly would hope to see a more balance of reporting (or in this case published articles). To be honest, the ratio is too wide a gap..i.e. most articles seemed to me are anti-govt. As much as I had expressed previously in many of my comments that I do not entirely agree with many of the policies that this current government adopts, there are some deeds that they have done that is worth some credit mention. 

In my opinon, lopsided publications is not healthy. If we are (at least I deemed myself as one) strong advocates of Freedom of Speech and Expression, Media Freedom, then I think being impartial and balance in views is critical and abest practice that should be encouraged and upheld.

Thank you and congratulations for achieving the 2 million hits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Less moderation will be a good improvement. A gracious society of citizenry are more tolerent in differing views even if the messages can be discriminative from time to time. In reality, discrimination and racism exist in all over the world. I believe TOC advocates true Freedom of Speech and Expression and stressed to work towards neutral ground in your publications.</p>
<p>I certainly would hope to see a more balance of reporting (or in this case published articles). To be honest, the ratio is too wide a gap..i.e. most articles seemed to me are anti-govt. As much as I had expressed previously in many of my comments that I do not entirely agree with many of the policies that this current government adopts, there are some deeds that they have done that is worth some credit mention. </p>
<p>In my opinon, lopsided publications is not healthy. If we are (at least I deemed myself as one) strong advocates of Freedom of Speech and Expression, Media Freedom, then I think being impartial and balance in views is critical and abest practice that should be encouraged and upheld.</p>
<p>Thank you and congratulations for achieving the 2 million hits.</p>
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		<title>By: inspir3d</title>
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		<dc:creator>inspir3d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice work. keep it up</description>
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