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		<title>By: Zoroukah &#8211; Moving past that perennial unfairness: Student Activism and the Student Concession Fare Issue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoroukah &#8211; Moving past that perennial unfairness: Student Activism and the Student Concession Fare Issue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 12:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Moving past that perennial unfairness: Student Activism and the Student Concession Fare Issue &#124; The Online Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moving past that perennial unfairness: Student Activism and the Student Concession Fare Issue &#124; The Online Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 11:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Shank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, the english of poly student these days are quite, how do i put it, &quot;OK LA, SO SO ONLY MAH!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, the english of poly student these days are quite, how do i put it, &#8220;OK LA, SO SO ONLY MAH!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul AKA High King Mighty Lord UDeep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul AKA High King Mighty Lord UDeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is LUDeep again! Not so much news yet, eh? Hope we do something fast. I won&#039;t give up so easily on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is LUDeep again! Not so much news yet, eh? Hope we do something fast. I won&#8217;t give up so easily on this.</p>
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		<title>By: tiredsingaporean</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiredsingaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read now Annuities for Singaporeans, pension for ministers?
and all you citizens will now wake up shocking never did we know that all these self created elites are pumping out so much of our tax payers monies just to keep them going strong in torturing the citizens. All we thought was that the “pension scheme” in singapore is no more in practise all these years but never did we realise its still effective to these legalised robbers, and the already suffering citizens still have to continue feeding all these useless elites till they go to their graves, my god! I thought thaksin is bad enough but didn’t realise we are many more times worse than him. Singaporeans are still kept in the dark till these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read now Annuities for Singaporeans, pension for ministers?<br />
and all you citizens will now wake up shocking never did we know that all these self created elites are pumping out so much of our tax payers monies just to keep them going strong in torturing the citizens. All we thought was that the “pension scheme” in singapore is no more in practise all these years but never did we realise its still effective to these legalised robbers, and the already suffering citizens still have to continue feeding all these useless elites till they go to their graves, my god! I thought thaksin is bad enough but didn’t realise we are many more times worse than him. Singaporeans are still kept in the dark till these days.</p>
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		<title>By: isa</title>
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		<dc:creator>isa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#21) ...
ah... a rose by any other name just does not sound as sweet as your own ..right.., gemami</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#21) &#8230;<br />
ah&#8230; a rose by any other name just does not sound as sweet as your own ..right.., gemami</p>
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		<title>By: gemami</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/transport-petition-%e2%80%93-good-response-at-first-public-outreach/comment-page-1/#comment-31621</link>
		<dc:creator>gemami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 07:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm... i&#039;m beginning to like the idea . . . largest gathering of complaining clowns...;)

btw, glad you decided to drop the &lt;i&gt;r&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm&#8230; i&#8217;m beginning to like the idea . . . largest gathering of complaining clowns&#8230;;)</p>
<p>btw, glad you decided to drop the <i>r</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: isa</title>
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		<dc:creator>isa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 07:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#17) gem,

Guiness Book of Records again? *roll eyes*
We are already the unofficial guiness book of records holder for &quot;the nation with the most number of stupid senseless mass orgy events in the world&quot;..

Alot of senseless records that can only be forgotten in a second and I only remember a lot of clowns trying to participate to break the records.

Can you clowns try to break some records that people will come to remember you for like saving the most number of endangered species (and no.. you clowns are not one of them..there are plenty around..sorry).... Or nation providing the most donations/assistance to the charitable organisations who need your help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#17) gem,</p>
<p>Guiness Book of Records again? *roll eyes*<br />
We are already the unofficial guiness book of records holder for &#8220;the nation with the most number of stupid senseless mass orgy events in the world&#8221;..</p>
<p>Alot of senseless records that can only be forgotten in a second and I only remember a lot of clowns trying to participate to break the records.</p>
<p>Can you clowns try to break some records that people will come to remember you for like saving the most number of endangered species (and no.. you clowns are not one of them..there are plenty around..sorry)&#8230;. Or nation providing the most donations/assistance to the charitable organisations who need your help.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul AKA High King Mighty Lord UDeep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul AKA High King Mighty Lord UDeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that we have a lot of support in this petition! We’re talking about Tens of Thousands even Hundreds Of Thousand Poly Students affected. Our Money is at stake!

In the Name of Lord UDeep and of Singapore Polytechnic, WE WILL RISE TO MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL! Let’s make this FAIR so everyone is happy!

For Singapore Poly! FTW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that we have a lot of support in this petition! We’re talking about Tens of Thousands even Hundreds Of Thousand Poly Students affected. Our Money is at stake!</p>
<p>In the Name of Lord UDeep and of Singapore Polytechnic, WE WILL RISE TO MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL! Let’s make this FAIR so everyone is happy!</p>
<p>For Singapore Poly! FTW!</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel Chung</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/transport-petition-%e2%80%93-good-response-at-first-public-outreach/comment-page-1/#comment-31596</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel Chung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Jingwei, Mervin and the rest of the TOC team have been great in supporting this cause. It is heartening to see Bernard and his team having the initiative to lobby for their beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Jingwei, Mervin and the rest of the TOC team have been great in supporting this cause. It is heartening to see Bernard and his team having the initiative to lobby for their beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: gemami</title>
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		<dc:creator>gemami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 04:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>isa, isa, very naughty isa.

you&#039;re actually quite right in the &lt;i&gt;&#039;mass complaing part&#039;&lt;/i&gt;.

before the internet age............. we all thought we were loonies, complaining to ourselves.

with the advent of the internet age,...........we found out that we are not loonies because everyone else is also complaing.

what we have now is freedom and with it comes mass complaining!

maybe we are trying to get into the guiness book of records?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>isa, isa, very naughty isa.</p>
<p>you&#8217;re actually quite right in the <i>&#8216;mass complaing part&#8217;</i>.</p>
<p>before the internet age&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. we all thought we were loonies, complaining to ourselves.</p>
<p>with the advent of the internet age,&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..we found out that we are not loonies because everyone else is also complaing.</p>
<p>what we have now is freedom and with it comes mass complaining!</p>
<p>maybe we are trying to get into the guiness book of records?</p>
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		<title>By: isa</title>
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		<dc:creator>isa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 04:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#15) anus (i believed that&#039;s what you want to call yourself? :P)

&quot;We need to start nurturing no-comment singaporeans to learn to opinionate starting with small issues like .....&quot;

There is no need for nurturing Singaporeans to be opinionated.
Singaporeans are well known for having a comment for everything under the sun.

Just asked any foreigners who stayed here long enough and they will tell you Singaporeans like to COMPLAIN.

But now..it becomes WORSE.. they are starting to complain in mass. Before, they were complaining to themselves at home or with friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#15) anus (i believed that&#8217;s what you want to call yourself? :P)</p>
<p>&#8220;We need to start nurturing no-comment singaporeans to learn to opinionate starting with small issues like &#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>There is no need for nurturing Singaporeans to be opinionated.<br />
Singaporeans are well known for having a comment for everything under the sun.</p>
<p>Just asked any foreigners who stayed here long enough and they will tell you Singaporeans like to COMPLAIN.</p>
<p>But now..it becomes WORSE.. they are starting to complain in mass. Before, they were complaining to themselves at home or with friends.</p>
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		<title>By: puppy arsee</title>
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		<dc:creator>puppy arsee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with Gemami.

We need to start nurturing no-comment singaporeans to learn to opinionate starting with small issues like 

1. bus fares
2. safety of foods imported into singapore.
3. ERP
4. Salary &amp; Foreign influx
5. Traffic light timings and effect on congestion

once they learn that in life, every human is different and unique and has different views, they would grow to understand why people can have a reason to disagree. That even loving couples can disagree on issues. They need to learn that discussions lead to better solutions and understanding. That Questioning is the key to discovering and understanding more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with Gemami.</p>
<p>We need to start nurturing no-comment singaporeans to learn to opinionate starting with small issues like </p>
<p>1. bus fares<br />
2. safety of foods imported into singapore.<br />
3. ERP<br />
4. Salary &amp; Foreign influx<br />
5. Traffic light timings and effect on congestion</p>
<p>once they learn that in life, every human is different and unique and has different views, they would grow to understand why people can have a reason to disagree. That even loving couples can disagree on issues. They need to learn that discussions lead to better solutions and understanding. That Questioning is the key to discovering and understanding more.</p>
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		<title>By: gemami</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/transport-petition-%e2%80%93-good-response-at-first-public-outreach/comment-page-1/#comment-31213</link>
		<dc:creator>gemami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>9) Stop the price Hikes! 

I agree that we need to do the small things to wake this nation of apathetic people up. For all you know, we may be mistaken that apathy is the cause of their slumber.

Since the ST has already labeled us a &#039;Petition Nation&#039; then so be it. If by drawing up petitions is the way to wake the people up, so be it. The end result is going to be very positive in this sense.

It might also be good, because the Govt cannot then ignore us. There is nothing wrong or dirty with petitions. It is peaceful, civilised and most of all it brings across the case of the people to the govt of the day.

So, let&#039;s get on with more petitions that covers every issues that affects us. Let&#039;s get more students involve too. This will ensure a brighter future for Singapore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>9) Stop the price Hikes! </p>
<p>I agree that we need to do the small things to wake this nation of apathetic people up. For all you know, we may be mistaken that apathy is the cause of their slumber.</p>
<p>Since the ST has already labeled us a &#8216;Petition Nation&#8217; then so be it. If by drawing up petitions is the way to wake the people up, so be it. The end result is going to be very positive in this sense.</p>
<p>It might also be good, because the Govt cannot then ignore us. There is nothing wrong or dirty with petitions. It is peaceful, civilised and most of all it brings across the case of the people to the govt of the day.</p>
<p>So, let&#8217;s get on with more petitions that covers every issues that affects us. Let&#8217;s get more students involve too. This will ensure a brighter future for Singapore.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul AKA Lord UDeep wants to plan something collosal to stop Raising Fares.</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/transport-petition-%e2%80%93-good-response-at-first-public-outreach/comment-page-1/#comment-31088</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul AKA Lord UDeep wants to plan something collosal to stop Raising Fares.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 11:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember, No matter what government is this, They must hear ALL. As a Poly Student myself from Singapore Polytechnic, I&#039;ll do anything, Anything, even something drastic, if it need be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember, No matter what government is this, They must hear ALL. As a Poly Student myself from Singapore Polytechnic, I&#8217;ll do anything, Anything, even something drastic, if it need be.</p>
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		<title>By: Puppy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Puppy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 07:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let us know if its legal. Like the idea. Maybe could seek advise from Chia Ti Lik ?

Philipines used it.
TW used it.
MY used it.
USA used it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us know if its legal. Like the idea. Maybe could seek advise from Chia Ti Lik ?</p>
<p>Philipines used it.<br />
TW used it.<br />
MY used it.<br />
USA used it.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Ling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Ling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 05:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, just wonder if it&#039;s a must to have Signatures? I recall tat one of the methods to support the Petition is to SMS in. Thus if we can employ the Networking Method, wont it create more awareness also?

I&#039;ve already forward the petition to my frenz though whether they support or not, i do not noe.

PS: I&#039;m not saying the above method is wrong, i just feel tat we should try and ulitize the technology to maximise the efforts.

+U</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, just wonder if it&#8217;s a must to have Signatures? I recall tat one of the methods to support the Petition is to SMS in. Thus if we can employ the Networking Method, wont it create more awareness also?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve already forward the petition to my frenz though whether they support or not, i do not noe.</p>
<p>PS: I&#8217;m not saying the above method is wrong, i just feel tat we should try and ulitize the technology to maximise the efforts.</p>
<p>+U</p>
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		<title>By: Puppy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Puppy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 05:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the Tonight on TOC : Do we expect Balji&#039;s view to differ much from the pm&#039;s? ha ha ha... have too many more important things to do....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the Tonight on TOC : Do we expect Balji&#8217;s view to differ much from the pm&#8217;s? ha ha ha&#8230; have too many more important things to do&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Stop the price Hikes!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stop the price Hikes!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 05:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good try students!

I feel that the real problem is APATHY. We need to start from things like voicing up and opinionating on small things before people would opinionate on bigger things. 

Many issues affect us Directly. This I fear many are oblivious to the point where they do not believe strong enough that they need to talk about it with all the tertiary student stakeholders.

I would hope to see more activities where students can opinionate their views openly. We can start with smaller issues so that its less &#039;political&#039;.

Suggestion:
1. Why wait 15 minutes for a short distance trip to the nearby MRT and pay for it when you can cycle? Is this productive? Is it productive to commuters when buses ply a big round to collect revenue ? How should cycling system be improved? What are your views on cyclists using the pedestrian path and how this affects pedestrains and their safety. Are there enough cycle &#039;parking lots&#039;? Why Paris can do it so well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good try students!</p>
<p>I feel that the real problem is APATHY. We need to start from things like voicing up and opinionating on small things before people would opinionate on bigger things. </p>
<p>Many issues affect us Directly. This I fear many are oblivious to the point where they do not believe strong enough that they need to talk about it with all the tertiary student stakeholders.</p>
<p>I would hope to see more activities where students can opinionate their views openly. We can start with smaller issues so that its less &#8216;political&#8217;.</p>
<p>Suggestion:<br />
1. Why wait 15 minutes for a short distance trip to the nearby MRT and pay for it when you can cycle? Is this productive? Is it productive to commuters when buses ply a big round to collect revenue ? How should cycling system be improved? What are your views on cyclists using the pedestrian path and how this affects pedestrains and their safety. Are there enough cycle &#8216;parking lots&#8217;? Why Paris can do it so well?</p>
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		<title>By: Saint Splattergut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saint Splattergut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, I was there but didn&#039;t see anyone lol.</description>
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