Comments on: Letters to TOC (Jan 05) http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/letters-to-toc-jan-05/ Singapore's #1 Socio-Political Site Fri, 25 May 2012 04:31:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: thinkhard http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/letters-to-toc-jan-05/comment-page-1/#comment-43961 thinkhard Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:01:03 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=4710#comment-43961 There may be other factors in Renci investigation and NKF. These organisation pose a threat to the Lee family with their influence and wealth. They need to bring their own people to rein in control... they just need to find a good reason... Wonder if any investigation into the Familee businesses would reveal anything ? Shares bought by wife/relative before public announcements of government polices.... There may be other factors in Renci investigation and NKF. These organisation pose a threat to the Lee family with their influence and wealth. They need to bring their own people to rein in control… they just need to find a good reason…

Wonder if any investigation into the Familee businesses would reveal anything ? Shares bought by wife/relative before public announcements of government polices….

]]> By: me http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/letters-to-toc-jan-05/comment-page-1/#comment-43674 me Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:19:39 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=4710#comment-43674 but singapore today is so bad, its no joke already... but singapore today is so bad, its no joke already…

]]> By: Daniel http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/letters-to-toc-jan-05/comment-page-1/#comment-43670 Daniel Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:10:35 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=4710#comment-43670 "or should I say what could possibly happen if there is a similar case like TW chen shui pien happening in Singapore, where the truth is out." I almost laugh ! If a RenCi and NKF can be blindly trusted and con the people, how about the biggest corporation of Singapore that shroud in secrecy and intransparency with government running it ? Isn't RenCi and NKF receive support from gov official too ? Doesn't that tell anyone something ? Come on... citizen shouldn't be that naive anymore. When something that is too good to be true, it probably is... “or should I say what could possibly happen if there is a similar case like TW chen shui pien happening in Singapore, where the truth is out.”

I almost laugh ! If a RenCi and NKF can be blindly trusted and con the people, how about the biggest corporation of Singapore that shroud in secrecy and intransparency with government running it ? Isn’t RenCi and NKF receive support from gov official too ? Doesn’t that tell anyone something ?

Come on… citizen shouldn’t be that naive anymore. When something that is too good to be true, it probably is…

]]> By: Daniel http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/letters-to-toc-jan-05/comment-page-1/#comment-43668 Daniel Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:05:32 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=4710#comment-43668 "http://www.mof.gov.sg/budget_2008/revenue_expenditure/attachment/Revenue_Estimates.pdf" The question is do you still believe those clowns ? “http://www.mof.gov.sg/budget_2008/revenue_expenditure/attachment/Revenue_Estimates.pdf”

The question is do you still believe those clowns ?

]]> By: Daniel http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/letters-to-toc-jan-05/comment-page-1/#comment-43665 Daniel Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:03:33 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=4710#comment-43665 People are joking me when they said it takes 50 years or 30 years to dig out the truth. Let me tell you, the truth will never be digged out. Just like Chen ShuiBian, once the despondent regime feel threaten and almost desperate, they will start burning all the transaction, accounting information, place account anonymously oversea using relatives. If convicted, they will say Singapore is a place of law (albeit kangaroo law) and ask for evidence before evict. Why do you thing Chen ShuiBian can still get away ? The answer is because the clown keep the transaction of every amount of bribe money given to his coffers to protect himself. If he been evicted so is his kangaroo parliament and coffers. If you want to understand how our system works, look no further than Chen ShuiBian. Ironically the gov keep publicise the corruption of Chen ShuiBian, but it is actually educating the citizen of how Corruption can be coveruped and get away easily ! We are actually worse off than Taiwan because our parliament and government are just one big groupthink and no one can even touch them at all, and they are allow to change the law as they please and as they like. How amazing and uniquely Singapore is ! Long live the dynasty ! People are joking me when they said it takes 50 years or 30 years to dig out the truth. Let me tell you, the truth will never be digged out. Just like Chen ShuiBian, once the despondent regime feel threaten and almost desperate, they will start burning all the transaction, accounting information, place account anonymously oversea using relatives. If convicted, they will say Singapore is a place of law (albeit kangaroo law) and ask for evidence before evict. Why do you thing Chen ShuiBian can still get away ? The answer is because the clown keep the transaction of every amount of bribe money given to his coffers to protect himself. If he been evicted so is his kangaroo parliament and coffers.

If you want to understand how our system works, look no further than Chen ShuiBian. Ironically the gov keep publicise the corruption of Chen ShuiBian, but it is actually educating the citizen of how Corruption can be coveruped and get away easily !

We are actually worse off than Taiwan because our parliament and government are just one big groupthink and no one can even touch them at all, and they are allow to change the law as they please and as they like. How amazing and uniquely Singapore is ! Long live the dynasty !

]]> By: sam teng http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/letters-to-toc-jan-05/comment-page-1/#comment-43658 sam teng Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:39:54 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=4710#comment-43658 IF its gonna take 50 years to dig up all the things, is it not even more good reason to start it now? wait and wait longer ? that will mean more than 50 years to dig it all up? TW on-going soap opera 'blue-green spider web' is interesting in that it reveals what is possible, as HP said, anything is possible. but then no body cares. i wonder if any of u got my message? IF
its gonna take 50 years to dig up all the things,
is it not even more good reason to start it now?
wait and wait longer ?
that will mean more than 50 years to dig it all up?
TW on-going soap opera ‘blue-green spider web’
is interesting in that it reveals what is possible,
as HP said, anything is possible.
but then no body cares.

i wonder if any of u got my message?

]]> By: sarek_home http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/letters-to-toc-jan-05/comment-page-1/#comment-43623 sarek_home Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:39:13 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=4710#comment-43623 You guys can check out the transport related revenue here: http://www.mof.gov.sg/budget_2008/revenue_expenditure/attachment/Revenue_Estimates.pdf Don't have ERP in 2008. Wonder if there is going to be one entry on ERP in 2009. You guys can check out the transport related revenue here:

http://www.mof.gov.sg/budget_2008/revenue_expenditure/attachment/Revenue_Estimates.pdf

Don’t have ERP in 2008. Wonder if there is going to be one entry on ERP in 2009.

]]> By: tiredsingaporean http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/letters-to-toc-jan-05/comment-page-1/#comment-43611 tiredsingaporean Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:36:03 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=4710#comment-43611 A very good question indeed. Where have all those $millions ERP collections goes to? or course into those oversized pockets of those who implemented the system lah, bodoh! politics, do you know what politics is all about? its all about money and how to go about generating alot of $$$ from the taxpayers into those oversized pocket of those greedy people who called themselves world class elites. You think they will tell you the truth where these $$$ goes to? or should I say what could possibly happen if there is a similar case like TW chen shui pien happening in Singapore, where the truth is out. A very good question indeed. Where have all those $millions ERP collections goes to? or course into those oversized pockets of those who implemented the system lah, bodoh! politics, do you know what politics is all about? its all about money and how to go about generating alot of $$$ from the taxpayers into those oversized pocket of those greedy people who called themselves world class elites. You think they will tell you the truth where these $$$ goes to? or should I say what could possibly happen if there is a similar case like TW chen shui pien happening in Singapore, where the truth is out.

]]> By: Daniel http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/letters-to-toc-jan-05/comment-page-1/#comment-43604 Daniel Mon, 05 Jan 2009 12:56:00 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=4710#comment-43604 Money go to ? Need we ask ? To feed the Lee dynasty, what else will the money go to. Why do you think the Lee dynasty want to maintain secrecy and intransparency ? Don't blame the Lee dynasty because Singaporean just cannot handle the brutal truth... Why do you think the ex-president Ong express his dissatisfaction with accountancy discrepency with the government ? Anyway, we should feel proud because we have unlimited number of Chen ShuiBian in our government which we are not allowed to investigated. If want to investigate, have to ask Singapore's Chen ShuiBian for permission ! Ironic ? Money go to ? Need we ask ? To feed the Lee dynasty, what else will the money go to. Why do you think the Lee dynasty want to maintain secrecy and intransparency ? Don’t blame the Lee dynasty because Singaporean just cannot handle the brutal truth… Why do you think the ex-president Ong express his dissatisfaction with accountancy discrepency with the government ?
Anyway, we should feel proud because we have unlimited number of Chen ShuiBian in our government which we are not allowed to investigated. If want to investigate, have to ask Singapore’s Chen ShuiBian for permission ! Ironic ?

]]> By: moshedyan http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/letters-to-toc-jan-05/comment-page-1/#comment-43597 moshedyan Mon, 05 Jan 2009 12:18:38 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=4710#comment-43597 [i]There have been rumours that Malaysian registered motorcycles will not be allowed into Singapore. If this is a way of controlling the huge amount of Malaysian motorcycles that are on Singapore roads, it certainly does not work. The number of Malaysian workers coming into Singapore far out-number the available motorcycle COEs. Foong SK[/i] noped lta is more cunnin than you can think its says heck you can ride your malaysian registered bike into singapore to work just pay us lta $400 (yes $four hundred singapore dollar$) per month in terms of permits/roadtax.... failure to do so will get your vehiucle immobilised and you had to attend night court to have your vehicle release........... how many of you ever seen malaysian registered vehicles being WHEELCLAMPED in public carpark lot including those hidden in ulu ulu industrial parks? you would be surprised now you know why motorcycles COEs have risen 5 folds before this law was implement the motorcycle COE was just $1 nia... i used to change bike everytime my roadtax expired.... [i]There have been rumours that Malaysian registered motorcycles will not be allowed into Singapore. If this is a way of controlling the huge amount of Malaysian motorcycles that are on Singapore roads, it certainly does not work. The number of Malaysian workers coming into Singapore far out-number the available motorcycle COEs.

Foong SK[/i]
noped lta is more cunnin than you can think
its says
heck you can ride your malaysian registered bike into singapore to work
just pay us lta $400 (yes $four hundred singapore dollar$) per month
in terms of permits/roadtax….
failure to do so
will get your vehiucle immobilised
and you had to attend night court
to have your vehicle release………..
how many of you ever seen malaysian registered vehicles being WHEELCLAMPED in public carpark lot including those hidden in ulu ulu industrial parks?
you would be surprised
now you know why motorcycles COEs have risen 5 folds
before this law was implement
the motorcycle COE was just $1 nia…
i used to change bike everytime my roadtax expired….

]]> By: ling dong looonged http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/letters-to-toc-jan-05/comment-page-1/#comment-43556 ling dong looonged Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:45:50 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=4710#comment-43556 All Public Policies be it by Civil service or Private sector (eg. public transport) should be clear for the people. If one day people mostly do not know how it works, then I feel that I should feel worried. Make it clear for all. then maybe less people complain. Inability to make policies clear, if ever, is not appropriate in my view. Fortunately, I get to learn a lot of public policies from TOC. pop quizz for today: 1. what does 'not directly related to oil price' really mean? just by reading from the newspaper this sentence, I see that many of my friends also no no what the ... it means. can easily make a few guesses. But that is not the right way. public issues are serious issues at times, we should know exactly what it means. All Public Policies be it by Civil service or Private sector (eg. public transport)
should be clear for the people.

If one day people mostly do not know how it works, then I feel that I should feel worried.

Make it clear for all. then maybe less people complain.
Inability to make policies clear, if ever, is not appropriate in my view.

Fortunately, I get to learn a lot of public policies from TOC.

pop quizz for today:
1. what does ‘not directly related to oil price’ really mean? just by reading from the newspaper this sentence, I see that many of my friends also no no what the … it means. can easily make a few guesses. But that is not the right way. public issues are serious issues at times, we should know exactly what it means.

]]> By: ching cheoing lan http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/letters-to-toc-jan-05/comment-page-1/#comment-43552 ching cheoing lan Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:34:50 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=4710#comment-43552 Its time many of our doubts get Clarified with TOC help. oh no!! I am scared!!! PEOPLE are beginning to QUESTION... issues of public interest....that means affecting you and me.... oh no!!! what a change! its beginning to change!!! but i still live in comfort zone......please don't wake me up!!! oh no!!!! i wish to remain apathetic and contented with status quo!!! lets move on lah..... got so many people's representatives wor. they represent who? the people right? right ? i mean am i right???? i must right? erm, can you confirm me is right? Its time many of our doubts get Clarified with TOC help.

oh no!! I am scared!!! PEOPLE are beginning to QUESTION…
issues of public interest….that means affecting you and me….

oh no!!! what a change! its beginning to change!!!

but i still live in comfort zone……please don’t wake me up!!!

oh no!!!! i wish to remain apathetic and contented with status quo!!!

lets move on lah….. got so many people’s representatives wor. they represent who? the people right? right ? i mean am i right???? i must right? erm, can you confirm me is right?

]]> By: Curious http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/letters-to-toc-jan-05/comment-page-1/#comment-43547 Curious Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:22:25 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=4710#comment-43547 Where does the sizeable income generated from the ERP currently go to? Yes, Indeed at my pocket. How on earth we have to earn Million of Dollars. This is the current PAP A-TEAM in gov. They have to show transparency. Where is this money go. Where does the sizeable income generated from the ERP currently go to?

Yes, Indeed at my pocket.
How on earth we have to earn Million of Dollars.
This is the current PAP A-TEAM in gov.

They have to show transparency.
Where is this money go.

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