Boris Chan
Some 179 foreign workers from Bangladesh fear they may not have a place to sleep or food to eat in the coming days. Their employer has basically abandoned them and they are being evicted from their dormitory in two days.
The Online Citizen (TOC) was alerted to their plight and visited them yesterday at Tagore Lane.
The workers had each paid agents some S$8,500 for a 2-year contract to work in Singapore shipyards. The agents said they could earn up to S$18 per day and more if they worked on Sundays. In two years, they could earn some S$15,000, enough to cover the money they paid to the agents and bring home a small sum.
However, they are not employees of the shipyards. The sub-contractor employed them and sent them to the shipyards to work as welders and electricians. Their starting pay was S$16 per day but were paid only if they had job assignments. After being here for more than a year, they had their pay increased by one dollar to $17 per day. For a good period of time, it was not an issue. But in the past two and a half months, many of them did not get any work assignments – some for as long as four months – and thus no pay as well.
Now they are worried and desperate about what will happen next. Their employer has denied responsibility for them and has vacated the office from the factory. The drivers who drove them to work have also vacated the dorm. They have no money and no food and were told that the landlord is going to evict them as the rental period for the dormitory is expiring soon. They have called the police and approached the Ministry of Manpower yesterday for assistance but to no avail. Their next course of action is to seek help from their embassy here.
TOC will update readers on the situation in future reports.
Headline picture by Stephii Chok.
Here is a video interview with the workers.
Pictures by Boris Chan:
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When they did something good to the country in the past, we pay and pay cos its called nation building, fine with us singaporeans!. When they did something bad or mistakes and push the blame on a 3rd party, we still have to pay and pay for their mistakes. When we discovered that they (PAP TCs) illegally gambled off our monies, they says that we should thank them and ultimately who is going to be the sucker? we again. When we discovered about their profiteering (HDB), they say its fair to pay the market price and on the other hand, they keep saying that they subsidizing alot for us, my poot! what more? the list goes on and on . . . . . would like to ask, ARE WE SINGAPOREANS BORN TO BE SUCKERS?
BeWary (#51),
You rather pay for expensive price due to HDB profiteering or more humane treatment for construction workers. Please consider the positive spill-over effects of humane treatment and salaries for construction workers to Singaporean workers’ salaries too.
The workers had each paid agents some S$8,500 for a 2-year contract to work in Singapore shipyards. The agents said they could earn up to S$18 per day and more if they worked on Sundays. In two years, they could earn some S$15,000, enough to cover the money they paid to the agents and bring home a small sum.
This is just human trafficking by all those bloody cruel people out there.
#34 mohoon, the gov has been manipulating Singaporeans’ mentalities & personalities to only care about ourselves & not others. It brainwashes Singaporeans to think they have to be competitive & get higher salaries than their peers. & make Singaporeans think that what they have currently is not enough, & that they should always strive harder to earn more. It suppressed wages so Singaporeans can never be comfortable enough to think about anything else apart from earning more $.
Singapore will only get worse if everyone continues to have the old-school mainstream “care-only-about-ourselves-&-not-others” mentality. Equal human rights can never see the light in Singapore if this bad mentality continues to run rampant in the society.
Screw that mentality. It’s the dawn of a new age. Thanks to the internet, many Singaporeans like you & me are finally realizing what we’ve been missing out on in terms of human rights all these years. For years, gov has blinded Singaporeans from the presence of human rights in 1st world humane countries with a veil of illusion. While proclaiming that Singapore’s standard of living is among the top countries in the world. Among the top of the world? Cost of living is, standard of living is not.
It’s disgusting that gov is doing nothing to prevent foreign workers from getting ripped off. Pay $8.5k to work? I need around 600 Australian dollars for an Australian work visa, & I find that expensive enough already. It seems that gov & agencies not only do not care about foreign workers, they do not care about citizens residing in Singapore as well.
The high number of foreign workers does constitute to discomfort in terms of crowdedness in the country. This caused a lack of personal, living & breathing space for residents in Singapore.
Now, you can see rising numbers of abandoned foreign workers. That possibly shows that not so many workers are required in Singapore in the 1st place. Even if so many of them were required in the 1st place, gov should foresee the possibility of a down-plunge of economy & halt of building projects, & limit the number of imported foreign workers. This way, there would be less crowding in Singapore, & the lower number of foreign workers would probably be better taken care of.
But no! For the gov & agencies don’t seem to care about our nor foreigners’ comfort & welfare. They can rip foreign workers off & chuck ‘em aside as long as they get their $8.5k per head. What if foreign workers do not have work to do to justify the $8.5k they each paid? Well, this problem does not affect their own pockets, so, why bother?
C’mon, Singapore is a 1st world country. Everyone has rights to voice his feelings & opinions. A more humane leadership & society! More focus on people’s comfort & welfare & not own pocket!
I would suggest that TOC starts a fund raising campaign to provide lodging and food for these unfortunate men from abroad. They deserve our sympathy and let see how Mr Mah would response to this issue. This is the time to show to the government that the peope tat action speaks louder than words..
My hats off to TOC, you have once again gone beyond the call of duty.
I would like to contribute a suggestion, maybe the we should start some kinda of charity. We get the NMP’s and MP’s etc to do some kinda of Hip Hop and lip sync to raise funds for this cause.
And we can get a minister to present the cheque for the total funds collected to this people who are in this plight.
MOM collects foreign workers levy. Now they wash their hands. Where is the moral responsibility to fellow human beings.
Another awakening.
But do they care?
Exploitation has been the name of the game. Money at any cost and $ingapore leaders are more concerned about their own pockets and well being than foreign workers. If they cannot even care about the welfare of poor Singaporeans, I doubt the give a fcuk to the foreign labourers!
The whores and pimps as shown in Al Jazeera
is another unique 1st world $ingapore that $ingapore leaders should be proud of when talking big about how other countries are learning from $ingapore!
http://feedmetothefish.blogspot.com/2008/12/singaporeans-arent-we-proud-of-being.html
If they are willing to kill innocents by selling cluster bombs and other firepower to make a buck, letting the foreign labourers to suffer and die is no big deal.
Likewise, who can we blame if forsaken foreign labourers start to steal, rob or kill just to feed themselves and survive? No wonder they are so keen in repatriating them. Lesser of 2 evils?
1st world $ingapore leaders must know we reap what we sow.
To everything, there’s a season under heaven.
The season to payback is nigh.
feedmetothefish
ok guys… let’s all forward this article and link to the MOM. Let’s try help the workers as much as we can. C’mon, let’s be good hosts. Show them not all singaporeans so heartless
I just spoke to someone who used to work in MOM. She said usually in this case MOM will look into it. May either deport them, or find them new employment. But the first thing they do is to find places to house them, so dun worry they won’t be homeless. But just to be on the safe side, let’s be good citizens and call and notify. Unless of TOC has done that, and will update us.
Conclusion is MOM have to answer + take responsible for this current reported excessive 179 or worst 17900 manpower problem. It was their decision to allow company to hire oversea employees with no fix ratio against numbers of singaporeans to save business cost.
Good luck Mr manpower million dollars minister on Budget 2009 in answering question on cheap workers policy taking over singaporeans rice bowls, but blew it up with so many unemployed cheap investment giving 1st class citizen a shameful employment practice to the world in 2008 golden age period.
Our foreign worker policy needs to be reviewed. Current rules allow pure exploitation of these workers from less developed countries.
The government has not moved the country from a third world to first world environment as it still rely on cheap foreign labour to solve our cost structure problems.
Instead of buying useless loss-making american banks, it should spend those money on upgrading our low value-add industries through mechanisation and automation.
Make menial tasks less difficult to perform. Make changes to the work hours. Genuinely increase the productivity of each worker, whether local or foreign.
I have lived in Australia for a while and saw the many little improvements one can do to make a menial task easy to do even for a senior. The companies and the country need to invest in the infrastructure, that’s all.
And pay every worker the same rate for the same job, damn it.
Hi 55) pugdragon, very well presented, thanks.
I join my voice to #56) Andrew and #57) Blind Man, that TOC might want to consider putting together a fund raising campaign to help people who find themselves in all sorts of marginalized predicaments. It would be good to set up a TOC subsidiary and register it as a charitable organisation for its outreach to the poor and marginalized program. Yah, need a program, complete with vision and mission statements.
Joshua #61). Great job seeking clarification from MOM. Is that why there is a report of this case in this morning’s TODAY papers? One other thing, the fw interviewed in the report said he had not eaten for a day. Would MOM be seeing to it that they are fed while an amicable solution is sought out? Whatever it is, TOC has done a great job for being first to the news. Really put the MSM to shame.
I read with interest also, the comment from TODAY’s report that there has been an oversupply of foreign workers to safeguard the expectations of the employers, that is, should they demand for more workers, the numbers are readily available. Who controls and approve the number of foreign workers brought in by these unscrupulous agents? Either the ministry who approve these applications are not doing their job or basically have been turning a blind eye to this unscrupulous practice. Someone must answer for it.
TOC may I know what’s the address of the location?
Govt please send this people back to their countries if there is no other solutions. If the unscrupulous employer has flouted the laws, punish him severely as an example. If your guidelines are not comprehensive enough for such a situation, improve the guidelines. At least do something before more FW becomes jobless and we have a huge social problem.
Glad that MON and the employer are now exposed to the public spotlight.
TOC alone will not be able to help these foreign workers. But if the TOC report help in any way to bring the matter to the MSM attention and lead to the publishing of the TODAY report, then TOC has done a good service to the foreign workers.
At least for now, MOM and the employer have to do something to take care of them and settle the issue.
Kudos to the member of the Public for giving TOC the tip off such that we the rest of the members of the public can have this golden chance to SEE and HEAR and READ and Understand with our own senses the REALITY , PLIGHT and PREDICAMENT of our foreign low wage workers.
Without a splinter of a doubt, this shows that possibly many more like them have been exploited by employers.
without a splinter of a doubt, this Confirmed for us the need for Minimum wage and a real need to provide minimum living condition for workers.
From a humanitarian perspective, this kind of living condition has debased humanity.
I urge those that need to be urged to understand this problem is real and intolerable for a 1st world standard.
If there is no minimum wage , who can assure that lowest wage earners will not be exploited and exploited further especially in a time when all employers are sinking and trying to protect their own wealth and secure their fat bonus.
I urge for the setting up of low wage union to fight for the lowest ranked workers.
But I worry. I worry employers will say, if you implement minimum wage system, they not happy want to migrate.
And this is the way in the digital age.
yours bluntly
Malimah Lim Teo Swee
I think the root problem is that we have a flourishing economy with no local workers willing to participate in the work of these companies.
So they approach MOM and being pro-business, they allow S-passes to be issued to unskilled foreign workers. Of course, the govt reaps montly fees off these workers paid for by the employers.
Nevertheless, as the workers pay enormous fees ranging from $8,000 to $15,000 to come here and work for a two-year minimal contract, they also pay a huge cost and want to benefit at the end of the contract. Agents from the host country and us enjoy huge fees when they successfully bring in groups of such labourers.
Frankly, all parties to this “slave” trade works well untill the economy turns nasty this year. Companies make losses and have to close down. Workers get no work and sometimes no salaries. MOM steps in only when alerted by VWOs or the papers. They lose when workers go back in terms of monthly work permit fees. Workers lose more as they may have to go back prematurely locked in deficit as they have to pay back loans made out when they come here in the first place.
The retail sector also booms as such workers need to go out and buy stuff. The whole multiplier chain works here though not as much as anticipated due to their low purchasing power. Due to their remitttance, we may also lose abit here as they may send back at least 3/4 of their salaries to their loved ones back home.
The only way to stop this slave trade is to look at ways to tighten up the lax labour laws in bringing in unskilled foreign workers. In pursuing after businesses, we may have give in to inhumane labour laws exposing ourselves to unethical practices.
Can some of the jobs performed by foreigners be carried out by locals here? Can the terms be improved so that such work is deemed attractive enough for locals?
just an update from newspaper reports.
- TWC2 providing meals and shelter. (this happened early on, though maybe not in time for TOC report)
- MOM said they are investigating and have not technically “washed their hands ” off it. They have suspended the company’s ability to hire foreign workers.
- this is not the employer’s (Tipper Corp) first problem with foreign workers.
- this is not entirely a function of the economic crisis. The subcontractors ditched these workers because of a legal battle between them and Tipper.
Hi Gilbert,
Good assessment but I think you missed one very important point. No doubt that the marriage of arrangement worked well when times were good and the bad sides only begin to surface once the good times turned bad.
This is why it is important to look at how this arrangement is not given in to abuse when bad times come, which is what is happening now. It is imperatively important that the govt sends out a loud and clear signal to would-be employers waiting by the wings who are about to do the same thing.
We are seeing the first world elite division one team in action. Foriegn workers are getting cheated by agents, foriegn students are getting cheated by their agents and Singapore is fast earning a notorious reputation. Well done to our super elite million dollar Ministers. Its a wonder how some employers can get permits for this workers so easily while some have to beg to get a single worker and how private schools can get student pass for these students so easily. Well I guess there is more to it than meets the eye.
have anybody ever counted
how much just
1 foreign talent come into our shore?
let me give you a rundown
shall we?
the ^slave^ worker fork out an average $10,000 s dollars
before he even earned his 1st month wages
this also include domestic maids
yes it does
no domestic maids come in for FREE
avergae
they owed the recruiting agent 8 (EIGHT) months of their salary
for permits/air tickets
the employer in singapore who paid an agency fee is NOT subsidising the maid
@ ALL…don’t be conned by the local agency
i know because i used to be a carrier for all this agencies
so this add up
to 1 year/2 year of their lives working for nothing
which is why some of this maids is tempted to stealing/moonshinning parttimes
ministry of manpower is ripping the levies 100% profit ranging from $300++ onwards/foreign worker with a ZERO factor cost output
as stated each worker will have to spent an average of a minimum $100/200 or whatever in terms of expenses
and after 6 months or so
most of them would be using handfones
where telco will be reaping another extra source of income
now you know why the 3 telecos are LEE familLEE inc controlled…
ever $ spent
every $ earned by LEE inc
better than suhartos’ corruptions right?
or marcos loots….
somemore legalised liscend as well
so now you multiply by the numbers of foreign workers in singapore
how much monthLEE profits the LEE inc received legalLEE?
I’ve checked the ILO website and guess what? Singapore actually supports the used of forced labour after denouncing C105 Abolition of Forced Labour Convention, 1957 in Apr 1979. This was despite ratifying it earlier in 1965. Maybe this is how our elites can get away with all this modern day slavery.
http://www.ilo.org/ilolex/cgi-lex/convde.pl?C105
C105 Abolition of Forced Labour Convention, 1957
Ratified by Singapore on 25:10:1965 Convention denounced on 19:04:1979
Description (Ratification)
Convention:C105
Subject classification: Forced Labour
Date of coming into force:17:01:1959
Country:(Singapore)
Subject: Forced Labour
Display the document in: French Spanish
Document No. (ilolex): 191965SGP105
Ratification date:25:10:1965
Status:Denounced
Has denounced this Convention.
#64 gemami, I refer to your quote, “there has been an oversupply of foreign workers to safeguard the expectations of the employers, that is, should they demand for more workers, the numbers are readily available.”
That is the epitome of “kiasu-ness” & “kiasee-ness” that’s so uniquely old-school Singapore. For companies’ own convenience should demand for workers rise, more workers are stationed here so they can be readily available. When the demand for workers drops, agencies & gov don’t care as long as they get their moolah per head. They don’t care what happens to these workers.
Screw the old school Singaporean mentality of “kiasu-ness” & “kiasee-ness”. That’s disgusting. However, people are free to have those mentalities if they choose to ‘cos this is a free world. & I am free to find those mentalities repulsive.
“So they approach MOM and being pro-business, they allow S-passes to be issued to unskilled foreign workers. Of course, the govt reaps montly fees off these workers paid for by the employers.”
I think there is a misconception that the levies were paid for by the employers. In this case in point, it is clear that the employee actually paid the levy (correct me if I am wrong).
http://www.mom.gov.sg/publish/momportal/en/communities/work_pass/work_permit/application/requirements/foreign_worker_levy.html
I suspected that the S$8,000~S$10,000 (as indicated in Today’s publication) the FW paid for an approximate two years contract without guaranteed of work speaks for itself. The agent work as a go between to collect levy on behalf of the government. The difference of the two is that the agency or agencies collect in advance from these FW seeking work. Whether at the end of the day, monthly levy are paid to the government largely dependent on whether there is work assigned to these FWs. I am not too sure of the workings in terms of how levies are charge, whether it is fixed monthly or can be pro-rated. The fine print specified in the ratio of local versus FW. 1 “fulltime” local to 7 foreign workers (note: there is no indication that it must be full-time FWs, the levies still applied). Someone with legal expertise care to shed lights?
I am not too sure of Singaporean not wanting this kind of jobs (during good times). I believe it is more to do with the wages accorded and the unreasonable working hours required (we are speaking in the terms of first world nation). Whether it is Manufacturing, Construction or Professional services… etc, if you run a business (most of them are with little conscience but with loads of revenue margin driven thoughts), if you can employ someone with 30% or more less pay to do the same kind of job (and may be with better experiences), it is not hard to see the influx of such people given the lax migrant worker rules Singapore has decided to adopt. Ya, a nice way of denouncing the advocacy of cheap labor by imposing a levy collection rule. Do we all believe it? Underneath it, more FW means more monthly levies to collect to justify their stands on promoting lower operational cost for businesses to operate in Singapore and of course to justify their enormous pay packages. The more you analyze these matters the writings are on the wall for all to see. If this migrant worker rules do not change or be refined to protect the interest of native Singaporeans, we will see more natives out of jobs when the recession is in full swing (next year and a half). Nothing will stop non-conscience, high profit driven businesses or employers to look for cheaper cost to operate wherever possible.
Observer,
I doubt that foreign workers pay the work permit fees themselves. I t should be borned by the agent or employer. Of course, i may be wrong here. In the business world like ours, i guess we are all unscrupulous and could resort to cheating at the expense of the workers.
In my course of work, I have being cheated a few times by employers. Some delayed payment whereas others don’t follow the contract carefully. The contract if examined properly also favours the employer more than the employee. Many also cheated on medical benefits or giving no benefits at all.
The problem here is that our labour laws are very lax and pro-business. Many will give in if the amount is not huge for what good will it do to go to MOM if it is just a few hundred dollars?
Moving ahead, for foreign workers, it will be good for all that we curtail this influx of workers. They not only depress wages but also subject themselves to unscrupulous agents and employers. This is like the umpteenth case that I have heard this year about foreign workers being fleeced.
I know that employers need foreigners to finish up the work as locals avoided such manual jobs that pay poorly. Such work should be enhanced together with some WDA programme to make it attractive to SIngaporeans. It is ironical that there are 45,000 jobs available now and we still have 30,000 unemployed on record. Something is not very right here.
I believe the fees are ‘extracted’ from the workers, making it part of the job-seeking fee paid by the fw before he leaves his country. Very much the same way pimps get their girls to pay upfront cash to be brought over for prostitution and then living off their earnings.
Dear Gilbert,
I think this debate of FW or FT has been played out for many times and I do not see an end to this in the near future. In fact, we should not let it rest until our fellow citizens are well taken care of. No one deny the fact that Singapore needed to be competitive that I am sure about (I can even hear the bells ringing in my dream).
Supposed if the government can categorically refine the ratio of employment (for the sake of protecting the interest of its people ~ this should not be construed as advocating protectionism), instead of 1 local to 7 FWs, why not the other way round 3 Locals 1 FW, with reasonable wages (peg to the economy ~ as the high paying government love to associate their worth with), I think the employment scene in Singapore looks much better.
Whatever Singapore is facing today are all man-made. Yes to some degree, I believe there are certain external elements that we cannot control like anything to do with cost of natural resources, but I think the Singapore government is smart enough to define legislation to minimize the impact and at the same time have our very own people interest at heart taken care of. We came a long way and if only these current bunch of dimbulbs wake up from their complacencies and get down to work then perhaps we will have many teething issues resolved.
As for the continual influx of FW, it largely depending on the immigration rule or migrant working rule. You can’t stop these people for searching a greener pastures (compared to where they came from). Unscrupulous businesses and employers are everywhere (not just in Singapore), but I think Singapore can do better to curb such practices with our fine rules.
Call me evil, but sometime I just wish natural disaster strike us hard and that we have to all start from ground zero again. Lake Tomba in Indonesia is indeed very close proximity to Singapore. If only history repeat itself, whatever happened 75,000 years ago … (You can honestly tell that I am out of my mind today). May be that is not such a bad thing to happen given what we are experiencing and heard the past decade.
Dear Observer and Gilbert,
I fully agree with Observer that we musn’t let this die, just as with the minibond saga and the TC’s non-disclosure which it is now beginning to show signs of heading in the right direction and concrete plans are now sort of being drawn up.
I am trying to locate a ST forum letter written by Lee Wei Ling a couple of weeks ago who spoke up against the abuse of foreign domestic maids. She mentioned something along the line that we seriously need to look at protecting these migrant workers and to see to it that their basic rights are protected; and; that this is no way for a civilised society to treat another human being.
This would be a good article to pursue further the rights of these poor migrants. It cannot be better than words spoken by LKY’s daughter.
See if you guys can locate the letter.
If only we had the following, I know many people will say its easy to comment after the event. but now its not to late to implement
1)MINIMUM WAGE with people friendly policy.
Will minimum wage, I do not think we will have problems like this to being with.
The minimum wage thing is like flogging a dead horse. When the labour chiefs who are suppose to protect the interest of the workers are dead against such a legislature, it shows that the unions are but a mouthpiece for the government.
Dear Observer(SG-HK);
may I say that I too have wished that a natural calamity befalls on us.
But it was not because I see Singaporeans suffering badly in survivals, we do see that there are so much cars and the roads are congested, carparks are hard to find. Shopping complexes are everywhere and plenty of useable items are thrown away comes every Chinese New Year and Hari Raya. Singaporeans are too wasteful and living spiritual-less(humanities/emotions/non religious) material live. Upmanship, showmanship, boastfulness and material pursuits seem the only purpose of being.
There are much relationship breakdowns in marriages, families(between parents/child, siblings), neighbours, employers/employees, superiors/ subordinates and citizens/leaders. It just reflects a sick society.
The policies and directions that our leaders have set contribute much to the situation I described above. And the worst, in my view, is the Leadership developing this tiny dot in a one direction expressway to a materialistic rotten culture that will soon take away the human-ness(feeling of benevolence) of the people. In this case of the abandoned workers, which is not the first case of abuses nor will it be the last, we witness first hand, how some of us including our leaders are callous and unfeeling in treating fellow beings.
It is not hard to see and understand how bad we have progressed over the last two, three decades. If a person has little or no feelings of love and sympathy for his/her kins, kiths, neighbours, friends and fellow beings but attach him/herself to material wellbeings, the society is heading for doom.
And my thinking is that a fast doom is preferable to a slow excruciating one and of course the end will results in a new beginning which hopefully will redeem the conscience of man. Lost and found always brings joy.
patriot
Dear Patriot,
It is so sad isn’t it? To see all these unveil before us day in and day out (never mind where you are). This is really a very twisted world now. The fact that WE the HUMAN kind, the one with all that thinking power…..(sigh)..just so very sad. For all my fantasy, how I wish I have a magic wand on hand that can change the world at will.
I really hope the world leaders will wake up and come to their senses and have the drive to same our one and only home EARTH. If this home of ours is destroy in the name of progress, the trade off is really a heavy price to pay. But then again, natural disaster cycle is every 75 million years according to experts analysis. No one can tell whether this cycle is nearing. If you watch NGC regularly, you will know what I mean. It is no joy to witness natural disaster happening before our eyes albeit everyone of us will someday pass on. We should all pass on peacefully. Very negative view isn’t this? But that is part and parcel of the reality.
Coming back to the current real world. On a serious note, I really hope our fellow citizens (whether they are FWs or not), we and no one should not suffer under the name of progress. Man made problems can be resolved. It is with the will and determination in us to all bind our hands together to find a solution to it.
For the 179 FWs affected, I really hope they are given a fair treatment. They are afterall our fellow earth brothers and sisters. Some of us may not like FWs or FTs and blame them for the sufferings of our very own fellow Singaporeans, they (this group) and others yet to surface are having a hard time surviving as well. They too have their families back home to support as well. I only hope the relevant authority will step in proactively and do something good. While you are at it, do also think of your fellow suffering Singaporeans. All they are asking for is a peaceful decent living, a roof over their head and have some quality time to spend with their families. If our older generations can go through the transformation 40 some years ago, I am sure we can do it again if you do it with conscience and with the citizens at heart. Search within you, there is still some good inside you dying to be set free. Bless you all and may we end 2008 with a good note. 2009 is not rosy but we all can weather it togethre gracefully if you leaders set a good example. Quality and happy living is not all about wealth.
mistakes! mistakes! when you get emotional typing along.
the following should read “…world leaders will wake up and come to their senses and have the drive to save our one and only home EARTH.” instead of …”same…”. and “…we and no one should suffer under the name of progress.” instead of “…we and no one should not suffer under the name of progress.”
My sincere apology.
for this ^poor^ workers
the ministry of manpower
have the ability to solve the issues
is whether
they (MOM really wants to or not)
hawkers centres are in dire straits of table cleaners
i am sured every hawkers centre can take a couple of this ^lads^
for a decent meals in return and a basic lowest wages as makeup pay
you tell me
which hawkers would not provide a plate of leftover dish for this lads?
even if 1 hawker donate $1 single dollars each
in 1 day how much money they have earned?
so what is so difficult?
if the ministry of manpower lacked the foresight/ability to implement such an idea
lets YOURs truly do it
for a FEE
for nothing is FREE
Hi Patriot and Observer,
I believe this has everything to do with the world economies going global. The global economy concept, although a good initiative, especially for resource scarce Singapore which happened to be tiny as well, and for which it puts us on a level playing field to compete with bigger economies, has blinded us into a one-track approach to survival.
It has become the sole purpose for this govt to find it wise to place all our eggs into this global economy concept and basket. The difference here is that, should this concept fail, as it is being seen and felt worldwide now, we have nothing to fall back on unlike the bigger, land rich and natural resource rich countries who can fall back on these productions to see them through.
Singapore is as doomed the moment the global concept fails. It is very irresponsible of this government to do what they are doing and continuing to pursue this end without any regard for the only resource we have – us – the people.
Patriot & Observer, I understand exactly how you guys feel when you suggested the extreme hope of misfortune or calamity befalling us. As patriots and lover of the land we call home, and no matter how disillusioned we have become, it is best not to express such thoughts in public spaces. These thoughts are best kept within the walls of private discussions. I have the highest regards for both of you and it is quite sad to hear these words coming from both of you. I feel I need to express myself here, hope you understand.
IMHO, I feel we do not need to look at extremes and hope for an overnight change. This is unreal and wishful thinking.
We can however, work towards gradual change. We can, in our own personal way, commit ourselves to spreading the lies of this government and making the people around us see these lies and how we have been cheated from God knows when.
When all of us start doing this and make the extra effort to proselytize and convert people’s belief, in time we should be able to effect some changes in bringing in more alternative voices into parliament. Remember how we were treated better after we voted in 4 opposition MPs? This ought to be our aim for the short term. We cannot even think long term for now.
Hi All My friends,
Things may not look so bad afterall.
I am sure the labour law may improve hopefully with the current crisis looming over us. For a start, FWs will decrease due to the deepening crisis.
For minimum wage implementation, this won’t happen at least not under the current regime – sad to say. For reasons best known to them, they choose not to do so as employers may fled (remember the story?). Our locals will continue to be screwed here and I foresee more young people fleeing the country to stay elsewhere in future.
We may see a very bad year come 2009. Many workers, both white and blue collared, will be jobless. As mentioned before, retraining can only benefit the blue collared workers more. The professional jobless will feel very left out and demoralised. I am sure there will be some vote swing going on here.
I last remembered I had a change in my mind about which party I want to serve when I was jobless and feeling helpless, more so when the state has nothing much going for me then. When I went down to the CDC, they refered me a part time cleaner job that pays $300 a month! I have to drop by for an interview also to qualify for the job.
As the economy worsens, there will be more people getting demoralised and disheartened. Hopefully, this will bring about change at the polls and affects politics at he the high places. There is no other way for change I am afriad.
Dear gemami,
Thank you for the kind reminder and thank you for holding highest regards for both of us. Appreciate it. My sincere apology to readers here for those negative views. Please disregard it. Thanks.
Sincerely,
Observer (SG-HK)
Dear Observer (SK-HK),
Very kind of you for understanding.
I am one who is always on the lookout for your posts especially, as they never fail to teach me a thing or two (I have said this before). I know also that sometimes emotions can get the better of us (see post #85), but we must at all times fight back the urged to wish evil (I am guilty too sometimes), even on enemies, let alone families and friends.
Thank you for apologizing. You have shown you are wise, once again.
Rather pitiful, but send them home as soon as possible.
Once I had a Bangladeshi cleaning my office. He was a strong looking chap. But turned out to be slow and lazy. After two other Bangladeshis the contractor gave up hiring Bangladeshis. He hired a small-looking lady who got the job done much faster and without fuss.
This is the experience of Malaysia. Malaysia has since banned Bangladeshi workers sometime back. We welcome foreign workers who can contribute but judging by the Malaysian experience we should be very careful and not be taken in.
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/southasia/news/article_1362274.php/Malaysia_re-imposes_ban_on_hiring_of_Bangladesh_nationals
Dear gemami Post#87;
I will have to say that I feel better after having said that damning statement, at least it allows me to relief myself of a mad feeling. Maybe I just feel that the Ten Commandments, the Great Flood(Noah’s Ark) and the Recent Sichuan(China) Earthquake were events that resulted in awakening and rekindling mankinds’ conscience. I cannot help believing it to be so.
When the majority is powerless against a powerful few and tried very hard to plead with the Latter to no avail, Nature has to give a helping hand. I know some of us have been doing our utmost, we reason, we plead and even begged for understandings from our leaders, some even suffered gravely been made bankrupt and character assasinated. But, we see that not only our wishes and hopes fell on deaf ears, livings and survivals are made more challenging as time progresses. The worst and most shameless deeds of our leaders were the ways they self awarded their World Record remunerations in contrast to the stagnant and falling incomes of their subjects on top of constant raising of the costs of livings. Structural unemployment has plagued us for over a decade since the 1997 Asian Financial Meltdown, one man was credited to have brought us out of that doldrum, did he? Just the opposite is what I see, don’t You?
Without the Internet, I would have ceased participating in any discourse for I would have thrown in my towel and raised up both my arms. However Blogs like TOC and people like You and others here re-ignited my hope. HOWEVER, I SEE NO CHANGE IN OUR LEADERS’ IDEOLOGY AND IT APPEARS THAT THEY WANT ABSOLUTE CONTROL OVER THE PEOPLE NOW.
My sincere apology to all for this personal rant.
Yourstruly: patriot
i foresee a riot or protest on the streets by these FT in the near future…when push come to shove…
Where $$$ is concerned and when people start to get desperate…anything is possible.
20/12/08
Dear Gilbert
Yes, I piety them and it is time for our Singapore government to get tough and bring their employer to court so that in future this will not happen again.
Regards
Andrew Chuah
Dear Patriot #92),
You’re absolutely correct that these people who call themselves leaders cannot contiunue to have the best of both worlds. When things go well, the take credit and reward themselves. When things go wrong, the citizens get the blame and they ask for rewards to see us through, even before they lift their first finger to show us they can do the job. Either way, their pockets are fattened.
What has our country, our beloved homeland become?
What I cannot understand is why do we continue to live helplessly when we know we have the power to bring about change?
Why have we become the cowards that we are, and are now so famous for, not only here in our backyards but all over the world?
When will we realise that we are the laughing stock of the world?
When do we want to decide that we have to get out of our bondage?
Why are we so happy to continue to embrace our captivity, our slavery?
I am honoured, very honoured that my contributions have given you the stength to strive on. For a while back then, I thought you had lost your drive to fight. I am glad that your spirit has been rekindled and I hope to learn much from you.
Yours truly indeed,
Gemami
Dear gemami;
thank You much for the encouragement.
TOC and all the people here and many at other sites have given me much opportunity to learn, to interact and draw some consolations.
Thank You all !!!
From: patriot
Well what do you want , when I hear one of your ministers say he does not care about being re-elected ( what a laugh , no opposition allowed) only about GDP . This shows he is like the rest of the corrupt and incompetent world financial/industrial system members , and this will onl;y change and improve when the current leaders are replaced or climate change destroys large portions of the planet .
The government in Singapore want cheap labour and low salaries to stay competetive , maybe the west should look at Singapore and apply import taxes on it for unfair competition .