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		<title>By: Zeitgeist</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/political-openness-why-are-the-fleas-still-dancing-inside/comment-page-1/#comment-35553</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeitgeist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;They&#039; are winners. They had always won and they will continue to win. They will keep winning until there&#039;s nothing left to be won. It&#039;s a form of swarming. Just allow history to swallow us up. Stop wasting your energy. Put it to better use like putting food on the table. At least for the time we have left .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;They&#8217; are winners. They had always won and they will continue to win. They will keep winning until there&#8217;s nothing left to be won. It&#8217;s a form of swarming. Just allow history to swallow us up. Stop wasting your energy. Put it to better use like putting food on the table. At least for the time we have left .</p>
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		<title>By: C J</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/political-openness-why-are-the-fleas-still-dancing-inside/comment-page-1/#comment-35352</link>
		<dc:creator>C J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 20:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing &#039;open&#039;, is his mouth...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing &#8216;open&#8217;, is his mouth&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nokia71</title>
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		<dc:creator>nokia71</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 17:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So basically, in other words, you don’t need to look forward to the next big rally to see the PAP. Just do some soul searching, and you’ll find them deep within you.
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hi, nice article. I especially like the last para, which to some extent is soooo true.

But perhaps you are too young to realize that, changes have come, and will continue to come, as long as there are people who desire so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So basically, in other words, you don’t need to look forward to the next big rally to see the PAP. Just do some soul searching, and you’ll find them deep within you.<br />
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<p>hi, nice article. I especially like the last para, which to some extent is soooo true.</p>
<p>But perhaps you are too young to realize that, changes have come, and will continue to come, as long as there are people who desire so.</p>
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		<title>By: x</title>
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		<dc:creator>x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don&#039;t underestimate the chance of liberalization. change happens extremely fast in singapore, by  the virtue of being a small country. you all have seen singapore can transform itself from a sleepy regional port to developed country in a mere 3 decades, because of being a small country. liberalization can also happen in staggering speed. indonesia, a large country, takes less than 10 years to be democracy. singapore obviously needs less time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t underestimate the chance of liberalization. change happens extremely fast in singapore, by  the virtue of being a small country. you all have seen singapore can transform itself from a sleepy regional port to developed country in a mere 3 decades, because of being a small country. liberalization can also happen in staggering speed. indonesia, a large country, takes less than 10 years to be democracy. singapore obviously needs less time.</p>
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		<title>By: tieren</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/political-openness-why-are-the-fleas-still-dancing-inside/comment-page-1/#comment-35039</link>
		<dc:creator>tieren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>political vibrancy is a culture. Like all other cultures, it has to be cultivated ground up, from the people. sure, the government can encourage it or discourage it, but the main impetus is the people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>political vibrancy is a culture. Like all other cultures, it has to be cultivated ground up, from the people. sure, the government can encourage it or discourage it, but the main impetus is the people.</p>
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		<title>By: No news is good news !</title>
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		<dc:creator>No news is good news !</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good day Alistair,

Good piece , I would like to share that we need to clearly ask ourselves ? Is the current Govt good enough to take care of Singaporeans who are in need? 

Is the current govt capable of pulling us through tough times, when it&#039;s crunch time ? or do they provide us with sugar coatings of EMPTY world class slogans that fades into ash, as the clock ticks and try to renew it with a better phase the next time round.

Many will say that nothing can be done, and there are many that say changes to improve the quality of life of Singpooreans can be made with small infant  steps that  will eventually lead to hugh and positive changes for the better

Heres something I would like to share with you. (read it somewhere off the web)

Watch your thoughts
The become your actions
Watch your actions 
They become your habits
Watch your habits
They become your character
Watch your character 
they become your destiny

The limitations and answers lies within ourselves.
Look deep within and if you should ever get a chance to vote.
Please make the right choice, and please feel free to share the TOC website with your friends and family. Let them decide and feel that theres lots that can be done for OUR Singapore 

Singaporeans need to be well informed of how policy formulation and the lack of transparency can have a downhill impact on their lives.

Change for the better begins and ends with you, never with others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good day Alistair,</p>
<p>Good piece , I would like to share that we need to clearly ask ourselves ? Is the current Govt good enough to take care of Singaporeans who are in need? </p>
<p>Is the current govt capable of pulling us through tough times, when it&#8217;s crunch time ? or do they provide us with sugar coatings of EMPTY world class slogans that fades into ash, as the clock ticks and try to renew it with a better phase the next time round.</p>
<p>Many will say that nothing can be done, and there are many that say changes to improve the quality of life of Singpooreans can be made with small infant  steps that  will eventually lead to hugh and positive changes for the better</p>
<p>Heres something I would like to share with you. (read it somewhere off the web)</p>
<p>Watch your thoughts<br />
The become your actions<br />
Watch your actions<br />
They become your habits<br />
Watch your habits<br />
They become your character<br />
Watch your character<br />
they become your destiny</p>
<p>The limitations and answers lies within ourselves.<br />
Look deep within and if you should ever get a chance to vote.<br />
Please make the right choice, and please feel free to share the TOC website with your friends and family. Let them decide and feel that theres lots that can be done for OUR Singapore </p>
<p>Singaporeans need to be well informed of how policy formulation and the lack of transparency can have a downhill impact on their lives.</p>
<p>Change for the better begins and ends with you, never with others.</p>
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		<title>By: victor @young generation@</title>
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		<dc:creator>victor @young generation@</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>8...

what a good say..
i have the same feeling with u..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>8&#8230;</p>
<p>what a good say..<br />
i have the same feeling with u..</p>
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		<title>By: tiredsingaporean</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiredsingaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t like this person in the picture here, as though he is pointing his finger and say &quot;See! all these people out there are idiots and they always believe what I say&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like this person in the picture here, as though he is pointing his finger and say &#8220;See! all these people out there are idiots and they always believe what I say&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Albert</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/political-openness-why-are-the-fleas-still-dancing-inside/comment-page-1/#comment-34486</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 06:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed! well said smallvice585 #.1

The writer of this article may be right that Singaporean is very much materials. But, in every era, we see that you only need one person to do the difference and the rest would eventually realize the truth and follow. Gandhi of India, Sun Yet Seng of China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed! well said smallvice585 #.1</p>
<p>The writer of this article may be right that Singaporean is very much materials. But, in every era, we see that you only need one person to do the difference and the rest would eventually realize the truth and follow. Gandhi of India, Sun Yet Seng of China.</p>
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		<title>By: Blind man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blind man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 04:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CHANGE begins and ends with YOU as an individual. No point saying the REST of the masses will vote otherwise.

When it comes down to YOU AND ONLY YOU to vote as an individual, what WILL you do ?? 

Follow the lambs to the slaughter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CHANGE begins and ends with YOU as an individual. No point saying the REST of the masses will vote otherwise.</p>
<p>When it comes down to YOU AND ONLY YOU to vote as an individual, what WILL you do ?? </p>
<p>Follow the lambs to the slaughter?</p>
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		<title>By: Self-enclosed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Self-enclosed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most Singaporean are like the frogs living in the well, they never hv the chance to see things outside of the well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most Singaporean are like the frogs living in the well, they never hv the chance to see things outside of the well.</p>
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		<title>By: gemami</title>
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		<dc:creator>gemami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to read but not very insightful. I take offence on the sentence; &lt;i&gt; No matter how much our political liberties our expanded, no change will ever come.&lt;/i&gt;

This is a sentence that not only questions the generation before us together with the present generation, but also questions the future generations to come. Can anyone be so sure today that he is able to speak for tomorrow? 

I will agree with the statement insofar as the PAP govt continues with the good works shown by their predecessors, the old guards. That was a group of rulers whose primary focus was the welfare of the people.

The current PAP govt shares only one thing in common to the PAP govt of the old guards. It carries the same name but it&#039;s vision and mission have shifted beyond what the party had originally stood for. 

This LHL govt is not PAP. It is a party that disguises itself as PAP. People still think it is PAP because of the link in the LEE name. This PAP govt is the devil in disguise.

Change will come. Remember these phrase when you think all is quiet and obedient - - - &lt;i&gt;Barking dogs seldom bite&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to read but not very insightful. I take offence on the sentence; <i> No matter how much our political liberties our expanded, no change will ever come.</i></p>
<p>This is a sentence that not only questions the generation before us together with the present generation, but also questions the future generations to come. Can anyone be so sure today that he is able to speak for tomorrow? </p>
<p>I will agree with the statement insofar as the PAP govt continues with the good works shown by their predecessors, the old guards. That was a group of rulers whose primary focus was the welfare of the people.</p>
<p>The current PAP govt shares only one thing in common to the PAP govt of the old guards. It carries the same name but it&#8217;s vision and mission have shifted beyond what the party had originally stood for. </p>
<p>This LHL govt is not PAP. It is a party that disguises itself as PAP. People still think it is PAP because of the link in the LEE name. This PAP govt is the devil in disguise.</p>
<p>Change will come. Remember these phrase when you think all is quiet and obedient &#8211; - &#8211; <i>Barking dogs seldom bite</i></p>
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		<title>By: guojun</title>
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		<dc:creator>guojun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not a figurehead.  People keep thinking that the opposition needs a figurehead, etc etc.  What happened to JBJ?  He was a figurehead and he was sued, bankrupted and more.  And he is DEAD.  The author is right in that the only way for Singaporeans to get angry enough to actually rise up is by attacking their wallets, and it is happening before our eyes.

What&#039;s more if there is a figurehead who leads the way, who&#039;s to say that he&#039;s not the next LKY in the making?  Do we want another LKY?  Do we want an Obama?  In pragmatic Singapore, political ideals cannot eat one.  Want the public to stand up?  Then hope that gahmen makes a few more wrong investments...but is Singapore ready for the consequences?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a figurehead.  People keep thinking that the opposition needs a figurehead, etc etc.  What happened to JBJ?  He was a figurehead and he was sued, bankrupted and more.  And he is DEAD.  The author is right in that the only way for Singaporeans to get angry enough to actually rise up is by attacking their wallets, and it is happening before our eyes.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s more if there is a figurehead who leads the way, who&#8217;s to say that he&#8217;s not the next LKY in the making?  Do we want another LKY?  Do we want an Obama?  In pragmatic Singapore, political ideals cannot eat one.  Want the public to stand up?  Then hope that gahmen makes a few more wrong investments&#8230;but is Singapore ready for the consequences?</p>
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		<title>By: blizful4</title>
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		<dc:creator>blizful4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the thing that really is lacking is a figurehead or a group of figureheads to drive this &quot;opening of political space.&quot; who can we look for to lead the way in opening up alternate views physically and on the ground?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the thing that really is lacking is a figurehead or a group of figureheads to drive this &#8220;opening of political space.&#8221; who can we look for to lead the way in opening up alternate views physically and on the ground?</p>
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		<title>By: smallvice585</title>
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		<dc:creator>smallvice585</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It all begins with the small issues such as public transport fare hikes and outrageous revision in electricity tariff. Once people have tasted freedom, then they would have realised what is missing and what makes them human. 

Until one has participated in a protest or represented an interest group to negotiate concessions, one would not understand the sense of humanity and rawness that is associated to the freedom of speech and the freedom of association. 

It is funny how Singaporeans associated such freedoms as Western concepts. They are not Western, but fundamental to every human person. These freedoms have always been practised in Asia but nobody has ever gave a name to it. Examples of demonstrated freedom of association and freedom of speech would be the Hokkien Clan and the Chinese Chamber of Commerce in Singapore. The West may be more vocal about these freedoms than the East but it doesn&#039;t mean that the East never had or practised these freedoms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It all begins with the small issues such as public transport fare hikes and outrageous revision in electricity tariff. Once people have tasted freedom, then they would have realised what is missing and what makes them human. </p>
<p>Until one has participated in a protest or represented an interest group to negotiate concessions, one would not understand the sense of humanity and rawness that is associated to the freedom of speech and the freedom of association. </p>
<p>It is funny how Singaporeans associated such freedoms as Western concepts. They are not Western, but fundamental to every human person. These freedoms have always been practised in Asia but nobody has ever gave a name to it. Examples of demonstrated freedom of association and freedom of speech would be the Hokkien Clan and the Chinese Chamber of Commerce in Singapore. The West may be more vocal about these freedoms than the East but it doesn&#8217;t mean that the East never had or practised these freedoms.</p>
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