Comments on: Third ministers’ pay hike in two years – Staying together or moving ahead? http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/third-ministers%e2%80%99-pay-hike-in-two-years-%e2%80%93-staying-together-or-moving-ahead/ Singapore's #1 Socio-Political Site Fri, 25 May 2012 04:31:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: doppelganger http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/third-ministers%e2%80%99-pay-hike-in-two-years-%e2%80%93-staying-together-or-moving-ahead/comment-page-2/#comment-212345 doppelganger Thu, 09 Jun 2011 15:12:09 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=3290#comment-212345 First order of business is to get the Ministerial salaries scaled down several orders of magnitude to levels like any other country..Otherwise we would have to account to future generations of Singaporeans as to how we have been fooled so badly: to believe that the Singapore Cabinet is so special that they have to be paid several fold more than their counterparts in other developed countries, even world powers.Because they wont be offered lucrative speaking appointments or book royalties, said the PM. Should we compensate them for their mediocrity on the World stage? The other oft repeated argument by the Ruling Party’s spokesperson for paying them over the moon is that it would prevent them from corruption. I think this must be the real reason, an innate greedy predisposition. If a man or woman is paid a fair wage, even at the Ministerial level, s/he will be normal. If overpaid, and overpaid so grossly, madness will overtake her/him. The things that happened to us especially the last five years is a phantasmagoria of a mad screwing of the populace to get more and more money, at all costs, by any means. Look at how one million foreigners gain work in Singapore during the last five years and how more than a hundred thousand people are made citizen each year. The mad dogs are bent on erasing the Singaporean from the face of the Earth.If we miss this window of opportunity to make them less mad for money, we will have to fight them like in Egypt, Tunisia and Libya five years down the road. First order of business is to get the Ministerial salaries scaled down several orders of magnitude to levels like any other country..Otherwise we would have to account to future generations of Singaporeans as to how we have been fooled so badly: to believe that the Singapore Cabinet is so special that they have to be paid several fold more than their counterparts in other developed countries, even world powers.Because they wont be offered lucrative speaking appointments or book royalties, said the PM. Should we compensate them for their mediocrity on the World stage? The other oft repeated argument by the Ruling Party’s spokesperson for paying them over the moon is that it would prevent them from corruption. I think this must be the real reason, an innate greedy predisposition.
If a man or woman is paid a fair wage, even at the Ministerial level, s/he will be normal. If overpaid, and overpaid so grossly, madness will overtake her/him. The things that happened to us especially the last five years is a phantasmagoria of a mad screwing of the populace to get more and more money, at all costs, by any means. Look at how one million foreigners gain work in Singapore during the last five years and how more than a hundred thousand people are made citizen each year. The mad dogs are bent on erasing the Singaporean from the face of the Earth.If we miss this window of opportunity to make them less mad for money, we will have to fight them like in Egypt, Tunisia and Libya five years down the road.

]]> By: doppelganger http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/third-ministers%e2%80%99-pay-hike-in-two-years-%e2%80%93-staying-together-or-moving-ahead/comment-page-2/#comment-212343 doppelganger Thu, 09 Jun 2011 15:03:29 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=3290#comment-212343 Ministerial salaries are a sham and a shame on us. It reflects our cowardly nature that we allowed the PAP to push such a heist through Parliament without fighting it out with them. I think that we should report this heist to the UN Human Rights Department. It is not Genocide, murder, assassination, rape of course, but. in keeping the salaries at that grotesque eminence does impoverish us and a standing challenge to our sense of the absurd. Now the PAP have installed a committee made up of their own connected people to review their salaries. The PAP has also got to maintain the machinery of fear now well oiled in the legal and police apparatus of the country in the way judges comply to the requirements of their political masters The faceless police, ISD, has transferred their focus from going after the Enemies of the State to enemies of their friends in high places.The AG and ISD now work for Elite Lawyers who are connected with individuals of the Ruling Party. They will threaten and harass and humiliate any citizen when called upon by the elite lawyers to do so even when that citizen is involved only in domestic conflict ( with their friends) with no elements of National security or criminality. In 5 years time they have managed to get into Singapore one million foreigners into the country.. The PAP has changed the genotype of our people in a fast and furious deluge of people. All this is done without going back to the citizenry for consultation.. Why, they wasted so many opposition candidates in their 50 year rule that comes time for them to increase their own pay, there were only 2 opposition members as against 87 PAP members in Parliament. Naturally there was also no effective countervailing voice in Parliament when they started 5 years ago to pump prime the economy by pushing in one million foreign bodies. Nowadays you have to be suicidal to protest, as Singapore is fast becoming a rogue police state. I have come to know that elite lawyers and their firms can commandeer the whole panoply of State Institutions to help them fight their cases. I have written to the competent authorities on this for my own case but they just disregard me for the most part. In two or three instances when their underlings gave me replies, those seem to come out from their mission statement or party manifesto. You will also find another trait of the Singapore official. He is not allowed to talk without the permission from his superiors and as his superiors are not readily to hand and the day to day issues are too numerous to handle, it turns out that all these officials cannot talk with their own mouths. Non response is their way of life. They become the imaginary people whom you write to without replies.. Yet at election time they appear like magic before you at your home , at the food centres, markets, bowing and scraping and kissing your babies. Ministerial salaries are a sham and a shame on us. It reflects our cowardly nature that we allowed the PAP to push such a heist through Parliament without fighting it out with them. I think that we should report this heist to the UN Human Rights Department. It is not Genocide, murder, assassination, rape of course, but. in keeping the salaries at that grotesque eminence does impoverish us and a standing challenge to our sense of the absurd. Now the PAP have installed a committee made up of their own connected people to review their salaries. The PAP has also got to maintain the machinery of fear now well oiled in the legal and police apparatus of the country in the way judges comply to the requirements of their political masters The faceless police, ISD, has transferred their focus from going after the Enemies of the State to enemies of their friends in high places.The AG and ISD now work for Elite Lawyers who are connected with individuals of the Ruling Party. They will threaten and harass and humiliate any citizen when called upon by the elite lawyers to do so even when that citizen is involved only in domestic conflict ( with their friends) with no elements of National security or criminality.
In 5 years time they have managed to get into Singapore one million foreigners into the country.. The PAP has changed the genotype of our people in a fast and furious deluge of people. All this is done without going back to the citizenry for consultation.. Why, they wasted so many opposition candidates in their 50 year rule that comes time for them to increase their own pay, there were only 2 opposition members as against 87 PAP members in Parliament. Naturally there was also no effective countervailing voice in Parliament when they started 5 years ago to pump prime the economy by pushing in one million foreign bodies.
Nowadays you have to be suicidal to protest, as Singapore is fast becoming a rogue police state. I have come to know that elite lawyers and their firms can commandeer the whole panoply of State Institutions to help them fight their cases. I have written to the competent authorities on this for my own case but they just disregard me for the most part. In two or three instances when their underlings gave me replies, those seem to come out from their mission statement or party manifesto.
You will also find another trait of the Singapore official. He is not allowed to talk without the permission from his superiors and as his superiors are not readily to hand and the day to day issues are too numerous to handle, it turns out that all these officials cannot talk with their own mouths. Non response is their way of life. They become the imaginary people whom you write to without replies.. Yet at election time they appear like magic before you at your home , at the food centres, markets, bowing and scraping and kissing your babies.

]]> By: doppelganger http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/third-ministers%e2%80%99-pay-hike-in-two-years-%e2%80%93-staying-together-or-moving-ahead/comment-page-2/#comment-212340 doppelganger Thu, 09 Jun 2011 14:53:49 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=3290#comment-212340 I first heard of the reason given by the PAP why the Ministers have to be paid their present enormous salaries back in 1994. The gist of it was that if you do not pay them that well they will be corrupted. Holy Cow! What a fragile moral backbone these noble office holders are deemed to have Then a few weeks ago, the PM gave on TV another reason which is even more fantastic. The gist of it was that the Ministers must be paid their astronomical sums because they will not have the opportunity to attract lucrative fees for talks and book royalties once their tenure ends. I thought to myself as soon as I heard this reasoning by the PM himself. Should the citizenry compensate these Parliamentarians for their mediocrity on the world stage? The PAP obviously pamper themselves covertly and overtly, so much so that the PM must have heard this reasoning very often from the horses’ mouths and he may have just blurted out this inane syllogism without conscious thought. How else can I explain to myself how a well educated Cambridge Mathematician can justify a reward for being unexceptional; such a massive reward of millions of dollars per annum at that. I have to record these two pieces of PAP reasoning for the basis of the Ministerial salaries so that the Salaries Committee does not use the same again on us. It may provoke mass insanity among Singaporeans. I first heard of the reason given by the PAP why the Ministers have to be paid their present enormous salaries back in 1994. The gist of it was that if you do not pay them that well they will be corrupted. Holy Cow! What a fragile moral backbone these noble office holders are deemed to have
Then a few weeks ago, the PM gave on TV another reason which is even more fantastic. The gist of it was that the Ministers must be paid their astronomical sums because they will not have the opportunity to attract lucrative fees for talks and book royalties once their tenure ends. I thought to myself as soon as I heard this reasoning by the PM himself. Should the citizenry compensate these Parliamentarians for their mediocrity on the world stage?
The PAP obviously pamper themselves covertly and overtly, so much so that the PM must have heard this reasoning very often from the horses’ mouths and he may have just blurted out this inane syllogism without conscious thought. How else can I explain to myself how a well educated Cambridge Mathematician can justify a reward for being unexceptional; such a massive reward of millions of dollars per annum at that.
I have to record these two pieces of PAP reasoning for the basis of the Ministerial salaries so that the Salaries Committee does not use the same again on us. It may provoke mass insanity among Singaporeans.

]]> By: doppelganger http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/third-ministers%e2%80%99-pay-hike-in-two-years-%e2%80%93-staying-together-or-moving-ahead/comment-page-2/#comment-212337 doppelganger Thu, 09 Jun 2011 14:43:36 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=3290#comment-212337 Do you know that you can make a private person’s complaint to the UN Human Rights Council that the PAP since 1994 has increased its own salaries as Parliamentarians to absurd heights of at least six fold more than that of any other comparable office holders in the world. Their salaries top by several orders of magnitude the salaries of even the office holders of Governments of major powers like the UK and US. I think a case can be made that the PAP has systematically over a period of 50 years criminally wiped out and wasted individuals who protest and dissent against it, clearing the stage for the coup in 1994 when it first initiated the startling salary scales of Parliamentarians and has been increasing the payout exponentially till today. We will wait and see what the WP will do about this once Parlaiment sits. If nothing happens we will find a way to report the matter of absurdly high salaries of Parliamentarians as a crime against Singapore citizen in the category of a Human Rights violation. We will seek for a fair repayment of the excess paid out to each individual Parliamentarian over his or her tenure. My fellow citizens, you do see that the millions paid out per annum topped by a lifelong pension is unsustainable. If we take no action now when these Parliamentarians are still alive and able to make good their excess takings, we cannot find no excuse to future generations of Singaporeans. We can say that we are scared of the PAP’s control of the legal system but that will be the lame excuse of the coward. This is a sacred trust we hold for the present citizens most of whom do not understand the enormity of the issue and are incapable of dealing with the heist. It is even more sacred a trust to future citizens as the exorbitantly rich pensions will be paid out to all who pass through the doors of the PAP in their self renewal program.And this will tie us up for quite some years for seriously large sums of money. I think that we shall have to revisit this issue soon and make preparations for the complaint to the UN Human Rights Council. Do you know that you can make a private person’s complaint to the UN Human Rights Council that the PAP since 1994 has increased its own salaries as Parliamentarians to absurd heights of at least six fold more than that of any other comparable office holders in the world. Their salaries top by several orders of magnitude the salaries of even the office holders of Governments of major powers like the UK and US. I think a case can be made that the PAP has systematically over a period of 50 years criminally wiped out and wasted individuals who protest and dissent against it, clearing the stage for the coup in 1994 when it first initiated the startling salary scales of Parliamentarians and has been increasing the payout exponentially till today.
We will wait and see what the WP will do about this once Parlaiment sits. If nothing happens we will find a way to report the matter of absurdly high salaries of Parliamentarians as a crime against Singapore citizen in the category of a Human Rights violation. We will seek for a fair repayment of the excess paid out to each individual Parliamentarian over his or her tenure. My fellow citizens, you do see that the millions paid out per annum topped by a lifelong pension is unsustainable. If we take no action now when these Parliamentarians are still alive and able to make good their excess takings, we cannot find no excuse to future generations of Singaporeans. We can say that we are scared of the PAP’s control of the legal system but that will be the lame excuse of the coward. This is a sacred trust we hold for the present citizens most of whom do not understand the enormity of the issue and are incapable of dealing with the heist. It is even more sacred a trust to future citizens as the exorbitantly rich pensions will be paid out to all who pass through the doors of the PAP in their self renewal program.And this will tie us up for quite some years for seriously large sums of money.
I think that we shall have to revisit this issue soon and make preparations for the complaint to the UN Human Rights Council.

]]> By: arron http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/third-ministers%e2%80%99-pay-hike-in-two-years-%e2%80%93-staying-together-or-moving-ahead/comment-page-2/#comment-36299 arron Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:01:26 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=3290#comment-36299 The standard of <a href="http://www.visitors.sg/medical-resources.asp" rel="nofollow"> singapore medical clinics</a> is very good now. But of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion. The standard of singapore medical clinics is very good now. But of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

]]> By: aiyoyo http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/third-ministers%e2%80%99-pay-hike-in-two-years-%e2%80%93-staying-together-or-moving-ahead/comment-page-2/#comment-36274 aiyoyo Thu, 27 Nov 2008 07:49:57 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=3290#comment-36274 aiyoyo pay hike? what's the economy outlook like for 2009? aiyoyo

pay hike?

what’s the economy outlook like for 2009?

]]> By: ACACIA http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/third-ministers%e2%80%99-pay-hike-in-two-years-%e2%80%93-staying-together-or-moving-ahead/comment-page-2/#comment-35906 ACACIA Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:38:32 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=3290#comment-35906 Absolutely lost all respect and decency for all of them. Singaporeans really have short memories. There was strong opposition when they started this madness of high salaries. They basically shot themsleves in the foot and lost face. Absolutely lost all respect and decency for all of them.
Singaporeans really have short memories. There was strong opposition when they started this madness of high salaries. They basically shot themsleves in the foot and lost face.

]]> By: jefj0901 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/third-ministers%e2%80%99-pay-hike-in-two-years-%e2%80%93-staying-together-or-moving-ahead/comment-page-2/#comment-35622 jefj0901 Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:19:03 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=3290#comment-35622 If on the eve of polling day, they decided to do something like cash handouts, rebates here and there, tax breaks etc, assuming the economy still in the gloom..They are going to win it big time. For the simple reasons.. 1) People are have goldfish memory when it comes to minding money and neccessities. People forgets when money dangles in front of them in times of need.. carrot + donkey = run faster 2) The salary hike will happen but so does civil service pay. Civil servants will enjoy increment and variable bonus +++. Again..carrot+ donkey = run faster.. 3) The earlier budget announcement is to douse the people's notion that the government doesn't care. The budget aims to also to silence mismanagement of town council funds, gastronomic spending on overseas investments and also the fallout of structured products. With projected lower GDP and higher inflation plus rising deficit, another sure thing is financial assistance and more cash to be given out.. donkey + more carrots = well fed, sleepy donkey 4) Singaporeans don't need freedom of speech or basically human whatever rights we just want our problems to be settled by our government..and after more than 50 years of rule..I think they can read exactly how to keep majority submissive and satisfied. smart master + well fed sleepy donkey = more hard work tomorrow for donkey If on the eve of polling day, they decided to do something like cash handouts, rebates here and there, tax breaks etc, assuming the economy still in the gloom..They are going to win it big time. For the simple reasons..

1) People are have goldfish memory when it comes to minding money and neccessities. People forgets when money dangles in front of them in times of need..
carrot + donkey = run faster

2) The salary hike will happen but so does civil service pay. Civil servants will enjoy increment and variable bonus +++.
Again..carrot+ donkey = run faster..

3) The earlier budget announcement is to douse the people’s notion that the government doesn’t care. The budget aims to also to silence mismanagement of town council funds, gastronomic spending on overseas investments and also the fallout of structured products. With projected lower GDP and higher inflation plus rising deficit, another sure thing is financial assistance and more cash to be given out..
donkey + more carrots = well fed, sleepy donkey

4) Singaporeans don’t need freedom of speech or basically human whatever rights we just want our problems to be settled by our government..and after more than 50 years of rule..I think they can read exactly how to keep majority submissive and satisfied.

smart master + well fed sleepy donkey = more hard work tomorrow for donkey

]]> By: paul http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/third-ministers%e2%80%99-pay-hike-in-two-years-%e2%80%93-staying-together-or-moving-ahead/comment-page-2/#comment-35617 paul Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:53:33 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=3290#comment-35617 They have just announced that thanks to their poor performance in the only KPI that counts in the system they created - GDP, they will "only get" a three month bonus while the rest of the civil service gets a one month bonus. Then they have the cheek to call that a pay cut!!! Wow!!! Amazing chutzpah!! They have just announced that thanks to their poor performance in the only KPI that counts in the system they created – GDP, they will “only get” a three month bonus while the rest of the civil service gets a one month bonus. Then they have the cheek to call that a pay cut!!!

Wow!!! Amazing chutzpah!!

]]> By: tiredsingaporean http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/third-ministers%e2%80%99-pay-hike-in-two-years-%e2%80%93-staying-together-or-moving-ahead/comment-page-2/#comment-35535 tiredsingaporean Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:46:12 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=3290#comment-35535 The people are already suffering like mad and these scoundrels are all in to rob the citizens big this time, knowing that their party is going to lose badly soon. The people are already suffering like mad and these scoundrels are all in to rob the citizens big this time, knowing that their party is going to lose badly soon.

]]> By: sunup http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/third-ministers%e2%80%99-pay-hike-in-two-years-%e2%80%93-staying-together-or-moving-ahead/comment-page-2/#comment-35529 sunup Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:20:27 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=3290#comment-35529 The Pupy ministers and mps tot that they are 1st class leaders and dreaming of pay hike, my foot if they are dumped and out of favourite by the old lee king he will be like the former minister who is now working for an Indon corp and getting less than 10% of what he was paid as a minister. The Pupy ministers and mps tot that they are 1st class leaders and dreaming of pay hike, my foot if they are dumped and out of favourite by the old lee king he will be like the former minister who is now working for an Indon corp and getting less than 10% of what he was paid as a minister.

]]> By: The Singapore Daily » Blog Archive » Daily SG: 24 Nov 2008 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/third-ministers%e2%80%99-pay-hike-in-two-years-%e2%80%93-staying-together-or-moving-ahead/comment-page-2/#comment-35435 The Singapore Daily » Blog Archive » Daily SG: 24 Nov 2008 Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:41:25 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=3290#comment-35435 [...] Ministars, Get Rich r Die Tryin - TOC: Third ministers’ pay hike in two years – Staying together or moving ahead? - Feed Me To The Fish: Grandstanding or just sitting on their buttocks? - Everyday’s Life in [...] [...] Ministars, Get Rich r Die Tryin – TOC: Third ministers’ pay hike in two years – Staying together or moving ahead? – Feed Me To The Fish: Grandstanding or just sitting on their buttocks? – Everyday’s Life in [...]

]]> By: nokia71 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/third-ministers%e2%80%99-pay-hike-in-two-years-%e2%80%93-staying-together-or-moving-ahead/comment-page-2/#comment-35336 nokia71 Sun, 23 Nov 2008 17:25:34 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=3290#comment-35336 Singapore is really a yoke. Whole world know we pay millions & millions to JOKERS who self-claim they are the 1st class leader, yet they lose BILLIONS to foreigners. 3rd pay hike for minister? f*ck the hell PAP ... you really think you can do whatever you like? People are losing job and some even need to struggle for daily meals, yet you want PAY HIKES? Singapore is really a yoke. Whole world know we pay millions & millions to JOKERS who self-claim they are the 1st class leader, yet they lose BILLIONS to foreigners.

3rd pay hike for minister? f*ck the hell PAP … you really think you can do whatever you like? People are losing job and some even need to struggle for daily meals, yet you want PAY HIKES?

]]> By: Yuchengko http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/third-ministers%e2%80%99-pay-hike-in-two-years-%e2%80%93-staying-together-or-moving-ahead/comment-page-2/#comment-35260 Yuchengko Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:19:09 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=3290#comment-35260 Government and citizens of the world want CEO pay to be cut. Shouldn't ministerial pay pegged to private sector pay take a leaf from the lessons of the economic crisis? Government and citizens of the world want CEO pay to be cut.

Shouldn’t ministerial pay pegged to private sector pay take a leaf from the lessons of the economic crisis?

]]> By: ronin http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/third-ministers%e2%80%99-pay-hike-in-two-years-%e2%80%93-staying-together-or-moving-ahead/comment-page-2/#comment-35251 ronin Sun, 23 Nov 2008 08:15:16 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=3290#comment-35251 This thing of paying our ministers top private sector salaries is simply crapshit. Most (if not all) our ministers would not even draw half of their present salaries if they were in the private sector AFTER we stripped them of all their political connections. This thing of paying our ministers top private sector salaries is simply crapshit. Most (if not all) our ministers would not even draw half of their present salaries if they were in the private sector AFTER we stripped them of all their political connections.

]]> By: interested http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/third-ministers%e2%80%99-pay-hike-in-two-years-%e2%80%93-staying-together-or-moving-ahead/comment-page-2/#comment-35239 interested Sun, 23 Nov 2008 07:05:03 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=3290#comment-35239 u should allow them their par increase as this was planned in the past. whats happened now is just bad timing. dun begrudge your beloved ministers their increase. they are counting on it to pay their investments and mortgages etc...... sorry for the poor singaporeans who have to suffer. after all this is an elitist society and we have no sympathy or place for others............. :P u should allow them their par increase as this was planned in the past. whats happened now is just bad timing. dun begrudge your beloved ministers their increase. they are counting on it to pay their investments and mortgages etc……
sorry for the poor singaporeans who have to suffer. after all this is an elitist society and we have no sympathy or place for others…………. :P

]]> By: Got Bully http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/third-ministers%e2%80%99-pay-hike-in-two-years-%e2%80%93-staying-together-or-moving-ahead/comment-page-2/#comment-35170 Got Bully Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:07:43 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=3290#comment-35170 what can you expect from a one party rule ? Spore at this phase must have at least 2 parties to do check and balance, ministers pay themselves so sky high now with taxpayer money are a sin when yo see so many poor people are struggling to meet ends meet. Spore moving this way by a few self-interest leaders is sadly a sure way to go down hill as a nation. what can you expect from a one party rule ? Spore at this phase must have at least 2 parties to do check and balance, ministers pay themselves so sky high now with taxpayer money are a sin when yo see so many poor people are struggling to meet ends meet.
Spore moving this way by a few self-interest leaders is sadly a sure way to go down hill as a nation.

]]> By: Poh http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/third-ministers%e2%80%99-pay-hike-in-two-years-%e2%80%93-staying-together-or-moving-ahead/comment-page-2/#comment-35159 Poh Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:49:19 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=3290#comment-35159 These blood suckers deserved high pay cos they need to spend all these money for future longer term hospitalisation fee. So i agreed with them that they need the next pay hike. These blood suckers deserved high pay cos they need to spend all these money for future longer term hospitalisation fee. So i agreed with them that they need the next pay hike.

]]> By: tiredsingaporean http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/third-ministers%e2%80%99-pay-hike-in-two-years-%e2%80%93-staying-together-or-moving-ahead/comment-page-2/#comment-35149 tiredsingaporean Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:06:33 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=3290#comment-35149 77) pumpkin on November 23rd, 2008 12.08 am We should ask our ministers to make yearly declaration of their wealth! Why is it not done here when such declaration of wealth is done in Thailand? They can't and someone will not allow that to happen to protect himself from being investigated resulting in many more to surface later. 77) pumpkin on November 23rd, 2008 12.08 am We should ask our ministers to make yearly declaration of their wealth! Why is it not done here when such declaration of wealth is done in Thailand?

They can’t and someone will not allow that to happen to protect himself from being investigated resulting in many more to surface later.

]]> By: pumpkin http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/third-ministers%e2%80%99-pay-hike-in-two-years-%e2%80%93-staying-together-or-moving-ahead/comment-page-2/#comment-35141 pumpkin Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:08:06 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=3290#comment-35141 We should ask our ministers to make yearly declaration of their wealth! Why is it not done here when such declaration of wealth is done in Thailand? We should ask our ministers to make yearly declaration of their wealth! Why is it not done here when such declaration of wealth is done in Thailand?

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