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		<title>By: Mizzi Gardenia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mizzi Gardenia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 21:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey great posts, keep them coming you are doing a great job with this blog, inspiring many newbies like me. can’t tell you how much I appreciate all you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey great posts, keep them coming you are doing a great job with this blog, inspiring many newbies like me. can’t tell you how much I appreciate all you do.</p>
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		<title>By: 253SA</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is such a thing as a Party Whip, and, as the name suggests, anyone who goes out of the party line will get his ass whipped, feathered, tarred and sent packing from Parliament.  Figuratively, of course.  Think of the embarassment, the loss of stature etc etc.  Worse still, they even start criticising your fashion sense.  If that happens, I&#039;m sure we won&#039;t see metrosexual Baey and manhunt Teo around.  Who wants that to happen to them?

(Although, I won&#039;t mind seeing someone spank the tight ass of LN and some of them hot mama female MPs.  Heck, I won&#039;t even mind seeing EN doing the mamba dance at her seat, hoo yeahhhh.....)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is such a thing as a Party Whip, and, as the name suggests, anyone who goes out of the party line will get his ass whipped, feathered, tarred and sent packing from Parliament.  Figuratively, of course.  Think of the embarassment, the loss of stature etc etc.  Worse still, they even start criticising your fashion sense.  If that happens, I&#8217;m sure we won&#8217;t see metrosexual Baey and manhunt Teo around.  Who wants that to happen to them?</p>
<p>(Although, I won&#8217;t mind seeing someone spank the tight ass of LN and some of them hot mama female MPs.  Heck, I won&#8217;t even mind seeing EN doing the mamba dance at her seat, hoo yeahhhh&#8230;..)</p>
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		<title>By: tiredsingaporean</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiredsingaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>69) Gilbert Goh Keow Wah on November 21st, 2008 5.46 pm
Actually I find that it is not difficult to explain how our representatives in Parliament are so silent:

Hi Gibert,
actually it is very simple to explain here.
all these pap mps are only there for show only,
they are not allow to speak anything except to follow orders from who we all know,
so much so that whenever 1 tries to talk something, it always got screwed so
they are afraid even to comment on anything for 1 reason that they will lost their fat pay check, bottomline, they are there only for 1 reason, i.e. paid by taxpayers monies to protect the 1party, not the country, of course not the citizens either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>69) Gilbert Goh Keow Wah on November 21st, 2008 5.46 pm<br />
Actually I find that it is not difficult to explain how our representatives in Parliament are so silent:</p>
<p>Hi Gibert,<br />
actually it is very simple to explain here.<br />
all these pap mps are only there for show only,<br />
they are not allow to speak anything except to follow orders from who we all know,<br />
so much so that whenever 1 tries to talk something, it always got screwed so<br />
they are afraid even to comment on anything for 1 reason that they will lost their fat pay check, bottomline, they are there only for 1 reason, i.e. paid by taxpayers monies to protect the 1party, not the country, of course not the citizens either.</p>
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		<title>By: Middle Wuoter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Middle Wuoter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If by sheer accident, 1 blog shows only 1 but different article from the MSM news paper, then is it true to say there is no need to pay and pay for it anymore?

Of course, this is mathematically possible but theoretical at best.

disclaimer: I am not suggesting people do this but just sharing a &#039;fear&#039; in my mind. I fear the MSM lose profit resulting in more expensive newpaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If by sheer accident, 1 blog shows only 1 but different article from the MSM news paper, then is it true to say there is no need to pay and pay for it anymore?</p>
<p>Of course, this is mathematically possible but theoretical at best.</p>
<p>disclaimer: I am not suggesting people do this but just sharing a &#8216;fear&#8217; in my mind. I fear the MSM lose profit resulting in more expensive newpaper.</p>
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		<title>By: patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zefly;

google &#039; My Singapore News&#039;(redbeans&#039; Blog) and he has a e-mail add  there.

I have got his help to pass my e-mail add to You or alternatively You can give your e-mail add to me.

To Readers of TOC, I do strongly recommend redbeans&#039;  My Singapore News and Lucky Tans&#039;  &#039;Diary of a Singaporean mind&#039;,  both Blogs are worthy reads.

patriot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zefly;</p>
<p>google &#8216; My Singapore News&#8217;(redbeans&#8217; Blog) and he has a e-mail add  there.</p>
<p>I have got his help to pass my e-mail add to You or alternatively You can give your e-mail add to me.</p>
<p>To Readers of TOC, I do strongly recommend redbeans&#8217;  My Singapore News and Lucky Tans&#8217;  &#8216;Diary of a Singaporean mind&#8217;,  both Blogs are worthy reads.</p>
<p>patriot</p>
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		<title>By: Zefly (aka Joshua Chiang)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zefly (aka Joshua Chiang)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>70) patriot

I&#039;d love to. How ah? Who is redbean? Does he know who patriot is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>70) patriot</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to. How ah? Who is redbean? Does he know who patriot is?</p>
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		<title>By: patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Readers;

me feels that the young Singaporeans today are the Hopes of Singapore.

My generation(me born 1951) and older are less educated, more conforming(Confucius indoctrinated lots?) and are old now. Yes, I do detect that there are some in Cyberspace doing their best to better society. Kudos to them and to me as well?

To: Zefly;

me like to have your contact and if You are reciprocal, please leave your contact with redbean at My Singapore News(redbean Blog) or alternatively, get my e-mail from him(through his e-mail at his Blog).

Like to say to the increasing number of younger Singaporeans in the Social Political Blogoland that You(all) give me much comfort. I am draw to the screen mainly because You seem to be able to agree with people of my generation. It is indeed consoling, jiayou! Bersama maju!!(Malay Language) Rakyat Singapura!

patriot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Readers;</p>
<p>me feels that the young Singaporeans today are the Hopes of Singapore.</p>
<p>My generation(me born 1951) and older are less educated, more conforming(Confucius indoctrinated lots?) and are old now. Yes, I do detect that there are some in Cyberspace doing their best to better society. Kudos to them and to me as well?</p>
<p>To: Zefly;</p>
<p>me like to have your contact and if You are reciprocal, please leave your contact with redbean at My Singapore News(redbean Blog) or alternatively, get my e-mail from him(through his e-mail at his Blog).</p>
<p>Like to say to the increasing number of younger Singaporeans in the Social Political Blogoland that You(all) give me much comfort. I am draw to the screen mainly because You seem to be able to agree with people of my generation. It is indeed consoling, jiayou! Bersama maju!!(Malay Language) Rakyat Singapura!</p>
<p>patriot</p>
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		<title>By: Gilbert Goh Keow Wah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gilbert Goh Keow Wah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually  I find that it is not difficult to explain how our representatives in Parliament are so silent:

1. They are elite - the best brains and talents. Do you think that they will be able to understand the ground well? Most are even scholars living in private houses and may not even have step into a HDB flat before to live in. Connection is something that they will find hard to do especially with the poor and uneducated. Many may not even speak dialects if they are young.

2. They are gagged - one feels that most MPs do not have the freedom to talk in public. Maybe there are some who spoke before and got hammered by the top. In Parliament, you can tell the few who are passionate - Lily, Amy, Halimah. The rest are simply uninterested or toe the line like good puppies.

3. They simply do not feel for the issues - many are middle income or even high income earners. They have live a life of luxury all their life and could not identify with the ground people. They tried but could not as experientially it is beyond them. They may have try their best but it takes alot out of a person to feel and know how another lives and feels.

4. They just do their time - one gets the feeling that some MPs just want to serve one term and move on to get the credentials. During the last election, many one-term MPs moved on and I always wondered why. Were they asked to go or did they left voluntarily? As many as ten one-term MPs did not stand for the 2006 GE.

5. They do not know their aim and mission - serving as MP does take alot of personal motivation and if one is not inspired to serve it is a tough call. Many MPs I see came in by the GRC backdoor and some did not even have the chance to compete for votes. How can they felt inspired and fired up for the people that he serves if no one has the chance to vote him in? It&#039;s a hollow victory if you asked me.

6. They are bureacrats and not motivators - one can see that our MPs are mostly talented becraucratic individuals who helm MNCs and big corporation. Many only have the few months of grassroad experience before they are thrown into the fiery fire. Most are then groom to work behind doors than on the ground. Some who make it to be Ministers of State definitely spend more time indoors than outdoors. They thus lack the ground level aspirations that politicians need to have to function well enough

As Singapore progresses in the midst of a financial crisis, we need change now and we need it badly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually  I find that it is not difficult to explain how our representatives in Parliament are so silent:</p>
<p>1. They are elite &#8211; the best brains and talents. Do you think that they will be able to understand the ground well? Most are even scholars living in private houses and may not even have step into a HDB flat before to live in. Connection is something that they will find hard to do especially with the poor and uneducated. Many may not even speak dialects if they are young.</p>
<p>2. They are gagged &#8211; one feels that most MPs do not have the freedom to talk in public. Maybe there are some who spoke before and got hammered by the top. In Parliament, you can tell the few who are passionate &#8211; Lily, Amy, Halimah. The rest are simply uninterested or toe the line like good puppies.</p>
<p>3. They simply do not feel for the issues &#8211; many are middle income or even high income earners. They have live a life of luxury all their life and could not identify with the ground people. They tried but could not as experientially it is beyond them. They may have try their best but it takes alot out of a person to feel and know how another lives and feels.</p>
<p>4. They just do their time &#8211; one gets the feeling that some MPs just want to serve one term and move on to get the credentials. During the last election, many one-term MPs moved on and I always wondered why. Were they asked to go or did they left voluntarily? As many as ten one-term MPs did not stand for the 2006 GE.</p>
<p>5. They do not know their aim and mission &#8211; serving as MP does take alot of personal motivation and if one is not inspired to serve it is a tough call. Many MPs I see came in by the GRC backdoor and some did not even have the chance to compete for votes. How can they felt inspired and fired up for the people that he serves if no one has the chance to vote him in? It&#8217;s a hollow victory if you asked me.</p>
<p>6. They are bureacrats and not motivators &#8211; one can see that our MPs are mostly talented becraucratic individuals who helm MNCs and big corporation. Many only have the few months of grassroad experience before they are thrown into the fiery fire. Most are then groom to work behind doors than on the ground. Some who make it to be Ministers of State definitely spend more time indoors than outdoors. They thus lack the ground level aspirations that politicians need to have to function well enough</p>
<p>As Singapore progresses in the midst of a financial crisis, we need change now and we need it badly.</p>
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		<title>By: gemami</title>
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		<dc:creator>gemami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi 253SA,

Thanks for the BKT tip, will source it out when there.

I feel differently about the new generation. To me they bring excitement and anxiety, all at once. A better description would be anxiously excited, yah that&#039;s it. I love mystery man!. When things are mysterious, it can mean one of two things. To the left or to the right, win or lose, happy or sad. Better than knowing you have already lost for sure. Mystery to me is optimism.

Don&#039;t fret too much about them knowing Ronaldo more than Jessica. Don&#039;t know about you but I knew Fandi Ahmad more than I knew Seet Ai Mee during my time.

When things get heated and the smoke starts to appear, they won&#039;t be able to miss it. 

Eunice Olsen, what can I say about her. Omph!
We&#039;ll wait and see if she drops in to TOC one of these days.

GE2009 - in all probability, but exactly when in 2009? I feel it has a lot to do with these two weeks or so. Already the ST online is preaching that economically, things are beginning to simmer down and already there are calls for Singaporeans to take heart that the worst is over. 

There will be much more of such doctrines in the coming days and depending on how Singaporeans take to these, it will determine if the election will be earlier or later - but definitely 2009 is going to be election year.

I&#039;ll be out of town from tomorrow and I&#039;ll see if I can catch the bkt before I leave. If not, it&#039;ll have to wait for me to return. Hungry already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi 253SA,</p>
<p>Thanks for the BKT tip, will source it out when there.</p>
<p>I feel differently about the new generation. To me they bring excitement and anxiety, all at once. A better description would be anxiously excited, yah that&#8217;s it. I love mystery man!. When things are mysterious, it can mean one of two things. To the left or to the right, win or lose, happy or sad. Better than knowing you have already lost for sure. Mystery to me is optimism.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t fret too much about them knowing Ronaldo more than Jessica. Don&#8217;t know about you but I knew Fandi Ahmad more than I knew Seet Ai Mee during my time.</p>
<p>When things get heated and the smoke starts to appear, they won&#8217;t be able to miss it. </p>
<p>Eunice Olsen, what can I say about her. Omph!<br />
We&#8217;ll wait and see if she drops in to TOC one of these days.</p>
<p>GE2009 &#8211; in all probability, but exactly when in 2009? I feel it has a lot to do with these two weeks or so. Already the ST online is preaching that economically, things are beginning to simmer down and already there are calls for Singaporeans to take heart that the worst is over. </p>
<p>There will be much more of such doctrines in the coming days and depending on how Singaporeans take to these, it will determine if the election will be earlier or later &#8211; but definitely 2009 is going to be election year.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be out of town from tomorrow and I&#8217;ll see if I can catch the bkt before I leave. If not, it&#8217;ll have to wait for me to return. Hungry already.</p>
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		<title>By: Tew N S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tew N S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Lily Neo only, other pap MPs can&#039;t perform well, some are self centre, quite selfish.</description>
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		<title>By: 253SA</title>
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		<dc:creator>253SA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gemami

If you&#039;re ever at Hong Lim market, I&#039;d recommend the bak kut teh at the corner of the first level.  Damn good stuff :)

Yes, I remember that dramatic night in 1997.  Who could forget?  It&#039;s the stuff of legends.  Cheng San 1997 was our Florida 2000, when everything was finely balanced.  If AG was POTUS instead of GWB, it will be a very different America.  Heck, we might even have escaped the financial mess we&#039;re in.  Likewise, if the unthinkable happened in 1997, we would be living in a very different Singapore.  Call me drama hick, but that was the tipping point of Singapore&#039;s history, and no one can convince me otherwise.  If JBJ had entered Parliament by the front door, he would have ushered in a whole new era of Singapore politics.  After Cheng San, any form of resistance was ruthlessly swept away.  As GWB likes to say &quot;you&#039;re either with us, or against us&quot;.

The new generation bring me hope and fear.  Hope bec they have an unprecedented access to information and can make better judgement, but also fear bec more than ever, they are spending more and more time on those trivial matters.  The young working adults in my office can differentiate the two Ronaldos, but can&#039;t identify Jessica Tan and Josephine Teo.  However, the guys know Eunice Olsen, but all they are interested is her phone number.

Sidetrack a little, what do you reckon the chances of a snap election in 2009?  The last time they did it was in 2001, immediately after 9/11.  Now with everyone in crisis mode, they might just want to replay it.

One more reminder : bak kut teh :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gemami</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re ever at Hong Lim market, I&#8217;d recommend the bak kut teh at the corner of the first level.  Damn good stuff :)</p>
<p>Yes, I remember that dramatic night in 1997.  Who could forget?  It&#8217;s the stuff of legends.  Cheng San 1997 was our Florida 2000, when everything was finely balanced.  If AG was POTUS instead of GWB, it will be a very different America.  Heck, we might even have escaped the financial mess we&#8217;re in.  Likewise, if the unthinkable happened in 1997, we would be living in a very different Singapore.  Call me drama hick, but that was the tipping point of Singapore&#8217;s history, and no one can convince me otherwise.  If JBJ had entered Parliament by the front door, he would have ushered in a whole new era of Singapore politics.  After Cheng San, any form of resistance was ruthlessly swept away.  As GWB likes to say &#8220;you&#8217;re either with us, or against us&#8221;.</p>
<p>The new generation bring me hope and fear.  Hope bec they have an unprecedented access to information and can make better judgement, but also fear bec more than ever, they are spending more and more time on those trivial matters.  The young working adults in my office can differentiate the two Ronaldos, but can&#8217;t identify Jessica Tan and Josephine Teo.  However, the guys know Eunice Olsen, but all they are interested is her phone number.</p>
<p>Sidetrack a little, what do you reckon the chances of a snap election in 2009?  The last time they did it was in 2001, immediately after 9/11.  Now with everyone in crisis mode, they might just want to replay it.</p>
<p>One more reminder : bak kut teh :)</p>
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		<title>By: gemami</title>
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		<dc:creator>gemami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>64) 253SA 

Hi, Hope you have a good lunch.

God to be a realist. Realists are very adaptable.

One thing the opposition did not take away with them when GCT &lt;i&gt;was whipped&lt;/i&gt; in &#039;91 was that the pull of the party brand was stronger than the pull of the individuals. 

At that time &#039;Chiam See Tong&#039; was the party brand more than SDP was. CST got both LHD and Cheo Chai Chen together with himself into parliament because of himself. The electorate could relate to him and because of that they were willing to give his party candidates the chance to represent them in parliament. I know, I attended every one of his rallies.

Cheng San remains a political question. If you could take some time to visit Robert Ho&#039;s blog, you might get some juicy information there. I believe it was fixed too. I remembered waiting for the results till the wee hours of the morning. 

My firends and I were gathered together watching the results unfold from our TV screen and we just kept on waiting for Cheng San until we got fedup and decided to drive down to see what was happening. Whilst there, there were rumours that there were additional unsealed ballot boxes being brought in after the votes were counted the first time round. A recount ensued and all were waiting with bated breath. 

Alas, because of foul play, the PAP won by the narrowest of margins.

After that election, if you can recall, the relentless destruction of all heavyweight opposition politcians came out in full swing with the Chief Whitie leading the line.

The rest became history.

We now have to re-write a new set of history with a new generation. This has to happen and we must learn from our previous mistakes if not all these struggles will come to nothing. 

Singapore will change. 

Believe it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>64) 253SA </p>
<p>Hi, Hope you have a good lunch.</p>
<p>God to be a realist. Realists are very adaptable.</p>
<p>One thing the opposition did not take away with them when GCT <i>was whipped</i> in &#8217;91 was that the pull of the party brand was stronger than the pull of the individuals. </p>
<p>At that time &#8216;Chiam See Tong&#8217; was the party brand more than SDP was. CST got both LHD and Cheo Chai Chen together with himself into parliament because of himself. The electorate could relate to him and because of that they were willing to give his party candidates the chance to represent them in parliament. I know, I attended every one of his rallies.</p>
<p>Cheng San remains a political question. If you could take some time to visit Robert Ho&#8217;s blog, you might get some juicy information there. I believe it was fixed too. I remembered waiting for the results till the wee hours of the morning. </p>
<p>My firends and I were gathered together watching the results unfold from our TV screen and we just kept on waiting for Cheng San until we got fedup and decided to drive down to see what was happening. Whilst there, there were rumours that there were additional unsealed ballot boxes being brought in after the votes were counted the first time round. A recount ensued and all were waiting with bated breath. </p>
<p>Alas, because of foul play, the PAP won by the narrowest of margins.</p>
<p>After that election, if you can recall, the relentless destruction of all heavyweight opposition politcians came out in full swing with the Chief Whitie leading the line.</p>
<p>The rest became history.</p>
<p>We now have to re-write a new set of history with a new generation. This has to happen and we must learn from our previous mistakes if not all these struggles will come to nothing. </p>
<p>Singapore will change. </p>
<p>Believe it!</p>
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		<title>By: 253SA</title>
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		<dc:creator>253SA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gemami

A quick word before I head off for lunch.

Your comments are spot-on.

After going thru&#039; trials and tribulations of life, I&#039;m a realist, and I keep my optimism in check, just in case.  Anyway, that&#039;s me, the troll under the bridge.

Back in 1991 when GCT got his ass whipped, I was genuinely euphoric that politics here have turned a corner.  Alas, it wasn&#039;t meant to be.  LHD and the Neo guy (definitely not Matrix!) performed dismally.  The LHD who spoke in Parliament was so cowardly compared to the LHD who spoke so passionately at the rallies.  Was this the same guy who kicked a Minister&#039;s ass out of BB and Parliament?  I couldn&#039;t believe it.  Then Cheng San in 1997, also came real close.  At the rallies by JBJ and the Tang guy, man, they had the crowd eating out of their every word.  And I&#039;m talking about rock concert type of attendance, full house, with some climbing on the roof of their cars.  Again, so near, yet so far. 

Fast forward to the present, and I&#039;d say this : the electorate is better educated and more inquiring.  People are upset and they want answers, not plain poppycock.  A new generation of electorate is ready.  But with the GRC system in place, I just wonder if they&#039;ll ever have the chance to do so.  Me?  I don&#039;t even know how a ballot paper looks like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gemami</p>
<p>A quick word before I head off for lunch.</p>
<p>Your comments are spot-on.</p>
<p>After going thru&#8217; trials and tribulations of life, I&#8217;m a realist, and I keep my optimism in check, just in case.  Anyway, that&#8217;s me, the troll under the bridge.</p>
<p>Back in 1991 when GCT got his ass whipped, I was genuinely euphoric that politics here have turned a corner.  Alas, it wasn&#8217;t meant to be.  LHD and the Neo guy (definitely not Matrix!) performed dismally.  The LHD who spoke in Parliament was so cowardly compared to the LHD who spoke so passionately at the rallies.  Was this the same guy who kicked a Minister&#8217;s ass out of BB and Parliament?  I couldn&#8217;t believe it.  Then Cheng San in 1997, also came real close.  At the rallies by JBJ and the Tang guy, man, they had the crowd eating out of their every word.  And I&#8217;m talking about rock concert type of attendance, full house, with some climbing on the roof of their cars.  Again, so near, yet so far. </p>
<p>Fast forward to the present, and I&#8217;d say this : the electorate is better educated and more inquiring.  People are upset and they want answers, not plain poppycock.  A new generation of electorate is ready.  But with the GRC system in place, I just wonder if they&#8217;ll ever have the chance to do so.  Me?  I don&#8217;t even know how a ballot paper looks like.</p>
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		<title>By: gemami</title>
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		<dc:creator>gemami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>62) 253SA 

I made the Lee comment with no pun intended. My message is that this particular family who call themselves LEE, have brought disgrace to the good name of Lee. Hope this is clearer and not affensive to the Lees out there.

You are right about the England team comparison to a certain degree. Mind you, the England teams, even though have often been over-hyped, have had real opponents to compete with. Once in a while it did beat some good opponents and that&#039;s why the people support them like crazy. Because there is hope that the unthinkable could happen.

The fact about Singapore&#039;s electorate is a wee bit different. They think theirs is the winning team; no, pardon me; they think they have the team that holds the world cup already. Why? Because they do not know what the world cup is. They have never seen it, only heard of it, and they believe every word these con-artistes sell to them - that they have the world cup in their hands, that they are the world champions. So they support them blindly.

I prefer now to think that Singaporeans are beginning to see that they have been conned and are beginning to ask questions, seeing that others are performing better, reacting quicker and most importantly, treasuring the support of their supporters. 

Let us not kill this hope but have a little more faith in Singaporeans that with better information dissemination, they will see the real team for all that it is worth -Garbage. A new dawn awaits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>62) 253SA </p>
<p>I made the Lee comment with no pun intended. My message is that this particular family who call themselves LEE, have brought disgrace to the good name of Lee. Hope this is clearer and not affensive to the Lees out there.</p>
<p>You are right about the England team comparison to a certain degree. Mind you, the England teams, even though have often been over-hyped, have had real opponents to compete with. Once in a while it did beat some good opponents and that&#8217;s why the people support them like crazy. Because there is hope that the unthinkable could happen.</p>
<p>The fact about Singapore&#8217;s electorate is a wee bit different. They think theirs is the winning team; no, pardon me; they think they have the team that holds the world cup already. Why? Because they do not know what the world cup is. They have never seen it, only heard of it, and they believe every word these con-artistes sell to them &#8211; that they have the world cup in their hands, that they are the world champions. So they support them blindly.</p>
<p>I prefer now to think that Singaporeans are beginning to see that they have been conned and are beginning to ask questions, seeing that others are performing better, reacting quicker and most importantly, treasuring the support of their supporters. </p>
<p>Let us not kill this hope but have a little more faith in Singaporeans that with better information dissemination, they will see the real team for all that it is worth -Garbage. A new dawn awaits.</p>
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		<title>By: 253SA</title>
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		<dc:creator>253SA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gemami

Agree with your comments generally, except for the Lee part.  Some of my best friends are called Lees, so I&#039;ll hesitate to whack them for this association.  And besides, I&#039;d estimate 30% of Chinese Singaporeans are Lees, so you won&#039;t want to offend them, would you?

In entry I made in another section, I compared the Singapore electorate to the long suffering but devoted England football supporters.  No matter how &quot;sheety&quot; the team performs, no matter how they have won nothing over the last 40 years, no matter how the players whine about their already bloated salaries, no matter how exhorbitant the ticket price, the England supporter will still sell their house and dump his family just to watch the team play.  Everytime.  Amazing isn&#039;t it?  It&#039;s almost like enjoying the sensation of self-induced pain.

Now, doesn&#039;t this masochism strike you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gemami</p>
<p>Agree with your comments generally, except for the Lee part.  Some of my best friends are called Lees, so I&#8217;ll hesitate to whack them for this association.  And besides, I&#8217;d estimate 30% of Chinese Singaporeans are Lees, so you won&#8217;t want to offend them, would you?</p>
<p>In entry I made in another section, I compared the Singapore electorate to the long suffering but devoted England football supporters.  No matter how &#8220;sheety&#8221; the team performs, no matter how they have won nothing over the last 40 years, no matter how the players whine about their already bloated salaries, no matter how exhorbitant the ticket price, the England supporter will still sell their house and dump his family just to watch the team play.  Everytime.  Amazing isn&#8217;t it?  It&#8217;s almost like enjoying the sensation of self-induced pain.</p>
<p>Now, doesn&#8217;t this masochism strike you?</p>
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		<title>By: gemami</title>
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		<dc:creator>gemami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>60) 253SA 

If ever there is a rating system like POTUS here in Singapore, I am sure the readings will shock most of us if it is taken now.

George Bush did beat John Kerry hands down. Barrack Obama also beat John McCain hands down. The situation here is not because the people accepted George Bush Or Barrack Obama. It is because their opponents are named JOHN.

Lesson for Singapore, I think it has reached a point that the name LEE is as bad as JOHN. So we do have hope don&#039;t we?

Apologies to all the normal Lees out there. Maybe you want to take out a class act against the LEE regime for smearing the good name of Lee. Go ahead with my blessings.

I hope I live to see the day I can salute my fellow Singaporeans for having the guts to decide for change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>60) 253SA </p>
<p>If ever there is a rating system like POTUS here in Singapore, I am sure the readings will shock most of us if it is taken now.</p>
<p>George Bush did beat John Kerry hands down. Barrack Obama also beat John McCain hands down. The situation here is not because the people accepted George Bush Or Barrack Obama. It is because their opponents are named JOHN.</p>
<p>Lesson for Singapore, I think it has reached a point that the name LEE is as bad as JOHN. So we do have hope don&#8217;t we?</p>
<p>Apologies to all the normal Lees out there. Maybe you want to take out a class act against the LEE regime for smearing the good name of Lee. Go ahead with my blessings.</p>
<p>I hope I live to see the day I can salute my fellow Singaporeans for having the guts to decide for change.</p>
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		<title>By: 253SA</title>
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		<dc:creator>253SA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How to vote them out when the majority don&#039;t want to change their mindset?

George W Bush had the lowest ever approval rating as POTUS in 2004.  He blatantly lied to the country abt Saddam Hussein, didn&#039;r believe in climate change etc etc, and YET, he beat John Kerry hands down.  Yeah, I know, its a different system from us, but the underlying thing is that despite all the &quot;sheet&quot; he and his party gave to the country, the majority preferred somebody they knew rather than take a chance with someone else.

Which is why I can only salute the American electorate for voting in Barack Obama and a Democratic majority because they are just so sick of the bloody Republicans.  The American electorate took a chance and risked their future of the next four years with someone new.  Now that is CHANGE.

And I&#039;m afraid we in Singapore are adverse to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to vote them out when the majority don&#8217;t want to change their mindset?</p>
<p>George W Bush had the lowest ever approval rating as POTUS in 2004.  He blatantly lied to the country abt Saddam Hussein, didn&#8217;r believe in climate change etc etc, and YET, he beat John Kerry hands down.  Yeah, I know, its a different system from us, but the underlying thing is that despite all the &#8220;sheet&#8221; he and his party gave to the country, the majority preferred somebody they knew rather than take a chance with someone else.</p>
<p>Which is why I can only salute the American electorate for voting in Barack Obama and a Democratic majority because they are just so sick of the bloody Republicans.  The American electorate took a chance and risked their future of the next four years with someone new.  Now that is CHANGE.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m afraid we in Singapore are adverse to it.</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
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		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i haven&#039;t got enough of PAP........please DON&#039;T vote them out of my life...

1. i waiting for my friend in detention right now. with PAP and Wong Kan Seng in there, i know he has hope and the hope is there for him to escape. 
2. I waiting to short whatever shares temasek holdings is buying. Whatever they touch turns bad, I am very sure that if i shorted everything I would be a rich man now.
3. I can&#039;t wait for my town councils to increase S&amp;C charges. I think they are way too low as of now. 
4. I need more FT to serve me when I visit fast-food restaurants and normal restaurants. Local waiters just don&#039;t cut it.
5. Oh and I waiting for a new dorm for FT to be built in my area. Every area should have one. I cannot wait for my area&#039;s turn. 

So please cast your vote properly. vote ONLY PAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i haven&#8217;t got enough of PAP&#8230;&#8230;..please DON&#8217;T vote them out of my life&#8230;</p>
<p>1. i waiting for my friend in detention right now. with PAP and Wong Kan Seng in there, i know he has hope and the hope is there for him to escape.<br />
2. I waiting to short whatever shares temasek holdings is buying. Whatever they touch turns bad, I am very sure that if i shorted everything I would be a rich man now.<br />
3. I can&#8217;t wait for my town councils to increase S&amp;C charges. I think they are way too low as of now.<br />
4. I need more FT to serve me when I visit fast-food restaurants and normal restaurants. Local waiters just don&#8217;t cut it.<br />
5. Oh and I waiting for a new dorm for FT to be built in my area. Every area should have one. I cannot wait for my area&#8217;s turn. </p>
<p>So please cast your vote properly. vote ONLY PAP.</p>
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		<title>By: gemami</title>
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		<dc:creator>gemami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup!

Do we want to continue our relationship with a bunch of incompetent Nincompoops whose only job is to tell lies and present them as truth?

Worse, lately they have adopted a new system, an ecologically friendly system, no need to waste ink and paper and fuel to argue their case. It&#039;s free, convenient and hassle-free. 

It&#039;s called: &lt;b&gt;Sweep everything under the carpet and keep quiet.&lt;/b&gt;

Let&#039;s take responsibility indeed. Make your decision now. . .

It&#039;s also free and ecologically friendly and very convenient. No need to think anymore. No need to sweat over it anymore. Pass all these over to the people who should be doing the real worrying and sweating.

Let us not choose whether to vote for this or that party.

Let us decide to &lt;b&gt;VOTE THE PAP OUT OF OUR LIVES!&lt;/b&gt;.

Let us repeat this mantra until it sticks to our skins, our minds and our souls.

Repeat it to others around you and get them to repeat it after you and to others still. We have had enough!

&lt;b&gt;VOTE THE PAP OUT OF OUR LIVES!&lt;/b&gt;.
&lt;b&gt;VOTE THE PAP OUT OF OUR LIVES!&lt;/b&gt;.
&lt;b&gt;VOTE THE PAP OUT OF OUR LIVES!&lt;/b&gt;.
&lt;b&gt;VOTE THE PAP OUT OF OUR LIVES!&lt;/b&gt;.
&lt;b&gt;VOTE THE PAP OUT OF OUR LIVES!&lt;/b&gt;.
&lt;b&gt;VOTE THE PAP OUT OF OUR LIVES!&lt;/b&gt;.
&lt;b&gt;VOTE THE PAP OUT OF OUR LIVES!&lt;/b&gt;.
&lt;b&gt;VOTE THE PAP OUT OF OUR LIVES!&lt;/b&gt;..........................</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup!</p>
<p>Do we want to continue our relationship with a bunch of incompetent Nincompoops whose only job is to tell lies and present them as truth?</p>
<p>Worse, lately they have adopted a new system, an ecologically friendly system, no need to waste ink and paper and fuel to argue their case. It&#8217;s free, convenient and hassle-free. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s called: <b>Sweep everything under the carpet and keep quiet.</b></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take responsibility indeed. Make your decision now. . .</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also free and ecologically friendly and very convenient. No need to think anymore. No need to sweat over it anymore. Pass all these over to the people who should be doing the real worrying and sweating.</p>
<p>Let us not choose whether to vote for this or that party.</p>
<p>Let us decide to <b>VOTE THE PAP OUT OF OUR LIVES!</b>.</p>
<p>Let us repeat this mantra until it sticks to our skins, our minds and our souls.</p>
<p>Repeat it to others around you and get them to repeat it after you and to others still. We have had enough!</p>
<p><b>VOTE THE PAP OUT OF OUR LIVES!</b>.<br />
<b>VOTE THE PAP OUT OF OUR LIVES!</b>.<br />
<b>VOTE THE PAP OUT OF OUR LIVES!</b>.<br />
<b>VOTE THE PAP OUT OF OUR LIVES!</b>.<br />
<b>VOTE THE PAP OUT OF OUR LIVES!</b>.<br />
<b>VOTE THE PAP OUT OF OUR LIVES!</b>.<br />
<b>VOTE THE PAP OUT OF OUR LIVES!</b>.<br />
<b>VOTE THE PAP OUT OF OUR LIVES!</b>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Gilbert Goh Keow Wah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gilbert Goh Keow Wah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see the merry-go-round here gerading our govt:

1. Minibonds crisis:

a. Blame yourselves as you signed on the dotted lines. High risk equals high gain.  Blame yourself as you want higher returns.

b. Blame the FIs and banks as they are the ones selling the products. Such risky products should not be sold in the first place.

c. Blame the RMs as they mis sold unethically.

d. Blame MAS as they allowed such risky products to be sold in the first place

2. Town Councils Investment:

a. Blame the TCs as they anyhow invest. Residents should check with their TCs on how they invest the money.

b. Blame the govt as they allow TCs to invest up to 35% of their sinking funds into risky investment.

c. Blame the people for they did not check with their TCs so they anyhow invest.

d. Blame the MPs as they are supposed to the TCs&#039; advisors but did nothing.

3.Tariff Increase 21%:

a. Blame the telcos as they are the ones controlling the price of the power cost

b. Blame the agent Singapore Power as they are ones that bill us and yet collect so much of the cut in the tariff cost.

c. Blame the oil price as this jerk up the cost of the power

d. Blame the govt as they allow such increase to take place despite the high cost of living

e. Blame the people as they did not really protest at such high increase in tariff 

4. One party Governance

a. Blame the party for allowing such governance to be in place as they consolidated their power base

b. Blame the opposition for being so helpless and weak

c. Blame the people for not  voting for the opposition parties.

5. Foreign Talents

a. Blame the govt for allowing so many FTs into the country to compete for jobs

b. Blame the companies for wanting to  employ FTs for they are cheap and hardworking

c. Blame the people for being so untalented and unable to compete for jobs fairly. They also are deemed choosy and too expensive to hire.

d. Blame the economy for being so advanced that our people could not cope with their limited skills. The IRs could only employ less than 40% of our local workers there. The rest goes to FTs.

5. Baby Blues

a. Blame the govt for not giving out too many baby bonuses

b. Blame the cost of living for families not giving birth to more babies

c, Blame the women who marry too late and can&#039;t give birth easily

d. Blame each other when couples are too tired to procreate aftre spending a hard day at work.

The list goes on and our country will only improve if each party takes some responsibility for our action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see the merry-go-round here gerading our govt:</p>
<p>1. Minibonds crisis:</p>
<p>a. Blame yourselves as you signed on the dotted lines. High risk equals high gain.  Blame yourself as you want higher returns.</p>
<p>b. Blame the FIs and banks as they are the ones selling the products. Such risky products should not be sold in the first place.</p>
<p>c. Blame the RMs as they mis sold unethically.</p>
<p>d. Blame MAS as they allowed such risky products to be sold in the first place</p>
<p>2. Town Councils Investment:</p>
<p>a. Blame the TCs as they anyhow invest. Residents should check with their TCs on how they invest the money.</p>
<p>b. Blame the govt as they allow TCs to invest up to 35% of their sinking funds into risky investment.</p>
<p>c. Blame the people for they did not check with their TCs so they anyhow invest.</p>
<p>d. Blame the MPs as they are supposed to the TCs&#8217; advisors but did nothing.</p>
<p>3.Tariff Increase 21%:</p>
<p>a. Blame the telcos as they are the ones controlling the price of the power cost</p>
<p>b. Blame the agent Singapore Power as they are ones that bill us and yet collect so much of the cut in the tariff cost.</p>
<p>c. Blame the oil price as this jerk up the cost of the power</p>
<p>d. Blame the govt as they allow such increase to take place despite the high cost of living</p>
<p>e. Blame the people as they did not really protest at such high increase in tariff </p>
<p>4. One party Governance</p>
<p>a. Blame the party for allowing such governance to be in place as they consolidated their power base</p>
<p>b. Blame the opposition for being so helpless and weak</p>
<p>c. Blame the people for not  voting for the opposition parties.</p>
<p>5. Foreign Talents</p>
<p>a. Blame the govt for allowing so many FTs into the country to compete for jobs</p>
<p>b. Blame the companies for wanting to  employ FTs for they are cheap and hardworking</p>
<p>c. Blame the people for being so untalented and unable to compete for jobs fairly. They also are deemed choosy and too expensive to hire.</p>
<p>d. Blame the economy for being so advanced that our people could not cope with their limited skills. The IRs could only employ less than 40% of our local workers there. The rest goes to FTs.</p>
<p>5. Baby Blues</p>
<p>a. Blame the govt for not giving out too many baby bonuses</p>
<p>b. Blame the cost of living for families not giving birth to more babies</p>
<p>c, Blame the women who marry too late and can&#8217;t give birth easily</p>
<p>d. Blame each other when couples are too tired to procreate aftre spending a hard day at work.</p>
<p>The list goes on and our country will only improve if each party takes some responsibility for our action.</p>
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