Comments on: When silence is not golden http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/when-silence-is-not-golden/ a community of Singaporeans Sun, 21 Mar 2010 03:49:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: pineapple http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/when-silence-is-not-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-26876 pineapple Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:44:06 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=2210#comment-26876 tonyfatt - yes, I don;t like Lim Hng Kiang either. When he was the health minister , I hardly see him implement any new policy. Our current health minister -Khaw Boon Wan is different. He has implement many changes and new policies. He is one of my best minister ! He looks much older when he first joined as Health minister and I believe that is bcos he is really hardworking and a 'worker' . tonyfatt – yes, I don;t like Lim Hng Kiang either. When he was the health minister , I hardly see him implement any new policy. Our current health minister -Khaw Boon Wan is different. He has implement many changes and new policies. He is one of my best minister ! He looks much older when he first joined as Health minister and I believe that is bcos he is really hardworking and a ‘worker’ .

]]> By: MMSMPMMC http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/when-silence-is-not-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-26776 MMSMPMMC Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:13:42 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=2210#comment-26776 If one follows the stock market on the high yield companies pattern, you will see some of the mentioned companies here are giving out high dividend yield to shareholders. Keeping the profit coming in will secure the high payout bonuses. So this has allowed price hike after price hike and this charge and that charge. Most of the so call regulating bodies are 挂羊头卖狗肉, set up for show only. Now is the time to test these bodies might and lets see if they will come forward...... If one follows the stock market on the high yield companies pattern, you will see some of the mentioned companies here are giving out high dividend yield to shareholders. Keeping the profit coming in will secure the high payout bonuses. So this has allowed price hike after price hike and this charge and that charge.
Most of the so call regulating bodies are 挂羊头卖狗肉, set up for show only.

Now is the time to test these bodies might and lets see if they will come forward……

]]> By: tiredsingaporean http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/when-silence-is-not-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-26743 tiredsingaporean Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:07:53 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=2210#comment-26743 5) tonyfatt on October 21st, 2008 11.46 am channel 8 showed Lim Hng Kiang laughing cracking jokes in parliament while explaining why Singapore government was slow to act in the banking crisis compares to HK govrn. when I saw Lim HK laughing cracking jokes instead of offering some helps to the unfortunates who lost their life savings,this heartless animal was happily laughing and cracking jokes while his follow MPs also joined in the happy laughing.I feel very sad how one can elect all this heartless animal into parliament. These heartless brats in parliament still can laugh and jokes over those old folks losing their life savings. Just wait and see when their own parents are the victims instead. Whatever goes around, comes around, thats how nature works. 5) tonyfatt on October 21st, 2008 11.46 am
channel 8 showed Lim Hng Kiang laughing cracking jokes in parliament while explaining why Singapore government was slow to act in the banking crisis compares to HK govrn. when I saw Lim HK laughing cracking jokes instead of offering some helps to the unfortunates who lost their life savings,this heartless animal was happily laughing and cracking jokes while his follow MPs also joined in the happy laughing.I feel very sad how one can elect all this heartless animal into parliament.

These heartless brats in parliament still can laugh and jokes over those old folks losing their life savings. Just wait and see when their own parents are the victims instead. Whatever goes around, comes around, thats how nature works.

]]> By: Lim Chih-Yang http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/when-silence-is-not-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-26620 Lim Chih-Yang Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:10:11 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=2210#comment-26620 Hi Tonyfatt, No worries. Let me go search around. It is indeed sad that our ministers seems to treat this matter lightly. The article was written as it appears that the powers-that-be seems that take a position of "thats just too bad, its your problem not mine" stance. while I am certain that not all investors are a babe in the woods, there are those that are probably mislead by the RMs. If Tan Kin Lian had not organise such mass rally, would the powers-that-be bother about it at all? sad. regards Chih-Yang Hi Tonyfatt,

No worries. Let me go search around. It is indeed sad that our ministers seems to treat this matter lightly. The article was written as it appears that the powers-that-be seems that take a position of “thats just too bad, its your problem not mine” stance. while I am certain that not all investors are a babe in the woods, there are those that are probably mislead by the RMs.

If Tan Kin Lian had not organise such mass rally, would the powers-that-be bother about it at all?

sad.

regards
Chih-Yang

]]> By: tonyfatt http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/when-silence-is-not-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-26585 tonyfatt Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:00:03 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=2210#comment-26585 Dear Lim Chih-Yang I am sorry that I am unable to produce what u has asked for. I guess nobody would expect a minister to joke and laugh on this sad and serious matter and standby a camera to take video on this heartless Lim HK. During the chinese news,he joke and laugh when he repeatedly said "this is not a bailout,not a bailout, not a bailout" and he laugh followed by the MPs there which was shown on TV very clearly .The the 3 times not a bailout is reported in yestersday news paper. Dear Lim Chih-Yang
I am sorry that I am unable to produce what u has asked for. I guess nobody would expect a minister to joke and laugh on this sad and serious matter and standby a camera to take video on this heartless Lim HK. During the chinese news,he joke and laugh when he repeatedly said “this is not a bailout,not a bailout, not a bailout” and he laugh followed by the MPs there which was shown on TV very clearly .The the 3 times not a bailout is reported in yestersday news paper.

]]> By: anon http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/when-silence-is-not-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-26565 anon Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:34:01 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=2210#comment-26565 PM finally appeared. He had been watching past elections of other countries like Norway and Australia apparently. He is quite confused, I think. He cited the Australian politicians for handing out goodies during elections. Bad choice, because the australians didn't bite at Howard's larger offer and past 10 years of proven economic progress. And Norway wanted to keep digging into their reserves of sort. Isn't he trying to do the same thing? Am I missing something? At least, my ex-Singapore brother told me Kevin Rudd was brave enough to host a TV dialogue with those affected by the meltdown. What did PM do? PM finally appeared.

He had been watching past elections of other countries like Norway and Australia apparently.

He is quite confused, I think. He cited the Australian politicians for handing out goodies during elections. Bad choice, because the australians didn’t bite at Howard’s larger offer and past 10 years of proven economic progress.

And Norway wanted to keep digging into their reserves of sort. Isn’t he trying to do the same thing?

Am I missing something?

At least, my ex-Singapore brother told me Kevin Rudd was brave enough to host a TV dialogue with those affected by the meltdown.

What did PM do?

]]> By: Lim Chih-Yang http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/when-silence-is-not-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-26502 Lim Chih-Yang Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:12:37 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=2210#comment-26502 Dear Tonyfatt, Would you be able to re-produce a link of Mr Lim Hng Kiang, laughing and joking in Parliament? Preferably some video sharing site has the video clip. Thanks. Regards Chih-Yang Dear Tonyfatt,

Would you be able to re-produce a link of Mr Lim Hng Kiang, laughing and joking in Parliament?

Preferably some video sharing site has the video clip.

Thanks.

Regards
Chih-Yang

]]> By: STILL WAITING http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/when-silence-is-not-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-26499 STILL WAITING Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:36:28 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=2210#comment-26499 I would like to request the PM and his colleagues to watch last night's (ie Oct 20, 2008) GET REAL episode. Yes it was very emotional and touching to hear the stories of the misled victims. But take away the emotions, the real issue is that there was misrepresentation and misselling by the banks. High risk products have been sold under the guise of low risk products to ordinary folks by the RMs with no regard of the investors' livelihood. Sad to say ethics is clearly missing from the banks. Law must be upheld by the Government. The whole world is watching how the government is going to handle this issue in this little red dot "financial centre" called Singapore! I would like to request the PM and his colleagues to watch last night’s (ie Oct 20, 2008) GET REAL episode. Yes it was very emotional and touching to hear the stories of the misled victims. But take away the emotions, the real issue is that there was misrepresentation and misselling by the banks. High risk products have been sold under the guise of low risk products to ordinary folks by the RMs with no regard of the investors’ livelihood. Sad to say ethics is clearly missing from the banks. Law must be upheld by the Government. The whole world is watching how the government is going to handle this issue in this little red dot “financial centre” called Singapore!

]]> By: Joe http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/when-silence-is-not-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-26458 Joe Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:24:37 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=2210#comment-26458 Our PM will wait until all difficult questions have been answered by his deputies and all bombardments are taken by his ministers before he comes out and say "everybody, well done and let's move on". He cannot multi-task, remember? He probably "fixing and buying" now. When he is done with that task, he will come out. Please wait... Our PM will wait until all difficult questions have been answered by his deputies and all bombardments are taken by his ministers before he comes out and say “everybody, well done and let’s move on”. He cannot multi-task, remember? He probably “fixing and buying” now. When he is done with that task, he will come out.

Please wait…

]]> By: Luamary http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/when-silence-is-not-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-26457 Luamary Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:20:00 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=2210#comment-26457 our PM is now busy having discussion with Salary Revision committee on how to tell singapooreans that the ministers reserve another salary increase and the amount of year end bonus.to be paid. our PM is now busy having discussion with Salary Revision committee on how to tell singapooreans that the ministers reserve another salary increase and the amount of year end bonus.to be paid.

]]> By: V S RAAJ http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/when-silence-is-not-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-26455 V S RAAJ Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:08:40 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=2210#comment-26455 For heaven's sake, stop bickering! The mini bond saga is due to a global melt down and some people go on bickering as though it was the result of our government handling these investments. If one wants to show frustration, direct it to parties concern - the Lehman, the local banks who sold them and the guys who bought them for a much much better returns! It is an investment which they got their fingers burnt! Some looking for shoulders to cry perhaps. It is far important to stay focus, united and salvage from this downturn and from the mini bond saga! I am pretty sure that SM Goh, Dr.Tony Tan, Tharman Shanmugaratnam are far more adequate to handle this mini bond saga. There are far more important matters to be handled then the poor investors who got burnt - thru false selling or greed - in this Lehman Saga! I am pretty sure that our PM is directing all agendas in relation to the current downturn of the economy as well as the poor 'burnt' investors!!! One do not need the whole govt. to be dragged into this investment saga or patronise these investors!!! For heaven’s sake, stop bickering! The mini bond saga is due to a global melt down and some people go on bickering as though it was the result of our government handling these investments. If one wants to show frustration, direct it to parties concern – the Lehman, the local banks who sold them and the guys who bought them for a much much better returns!
It is an investment which they got their fingers burnt! Some looking for shoulders to cry perhaps. It is far important to stay focus, united and salvage from this downturn and from the mini bond saga! I am pretty sure that SM Goh, Dr.Tony Tan, Tharman Shanmugaratnam are far more adequate to handle this mini bond saga. There are far more important matters to be handled then the poor investors who got burnt – thru false selling or greed – in this Lehman Saga! I am pretty sure that our PM is directing all agendas in relation to the current downturn of the economy as well as the poor ‘burnt’ investors!!! One do not need the whole govt. to be dragged into this investment saga or patronise these investors!!!

]]> By: tonyfatt http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/when-silence-is-not-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-26446 tonyfatt Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:35:19 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=2210#comment-26446 Hi Steven your beloved PM is similar to Taiwan fomer president Tan S Bian.When there is a political crisis,Tan would go and hide for 2 3 weeks.He will appear again and start blaming everybody particulary china and KMT.Your beloved PM will speak in 1 2 weeks time and like SM Goh putting things in proper perspective and assure u MAS is doing the right things. Hi Steven your beloved PM is similar to Taiwan fomer president Tan S Bian.When there is a political crisis,Tan would go and hide for 2 3 weeks.He will appear again and start blaming everybody particulary china and KMT.Your beloved PM will speak in 1 2 weeks time and like SM Goh putting things in proper perspective and assure u MAS is doing the right things.

]]> By: Steven http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/when-silence-is-not-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-26410 Steven Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:58:46 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=2210#comment-26410 I am now just waiting for our beloved PM to come out and make a statement. Wonder what kind of silly statment he will make a fool of himself and a greater fool out of us ordinary Singaporeans. I am now just waiting for our beloved PM to come out and make a statement. Wonder what kind of silly statment he will make a fool of himself and a greater fool out of us ordinary Singaporeans.

]]> By: SevenEleven http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/when-silence-is-not-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-26406 SevenEleven Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:33:47 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=2210#comment-26406 Suprisingly we are told that our saving in the banks will be guaranteed 100% using the Reserve to pay up should the need arise although the DPFM doubt it will ever be required. That aside, was a consent ever been given by the EP being the one who holds the key to our reserve. Was reasons being given as to why the reserve will be used in this Finanical crisis to the bank but no money could be used to levitate the people in the last crisis? Suprisingly we are told that our saving in the banks will be guaranteed 100% using the Reserve to pay up should the need arise although the DPFM doubt it will ever be required.
That aside, was a consent ever been given by the EP being the one who holds the key to our reserve. Was reasons being given as to why the reserve will be used in this Finanical crisis to the bank but no money could be used to levitate the people in the last crisis?

]]> By: Daily reminders : 'Maybe' is as good as 'maybe not' - lets wake up! http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/when-silence-is-not-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-26404 Daily reminders : 'Maybe' is as good as 'maybe not' - lets wake up! Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:18:09 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=2210#comment-26404 To me, Silence means ACCEPTANCE. Its means YOU ASK FOR IT! The PEOPLE is ultimately ACCOUNTABLE ( not just responsilbe) for the Choices they had made. Who cannot understand this simple statement? 4) hope - no hope on October 21st, 2008 10.13 am look at the majority shareholders of DBS bank SMRT Delgro Singapore Powers. Only TKL dare to speak out. ................ --------------------------------------------------- Look at the FTs coming in to Occupy created-in-singapore jobs. Are singaporeans capable of jobs that foreigners are occupying? If not, does it mean there is TALENT shortage? IF SO, is this why there is only talents like T K L and Mr Leong available to step forward? If not, can anyone give a clear reason WHY ? I think only those like TKL and Leong who never step forward can answer this. I do not want to put it bluntly cos it would not be nice to hear what i want to say. In times of national crisis, I wonder how many will step forward and how many will actually run 1st. I think many issues are too obvious to be ignored. People please wake up! To me,
Silence means ACCEPTANCE.
Its means YOU ASK FOR IT!

The PEOPLE is ultimately ACCOUNTABLE ( not just responsilbe) for the Choices they had made. Who cannot understand this simple statement?

4) hope – no hope on October 21st, 2008 10.13 am look at the majority shareholders of

DBS bank
SMRT
Delgro
Singapore Powers.

Only TKL dare to speak out.
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Look at the FTs coming in to Occupy created-in-singapore jobs. Are singaporeans capable of jobs that foreigners are occupying? If not, does it mean there is TALENT shortage? IF SO, is this why there is only talents like T K L and Mr Leong available to step forward? If not, can anyone give a clear reason WHY ? I think only those like TKL and Leong who never step forward can answer this.

I do not want to put it bluntly cos it would not be nice to hear what i want to say.

In times of national crisis, I wonder how many will step forward and how many will actually run 1st.

I think many issues are too obvious to be ignored. People please wake up!

]]> By: tonyfatt http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/when-silence-is-not-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-26400 tonyfatt Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:46:43 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=2210#comment-26400 Yesterday 6.30pm chinese news at channel 8 showed Lim Hng Kiang laughing cracking jokes in parliament while explaining why Singapore government was slow to act in the banking crisis compares to HK govrn.My heart feel very pain when I saw Lim HK laughing cracking jokes instead of offering some helps to the unfortunates who lost their life savings,this heartless animal was happily laughing and cracking jokes while his follow MPs also joined in the happy laughing.I feel very sad how one can elect all this heartless animal into parliament.The same laughing,jokes was again shown at 10pm chinese news at ch 8.I wonder why the opposition MPs there didn't do anything there and then.If JB was still there i think he will stand up and fire all those who laugh happily Yesterday 6.30pm chinese news at channel 8 showed Lim Hng Kiang laughing cracking jokes in parliament while explaining why Singapore government was slow to act in the banking crisis compares to HK govrn.My heart feel very pain when I saw Lim HK laughing cracking jokes instead of offering some helps to the unfortunates who lost their life savings,this heartless animal was happily laughing and cracking jokes while his follow MPs also joined in the happy laughing.I feel very sad how one can elect all this heartless animal into parliament.The same laughing,jokes was again shown at 10pm chinese news at ch 8.I wonder why the opposition MPs there didn’t do anything there and then.If JB was still there i think he will stand up and fire all those who laugh happily

]]> By: hope - no hope http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/when-silence-is-not-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-26386 hope - no hope Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:13:59 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=2210#comment-26386 look at the majority shareholders of DBS bank SMRT Delgro Singapore Powers. Only TKL dare to speak out. Even MAS has to move cautiously to avoid any showdown with any particular bank. No one dares to speak up. Who monitors MAS to ensure toxic products are not sold to retail investors? I understand Malaysia was not involved at all ! Fantastic! look at the majority shareholders of

DBS bank
SMRT
Delgro
Singapore Powers.

Only TKL dare to speak out.
Even MAS has to move cautiously to avoid any showdown with any particular bank. No one dares to speak up.
Who monitors MAS to ensure toxic products are not sold to retail investors? I understand Malaysia was not involved at all !

Fantastic!

]]> By: isa http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/when-silence-is-not-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-26353 isa Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:33:41 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=2210#comment-26353 Can I add in another person to the article.. MR PRATA MAN! YES! REPEAT AFTER ME! MR PRATA MAN! Mr Prata Man(pls ask your friend who prata man is ..if u don't know) Oh yes.. Mr Prata Man is seen on TV endorsing the launch of the Tamil TV Channel. Looks like he must have been an avid TV viewer... hmm.. which comes to mind.. could he have been watching tv too much that he forgot to be the People's voice? Imagine.. Speaking on TV .. saying "Oh.. I can't wait for that goody goody Tamil TV channel.. I've been waiting for so long for that"... but remaining totally silent on the issues that concern people's lifesavings.. Can I add in another person to the article..
MR PRATA MAN! YES! REPEAT AFTER ME! MR PRATA MAN!

Mr Prata Man(pls ask your friend who prata man is ..if u don’t know)

Oh yes.. Mr Prata Man is seen on TV endorsing the launch of the Tamil TV Channel. Looks like he must have been an avid TV viewer… hmm.. which comes to mind.. could he have been watching tv too much that he forgot to be the People’s voice?

Imagine.. Speaking on TV .. saying “Oh.. I can’t wait for that goody goody Tamil TV channel.. I’ve been waiting for so long for that”… but remaining totally silent on the issues that concern people’s lifesavings..

]]> By: joe http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/when-silence-is-not-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-26346 joe Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:15:04 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=2210#comment-26346 The silence is likely to prevent any hiccups to the greatest night show on Earth, if you ever notice the hyping before F1. The media people of the world was here, our esteemed government needed to make sure that only the good things were reported. During F1, the local media behaved like a story book. Nice beginnings, nice endings. Imagine if TKL had his talks in HLP during F1. The silence is likely to prevent any hiccups to the greatest night show on Earth, if you ever notice the hyping before F1. The media people of the world was here, our esteemed government needed to make sure that only the good things were reported. During F1, the local media behaved like a story book. Nice beginnings, nice endings.

Imagine if TKL had his talks in HLP during F1.

]]> By: kelly http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/when-silence-is-not-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-26341 kelly Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:34:07 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=2210#comment-26341 Long live people like TKL! Long live people like TKL!

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