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		<title>By: jwl</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/12/the-brotherhood-darkness-and-mortals/comment-page-1/#comment-124469</link>
		<dc:creator>jwl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 06:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am waiting for aliens to land too.</description>
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		<title>By: luxintenebris33</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/12/the-brotherhood-darkness-and-mortals/comment-page-1/#comment-38439</link>
		<dc:creator>luxintenebris33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much noises over an issue of little significance. Unless you are gay, the gay issue is a political diversion. The energy and intelligence have been misapplied. The space and time would be better served by concentrating on the urgent and important transparency and accountability issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much noises over an issue of little significance. Unless you are gay, the gay issue is a political diversion. The energy and intelligence have been misapplied. The space and time would be better served by concentrating on the urgent and important transparency and accountability issues.</p>
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		<title>By: jefj0901</title>
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		<dc:creator>jefj0901</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 08:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cant understand all tis. Are all the messages coded in Nordic..or some celtic? It seems to be falcon, gyre and darkness, romans...err.

This not good at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant understand all tis. Are all the messages coded in Nordic..or some celtic? It seems to be falcon, gyre and darkness, romans&#8230;err.</p>
<p>This not good at all.</p>
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		<title>By: bismarker</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/12/the-brotherhood-darkness-and-mortals/comment-page-1/#comment-38321</link>
		<dc:creator>bismarker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the way that the previous discussion has descended to really reflects the sad state of affairs in Singapore.

it seems private feuds take more precedence than genuine serious discussions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the way that the previous discussion has descended to really reflects the sad state of affairs in Singapore.</p>
<p>it seems private feuds take more precedence than genuine serious discussions.</p>
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		<title>By: singaporedaddy</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/12/the-brotherhood-darkness-and-mortals/comment-page-1/#comment-38317</link>
		<dc:creator>singaporedaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Rubberband Brigade,

I have been waiting for you chaps here for over a month! What took you all so long? 

Darkness has a personal message for all of you / rated must read status . highest priority / However, bfr releasing this message. I require your 7 digit authentication code. I am sure you all understand. I have to make sure, you ppl are who you really claim to be.

Pls send the code to our secure finisher or genuie SLF - I have arranged for our diplomats there to dock with you to further our discussion. 

Everything has been arranged. You have no idea how long we have waited for all of you to contact us.

I am happy, the circle is finally complete. My mission here is over.

SD

2nd class Pro-consul of the Interspacing Federation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Rubberband Brigade,</p>
<p>I have been waiting for you chaps here for over a month! What took you all so long? </p>
<p>Darkness has a personal message for all of you / rated must read status . highest priority / However, bfr releasing this message. I require your 7 digit authentication code. I am sure you all understand. I have to make sure, you ppl are who you really claim to be.</p>
<p>Pls send the code to our secure finisher or genuie SLF &#8211; I have arranged for our diplomats there to dock with you to further our discussion. </p>
<p>Everything has been arranged. You have no idea how long we have waited for all of you to contact us.</p>
<p>I am happy, the circle is finally complete. My mission here is over.</p>
<p>SD</p>
<p>2nd class Pro-consul of the Interspacing Federation</p>
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		<title>By: rubberband brigade</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/12/the-brotherhood-darkness-and-mortals/comment-page-1/#comment-38286</link>
		<dc:creator>rubberband brigade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You cooperate with the liaison officer. We will all come back and save sg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cooperate with the liaison officer. We will all come back and save sg</p>
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		<title>By: labrat</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/12/the-brotherhood-darkness-and-mortals/comment-page-1/#comment-38191</link>
		<dc:creator>labrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One day \ when Darkness and you Singaporedaddy and maybe the others are old. You will be like these men.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCo8KLjZhDY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One day \ when Darkness and you Singaporedaddy and maybe the others are old. You will be like these men.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCo8KLjZhDY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCo8KLjZhDY</a></p>
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		<title>By: singaporedaddy</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/12/the-brotherhood-darkness-and-mortals/comment-page-1/#comment-38077</link>
		<dc:creator>singaporedaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On record, I asked a question. On record no answer came from Ah Baey. Maybe he was too preoccupied with his &quot;organic experiments.&quot; I really dunno.

All I know is if you are a MP. Then you should put your ear close to the ground. If you dont, then that speaks for itself.

To the author:  Next time when you want to write an article - just make sure the caption bears out reality - as it is on record, he is certainly PAP, but IMHO, he certainly doesnt have the balls to dissent. I am so sorry. 

As for the rest of you; you can draw your respective conclusions on this entire episode.

Thank you Perm Sec for showing us all the way. Do send my warmest regards to the father of the game.

SD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On record, I asked a question. On record no answer came from Ah Baey. Maybe he was too preoccupied with his &#8220;organic experiments.&#8221; I really dunno.</p>
<p>All I know is if you are a MP. Then you should put your ear close to the ground. If you dont, then that speaks for itself.</p>
<p>To the author:  Next time when you want to write an article &#8211; just make sure the caption bears out reality &#8211; as it is on record, he is certainly PAP, but IMHO, he certainly doesnt have the balls to dissent. I am so sorry. </p>
<p>As for the rest of you; you can draw your respective conclusions on this entire episode.</p>
<p>Thank you Perm Sec for showing us all the way. Do send my warmest regards to the father of the game.</p>
<p>SD</p>
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		<title>By: singaporedaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>singaporedaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The show is over here. There is nothing else to see. Go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The show is over here. There is nothing else to see. Go!</p>
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		<title>By: Gilbert Goh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gilbert Goh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya let&#039;s close this link as Sd and Perm Sec look like they have make up.

Better to have a friend than an enemy in this sick world now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya let&#8217;s close this link as Sd and Perm Sec look like they have make up.</p>
<p>Better to have a friend than an enemy in this sick world now.</p>
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		<title>By: labrat</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/12/the-brotherhood-darkness-and-mortals/comment-page-1/#comment-38028</link>
		<dc:creator>labrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t seem to find the link that Perm sec aka ceo is talking abt, all I found was this.

http://intelligentsingaporean.wordpress.com/2007/07/29/can-someone-tell-me-why-our-scholars-aren%e2%80%99t-as-smart-as-the-jews/

One thing is clear, he is PAP and he dares to dissent, but it was perm sec aka ceo who brought down the Liaison officer and he himself said, 

&quot;I am not a PAP man&quot;

Muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t seem to find the link that Perm sec aka ceo is talking abt, all I found was this.</p>
<p><a href="http://intelligentsingaporean.wordpress.com/2007/07/29/can-someone-tell-me-why-our-scholars-aren%e2%80%99t-as-smart-as-the-jews/" rel="nofollow">http://intelligentsingaporean.wordpress.com/2007/07/29/can-someone-tell-me-why-our-scholars-aren%e2%80%99t-as-smart-as-the-jews/</a></p>
<p>One thing is clear, he is PAP and he dares to dissent, but it was perm sec aka ceo who brought down the Liaison officer and he himself said, </p>
<p>&#8220;I am not a PAP man&#8221;</p>
<p>Muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah</p>
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		<title>By: labrat</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/12/the-brotherhood-darkness-and-mortals/comment-page-1/#comment-38027</link>
		<dc:creator>labrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wot, Singaporedaddy, just gives in. Just like that? Isn&#039;t Perm Sec = CEO? CEO who happens to be a real CEO and heads a fortune 500 business is a regular cycling buddy of Darkness? CEO also happens to be a leader in the church that Darkness used to go too.

The story was CEO was sent by his pastor to turn around Darkness bc they had some ugly misunderstanding with him. Instead Darkness turned him to the Darkside. CEO has many powerful friends. CEO used to write in very often in the IS. He was maybe the only one who could shut up Darkness. He was a regular commentator.  The boys saw him as sort of a mentor figure. CEO has his own mind. He is much older than Darkness and the rest. Darkness likes CEO. He respects him for his knowledge and the wisdom he brings to any discussion. 

But why would CEO write against Singaporedaddy? Isn&#039;t he supposed to be with Singaporedaddy?

That&#039;s the part I can understand. But that would probably explain why it all ended with just one shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wot, Singaporedaddy, just gives in. Just like that? Isn&#8217;t Perm Sec = CEO? CEO who happens to be a real CEO and heads a fortune 500 business is a regular cycling buddy of Darkness? CEO also happens to be a leader in the church that Darkness used to go too.</p>
<p>The story was CEO was sent by his pastor to turn around Darkness bc they had some ugly misunderstanding with him. Instead Darkness turned him to the Darkside. CEO has many powerful friends. CEO used to write in very often in the IS. He was maybe the only one who could shut up Darkness. He was a regular commentator.  The boys saw him as sort of a mentor figure. CEO has his own mind. He is much older than Darkness and the rest. Darkness likes CEO. He respects him for his knowledge and the wisdom he brings to any discussion. </p>
<p>But why would CEO write against Singaporedaddy? Isn&#8217;t he supposed to be with Singaporedaddy?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the part I can understand. But that would probably explain why it all ended with just one shot.</p>
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		<title>By: lips</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/12/the-brotherhood-darkness-and-mortals/comment-page-1/#comment-38020</link>
		<dc:creator>lips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we not waste space on TOC&#039;s server with this rubbish? Smells like trolls</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we not waste space on TOC&#8217;s server with this rubbish? Smells like trolls</p>
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		<title>By: Gilbert Goh</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/12/the-brotherhood-darkness-and-mortals/comment-page-1/#comment-38012</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilbert Goh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is happening here?

What&#039;s the thing about darkness and light? Some kind of star war battle in the heavens?

Can someone fill me here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is happening here?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the thing about darkness and light? Some kind of star war battle in the heavens?</p>
<p>Can someone fill me here?</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/12/the-brotherhood-darkness-and-mortals/comment-page-1/#comment-38008</link>
		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry what is this about again? -_-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry what is this about again? -_-</p>
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		<title>By: gemami</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/12/the-brotherhood-darkness-and-mortals/comment-page-1/#comment-38005</link>
		<dc:creator>gemami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am still waiting for Lazarus and the 20 tomb raiding lizards to show up. This battlefield is specially set up for space alien catching rangers man! Or are you finding it too hot for your liking? Lost in space perhaps? Or have your twenty tomb raiding lizards spun out of orbit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still waiting for Lazarus and the 20 tomb raiding lizards to show up. This battlefield is specially set up for space alien catching rangers man! Or are you finding it too hot for your liking? Lost in space perhaps? Or have your twenty tomb raiding lizards spun out of orbit?</p>
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		<title>By: patriot</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/12/the-brotherhood-darkness-and-mortals/comment-page-1/#comment-38004</link>
		<dc:creator>patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Friends;

so sad, the thunder and  lightnings are gone, soon it will be a sunny day.

BUT DARKNESS WILL COME AND FOR SURE.

patriot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Friends;</p>
<p>so sad, the thunder and  lightnings are gone, soon it will be a sunny day.</p>
<p>BUT DARKNESS WILL COME AND FOR SURE.</p>
<p>patriot</p>
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		<title>By: singaporedaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>singaporedaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Darkness attributed the ultimate strenght of the Roman army to what he called its system of recruitment. He liked it so much, he even copied it to mirror the hegemony of the brotherhood. He saw its system of recruitment based not on it high command but by its legionary encadrement, the centurionate. The Roman centurions, long service unit leaders drawn from the best of the enlisted ranks, formed the first body of profssioal fighting officers. It was they and not as to claim external forces that imbued the legions with the backbone and transmitted from generations to generations the code of discipline, conduct and accumulated store of skills-at-arms that allowed the Roman arms to be successfully carried against hundred of enemies over 5 centuries.”

Let me see what did you do perm sec? You trawled through what Darkness once wrote in the Intelligent Singaporean about the how real &quot;elites&quot; perpetuate their class politics. 

Then you superimpose all this into a response to the question that I asked.

Did Darkness say all these things? Yes, he did Perm Sec. Was it unanimously agreed by all us? Yes, including myself. Were there any qualifications? No. 

He said what he said and ALL agreed to it, the matter is really cut and dried. 

So what are my options now Perm Sec? Let me see, if I even try to negotiate around this or even attempt to 鸡蛋里挑骨头 on what you have so meticulously commented on what Darkness once wrote; then who am I really fighting? 

Do you see my problem?

And since what you forwarded is just the tip of the iceberg on the whole thesis; if I am silly enough to lay siege to it; all you would have to do is throw out more of what Darkness once wrote about this whole matter; so where does that really leave me? 

Let me see. My supply lines will dry up; I don’t even have any reserves to mount a counter attack and given enough time, I’ve probably be encircled; the best I can hope for is a Verdun; a battle of attrition with no prospects of a break out. 

Brilliant.......very smart.

No my friend. It is clear. I never step into a place where I cannot walk out off. There is no ego, no pride even. 

I concede the point. 

This matter is closed as far as I concerned, its over - we have run out of road my friend.

SD (Internet Liaison officer of the brotherhood)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Darkness attributed the ultimate strenght of the Roman army to what he called its system of recruitment. He liked it so much, he even copied it to mirror the hegemony of the brotherhood. He saw its system of recruitment based not on it high command but by its legionary encadrement, the centurionate. The Roman centurions, long service unit leaders drawn from the best of the enlisted ranks, formed the first body of profssioal fighting officers. It was they and not as to claim external forces that imbued the legions with the backbone and transmitted from generations to generations the code of discipline, conduct and accumulated store of skills-at-arms that allowed the Roman arms to be successfully carried against hundred of enemies over 5 centuries.”</p>
<p>Let me see what did you do perm sec? You trawled through what Darkness once wrote in the Intelligent Singaporean about the how real &#8220;elites&#8221; perpetuate their class politics. </p>
<p>Then you superimpose all this into a response to the question that I asked.</p>
<p>Did Darkness say all these things? Yes, he did Perm Sec. Was it unanimously agreed by all us? Yes, including myself. Were there any qualifications? No. </p>
<p>He said what he said and ALL agreed to it, the matter is really cut and dried. </p>
<p>So what are my options now Perm Sec? Let me see, if I even try to negotiate around this or even attempt to 鸡蛋里挑骨头 on what you have so meticulously commented on what Darkness once wrote; then who am I really fighting? </p>
<p>Do you see my problem?</p>
<p>And since what you forwarded is just the tip of the iceberg on the whole thesis; if I am silly enough to lay siege to it; all you would have to do is throw out more of what Darkness once wrote about this whole matter; so where does that really leave me? </p>
<p>Let me see. My supply lines will dry up; I don’t even have any reserves to mount a counter attack and given enough time, I’ve probably be encircled; the best I can hope for is a Verdun; a battle of attrition with no prospects of a break out. </p>
<p>Brilliant&#8230;&#8230;.very smart.</p>
<p>No my friend. It is clear. I never step into a place where I cannot walk out off. There is no ego, no pride even. </p>
<p>I concede the point. </p>
<p>This matter is closed as far as I concerned, its over &#8211; we have run out of road my friend.</p>
<p>SD (Internet Liaison officer of the brotherhood)</p>
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