Going back to the issue — OK, the workers need detergent, soap, toothpaste and toilet papers? Sure. Where to send them to? The workers were moved to Yishun already? Don’t feel comfortable giving cash although that is the most convenient… I’ll faint if anyone buys cigerettes and beer after getting money…. am I normal to feel this way?

Appreciate any advice.

i am going to tell you a real real story here
happenned in singapore 5 or 6 years back
fellow foreign indians
cheat fellow foreign indians
ok here goes
3 little indian men were chanting
hay hu ra thumb tump
hay hu ra thumb tump
opps that was the red indian raindance story
wrong book
(chuck one cornor)
arh here is it
hay hu ra thump tump
ok ok
you all gotta the drum beat
ok to add spice
3 little indian men were thumpin and dancin around the coconut tree
happy now
till 1 other indian joined them
this starnge indian is no ordinary indian
he one mudder fricker farkin slavemaster
he tell these 3 innocent injun
do you know in singapore
little india is paved with gold gemstones from king solomon minds
just bent over
picked any stones that glitter
guranteed you make a fortune
some other injun came
they digged out our lta cateyes in our highways
now you know why lta new roads are all red l.e.d.s lioa right?
so this 3 injun chaps
sold/mortgaged whatever they have
make 3 nice madeinindia passports
came to singapore
wearing smart new long sleeve shirts
yes brand new
i even saw the folding crease lining on it
when i said i saw
i meant with my eyes
not some straits times press medias….
they arrived
in changi airport
they were met by a foreign injun just liked their fellow countrymen
don’t asked me what caste this airport injun is
its wasn’t include in this story
this ^local^ foreign talent injun says
you 3
abunehneh
handover your document/passports
i am going to bring you
to your new employer for paperworks
he drove the 3 little injun men on his opened lorry pickups
from changi airport
he drove them to chuachukang cemetry
really chuachukang cemetry
don’t believed asked phuachukang
his mother was selling chendol @ the cemetry on a hot afternoon
so this 3 little injun
stand
(chuachukang cemetry have no aircon visitin room to rest your tired feets hor
not even a cup of drinkin water hor)
they wait
and wait
till somebody called in the mata
you know those blokes who wore long pants
not the kakied short pants version
the policemen knew what already happened
no needs interpreter from the indian high commision
the police aircon patrol car give them one cool of a ride
straight to immigration detention cell in joochiat
that where yours truly come into the picture
what yours truly does or do that
is for a 4 eyed vision only
no needs to go into details
i listened and asked not them
but the immigration personnels
who told me
such incidents happenned again and again
so i asked
what would happenned to this 3 little poor injuns?
immigration says
they will have to inform their family in india
to make alternative repratration airticket back home
the indian high commission
will only provide a piece of paper to allow them to come home
but i says
eer
ugm
they already mortgaged/sold whatever belongins they had
before comin over
the immigration personnel
asked me
is that our problem?
now you see
why am i ^cold^
what could i do?
when the indian high commision did nothin
beside typin a letter
i asked one last question
if the family in india have no funds to send over
so how?
immigration says
they would be holidaying in kaki bukit till this matter is resolved
i further asked
why don’t OUR govenment grant them temporary employment liked cleanin hawkers centre tables
so that they can earned their journey fare home
the immigration personnel mubbled
so who is goin to give the green/humane right?
ministry of manpower?
the endings
you all figured it out…

However, we should only help those who deserve it and i feel that these foreign workers are deserving of it. We should be kind and generous, but only to the right people. Remember Huang Na case? Singaporeans donated generously and that b***h mother rewarded herself with a bigger house in China. She is still laughing at our stupidity now. And the NKF case? I don’t have to say more.

Furthermore, most of the times as read in the papers, bangladeshi and indian workers seldom abuse the donations given to them. Sorry to sound prejudice, most of the time is the China ppl who misuse the donations and use it to help themselves, not for a good cause.

Seriously, wth is our Members of Parliament doing, always say the govt will help ppl but the MOM has only done is to collect money and then say cannot return..bla bla blah. It’s a disgrace that MPs don’t even care about this foreign workers plight and when the ppl get involved and donate, the MPs come out last minute and then say” See we organised this thing.”. C**p.

The government then always supports those ang moh expats on the basis of “foreign talent”. Yet when AIG collapses during the financial meltdown, the “foreign talent” ang moh boss is the first to quit and run off to another country, where they can get fatter paychecks. Whereas, these banglas helped us build our houses and toil hard under the sun.

I think it’s time for the “Malaysia March08″ assault, next election we must vote in 50% PAP and 50% opposition, see whether PAP MPs still talk cock. The Malaysians done it and we can do it.

Shalom. Peace be with you.

It is I who should thank you all instead. Like I said, it’s going to be a very Merry Christmas for me. I hope and wish all of you have a wonderful one too.

Peace to all.

ps if your friend face got blown up
you would not be here
and yes i do have platoon mate ass being blown when his 60mm mortar misfired
i too was the same mortar man
how come his as s got blown
my wasn’t?
simply because he were posted to another unit
now you see
it not my time to die yet?
share with us a little of your gift
if you have any
come on
be a sport

let us all be courageous, fair and kind.

A Merry Christmas and Many Peaceful Years Ahead to All !!

patriot

Thanks for your kind words. I am glad to hear that you see the point me and patriot is trying to make. It is always hard to fathom what a person thinks. It is also difficult to instigate people to try to read between lines. The world is round and regardless of how we view things, at the end of the day; the end result may turn out to be the same. The difference is some see it earlier and the others may still be wondering why it had happened. Some may even resulted into allowing hallucination to set in and living in virtual reality. But you have got to admire people who do that, as they really do believe in their perspective of life. Life can be stressful if you allowed it to take hold and not deal with it.

We are only HUMAN and we are prone to make mistakes. The importance is to live with our mistakes and be at peace with it. I have a fair shares of ups and downs in life (still on roller coaster ride as of today), but heck, that’s life. Some wise people I have met in life repeated this call to me: “Young man, to be successful in life, the importance is to be courageous to pick yourself up where you fall, it is no big deal should you fall, for you owe yourself a good living and the world is big enough to accommodate one more dream”.

Here’s wishing you and all in TOC a Merry and Happy Christmas season.

Many thanks for your wonderful advise and I regret that I did not heed it when I knew it was the right thing to do. Well, I am at peace with myself because I did what I did when I followed my heart, like I always do in my life.

There was a period time though when I would vent my frustrations on almost anything. But I have since changed because I realised , through some good advice given by a total stranger, that life is more beautiful than we think it is.

I was reluctant and had refrained from sharing my own personal experiences because deep down I knew there will be no end to it in such kind of arguments. I would tell a story, another one will come in as a rebuttal with more intensity than my own. Then I would offer another one and another rebuttal. For example, if I were to counter his IRA story by saying I have seen a friend’s face blown up into pieces before my very eyes, what good would it do? He will come back with something else like he is doing with practically every comment posted here. I know this type of people. I have dealth with many of them, am still. If only teach of them would see the problem that is himself.

I know stroking the ego of such people might solve half the problem but I believe that doing do will do such people more harm than good because they will die without knowing how beautiful, warm and loving this world is or can be.

Yes we can go on and on about our life stories but in the exchanges above, I will be the first to run and hide my face should someone enters the fray and asked if we have really faced life in its extremities? Do we know what it is like to have all that you have yesterday but to find out today that you have lost a leg, a hand or an eye? How can we then compare to such harsh realities? Where will I hide?

Just like we the manner in which we are looking at these 179 Blangadashies, it is not the ‘ME’ factor that is important but the THEM factor. If we cannot be sensitive to this, then we have lost the flame in our hearts. Any arguments thereafter will be under these two beliefs.

There is no gift of prophecy here, let’s not try to be too nice. One who believes he can prophesy has a big ego. One who believes he can prophesy with accuracy, has an even bigger ego. I now understand why I was up against it from the beginning.

We have wasted enough TOC space stroking his ego and I offer again my apologies to TOC, friends and readers.

I concede that I have been foolish to think the impossible. I admit that I have turned away the better advise of wise and true friends. I have learned a wonderful lesson in this exchange and I am looking forward to Christmas for this wonderful gift of understanding.

From the bottom of my heart, I thank you both Observer and Patriot. I deserve all the scolding I get but I am happy because my dance with Lucifer ended the day I decided it to be so, and to embrace LOVE.

please clicked here
http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/12/re-thinking-our-economic-expectations/#comments

Thank you for your advice. Very insightful and kind of you indeed. There might be a problem though, for someone who can’t speak a word of Mandarin or ‘Putonghua’, how to survive there though? China is so big, which province or which industry or work should one chooses if they decided to pack their bags and take up your advice?

What about America, Japan or EU states? They are after all the current three largest economies in the world. You do not see a future for these countries? Those emerging economies like (in no particular order) India, Australia, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam, Dubai, South Africa, and so many more. What about them? Surely your worldly futuristic vision does see something in them albeit it may not appear to be rosy. I kind of think that they needed your help as well. Don’t forget our very own home, Singapore. Surely, you do not like to see us all poor souls crumble like match sticks right?

Anyway, I think this is off topics and it will be good if you can write an article of what you see. I am sure TOC will welcome your submission but of course, every site does have their house rules. I have always believed that Respect is earned not a given. I am sure as insightful and a gifted person as you are would not disagree with this point of view. Would you?

By the way, I do not think people who contributed their previous comments are looking for fame and I believe many will agree, it just mean that we are concerned citizenry and are interested to share our point of views in a civic manner.

Sincerely,

Observer (SG-HK)

It’s always good to have people with strong philosophical views about life & aren’t afraid to have their opinions heard. Somehow, people with such strong views aren’t well-received in this country. I don’t know why, but it seems like people around you are always ready to put you down. People who don’t believe in free speech & is intolerant of differences. Ironically, that’s what the majority of Singaporeans are, from my observation of my surroundings & immediate friends.
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indeed life is tough
life is hard
for the weaker beings
we tried to assit
by voicing out
as loud as i CAN
by the end of the day
those i tried to help out by voicing
when called upon
would even denied they know me @ all
which is why
in jalan besar area
i will never stand for any solo elections
even if i had millionaire$ (which i do know a few)
because i know
you know when the isa agent knocked on my kopitiam table
all suddenly illang faster than a soccer 3 min toilet breaks…
even my owned siblings was SHOCKED
when i comfronted the real ex-lta minister
when he do his walkabouts in jurong west
if any of you ever see him
asked him did he recalled
1 fine sunday morning in jurong west shopping centre
did somebody challenged you
UNPREPARED?

It’s always good to have people with strong philosophical views about life & aren’t afraid to have their opinions heard. Somehow, people with such strong views aren’t well-received in this country. I don’t know why, but it seems like people around you are always ready to put you down. People who don’t believe in free speech & is intolerant of differences. Ironically, that’s what the majority of Singaporeans are, from my observation of my surroundings & immediate friends.

People here leaving comments aren’t afraid to voice their opinions, & we definitely need more people like these in the country.

Do not hate differences. However, everyone has their rights to. In the end, it boils down to what every single individual wants to believe in, & whether to agree with or disagree with the rest of the world.

Personally, on the subject of the topic, I’d prefer them to get their owed salaries paid & go back to their country. I stay in an area with very high foreign worker density, it’s not exactly the most beautiful & comfortable neighborhood to live in, & it’d definitely benefit from lower population density.

In the 1st place, companies should not even hire people “just in case” they’re needed urgently. A soccer manager doesn’t hire 8 super mega star strikers & have the majority of ‘em waiting for field time. If companies & gov are responsible bodies, they consider the plight of these workers should they not have enough work, & the comfort level of citizens in regards to country crowdedness.

PAP, nice try, but not quite there yet. I hope the country’s leader would do much better & free us all.

unfortunately
the site was shut down by the lancashire local paper big boys bullies
they don’t want to know the hidden truth
too many skeletons
this they must have learnt from pap grc tatics

another famous sport forum too was shut down in
INDIA
espn india
where i was a moderator
on a special sections
this sections i moderate come under
no bars rules
you can swore
you can curse
1 hell of a hotforum
simply because
the paskistani/indians sportreaders
simply hates each other
i am there to keep the peace between them
with my humours
that sites was closed
dued to economic depression
which happenned 2 years ago…
ole yes
by the way
my real real original nick is
still
moi
banned in too many sites
run a checkthrough
on sgforum/hardwarezone/vrforum/youngpap as well
guranteed moi is the number 1 BANNED list
other than that
have a nice day
opps
you were asking me
what do i see from now…
i see only 1 thinggie
if you want to survive
make it big
go CHINA…
yes china
for there is no signs of economic depression
work there if you have an opportunity
don’t demand too high
guranteed
you have no regrets

Thank you for your closed death encounters sharing. It takes a lot of courage to be able to do just that. Appreciate your candidness and kudos to your live fighting tenacity. However I think you are smart enough to know too that the world are filled with people of different characteristics and some may not be as strong a life fighter as you are and these are the people when in dire situation will appear to be hopeless, weary and needed outside help to weather through it.

From your sharing (I believe you have more installed), well, by at least one count, some good fellow earthling who are strangers to you then did pull you to safety when you were down with the motor bike accident. The world is not that cold after all right? I think you have a gift in you and wouldn’t it be nice to put it in good use?

You appeared to be (based on your writings) a religious person and that god had given you a rare gift. Wonder whether you could be kind enough to shed a light or two with your futuristic vision when would this recession come to an end? While you are contemplating, I am sure your foresight vision will see many sufferings encounter by less-fortunate fellow Singaporeans and other earthlings worldwide in the months or years to come passes you by. It will be indeed very kind of you if you might think of publishing your prophecy of the coming events, the world will be spared of this unwanted sufferings. I am sure at least TOC can accommodate it. Of course, the choice is yours to make.

I like to end my comment with this note. Being a staunched believer and advocate of Freedom of Speech, Expression and Choice (with social responsibility strings attached ~ simply put exercising self censorship when expressing controversial sensitive issues); I like to think that we all are matured thinking adults and do understand that we are just readers and posters hosted by TOC and certainly, respect should be accorded to TOC and the author or authors of the subject matter published for opinion and feedback. Like my cyber good friend Patriot and others had correctly noted that TOC has been doing a wonderful job so far as an alternative source of the daily happenings that affects Singaporean and for being accommodating even when views expressed had digressed slightly from the original intent of the article where our MSM fall short of advocating. I believe Andrew and TOC will welcome you to publish an article (or even become a regular guest writer) of my aforesaid request if you will be kind to accept this invitation.

Once again, moshedyan, my fellow Singaporean, thank you very much for sharing your personal encounters and life experiences, you have inadvertently provided insights that you need courage to fight on and to live out your dreams. I believe amongst the 179 FWs mentioned in this article, there will be some who possess the same kind of Fighting spirits like you do and someday will be able to share their stories with their siblings, friends, fellow men or us (TOC readers and posters) like you have done. They may be down but they are certainly not out. With a little help from caring people who had donated their valuable time and food aide, and now that MOM had step in to intervene, I think at least some perhaps will return to normal living soon (hope).

To Andrew, TOC and readers, please accept my sincerest apologies for digressing. If you feel that this comment is inappropriate, please remove it from posting as you deemed fit. Thank you.

Sincerely,

Observer (SG-HK)