Isn’t it worrying that hazing (ragging) is banned in over 40 states in the US, yet is accepted as the ACJC culture, and even justified by the principal ?

My guess is that if what happened in the recent ACJC case had happened in the US, there would be consequences for the culprits involved.

And the ACJC principal Kelvyna Chan would be singing a totally different song.

if we live in a world without camera phones, wi-fi, youtube, social media, would this even be an issue discussed with such passion?

the generations that went through it before the arrival of social media did it – and i dont think it had any adverse effect on our society, nor were there reports of kids getting hurt, at least to my recollection.

kids will be kids. let them have their fun, whatever that definition of “fun” is these days. i would just say “please be careful and dont get hurt”…

Yah, how about it Roger Lim?

It’s either you put your money where your mouth is, or;
add more shit into it so that you can be kept busy trying to clean it.

Roger Lim,
What stopping you from doing the right thing then ? If you can do the the right thing by “representing the insurance policy holders [regarding] critical year issue, airline customers who had to pay more than the advertised prices, property buyers who were shorted some square feet from developers, MLM members who were mis-sold by overly enthusiatic direct sellers.” , so much the better, at least better than languishing your time thinking and writing some article throwing cold water at others who take the first step doing the right thing.
If you are so damn afraid, helpless and useless to do the right thing due to sheer effort and size of it, why discouraging others from doing so ? If you are incapable and inept, why even bother to write such crap to make up for your incompetence to make yourself feel good ?

I’m sure TKL will be happy if you just get your bum off the warm seat and do something about the thing you just mention.

Roger Lim,
What stopping you from doing the right thing then ? If you can do the the right thing by <> , so much the better, at least better than languishing your time thinking and writing some article throwing cold water at others who take the first step doing the right thing.
If you are so damn afraid, helpless and useless to do the right thing due to sheer effort and size of it, why discouraging others from doing so ? If you are incapable and inept, why even bother to write such crap to make up for your incompetence to make yourself feel good ?

I’m sure TKL will be happy if you just get your bum off the warm seat and do something about the thing you just mention.

The Mini Bonds was marketed as Low Risk. Get it? Investment tat may result in losing 100% Captial is never Low Risk. Thus High Risk marketed as Low Risk. It’s like wolf in sheep clothing. Is tat Mis Selling?

3) gemami

Nicely done. Maybe the stand is alrady a bit shaky but the Pple who build it insisted they used the best materials and the Usher Warden insist tat it’s ok. And the pple who employ the Builder just can’t be bothered as long as it can increase the number of Humans Per Sq Meter on the Stand. Like a certain Long Long White with Small Windows Thing tat Pple Take almost Daily.

Out of 10 children not 8

You can’t talk about the next generation when you can’t even take care of this one. Btw another thing that I have found out is that we are building alot of ITE in Singapore. Does that mean that not only we did not upgrade our people, we are actually thinking of downgrading them! Why I say that? Look at the ITE now, look more like a polytechnic to me by the scale of the buidling. Statistic speaking, for every ten Singapore children, at least 3 to 4 must go to ITE in order for it to be cost effective running the insitutions. Say 2010, out of 8 children, 7 actually go into university, 2 go to poly and only 1 will go to ITE. This mean that ITE will be running at lost at the expense of tax payer money.

But PAP will not do that. They will make sure they rise the standard of the education system and effectively ensuring there will be a significant number of people go into the ITE. I mean this is the only way, can we leave the ITE empty not? This is not the first time PAP do this. Just look at sengkang and pongol. HDB kept building there just to justify their water front over there because they don’t want some people to put a white elephant posters over there. Forgetting the fact that other have parents staying at the other side of the island.

Tan kin lian interview had stated very clearly, that for this
Sort of high risk investment, your so call high return is a joke! Like what Tan had mentioned, if DBS in the first place tell investor that if any of the 6 insitutions were to collapse so gone your investment. Well there anyone dare to even have interest in such scheme? I think your reasoning is very far fetch in the actual situation.

As for the construction of casino, I think you really miss the point. It Is not so simple as to abundant the project and leave it as it is at this stage. It is not about face as you have put it! You know how much jobs this project actually provided so far? Just look at the number of cranes. Even the biggest project I managed before only consists of 9 tower canes and 6 crawler cranes. It is already consider as big scale compared to the norm. You can argue that most job only go to the FT but do you know how many Singaporean involved as mangement position?

When Sand say that they will cease Macau project and focus in Singapore I thinkin it is very reasonable because mainland china refuse to issue visa to their PRC into Macau when they found that a lot of these money were lost to gamble over there. Meaning, having Singapore as a regional casino would therefore divert this potential gambler to our shore because issuing of visa for the PRC is up to Singapore to decide. This make a lot of sense why Sand will not give up the project here. In the end, question is about how much and if it is enough after giving up the Macau project to complete the Singapore casino.

You like it or not, Singapore has to go into casino. But my concern is, when PAP make money out of the casino, how much of these profit will go into the welfare of Singaporean? Do we have more subsidies on the medical, education and general standard of living? Or are they just going to increase their own salary only?

For your info, I am only of the Singaporean that wrote to the government forum to support having casino. Not that I want social problem for Singapore. But we have no choice because for the past mistakes PAP had made. For failure to keep our education relevant to the demand of the world in the past.

Have you ever wonder why we need so much FT when most of our Singaporean haven’t got a job? The fact that we have produce so much engineers and management people that it is no longer able to move our industrial to that of the most advance one. Such as bio research, R&D, IT etc. While amazingly, so call not so developed country like India, philipines and china had made those changes long time ago. Ask yourself how many management insitutions such SIM, SMU the government kept building and yet we are not looking into how to have more scientist and advance engineering people for the next generation? Do we have so many business to manage in Singapore?

He had complained about various unit trusts and investment-linked insurance policies.

So this isn’t a sudden platform he’s campaigning on.

You may not respect personal liberty, but there are many of us who do.

The parade started and the show was going smoothly when suddenly there was a loud ‘BANG!‘ and ‘CRASH!‘. The spectator-stand collapsed all of a sudden without warning. Many were groaning and in lots of pain. Panic-stricken family members and friends did not know what to do. The organizers stood in complete shock! Paralysis took control.

Out of the mayhem, one man ran out to take control. He tended to the injured. He gave his undivided attention to the grieving. He gave them both his ears. His heart was completely and fully poured out.

Many hours later, things began to cool a little.

Bystanders started making snide remarks that he only did it for his own glory. They challenged that he ought to have offered his help not only to the injured at the padang but also those that had been injured in traffic accidents and through illnesses elsewhere.

Some others commented that the spectator ought to have known better and that there was always the possibility that the stands would collapse. They should have seen it coming, or, that they went to the stands with eyes wide open.

Others still, blamed the young warden for directing people to the stand knowing full well that there is a chance that the stand would collapse, remote chance not withstanding.

No one blamed the construction company that built the stands. No one blamed the people who hired the construction company that built the stands.

The Hirer and the Construction Company now holds the decision on how much to compensate these victims, whether to compensate at all. They are also at liberty to decide who should or should not be compensated.

This is just a story after all.

It is easy to say that people who object to ragging are “prudes” or “retards”. But if a person loses his self respect , self worth and sense of dignity , the damage done is too high a price , just for the sake of “fun”. When an entire group has fun and make a fool of themselves for laughs , it is a totally different matter from one person being the object of fun and having the “fun” things done against his/her will ; ie being tied up or mouth taped etc. So please don’t use “fun” and “freedom” as excuses for the tyranny of the majority over an individual’s free will , self esteem and dignity.

I believe in freedom, and we cannot deny participants from their rights. Who are we to judge whether or not the ACJC kids were wrong in ragging their friend. Sure, its dangerous, but people’s reaction to punish these ‘raggers’ and to find solutions to prevent these sorts of thing happening again is just over exaggerating the possible consequences.

Why cut down the whole forest (denying freedom) just for one tree?