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		<title>By: RED-man</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/singaporean-killed-in-mumbai/comment-page-2/#comment-37746</link>
		<dc:creator>RED-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suddenily, this had become a DRAMA with deceased husband appear on the national television talking grand mother story! How about making a mounument at the centre of Orchard road.

Which part of RIP, people don&#039;t understand? Including the family of the decreased and mostly the husband. Don&#039;t think TOC need to further promote this topic since our national media had been doing so well on this! With all due respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suddenily, this had become a DRAMA with deceased husband appear on the national television talking grand mother story! How about making a mounument at the centre of Orchard road.</p>
<p>Which part of RIP, people don&#8217;t understand? Including the family of the decreased and mostly the husband. Don&#8217;t think TOC need to further promote this topic since our national media had been doing so well on this! With all due respect.</p>
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		<title>By: loop</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/singaporean-killed-in-mumbai/comment-page-2/#comment-37694</link>
		<dc:creator>loop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why you all like channel news asia?  Only report this kind of news &amp; those passengers at Changi airport back from Bangkok.  Let&#039;s focus on topics like retrenchments, town council investments, plight of minibonds &amp; pinnacle notes holders, rising cost etc.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why you all like channel news asia?  Only report this kind of news &amp; those passengers at Changi airport back from Bangkok.  Let&#8217;s focus on topics like retrenchments, town council investments, plight of minibonds &amp; pinnacle notes holders, rising cost etc&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My condolences to this brave stranger.. curse those terrorists..  Hope her love ones and family will continue to live on bravely... May her spirits rest in peace.. 

Life is fragile.. Treasure and cherish...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My condolences to this brave stranger.. curse those terrorists..  Hope her love ones and family will continue to live on bravely&#8230; May her spirits rest in peace.. </p>
<p>Life is fragile.. Treasure and cherish&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Faith</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/singaporean-killed-in-mumbai/comment-page-2/#comment-37600</link>
		<dc:creator>Faith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wish to encourage Ms Lo family in this times of trial and sadness..
I juz get married and same age as Ms Lo..
I can mgaine how sad her hubby will  be..I see her happy face, her beautiful smile in her wedding gown, her successful career as a lawyer..really feel so sad she is gone just like that..so innocent..she is definetly a loss to all of us.
May she rest in peace and look over her loved ones..
We will always be praying for u ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wish to encourage Ms Lo family in this times of trial and sadness..<br />
I juz get married and same age as Ms Lo..<br />
I can mgaine how sad her hubby will  be..I see her happy face, her beautiful smile in her wedding gown, her successful career as a lawyer..really feel so sad she is gone just like that..so innocent..she is definetly a loss to all of us.<br />
May she rest in peace and look over her loved ones..<br />
We will always be praying for u ..</p>
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		<title>By: kelly</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/singaporean-killed-in-mumbai/comment-page-2/#comment-37540</link>
		<dc:creator>kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REDMAN, I agree with your 2 suggestions of #1 getting more involved and #2 to start contributing (there are more ways than 1 to contribute).

&quot;Once we step out of our country, we have every possible chance of crossing into the path of one (assuming Singapore. However, after Mas Selamat incident I no longer can be sure of that answer).&quot;

Anyone who has the emotional and mental fragility of those brainwashed to join the terrorists on their missions, is capable of becoming a terrorist.  &quot;While living in safety, be aware of danger.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REDMAN, I agree with your 2 suggestions of #1 getting more involved and #2 to start contributing (there are more ways than 1 to contribute).</p>
<p>&#8220;Once we step out of our country, we have every possible chance of crossing into the path of one (assuming Singapore. However, after Mas Selamat incident I no longer can be sure of that answer).&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyone who has the emotional and mental fragility of those brainwashed to join the terrorists on their missions, is capable of becoming a terrorist.  &#8220;While living in safety, be aware of danger.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: RED-man</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/singaporean-killed-in-mumbai/comment-page-2/#comment-37504</link>
		<dc:creator>RED-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seriously hope Singaporean one day will have the same Nationalism awareness on it&#039;s own country politic environment so as to:

1. Get more involved 

2. and start contributing 

To ensure necessary changes are made to better the country we once familiar with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seriously hope Singaporean one day will have the same Nationalism awareness on it&#8217;s own country politic environment so as to:</p>
<p>1. Get more involved </p>
<p>2. and start contributing </p>
<p>To ensure necessary changes are made to better the country we once familiar with.</p>
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		<title>By: RED-man</title>
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		<dc:creator>RED-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote: 
(assuming Singapore is safe. However, after Mas Selamat incident I no longer can be sure of that answer).

Typo</description>
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(assuming Singapore is safe. However, after Mas Selamat incident I no longer can be sure of that answer).</p>
<p>Typo</p>
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		<title>By: RED-man</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/singaporean-killed-in-mumbai/comment-page-2/#comment-37500</link>
		<dc:creator>RED-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, we all know the current world is full of terrorists and they are ever ready to make a statement anywhere, anytime if it is allowed!

Once we step out of our country, we have every possible chance of crossing into the path of one (assuming Singapore. However, after Mas Selamat incident I no longer can be sure of that answer). 

Pardon me for saying this. What I don&#039;t understand is why our national news publicized this issue as if we die a war hero? Which make me come to the conclusion that Singapore is so well brain washed that we are safe in our own haven that when such thing happened, we react what we are reacting now. Yet, when there are many fellow Singaporean who choose to jump down the building or MRT tracks to end their problem, we just read the newspaper and think nothing of it (such issue are much closer to us as average Singaporean). 

What I would expect the people (Singaporean) to understand that, danger is always lurking somewhere in the corner outside this island. It is the awareness all Singaporean need to have and need to be ready when traveling outside the country. This is your only protection and don’t ever expect Singapore Government to help you on that! If they don’t help you at home, I don’t think there is much for them to do overseas. 

Many post contributors here kept reminding the other local media is propaganda of the ruling party. Yet, when it happened, most people don’t even know you are already in the propaganda. George Bush political career almost gone if not for the 911 incident, sometime, the timing is so coincident that I suspect he has successfully make the whole world (noted, not USA only) believe in his propaganda! He is stupid? No, his IQ is very much above our Old man considering the fact that Bush ability to control the emotion of the world to justify his war but Harry ability only limited to Singapore. 

Why? Because Singapore react the way they react when such incident happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, we all know the current world is full of terrorists and they are ever ready to make a statement anywhere, anytime if it is allowed!</p>
<p>Once we step out of our country, we have every possible chance of crossing into the path of one (assuming Singapore. However, after Mas Selamat incident I no longer can be sure of that answer). </p>
<p>Pardon me for saying this. What I don&#8217;t understand is why our national news publicized this issue as if we die a war hero? Which make me come to the conclusion that Singapore is so well brain washed that we are safe in our own haven that when such thing happened, we react what we are reacting now. Yet, when there are many fellow Singaporean who choose to jump down the building or MRT tracks to end their problem, we just read the newspaper and think nothing of it (such issue are much closer to us as average Singaporean). </p>
<p>What I would expect the people (Singaporean) to understand that, danger is always lurking somewhere in the corner outside this island. It is the awareness all Singaporean need to have and need to be ready when traveling outside the country. This is your only protection and don’t ever expect Singapore Government to help you on that! If they don’t help you at home, I don’t think there is much for them to do overseas. </p>
<p>Many post contributors here kept reminding the other local media is propaganda of the ruling party. Yet, when it happened, most people don’t even know you are already in the propaganda. George Bush political career almost gone if not for the 911 incident, sometime, the timing is so coincident that I suspect he has successfully make the whole world (noted, not USA only) believe in his propaganda! He is stupid? No, his IQ is very much above our Old man considering the fact that Bush ability to control the emotion of the world to justify his war but Harry ability only limited to Singapore. </p>
<p>Why? Because Singapore react the way they react when such incident happened.</p>
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		<title>By: bismarker</title>
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		<dc:creator>bismarker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@daniel

earlier, u make the point of screening indians, i believed I have pointed out to you that as now as it is claimed by India, the terrorists are militants from Pakistan, despite the very fact that these terrorist might very well be Indian Muslims who are disenchanted with their position in society. You then gave me the example of Ang mohs, to which I would agree that terrorists cannot be deduced by their appearances. What I am making against you is your apparent xenophobic stand that terrorists simply have to be &#039;outsiders&#039;, when if the logic that terrorists can be both local or foreign elements in any state or society. My question then to you is why not screen everyone, anyone who carries a bag or looks vaguely like a terrorist.</description>
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<p>earlier, u make the point of screening indians, i believed I have pointed out to you that as now as it is claimed by India, the terrorists are militants from Pakistan, despite the very fact that these terrorist might very well be Indian Muslims who are disenchanted with their position in society. You then gave me the example of Ang mohs, to which I would agree that terrorists cannot be deduced by their appearances. What I am making against you is your apparent xenophobic stand that terrorists simply have to be &#8216;outsiders&#8217;, when if the logic that terrorists can be both local or foreign elements in any state or society. My question then to you is why not screen everyone, anyone who carries a bag or looks vaguely like a terrorist.</p>
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		<title>By: kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, LogicalMan, I have moved on (may be too quickly) because I don&#039;t know of anything else that I can do for Ms Lo&#039;s family. I am quite imaginary and again I am imagining her reading these threads.

She enjoys intelligent banter (I was told). So please bear with me while I share/discuss about terrorism with SmallVoice585, who I have peer respect for.

There&#039;s another site if you wish to send your condolescence once again (I&#039;ve sent mine in Facebook yesterday) ---&gt; http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=52642605469&amp;ref=ts

Dearest Smallvoice585, Thank you very much for replying and for the clarification. I thought you were saying Ms Lo retaliated and I thought I must have missed some news! haha

&quot;Yes, most people do not understand terrorism and all they know is to be terrified of it. &quot;

Most of us also think about the question,&quot;How can/do I protect my family? What am I to tell my children?&quot; And actually, a handful know that their longterm goal is to take over the world, much like how Japanese wanted to conquer the world. 

Wait ar, don&#039;t laugh (ok, I know you are laughing or thinking how silly!) lol A few months ago while searching for ebooks, I came across an Arabian FORUM revealing the terrorists&#039; plans to do just that (it was mixed with Arabic characters and English words). But with a twist. 

They want the &quot;old rules&quot;. Like....robbers will have their hands cut off, liars will have their tongues cut off. And if you date someone who isn&#039;t Muslim, your father has the right to kill you in any way he wants. Blaj blah...in time to come, their longterm plan includes reigning the world with only Muslim leaders. Muslim leaders and....only Muslims.

The info came from a few people in the forum warning their peers of the terrorists&#039; intentions with links to videos (in Arabic, so i do not understand what&#039;s being said.)

That is why I tell why most of us have underestimated their psychology.

However, the good news. I don&#039;t think they will be successful if Nostradamus&#039; predictions are to be accurate once again. He&#039;s predicted USA&#039;s 911 amongst many other things (original prediction is in French poetry so as to avoid being accused of witchery or rather wizardry and heresy).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, LogicalMan, I have moved on (may be too quickly) because I don&#8217;t know of anything else that I can do for Ms Lo&#8217;s family. I am quite imaginary and again I am imagining her reading these threads.</p>
<p>She enjoys intelligent banter (I was told). So please bear with me while I share/discuss about terrorism with SmallVoice585, who I have peer respect for.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s another site if you wish to send your condolescence once again (I&#8217;ve sent mine in Facebook yesterday) &#8212;&gt; <a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=52642605469&#038;ref=ts" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=52642605469&#038;ref=ts</a></p>
<p>Dearest Smallvoice585, Thank you very much for replying and for the clarification. I thought you were saying Ms Lo retaliated and I thought I must have missed some news! haha</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes, most people do not understand terrorism and all they know is to be terrified of it. &#8221;</p>
<p>Most of us also think about the question,&#8221;How can/do I protect my family? What am I to tell my children?&#8221; And actually, a handful know that their longterm goal is to take over the world, much like how Japanese wanted to conquer the world. </p>
<p>Wait ar, don&#8217;t laugh (ok, I know you are laughing or thinking how silly!) lol A few months ago while searching for ebooks, I came across an Arabian FORUM revealing the terrorists&#8217; plans to do just that (it was mixed with Arabic characters and English words). But with a twist. </p>
<p>They want the &#8220;old rules&#8221;. Like&#8230;.robbers will have their hands cut off, liars will have their tongues cut off. And if you date someone who isn&#8217;t Muslim, your father has the right to kill you in any way he wants. Blaj blah&#8230;in time to come, their longterm plan includes reigning the world with only Muslim leaders. Muslim leaders and&#8230;.only Muslims.</p>
<p>The info came from a few people in the forum warning their peers of the terrorists&#8217; intentions with links to videos (in Arabic, so i do not understand what&#8217;s being said.)</p>
<p>That is why I tell why most of us have underestimated their psychology.</p>
<p>However, the good news. I don&#8217;t think they will be successful if Nostradamus&#8217; predictions are to be accurate once again. He&#8217;s predicted USA&#8217;s 911 amongst many other things (original prediction is in French poetry so as to avoid being accused of witchery or rather wizardry and heresy).</p>
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		<title>By: kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  I think Daniel has a point.    (You can&#039;t tell if someone is a terrorist or not, just by their appearance.)  And also on the point that arrogance can &quot;trigger&quot; terrorists - that&#039;s all possible too.

I am now suddenly more wary of people carrying heavy or big luggages.  But I am also aware that it doesn&#039;t take a lot of space to create an automated bomb (wires and some chemicals extracted from....).

One thing for sure, IF the govt has any ways to fend off the attacks of terrorists, they are not going to publicize it.  Should such how-to be shared/discussed online (protection against terrorists&#039; attacks)?  What do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  I think Daniel has a point.    (You can&#8217;t tell if someone is a terrorist or not, just by their appearance.)  And also on the point that arrogance can &#8220;trigger&#8221; terrorists &#8211; that&#8217;s all possible too.</p>
<p>I am now suddenly more wary of people carrying heavy or big luggages.  But I am also aware that it doesn&#8217;t take a lot of space to create an automated bomb (wires and some chemicals extracted from&#8230;.).</p>
<p>One thing for sure, IF the govt has any ways to fend off the attacks of terrorists, they are not going to publicize it.  Should such how-to be shared/discussed online (protection against terrorists&#8217; attacks)?  What do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: logicalman</title>
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		<dc:creator>logicalman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms Lo&#039;s passing away is a personal tragedy for a typical Singaporean family, regardless of nationality, religion, profession, political affiliation, or race. Let&#039;s not politicize this, or use this as a springboard to justify matters of national security or defence.

For those who have expressed their condolences, let&#039;s move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms Lo&#8217;s passing away is a personal tragedy for a typical Singaporean family, regardless of nationality, religion, profession, political affiliation, or race. Let&#8217;s not politicize this, or use this as a springboard to justify matters of national security or defence.</p>
<p>For those who have expressed their condolences, let&#8217;s move on.</p>
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		<title>By: smallvoice585</title>
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		<dc:creator>smallvoice585</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear kelly #48,

Yes, most people do not understand terrorism and all they know is to be terrified of it.  Some politicians do understand the root causes of it but they either keep quiet and pretended not to understand.  They have good reasons for behaving in such a manner, mostly because of their own political agenda.

The party that is &#039;weak&#039; is the party that has to resort to desperate tactics of terrorism because they do not have the military resources to conduct conventional warfare.  The terrorists are retaliating on behalf of those whom they perceived to have been persecuted.

Of course, Miss Lo was not the one retaliating, but she was at the wrong place at the wrong time and was part of the collateral damage of such warfare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear kelly #48,</p>
<p>Yes, most people do not understand terrorism and all they know is to be terrified of it.  Some politicians do understand the root causes of it but they either keep quiet and pretended not to understand.  They have good reasons for behaving in such a manner, mostly because of their own political agenda.</p>
<p>The party that is &#8216;weak&#8217; is the party that has to resort to desperate tactics of terrorism because they do not have the military resources to conduct conventional warfare.  The terrorists are retaliating on behalf of those whom they perceived to have been persecuted.</p>
<p>Of course, Miss Lo was not the one retaliating, but she was at the wrong place at the wrong time and was part of the collateral damage of such warfare.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As for your claim that terrorists exist in Singapore, well then perhaps it’s time for you to show us how true is that other than using anti-government rhetoric.&quot;

If I tell you terrorist exist and show you evidence of it, I might as well be label as terrorist accomplice. 
You might want to visit some &quot;terrorist&quot;s in ISD if they allow you.

Of course, thing is not so simple, keeping silence won&#039;t solve terrorist problem, but irritate the terrorist by keep arrogantly saying that Singapore has the best security will likely to increase the chance of been attack, don&#039;t you think so ? 

What is there to prove to you when my answer is just the same as the authority ? Did you yourself not read the newspaper that  there are some possibilities of Mas Selamat lurking in Singapore ?  

&quot;I take it that you have never been taking the MRT for the past few years. If there’s no effort to increase awareness then I’m not sure what exactly do you mean by awareness.&quot;
You means MRT security ? You must be kidding me, aren&#039;t you ? Maybe you are the one who yet to take MRT for few years.  
Have you not see AngMohs with large baggage going through without screening ? You means AngMoh cannot be terrorist ? Have you not see people who dress formally as business-man and carrying big bag just pass through without screening.

So who kidding who ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As for your claim that terrorists exist in Singapore, well then perhaps it’s time for you to show us how true is that other than using anti-government rhetoric.&#8221;</p>
<p>If I tell you terrorist exist and show you evidence of it, I might as well be label as terrorist accomplice.<br />
You might want to visit some &#8220;terrorist&#8221;s in ISD if they allow you.</p>
<p>Of course, thing is not so simple, keeping silence won&#8217;t solve terrorist problem, but irritate the terrorist by keep arrogantly saying that Singapore has the best security will likely to increase the chance of been attack, don&#8217;t you think so ? </p>
<p>What is there to prove to you when my answer is just the same as the authority ? Did you yourself not read the newspaper that  there are some possibilities of Mas Selamat lurking in Singapore ?  </p>
<p>&#8220;I take it that you have never been taking the MRT for the past few years. If there’s no effort to increase awareness then I’m not sure what exactly do you mean by awareness.&#8221;<br />
You means MRT security ? You must be kidding me, aren&#8217;t you ? Maybe you are the one who yet to take MRT for few years.<br />
Have you not see AngMohs with large baggage going through without screening ? You means AngMoh cannot be terrorist ? Have you not see people who dress formally as business-man and carrying big bag just pass through without screening.</p>
<p>So who kidding who ?</p>
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		<title>By: kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>smallvoice585 quoted:  &quot;The main reason why “terrorism” is still rampant today is because most people, including political leaders, do not understand it.&quot;

Please do share what you understand about the terrorists and i will tell you later what I understand about them.

I am sure some political leaders UNDERSTAND why they react the way they react (the terrorists) but I don&#039;t think they know for sure HOW to deal with them.

&quot;And terrorist tactics are acts of war when the ‘weak’ retaliates against the ’strong’.&quot;

So, are you saying Ms Lo retaliated?  How did you come to that conclusion I am interested to know?

Bismarker quoted,&quot;Here you are taking the easy way out in understanding a complex situation, that if we keep our voices low, somehow they would not come to attack us...&quot;

I tell you Bismarker, if you know what the terrorists are up to, no matter whether we talk about it or not, if there is a chance for them to bomb EVERY nation, they would.  I am not trying to scare everyone but it seems most people are still in the dark.  Stay tuned...cos i will reveal later (after smallvoice585).

As for Mas Selamat, may be he was already tortured to death?  Or else how did they know so-and-so lied when he said he saw Mas Selamat?  And also, I CAN&#039;T see how security could be lax.  The stories don&#039;t match.  Does anyone smell a fish or is it just me being imaginary?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>smallvoice585 quoted:  &#8220;The main reason why “terrorism” is still rampant today is because most people, including political leaders, do not understand it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please do share what you understand about the terrorists and i will tell you later what I understand about them.</p>
<p>I am sure some political leaders UNDERSTAND why they react the way they react (the terrorists) but I don&#8217;t think they know for sure HOW to deal with them.</p>
<p>&#8220;And terrorist tactics are acts of war when the ‘weak’ retaliates against the ’strong’.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, are you saying Ms Lo retaliated?  How did you come to that conclusion I am interested to know?</p>
<p>Bismarker quoted,&#8221;Here you are taking the easy way out in understanding a complex situation, that if we keep our voices low, somehow they would not come to attack us&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I tell you Bismarker, if you know what the terrorists are up to, no matter whether we talk about it or not, if there is a chance for them to bomb EVERY nation, they would.  I am not trying to scare everyone but it seems most people are still in the dark.  Stay tuned&#8230;cos i will reveal later (after smallvoice585).</p>
<p>As for Mas Selamat, may be he was already tortured to death?  Or else how did they know so-and-so lied when he said he saw Mas Selamat?  And also, I CAN&#8217;T see how security could be lax.  The stories don&#8217;t match.  Does anyone smell a fish or is it just me being imaginary?</p>
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		<title>By: bismarker</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/singaporean-killed-in-mumbai/comment-page-1/#comment-37039</link>
		<dc:creator>bismarker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel,

I take it that you have never been taking the MRT for the past few years. If there&#039;s no effort to increase awareness then I&#039;m not sure what exactly do you mean by awareness. As for your claim that terrorists exist in Singapore, well then perhaps it&#039;s time for you to show us how true is that other than using anti-government rhetoric. 

And, i think you have missed my point regarding the &#039;Pakistani&#039; terrorist. It&#039;s reported that some of them carried maldives id, so perhaps at your suggestion we should extend screening of all FWs, since we know some Japanese have released sarim gas, and a host of other nationalities at one point of time have somehow engage in terrorists attacks. Oh yes, not forgetting Singaporeans too, perhaps routine screenings would do the job, since some of us might be undercover for terrorist units anyway. 

Here you are taking the easy way out in understanding a complex situation, that if we keep our voices low, somehow they would not come to attack us, and terrorists have always have to be the them, some other we arbitrarily blame for everything. Well, do take heed that it is practiced too in India at the moment, when it has always got to be those Pakistanis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel,</p>
<p>I take it that you have never been taking the MRT for the past few years. If there&#8217;s no effort to increase awareness then I&#8217;m not sure what exactly do you mean by awareness. As for your claim that terrorists exist in Singapore, well then perhaps it&#8217;s time for you to show us how true is that other than using anti-government rhetoric. </p>
<p>And, i think you have missed my point regarding the &#8216;Pakistani&#8217; terrorist. It&#8217;s reported that some of them carried maldives id, so perhaps at your suggestion we should extend screening of all FWs, since we know some Japanese have released sarim gas, and a host of other nationalities at one point of time have somehow engage in terrorists attacks. Oh yes, not forgetting Singaporeans too, perhaps routine screenings would do the job, since some of us might be undercover for terrorist units anyway. </p>
<p>Here you are taking the easy way out in understanding a complex situation, that if we keep our voices low, somehow they would not come to attack us, and terrorists have always have to be the them, some other we arbitrarily blame for everything. Well, do take heed that it is practiced too in India at the moment, when it has always got to be those Pakistanis.</p>
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		<title>By: smallvoice585</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/singaporean-killed-in-mumbai/comment-page-1/#comment-37034</link>
		<dc:creator>smallvoice585</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear kelly #42 and #43,

The main reason why &quot;terrorism&quot; is still rampant today is because most people, including political leaders, do not understand it.  They mistakenly feel that it is mainly the result of Islamic extremism, fundamentalism and militancy and in your own words &quot;extreme views of right and wrong&quot;, as if such characteristics arise spontaneously.

Everything has a reason, if only you care to think and understand about it. 

Perhaps, you misunderstood my post #41.  My mention of the political language of NEGOTIATION is not to recommend negotiation before, during or after a terrorist act. 

What I&#039;m alluding to is the root cause of human conflicts.  In the mutual competition for scarce resources and influence, the outcome is usually decided by the stronger dominating the weaker.  But the roles of &#039;strong&#039; and &#039;weak&#039; are fluid, and force is used to gain dominance.  Such mechanics constitute the politics of DOMINANCE.  And terrorist tactics are acts of war when the &#039;weak&#039; retaliates against the &#039;strong&#039;.

I&#039;m stating that the only way to curb terrorism is to minimize war, especially among parties of great disparity in strength.  That way, desperate tactics of terrorism will be less often employed.  But for that to happen, there need to have a paradigm shift in the mode of conflict resolution and resource competition.  And that this mode is the politics of NEGOTIATION, whereby the outcome is decided by mutual respect, understanding and co-operation. 

 Since Man has grown used to exerting his animal instinct and ignore his human instinct, things will remain the way it is and sadly, terrorism will continue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear kelly #42 and #43,</p>
<p>The main reason why &#8220;terrorism&#8221; is still rampant today is because most people, including political leaders, do not understand it.  They mistakenly feel that it is mainly the result of Islamic extremism, fundamentalism and militancy and in your own words &#8220;extreme views of right and wrong&#8221;, as if such characteristics arise spontaneously.</p>
<p>Everything has a reason, if only you care to think and understand about it. </p>
<p>Perhaps, you misunderstood my post #41.  My mention of the political language of NEGOTIATION is not to recommend negotiation before, during or after a terrorist act. </p>
<p>What I&#8217;m alluding to is the root cause of human conflicts.  In the mutual competition for scarce resources and influence, the outcome is usually decided by the stronger dominating the weaker.  But the roles of &#8216;strong&#8217; and &#8216;weak&#8217; are fluid, and force is used to gain dominance.  Such mechanics constitute the politics of DOMINANCE.  And terrorist tactics are acts of war when the &#8216;weak&#8217; retaliates against the &#8216;strong&#8217;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m stating that the only way to curb terrorism is to minimize war, especially among parties of great disparity in strength.  That way, desperate tactics of terrorism will be less often employed.  But for that to happen, there need to have a paradigm shift in the mode of conflict resolution and resource competition.  And that this mode is the politics of NEGOTIATION, whereby the outcome is decided by mutual respect, understanding and co-operation. </p>
<p> Since Man has grown used to exerting his animal instinct and ignore his human instinct, things will remain the way it is and sadly, terrorism will continue.</p>
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		<title>By: Tang Li</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/singaporean-killed-in-mumbai/comment-page-1/#comment-37026</link>
		<dc:creator>Tang Li</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms Lo&#039;s death is a tragedy - it&#039;s really sad that a young woman is cut down in her prime. 

However, I think this is a case of a young lady being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Singapore is really too insignificant for global terrorist. I mean in the war on terrorism, the international community only cares if Caucasians get killed - as is clearly visible by the difference between the way 9/11 is talked about and what goes on everyday in the Gaza strip. 

Caught Mas Selamat? Humm, that is going to be very interesting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms Lo&#8217;s death is a tragedy &#8211; it&#8217;s really sad that a young woman is cut down in her prime. </p>
<p>However, I think this is a case of a young lady being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Singapore is really too insignificant for global terrorist. I mean in the war on terrorism, the international community only cares if Caucasians get killed &#8211; as is clearly visible by the difference between the way 9/11 is talked about and what goes on everyday in the Gaza strip. </p>
<p>Caught Mas Selamat? Humm, that is going to be very interesting</p>
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		<title>By: jeflin</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/singaporean-killed-in-mumbai/comment-page-1/#comment-37010</link>
		<dc:creator>jeflin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feel very sad about this tragedy. This is our first casualty of a terrorist attack and being a close knit community, I am sure all of us are pained by the loss of a fellow Singaporean.

There is no point politicizing this issue. Terrorism can strike anytime, thus we should count our blessings if we return safely from overseas, while we tighten our security efforts at home. Everybody should be vigilant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feel very sad about this tragedy. This is our first casualty of a terrorist attack and being a close knit community, I am sure all of us are pained by the loss of a fellow Singaporean.</p>
<p>There is no point politicizing this issue. Terrorism can strike anytime, thus we should count our blessings if we return safely from overseas, while we tighten our security efforts at home. Everybody should be vigilant.</p>
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		<title>By: kelly</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/singaporean-killed-in-mumbai/comment-page-1/#comment-36990</link>
		<dc:creator>kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  They will target anywhere with lots of people - summits, exhibitions, popular concert performances.  Ms Lo (the victim) was in Mumbai for a summit.

P.P.S.  Okie....I am now going to &#039;show off&#039; how sad I am over Ms Lo&#039;s tragic death.  (Man, how is it that a simple expression like &quot;I condemn any acts of terrorism&quot; be seen as a show-off?  People, you (we) need to get yourself together.  &#039;Banded&#039; we will be stronger.  Remove chunks of wood like &quot;disharmony&quot; and the wood will break more easily.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  They will target anywhere with lots of people &#8211; summits, exhibitions, popular concert performances.  Ms Lo (the victim) was in Mumbai for a summit.</p>
<p>P.P.S.  Okie&#8230;.I am now going to &#8216;show off&#8217; how sad I am over Ms Lo&#8217;s tragic death.  (Man, how is it that a simple expression like &#8220;I condemn any acts of terrorism&#8221; be seen as a show-off?  People, you (we) need to get yourself together.  &#8216;Banded&#8217; we will be stronger.  Remove chunks of wood like &#8220;disharmony&#8221; and the wood will break more easily.)</p>
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