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		<title>By: aiyoyo</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/pay-cut-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-36567</link>
		<dc:creator>aiyoyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aiyoyo

&quot;Workers are very practical. If they have to choose between losing their jobs and taking a pay cut, they would choose less pay.&quot;

not sure if there&#039;s phrase for those PEOPLE???

aiyoyo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aiyoyo</p>
<p>&#8220;Workers are very practical. If they have to choose between losing their jobs and taking a pay cut, they would choose less pay.&#8221;</p>
<p>not sure if there&#8217;s phrase for those PEOPLE???</p>
<p>aiyoyo</p>
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		<title>By: Komenos</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/pay-cut-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-32343</link>
		<dc:creator>Komenos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t that being a Captain Obvious...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t that being a Captain Obvious&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/pay-cut-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-32335</link>
		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, such profound insight.
Why didn&#039;t I think of it?

:(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, such profound insight.<br />
Why didn&#8217;t I think of it?</p>
<p>:(</p>
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		<title>By: Singapore Resident</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/pay-cut-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-32334</link>
		<dc:creator>Singapore Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sinkees are very practical. If they have to choose between eating CHICKEN and over-stretching their budget, they would choose to eat FISH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sinkees are very practical. If they have to choose between eating CHICKEN and over-stretching their budget, they would choose to eat FISH.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/pay-cut-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-32329</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is she paid MP&#039;s allowance to tell those who might have to see her at meet the MPs session such rubbish? This is probably her one liner to those poor souls who have to fight with cheap foreign workers for jobs. Think we will be paid in RMB or rupees soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is she paid MP&#8217;s allowance to tell those who might have to see her at meet the MPs session such rubbish? This is probably her one liner to those poor souls who have to fight with cheap foreign workers for jobs. Think we will be paid in RMB or rupees soon.</p>
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		<title>By: isd</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/pay-cut-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-32324</link>
		<dc:creator>isd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looks like TOC is a site for feedback from true blue ordinary singaporeans,
 pro Singapore rather than anti PAP lah.  this is another way of seeing things.
this portal is open to all and it attracts all types, even those who suck on PAP
bananas can give their views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks like TOC is a site for feedback from true blue ordinary singaporeans,<br />
 pro Singapore rather than anti PAP lah.  this is another way of seeing things.<br />
this portal is open to all and it attracts all types, even those who suck on PAP<br />
bananas can give their views.</p>
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		<title>By: Worried</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/pay-cut-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-32323</link>
		<dc:creator>Worried</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ministers are very practical. If they have to choose between corruptions and taking million$$$ pay, they would choose million$$$ pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ministers are very practical. If they have to choose between corruptions and taking million$$$ pay, they would choose million$$$ pay.</p>
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		<title>By: WORKERS</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/pay-cut-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-32318</link>
		<dc:creator>WORKERS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Workers are very practical.
If so, Minister and MP are more practical, they should lead example for the WORKERS taking a pay cut.
They should taking a pay cut too..............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Workers are very practical.<br />
If so, Minister and MP are more practical, they should lead example for the WORKERS taking a pay cut.<br />
They should taking a pay cut too&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Donaldson Tan</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/pay-cut-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-32317</link>
		<dc:creator>Donaldson Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Wakou… even quotes like this can attract anti-PAP sentiments.&lt;/i&gt; - isa

Mdm Halimcob is speaking the obvious. It is as if she is treating workers as dumb-dumb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Wakou… even quotes like this can attract anti-PAP sentiments.</i> &#8211; isa</p>
<p>Mdm Halimcob is speaking the obvious. It is as if she is treating workers as dumb-dumb.</p>
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		<title>By: isa</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/pay-cut-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-32302</link>
		<dc:creator>isa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wakou... even quotes like this can attract anti-PAP sentiments..
This online portal is slowly morphing into anti-PAP portal..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wakou&#8230; even quotes like this can attract anti-PAP sentiments..<br />
This online portal is slowly morphing into anti-PAP portal..</p>
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		<title>By: moonlighting MP</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/pay-cut-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-32297</link>
		<dc:creator>moonlighting MP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at the last count, Halimah held 17 positions in various organizations.
basically moonlighting as member of parliament whilst doing so called other jobs. in effect she can afford to lose several jobs and she would not even blink.
isn&#039;t it nice to have incredible job security whilst dispensing no brainer advice ?

it is important to retrain, review paycut, replan on expenses in this downturn,
but more crucial is not to re vote the PAP if you did previously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at the last count, Halimah held 17 positions in various organizations.<br />
basically moonlighting as member of parliament whilst doing so called other jobs. in effect she can afford to lose several jobs and she would not even blink.<br />
isn&#8217;t it nice to have incredible job security whilst dispensing no brainer advice ?</p>
<p>it is important to retrain, review paycut, replan on expenses in this downturn,<br />
but more crucial is not to re vote the PAP if you did previously.</p>
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		<title>By: Donaldson Tan</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/pay-cut-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-32290</link>
		<dc:creator>Donaldson Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;i thot it shld be “Ministers, on the other hand, are very idealistic. If they have to choose between their cabinet positions and taking a pay cut, they would rather return to the private sector”.&lt;/i&gt; - pigscanfly (#11)

Shouldn&#039;t that be the reason for the ministers to quit and stay with the private sector for good?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>i thot it shld be “Ministers, on the other hand, are very idealistic. If they have to choose between their cabinet positions and taking a pay cut, they would rather return to the private sector”.</i> &#8211; pigscanfly (#11)</p>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t that be the reason for the ministers to quit and stay with the private sector for good?</p>
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		<title>By: pigscanfly</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/pay-cut-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-32289</link>
		<dc:creator>pigscanfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ark, are you sure?!

i thot it shld be &quot;Ministers, on the other hand, are very idealistic. If they have to choose between their cabinet positions and taking a pay cut, they would rather return to the private sector&quot;.

yap, that shld be the argument to raise their own pay come end of the year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ark, are you sure?!</p>
<p>i thot it shld be &#8220;Ministers, on the other hand, are very idealistic. If they have to choose between their cabinet positions and taking a pay cut, they would rather return to the private sector&#8221;.</p>
<p>yap, that shld be the argument to raise their own pay come end of the year.</p>
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		<title>By: Ark</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/pay-cut-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-32287</link>
		<dc:creator>Ark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol @ self pwn!

&quot;Ministers are very practical. If they have to choose between losing their jobs and taking a pay cut, they would choose less pay.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol @ self pwn!</p>
<p>&#8220;Ministers are very practical. If they have to choose between losing their jobs and taking a pay cut, they would choose less pay.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ChangeCanHappen</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/pay-cut-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-32263</link>
		<dc:creator>ChangeCanHappen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 05:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fail to see the need for such a statement. 

&quot;...between losing their jobs and taking a pay cut, they would choose less pay.&quot;

can be alternatively re-phrased as:

&quot;between having no pay and having some pay, they would prefer having less.&quot;

We&#039;re paying top-pay for people to think up words like these?? On another note, can&#039;t this also be applied to our top civil servants? Taking a &#039;pay-cut&#039; to ensure a virtually perpetual career?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fail to see the need for such a statement. </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;between losing their jobs and taking a pay cut, they would choose less pay.&#8221;</p>
<p>can be alternatively re-phrased as:</p>
<p>&#8220;between having no pay and having some pay, they would prefer having less.&#8221;</p>
<p>We&#8217;re paying top-pay for people to think up words like these?? On another note, can&#8217;t this also be applied to our top civil servants? Taking a &#8216;pay-cut&#8217; to ensure a virtually perpetual career?</p>
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		<title>By: dennis</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/pay-cut-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-32250</link>
		<dc:creator>dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 05:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just got an unsolicited email, look at what they are advertising, and you wonder why Singaporeans have no jobs



Subject: Calling All Employers, Hire Foreign Workers At No Charge! 


Dear Employer/Hiring Manager

....Do you find it difficult and expensive to hire local staff?

Why not consider hiring foreign talents. With the recent relaxation of rules by the MOM regarding hiring of foreign workers, it is indeed the right time for you to consider foreign recruitment.

We are a foreign recruitment agency licensed by the MOM in Singapore. For the past 5 years, we have been providing thousands of foreign workers to many firms throughout Singapore.

Our foreign recruitment services include the following:
.Absolutely No Upfront Fees, no agency fees charged to Emplolyers *for China &amp; Indian workers
.Hassle fre.e service
.We provide all documentations, local errands, arrange for medical appointments, accomodation.
. Free replacement with Guarantee.
. All workers under our charge have gone through strict screening by our overseas counterparts and close monitoring by us when in Singapore

Our foreign sources:
China, India, Vietnam, Malaysia

The type of occupations/positions:
General workers,production operators,sales/shop assistants,sales promoter,bakers,car mechanics,chefs/cooks(chinese cuisine),waiters&amp;waitress,kitchen helpers,cleaners,service crew,general clerk,florist arranger,gardener,technicians, teachers etc.
Engineers(requires specific skills and qualification), mechanics for sophiscated industrial machinery,IT professional and other highly trained professionals.
Hair and beauty industry.shampoo girl,beauticians,massage therapist,foot reflexologist and manicurists.

Call us today for any enquiries.
We will be glad to advise the process and on your eligibilty to hire foreign workers. Absolutely no obligation.

Call XXX Consultants at XXXXXXXX, XXXXXXXX.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got an unsolicited email, look at what they are advertising, and you wonder why Singaporeans have no jobs</p>
<p>Subject: Calling All Employers, Hire Foreign Workers At No Charge! </p>
<p>Dear Employer/Hiring Manager</p>
<p>&#8230;.Do you find it difficult and expensive to hire local staff?</p>
<p>Why not consider hiring foreign talents. With the recent relaxation of rules by the MOM regarding hiring of foreign workers, it is indeed the right time for you to consider foreign recruitment.</p>
<p>We are a foreign recruitment agency licensed by the MOM in Singapore. For the past 5 years, we have been providing thousands of foreign workers to many firms throughout Singapore.</p>
<p>Our foreign recruitment services include the following:<br />
.Absolutely No Upfront Fees, no agency fees charged to Emplolyers *for China &amp; Indian workers<br />
.Hassle fre.e service<br />
.We provide all documentations, local errands, arrange for medical appointments, accomodation.<br />
. Free replacement with Guarantee.<br />
. All workers under our charge have gone through strict screening by our overseas counterparts and close monitoring by us when in Singapore</p>
<p>Our foreign sources:<br />
China, India, Vietnam, Malaysia</p>
<p>The type of occupations/positions:<br />
General workers,production operators,sales/shop assistants,sales promoter,bakers,car mechanics,chefs/cooks(chinese cuisine),waiters&amp;waitress,kitchen helpers,cleaners,service crew,general clerk,florist arranger,gardener,technicians, teachers etc.<br />
Engineers(requires specific skills and qualification), mechanics for sophiscated industrial machinery,IT professional and other highly trained professionals.<br />
Hair and beauty industry.shampoo girl,beauticians,massage therapist,foot reflexologist and manicurists.</p>
<p>Call us today for any enquiries.<br />
We will be glad to advise the process and on your eligibilty to hire foreign workers. Absolutely no obligation.</p>
<p>Call XXX Consultants at XXXXXXXX, XXXXXXXX.</p>
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		<title>By: gemami</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/pay-cut-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-32234</link>
		<dc:creator>gemami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 04:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;if this ex- PAP person had been paid salary of 78K more a year, would that have prevented him from committing the same? &lt;/i&gt;

ha! ha! ha! ha! . . . . . I think this is how the PAP govt works.
Everytime they feel like they are becoming corrupted, they increase their own pay to prevent themselves from being corrupted. Talk about missing the trees for the mountain......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>if this ex- PAP person had been paid salary of 78K more a year, would that have prevented him from committing the same? </i></p>
<p>ha! ha! ha! ha! . . . . . I think this is how the PAP govt works.<br />
Everytime they feel like they are becoming corrupted, they increase their own pay to prevent themselves from being corrupted. Talk about missing the trees for the mountain&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Donaldson Tan</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/pay-cut-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-32226</link>
		<dc:creator>Donaldson Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 04:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Madam Halimah,

What if the &lt;i&gt;less&lt;/i&gt; pay falls below the living wage?


Cheers
Donald</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Madam Halimah,</p>
<p>What if the <i>less</i> pay falls below the living wage?</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Donald</p>
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		<title>By: golly jee</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/pay-cut-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-32190</link>
		<dc:creator>golly jee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha.

DBS boss lagi practical !

They will choose cut jobs - so how?

Halimah also sing to their tune what!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha.</p>
<p>DBS boss lagi practical !</p>
<p>They will choose cut jobs &#8211; so how?</p>
<p>Halimah also sing to their tune what!</p>
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		<title>By: dodo</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/pay-cut-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-32184</link>
		<dc:creator>dodo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unions should push for legislation to protect workers who are retrenched by their profitable companies after their long service with them . workers may not mind retrenchment if they are paid off decently - for example a minimum of a month of severance pay for each year of service. the retrenchment monies can help the families over one or two years of layoff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unions should push for legislation to protect workers who are retrenched by their profitable companies after their long service with them . workers may not mind retrenchment if they are paid off decently &#8211; for example a minimum of a month of severance pay for each year of service. the retrenchment monies can help the families over one or two years of layoff.</p>
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