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		<title>By: Plumber</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/advice-from-union-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-33290</link>
		<dc:creator>Plumber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 23:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>u ask me i ask who?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>u ask me i ask who?</p>
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		<title>By: Ho Cheow Seng</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/advice-from-union-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-33269</link>
		<dc:creator>Ho Cheow Seng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi People,

In Hokkien we have this idiom: &quot;Aye kow (a dumb person) tioh pung teng (got stung by a bee).

We use this idiom to describe the predicament of someone who is hurt and needs help badly but lacks the ability or means to communicate his problem. 

There is also another Hokkien idiom that says: &quot;Hoe miar lan[people who are blessed] mm chye yiah[can&#039;t understand] pye miar lan eh koew[the suffering of the unfortunate].

These two idioms just about sum up succinctly the plight of the common people, not just in Singapore, but in other countries as well. Let me elaborate:

The common people usually comprise the illiterate or people with little education. They are the &#039;disadvantaged segment&#039; of society. And they are often victims of the &#039;poverty trap&#039; because they lack the ability to communicate their problems and hence to present their plight effectively  to the authorities. 

The powers that be who are the &quot;hoe miah lan [the blessed] and who earn more than they can spend are often unable to understand let alone empathise with the common poor. They view the plight or difficulties of the poor purely with the head instead of with both the head and the heart. For these &#039;hoe miah lan&#039; whose salary for one month may take a poor man 10 years to earn [no exaggeration here], the story of the poor man sound too absurd to be true of the life that the hoe miah lan has been used to. 

Just like the Buddha,  who thought the world was a wonderful place when he was a prince and not allowed to go beyond the royal compound until that fateful occasion when he was allowed out of the royal confine and came across a beggar, did he then realise that the world he was used to was a very exclusive one. But then it takes a &#039;Buddha&#039; to be  able to make that very discerning conclusion about the world just from a chanced meeting with a beggar.

However the powers that be in our society are all far from being &#039;the Buddha&#039;. So expecting them to be able to understand the suffering of the poor is asking them to &#039;make a leap&#039; well beyond their capacity. Perhaps the only way to make the blessed and &#039;the powers that be&#039; to be able understand what it is like to be poor or &#039;socially disadvantaged&#039; is to make these fortunate fellowmen of ours to do the work of the poor and be paid the poor man&#039;s salary at the end of the month. I&#039;m saying this because I am reminded of the advice recently given to the unfortunate people, who had deposited tens of thousands of dollars in some cases and hundreds of thousands of  dollars in a number of other cases with the structured deposit schemes retailed by DBS, to see things in perspective. Now my question here is: What perspective is there for people see who have placed their life-savings in these structured deposits only to be told shortly that all their money is gone? It&#039;s easy to talk about &#039;perspective(s)&#039; when one draws a salary of more than a hundred thousand dollars a month because one has such easy access to more money. 

This brings us to the conclusion that indeed  &#039;experience&#039; is often the best way to explain or make some people understand a given situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi People,</p>
<p>In Hokkien we have this idiom: &#8220;Aye kow (a dumb person) tioh pung teng (got stung by a bee).</p>
<p>We use this idiom to describe the predicament of someone who is hurt and needs help badly but lacks the ability or means to communicate his problem. </p>
<p>There is also another Hokkien idiom that says: &#8220;Hoe miar lan[people who are blessed] mm chye yiah[can't understand] pye miar lan eh koew[the suffering of the unfortunate].</p>
<p>These two idioms just about sum up succinctly the plight of the common people, not just in Singapore, but in other countries as well. Let me elaborate:</p>
<p>The common people usually comprise the illiterate or people with little education. They are the &#8216;disadvantaged segment&#8217; of society. And they are often victims of the &#8216;poverty trap&#8217; because they lack the ability to communicate their problems and hence to present their plight effectively  to the authorities. </p>
<p>The powers that be who are the &#8220;hoe miah lan [the blessed] and who earn more than they can spend are often unable to understand let alone empathise with the common poor. They view the plight or difficulties of the poor purely with the head instead of with both the head and the heart. For these &#8216;hoe miah lan&#8217; whose salary for one month may take a poor man 10 years to earn [no exaggeration here], the story of the poor man sound too absurd to be true of the life that the hoe miah lan has been used to. </p>
<p>Just like the Buddha,  who thought the world was a wonderful place when he was a prince and not allowed to go beyond the royal compound until that fateful occasion when he was allowed out of the royal confine and came across a beggar, did he then realise that the world he was used to was a very exclusive one. But then it takes a &#8216;Buddha&#8217; to be  able to make that very discerning conclusion about the world just from a chanced meeting with a beggar.</p>
<p>However the powers that be in our society are all far from being &#8216;the Buddha&#8217;. So expecting them to be able to understand the suffering of the poor is asking them to &#8216;make a leap&#8217; well beyond their capacity. Perhaps the only way to make the blessed and &#8216;the powers that be&#8217; to be able understand what it is like to be poor or &#8217;socially disadvantaged&#8217; is to make these fortunate fellowmen of ours to do the work of the poor and be paid the poor man&#8217;s salary at the end of the month. I&#8217;m saying this because I am reminded of the advice recently given to the unfortunate people, who had deposited tens of thousands of dollars in some cases and hundreds of thousands of  dollars in a number of other cases with the structured deposit schemes retailed by DBS, to see things in perspective. Now my question here is: What perspective is there for people see who have placed their life-savings in these structured deposits only to be told shortly that all their money is gone? It&#8217;s easy to talk about &#8216;perspective(s)&#8217; when one draws a salary of more than a hundred thousand dollars a month because one has such easy access to more money. </p>
<p>This brings us to the conclusion that indeed  &#8216;experience&#8217; is often the best way to explain or make some people understand a given situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Dreamer</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/advice-from-union-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-33259</link>
		<dc:creator>Dreamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That statement should be directed to the politicians who have ouverstayed their welcome. They should move on and not be picky  so that the country can save from the exhorbitant salary they are receiving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That statement should be directed to the politicians who have ouverstayed their welcome. They should move on and not be picky  so that the country can save from the exhorbitant salary they are receiving.</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/advice-from-union-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-33254</link>
		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LSS secretly harbours the ambition of becoming a comedian. That&#039;s why you get funny comments from him.

In any case, do appreciate our minister&#039;s efforts. Not only does he feel rich by looking at his monthly CPF statements, he also crack jokes on top of his regular work(if any). Don&#039;t you think he is due a pay-rise for his hard work on top of overtime? =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LSS secretly harbours the ambition of becoming a comedian. That&#8217;s why you get funny comments from him.</p>
<p>In any case, do appreciate our minister&#8217;s efforts. Not only does he feel rich by looking at his monthly CPF statements, he also crack jokes on top of his regular work(if any). Don&#8217;t you think he is due a pay-rise for his hard work on top of overtime? =)</p>
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		<title>By: Mee siam</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/advice-from-union-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-33234</link>
		<dc:creator>Mee siam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not sure does he mean to his colleagues as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not sure does he mean to his colleagues as well?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/advice-from-union-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-33228</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LSS preaching his gospel again ?  What&#039;s new ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LSS preaching his gospel again ?  What&#8217;s new ?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/advice-from-union-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-33227</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LSL preaching his gospel again ?  What&#039;s new ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LSL preaching his gospel again ?  What&#8217;s new ?</p>
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		<title>By: alky</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/advice-from-union-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-33226</link>
		<dc:creator>alky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe he&#039;s preparing his fellow MPs for their job search after the next GE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe he&#8217;s preparing his fellow MPs for their job search after the next GE.</p>
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		<title>By: tiredsingaporean</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/advice-from-union-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-33211</link>
		<dc:creator>tiredsingaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t know exactly how LSS got his position as NTUC Chief, with what he is doing now and the kind of salary he is drawing, I think any of our NUS students can replace him anytime to do a far better job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know exactly how LSS got his position as NTUC Chief, with what he is doing now and the kind of salary he is drawing, I think any of our NUS students can replace him anytime to do a far better job.</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/advice-from-union-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-33203</link>
		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 13:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He really wanted to say this actually. 



Don’t focus only on looking for the same job and the same pay. Focus on looking at your monthly CPF statement so that you can feel rich.

Lim Swee Say, NTUC Chief</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He really wanted to say this actually. </p>
<p>Don’t focus only on looking for the same job and the same pay. Focus on looking at your monthly CPF statement so that you can feel rich.</p>
<p>Lim Swee Say, NTUC Chief</p>
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		<title>By: C J</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/advice-from-union-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-33186</link>
		<dc:creator>C J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 12:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t he just Shut the Fuk Up and let people struggle in every which way they can since he is NOT helping but talking crap?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t he just Shut the Fuk Up and let people struggle in every which way they can since he is NOT helping but talking crap?</p>
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		<title>By: hongjun</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/advice-from-union-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-33170</link>
		<dc:creator>hongjun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is referring to those who are retrenched or am now without a job.

I agree with him this time round. Times are bad and we should not be &quot;picky&quot;.

hongjun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is referring to those who are retrenched or am now without a job.</p>
<p>I agree with him this time round. Times are bad and we should not be &#8220;picky&#8221;.</p>
<p>hongjun</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/advice-from-union-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-33150</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK boss.

I will be looking for a different job and a different pay.

OK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK boss.</p>
<p>I will be looking for a different job and a different pay.</p>
<p>OK?</p>
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		<title>By: GS</title>
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		<dc:creator>GS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok boss.

You give me a different job and pay me more??? Boleh???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok boss.</p>
<p>You give me a different job and pay me more??? Boleh???</p>
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