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		<title>By: Florence</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/help-get-100000-signatures-for-tan-kin-lian-to-run/comment-page-2/#comment-54561</link>
		<dc:creator>Florence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 02:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Serene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 01:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would speak volumn if Mr KL Tan can propose to donate a certain percentage, say between 30-85% of the income he derives from being the President (if he contest the EP, and wins) to charity, it would certainly be a slap in the face of those who fervently defend the need for high pay for service to the nation. With this made known, I&#039;m very certain he will get lots of support from the people. I strongly believe he is not after the pay, are you Mr Tan? Everything is provided for by being a EP. The pay issue is just a justification for stratosphere pay for office bearer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would speak volumn if Mr KL Tan can propose to donate a certain percentage, say between 30-85% of the income he derives from being the President (if he contest the EP, and wins) to charity, it would certainly be a slap in the face of those who fervently defend the need for high pay for service to the nation. With this made known, I&#8217;m very certain he will get lots of support from the people. I strongly believe he is not after the pay, are you Mr Tan? Everything is provided for by being a EP. The pay issue is just a justification for stratosphere pay for office bearer.</p>
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		<title>By: sarek_home</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarek_home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;89) Malt on December 3rd, 2008 11.39 pm
I heard from someone that you once told a large gathering of your employees..&lt;/b&gt;

I think you have the obligation to check with that &lt;b&gt;someone&lt;/b&gt; when and where the alleged remark was made verify with others in the gathering regarding this alleged remark.  

It is only fair that you verify the &lt;b&gt;alleged remark&lt;/b&gt; first before asking questions.

Be a fair and responsible person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>89) Malt on December 3rd, 2008 11.39 pm<br />
I heard from someone that you once told a large gathering of your employees..</b></p>
<p>I think you have the obligation to check with that <b>someone</b> when and where the alleged remark was made verify with others in the gathering regarding this alleged remark.  </p>
<p>It is only fair that you verify the <b>alleged remark</b> first before asking questions.</p>
<p>Be a fair and responsible person.</p>
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		<title>By: sarek_home</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarek_home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;90) Malt on December 3rd, 2008 11.39 pm
.........the best way to reduce unemployment in Singapore is to ship our unemployed overseas to places like Indonesia by the thousands. Is this true? &lt;/b&gt;

Remember Health Minister Khaw said about shipping retirees overseas for similar reasons as mentioned by this Malt?  Malt might have mixed facts and identity.  Who know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>90) Malt on December 3rd, 2008 11.39 pm<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;the best way to reduce unemployment in Singapore is to ship our unemployed overseas to places like Indonesia by the thousands. Is this true? </b></p>
<p>Remember Health Minister Khaw said about shipping retirees overseas for similar reasons as mentioned by this Malt?  Malt might have mixed facts and identity.  Who know?</p>
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		<title>By: Its showtime!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Its showtime!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elites must be getting worried now.....sending in their snipers so early and using their usual &#039;let&#039;s take a closer look in your closet&#039; tactics.

Let&#039;s see if such tactics will still work for them here in cyberspace without their 134th. =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elites must be getting worried now&#8230;..sending in their snipers so early and using their usual &#8216;let&#8217;s take a closer look in your closet&#8217; tactics.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see if such tactics will still work for them here in cyberspace without their 134th. =)</p>
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		<title>By: smallvice585</title>
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		<dc:creator>smallvice585</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I heard from someone that you once told a large gathering of your employees that the best way to reduce unemployment in Singapore is to ship our unemployed overseas to places like Indonesia by the thousands. Is this true?&lt;/i&gt; - Malt (#90)

&lt;b&gt;Stop engaging in libel, character assassination and spreading false rumours.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I heard from someone that you once told a large gathering of your employees that the best way to reduce unemployment in Singapore is to ship our unemployed overseas to places like Indonesia by the thousands. Is this true?</i> &#8211; Malt (#90)</p>
<p><b>Stop engaging in libel, character assassination and spreading false rumours.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Malt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard from someone that you once told a large gathering of your employees that the best way to reduce unemployment in Singapore is to ship our unemployed overseas to places like Indonesia by the thousands. Is this true? 

I understand also that said that the government could provide a small salary for these unemployed while they are in Indonesia to survive on. Your rationale was that the cost of living is not as high there so they do not need much money to live on. Is this true? 

I also understand that you did share this idea of yours with the government and they did not think it was a good idea. Why do you want to ship the unemployed away?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard from someone that you once told a large gathering of your employees that the best way to reduce unemployment in Singapore is to ship our unemployed overseas to places like Indonesia by the thousands. Is this true? </p>
<p>I understand also that said that the government could provide a small salary for these unemployed while they are in Indonesia to survive on. Your rationale was that the cost of living is not as high there so they do not need much money to live on. Is this true? </p>
<p>I also understand that you did share this idea of yours with the government and they did not think it was a good idea. Why do you want to ship the unemployed away?</p>
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		<title>By: leviticus</title>
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		<dc:creator>leviticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 13:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I am not sure your plan to contest an election as an independent MP is a good idea.The number of single constituencies are limited,and surely you don&#039;t wish to see a 3-cornered fight in these.So what are the options?  

a) Form a small party and contest in a GRC. 
b) Join an existing party .

In either case,you will no longer be independent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I am not sure your plan to contest an election as an independent MP is a good idea.The number of single constituencies are limited,and surely you don&#8217;t wish to see a 3-cornered fight in these.So what are the options?  </p>
<p>a) Form a small party and contest in a GRC.<br />
b) Join an existing party .</p>
<p>In either case,you will no longer be independent.</p>
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		<title>By: Chia C.K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chia C.K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear smallvoice585 (#83),
1. I think Mr Tan KL&#039;s &#039;ideology&#039; is quite apparent (to me at least) in his most recent action of collectivizing people who have been rendered &#039;voiceless&#039; in the mini-bonds saga, and activating for a more equitable response from institutional powers such as the gahmen, financial &amp; judiciary institutions which should not take Citizens for a ride.
2. &#039;Pragmatism&#039; is real-politik is pragmatism...it does not belong to any one party or to anyone if that&#039;s what I understand by the term. And I think it&#039;s not necessary to articulate a radically different &#039;ideology&#039; unless its a classroom exercise on intellectual history, political philosophy etc.
3. Personally, what Mr Tan stands for or symbolizes to me is a test for kopitiam Joes&#039; like U and I, to be able to stand-up and be reckoned as human beings rather than be caricaturized, de-politicized &amp; managed like economic slaves, kiasu/kiasi/kia-zhenghu ignorant Sinaporeans who have been manipulated to justify an &#039;elite&#039; gahmen, &#039;firm leadership&#039; and/or &#039;single-party rule&#039;.
4. Mr Tan is not Kuanyin-ma, for if he gets into office it is only because I as a Singaporean, am able to make a conscious choice and effort to put him there, and that there are constitutional mechanisms to make that happen. Otherwise the rules need to be changed and till then perhaps we can discuss more about &#039;ideology&#039; - reformasi and revolusi maybe? And I hope not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear smallvoice585 (#83),<br />
1. I think Mr Tan KL&#8217;s &#8216;ideology&#8217; is quite apparent (to me at least) in his most recent action of collectivizing people who have been rendered &#8216;voiceless&#8217; in the mini-bonds saga, and activating for a more equitable response from institutional powers such as the gahmen, financial &amp; judiciary institutions which should not take Citizens for a ride.<br />
2. &#8216;Pragmatism&#8217; is real-politik is pragmatism&#8230;it does not belong to any one party or to anyone if that&#8217;s what I understand by the term. And I think it&#8217;s not necessary to articulate a radically different &#8216;ideology&#8217; unless its a classroom exercise on intellectual history, political philosophy etc.<br />
3. Personally, what Mr Tan stands for or symbolizes to me is a test for kopitiam Joes&#8217; like U and I, to be able to stand-up and be reckoned as human beings rather than be caricaturized, de-politicized &amp; managed like economic slaves, kiasu/kiasi/kia-zhenghu ignorant Sinaporeans who have been manipulated to justify an &#8216;elite&#8217; gahmen, &#8216;firm leadership&#8217; and/or &#8217;single-party rule&#8217;.<br />
4. Mr Tan is not Kuanyin-ma, for if he gets into office it is only because I as a Singaporean, am able to make a conscious choice and effort to put him there, and that there are constitutional mechanisms to make that happen. Otherwise the rules need to be changed and till then perhaps we can discuss more about &#8216;ideology&#8217; &#8211; reformasi and revolusi maybe? And I hope not.</p>
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		<title>By: Multiplier effect</title>
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		<dc:creator>Multiplier effect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 03:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please Singaporeans, please come to Aljunied GRC .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please Singaporeans, please come to Aljunied GRC .</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TKL,
should you contest for presidency, I should be glad to donate some money for your contest (One need to pay $10,000 for  presidency contest ?). I think everyone of those 100,000 should donate money for contest be it $1 or more. TKL will do his part and the citizen who vote for presidency should do their part do. Together it will be easy to accumulate these monies. TKL may be able to come out his own money but no money should be as &quot;meaningful&quot; as those coming directly from the citizen who may not be acquainted with TKL but know of his good deed and personality. If TKL did not get to be elected as president, these money can be used to create financial education and awareness.

Obama has shown that citizen are willing to help out and donate money for their future president out of hope and support. Singapore citizen should do likewise to support those who offer to change their being and future for the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TKL,<br />
should you contest for presidency, I should be glad to donate some money for your contest (One need to pay $10,000 for  presidency contest ?). I think everyone of those 100,000 should donate money for contest be it $1 or more. TKL will do his part and the citizen who vote for presidency should do their part do. Together it will be easy to accumulate these monies. TKL may be able to come out his own money but no money should be as &#8220;meaningful&#8221; as those coming directly from the citizen who may not be acquainted with TKL but know of his good deed and personality. If TKL did not get to be elected as president, these money can be used to create financial education and awareness.</p>
<p>Obama has shown that citizen are willing to help out and donate money for their future president out of hope and support. Singapore citizen should do likewise to support those who offer to change their being and future for the better.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I am not so clean, like everybody else. I commit traffic, and other offenses, even a tax offense. I lose my temper and scold people, sometimes. 

So what!&quot;

That is the kind of honesty and non-saving face remark that deeply lacking in our expensive gahmen !
Indeed, people who want to save-face and &quot;love-face&quot; shouldn&#039;t enjoy politics, if they want enter politics then there is no such thing as doing coverup and move-on for face saving. Countless coverup have been done much to detrimental of intransparent governance.

TKL, you done right for being outright honest, otherwise I&#039;m sure the gov will make every effort to accuse you of tax evasion in MSM even though you did not have those intention in the first place. Countless people who challenge the gov have the gov discredited them through tax evasion no matter how minor and insignificant because it is the most easiest target to start from. Any slight mistake will be amplified by MSM to mean total lack of integrity, and such is the behaviour of MSM and gov.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I am not so clean, like everybody else. I commit traffic, and other offenses, even a tax offense. I lose my temper and scold people, sometimes. </p>
<p>So what!&#8221;</p>
<p>That is the kind of honesty and non-saving face remark that deeply lacking in our expensive gahmen !<br />
Indeed, people who want to save-face and &#8220;love-face&#8221; shouldn&#8217;t enjoy politics, if they want enter politics then there is no such thing as doing coverup and move-on for face saving. Countless coverup have been done much to detrimental of intransparent governance.</p>
<p>TKL, you done right for being outright honest, otherwise I&#8217;m sure the gov will make every effort to accuse you of tax evasion in MSM even though you did not have those intention in the first place. Countless people who challenge the gov have the gov discredited them through tax evasion no matter how minor and insignificant because it is the most easiest target to start from. Any slight mistake will be amplified by MSM to mean total lack of integrity, and such is the behaviour of MSM and gov.</p>
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		<title>By: smallvoice585</title>
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		<dc:creator>smallvoice585</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr Tan Kin Lian,

Thanks for your reply (#66).

If you allow me to summarise YOUR reasons for the need of the 100,000 signatures:
(1) Because of your lack of readiness and resources to practise politics in the conventional way;
(2) Because it is a good way to create awareness and educate the public about the Govt&#039;s lack of responsiveness to citizen voices;
(3)  Because the political noise created by the collection of signatures may force the Govt to re-cast their role as being the true representatives of the people and permit freer elections; 
(4)  Because when people find that there are so many other non-PAP sympathisers, they are more likely to throw in their lot with you.

I hope the potential 100,000 people who are busy signing up will take note of these reasons.

In my humble opinion, none of these reasons are valid.  Reason (1) is a poor excuse for your lack of preparation.  Reason (2) is to over-simplify the very challenging task of educating our people politically.  Reason (3) is pure wishful thinking.  And reason (4) shows a lack of understanding of the underlying reason why most people do not join the opposition but vote for the PAP for the last 43 years.

To cut a long story short, political contests are actually not won at the ballot box!  Before the political/election battle, there is an intellectual or ideological battle.  PAP&#039;s philosophy is to provide prosperity and security through pragmatic policies.  Thus far, the opposition/non-PAP&quot;s subconscious ideology is the negation of isolated instances of perceived injustice that they nitpick out of PAP policies.  

That kind of ideology is bound to fail.  The big question is - can you formulate a much grander and more inspiring ideology that can capture the imagination of the people?  If you can, throw yourself headlong into it, and people will surely follow you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr Tan Kin Lian,</p>
<p>Thanks for your reply (#66).</p>
<p>If you allow me to summarise YOUR reasons for the need of the 100,000 signatures:<br />
(1) Because of your lack of readiness and resources to practise politics in the conventional way;<br />
(2) Because it is a good way to create awareness and educate the public about the Govt&#8217;s lack of responsiveness to citizen voices;<br />
(3)  Because the political noise created by the collection of signatures may force the Govt to re-cast their role as being the true representatives of the people and permit freer elections;<br />
(4)  Because when people find that there are so many other non-PAP sympathisers, they are more likely to throw in their lot with you.</p>
<p>I hope the potential 100,000 people who are busy signing up will take note of these reasons.</p>
<p>In my humble opinion, none of these reasons are valid.  Reason (1) is a poor excuse for your lack of preparation.  Reason (2) is to over-simplify the very challenging task of educating our people politically.  Reason (3) is pure wishful thinking.  And reason (4) shows a lack of understanding of the underlying reason why most people do not join the opposition but vote for the PAP for the last 43 years.</p>
<p>To cut a long story short, political contests are actually not won at the ballot box!  Before the political/election battle, there is an intellectual or ideological battle.  PAP&#8217;s philosophy is to provide prosperity and security through pragmatic policies.  Thus far, the opposition/non-PAP&#8221;s subconscious ideology is the negation of isolated instances of perceived injustice that they nitpick out of PAP policies.  </p>
<p>That kind of ideology is bound to fail.  The big question is &#8211; can you formulate a much grander and more inspiring ideology that can capture the imagination of the people?  If you can, throw yourself headlong into it, and people will surely follow you.</p>
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		<title>By: Blogger for president? &#124; Digital Marketing by Myron Tay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blogger for president? &#124; Digital Marketing by Myron Tay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tan Kin Lian seems set run for presidency. I&#8217;m still not sure what I think about this but The Online Citizen has an interesting mix of views. And, apparently he&#8217;s looking for 100,000 signatures. I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tan Kin Lian seems set run for presidency. I&#8217;m still not sure what I think about this but The Online Citizen has an interesting mix of views. And, apparently he&#8217;s looking for 100,000 signatures. I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Mr Tan,

I understand you may not actually qualify to contest the EP post,having been neither an ex-Perm Sec/Minister or CEO of a public listed company with revenue exceeding XX millions ( NTUC is a co-op and not a public listed entity ) ; nor CEO of a scheduled 5 Stat Board. Best bet is to stand as an opposition candidate.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Mr Tan,</p>
<p>I understand you may not actually qualify to contest the EP post,having been neither an ex-Perm Sec/Minister or CEO of a public listed company with revenue exceeding XX millions ( NTUC is a co-op and not a public listed entity ) ; nor CEO of a scheduled 5 Stat Board. Best bet is to stand as an opposition candidate.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: ahsoh</title>
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		<dc:creator>ahsoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does Mr Tan want to run? Is he nursing political ambition after being forced to step down as CEO from NTUC income a while back? Personally, I think he is a good CEO who has contributed a lot to NTUC&#039;s income and is still to young to leave.

Mr Tan, you have my best wishes but you better be prepared to lose your fortune, family, friends and perhaps freedom/live if you want to go against the PAP machinery (see what happen to JBJ). Be prepared for some old man to bring his mastery of rhetoric and his control of political machinery to give you a hammering. Be prepared to be libeled and not being able to fight back. Be prepared for the PAP to dig up and dish out all dirts and dirty laundries (do you have any?) against you.

Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does Mr Tan want to run? Is he nursing political ambition after being forced to step down as CEO from NTUC income a while back? Personally, I think he is a good CEO who has contributed a lot to NTUC&#8217;s income and is still to young to leave.</p>
<p>Mr Tan, you have my best wishes but you better be prepared to lose your fortune, family, friends and perhaps freedom/live if you want to go against the PAP machinery (see what happen to JBJ). Be prepared for some old man to bring his mastery of rhetoric and his control of political machinery to give you a hammering. Be prepared to be libeled and not being able to fight back. Be prepared for the PAP to dig up and dish out all dirts and dirty laundries (do you have any?) against you.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: watthefish</title>
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		<dc:creator>watthefish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about  forming a REALLY SOLID alternative GRC? You have Mr. TKL and Eunice Olsen, just need 3 more from this group at TOC to form a viable ansd credible opposition. Forget about the other 2 opposition, quiet like a mouse. I truly like the way Eunice questioned the party on some matters. At TKL, we have experience, Eunice, youth and intelligence and also up-to-date, Mr. Leong great analylatical mind, Sylvia??? There we have an alternative and by the way, run for Aljunied GRC, think the time is right for the picking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about  forming a REALLY SOLID alternative GRC? You have Mr. TKL and Eunice Olsen, just need 3 more from this group at TOC to form a viable ansd credible opposition. Forget about the other 2 opposition, quiet like a mouse. I truly like the way Eunice questioned the party on some matters. At TKL, we have experience, Eunice, youth and intelligence and also up-to-date, Mr. Leong great analylatical mind, Sylvia??? There we have an alternative and by the way, run for Aljunied GRC, think the time is right for the picking.</p>
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		<title>By: Gilbert Goh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gilbert Goh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RedMan:

Ya I agreed with you also on the lack of alternative party in Singapore. This is the gravest situation facing Singapore now. It is already manifesting in an overbearing governance that fails to understand the ground and seizing every advantage to consolidate their power base to the detriment of the country.

How can one party politics be good for Singapore? Even auntie and uncle know that too well. If the PM can advocate that, it is indeed both a shame and a shock to say the least.

I agreed also that TKL is better as an alternate voice speaking for the commoners. He has the charisma and fearlessness to do it. I do hope that he will even start a political party staffed by a lot of good men who want to do great stuff for the country.

I feel that many talented people want to do something in such grave situation but do not know where to go to. Do they join WP? SDP? Or worse PAP?

You might be surprised how many people are hungry for change and want to stand out from the masses to have a stake in the country.

TKL hopefully is the start of something revolutionary for Singapore in a good sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RedMan:</p>
<p>Ya I agreed with you also on the lack of alternative party in Singapore. This is the gravest situation facing Singapore now. It is already manifesting in an overbearing governance that fails to understand the ground and seizing every advantage to consolidate their power base to the detriment of the country.</p>
<p>How can one party politics be good for Singapore? Even auntie and uncle know that too well. If the PM can advocate that, it is indeed both a shame and a shock to say the least.</p>
<p>I agreed also that TKL is better as an alternate voice speaking for the commoners. He has the charisma and fearlessness to do it. I do hope that he will even start a political party staffed by a lot of good men who want to do great stuff for the country.</p>
<p>I feel that many talented people want to do something in such grave situation but do not know where to go to. Do they join WP? SDP? Or worse PAP?</p>
<p>You might be surprised how many people are hungry for change and want to stand out from the masses to have a stake in the country.</p>
<p>TKL hopefully is the start of something revolutionary for Singapore in a good sense.</p>
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		<title>By: 59er</title>
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		<dc:creator>59er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You got my vote Mr Tan, signatory 339.
Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got my vote Mr Tan, signatory 339.<br />
Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: TW people got special phones to use</title>
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		<dc:creator>TW people got special phones to use</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 04:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>73) Tan Kin Lian on November 25th, 2008 9.49 am Hi RED-man (#71)

Please send an email to me at kinlian@gmail.com. We can have a chat over the telephone.
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Sorry, I don&#039;t mean to be funny but I heard from TW tv stations that there are &#039;total privacy&#039; phones available there in TW used by those who can afford. kind of like full encryption mobile like Swiss bank level of security. ideally meet in person at home. 

What am i alluding? nothing. Just trying to suggest a way boost the economy by either spending on such phones or saving the earth by not using too much phone and meet in person. That all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>73) Tan Kin Lian on November 25th, 2008 9.49 am Hi RED-man (#71)</p>
<p>Please send an email to me at <a href="mailto:kinlian@gmail.com">kinlian@gmail.com</a>. We can have a chat over the telephone.<br />
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<p>Sorry, I don&#8217;t mean to be funny but I heard from TW tv stations that there are &#8216;total privacy&#8217; phones available there in TW used by those who can afford. kind of like full encryption mobile like Swiss bank level of security. ideally meet in person at home. </p>
<p>What am i alluding? nothing. Just trying to suggest a way boost the economy by either spending on such phones or saving the earth by not using too much phone and meet in person. That all.</p>
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