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	<title>Comments on: Response to Media Queries on Arrests of Two Singaporeans who Staged a Protest in MOM</title>
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		<title>By: Open your eyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Open your eyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TOC???- yur kind of mentality needs to be changed!!! Causing trouble- who exactly is causing trouble....you shudnt be posting anythg here cos effectively ure not entitled to an opinion-which is wat you are advocating, by championing the actions of the authority against the two local protestors!! 

They stood there and caused no harm-why is a state so stable fearful of words...because these words uncover the bullshit the governement is feeding!!!
one day when ure life is fed to the sharks with no proper justification will you realise the worth of what the two locals are doing...ud wish someone stood up for you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TOC???- yur kind of mentality needs to be changed!!! Causing trouble- who exactly is causing trouble&#8230;.you shudnt be posting anythg here cos effectively ure not entitled to an opinion-which is wat you are advocating, by championing the actions of the authority against the two local protestors!! </p>
<p>They stood there and caused no harm-why is a state so stable fearful of words&#8230;because these words uncover the bullshit the governement is feeding!!!<br />
one day when ure life is fed to the sharks with no proper justification will you realise the worth of what the two locals are doing&#8230;ud wish someone stood up for you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Open your eyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Open your eyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sing-guilt&quot;-so true!! BUT Im really glad seeing all these comments...im really offended by the disregard many sporeans portray or actually the fear, i was thrilled the guys did what they did but truly am scared for them cos they are definitely going to be blacklisted!!
i mean capitalism and growth is one thing...we have done well as a multi racial and harmonious society...are we the PEOPLE scared of democracy or is it the POWER relations, the fear of not bein privileged or dominant...of having arbitrary control...the govt should trust us to treat each other humanely and should start valuing us as human and stop bludgeoning us wit its iron fist!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sing-guilt&#8221;-so true!! BUT Im really glad seeing all these comments&#8230;im really offended by the disregard many sporeans portray or actually the fear, i was thrilled the guys did what they did but truly am scared for them cos they are definitely going to be blacklisted!!<br />
i mean capitalism and growth is one thing&#8230;we have done well as a multi racial and harmonious society&#8230;are we the PEOPLE scared of democracy or is it the POWER relations, the fear of not bein privileged or dominant&#8230;of having arbitrary control&#8230;the govt should trust us to treat each other humanely and should start valuing us as human and stop bludgeoning us wit its iron fist!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: gemami</title>
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		<dc:creator>gemami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 01:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I think #36) 2cent, hit the nail in its head when he commented &quot;&lt;i&gt;Those poor souls just &lt;b&gt;react&lt;/b&gt; to tragic oppression &lt;/i&gt;&quot;.

Indeed, if we are to go back to the infamous Saffron March, we would realise that the level of concern shown around the world identified the gravity of the situation.

Over in Singapore, we have a group of Burmese, concerned for their country, their friends, their relatives, their families and even their faith showing support to calls for the Military Junta to handle the situation with care and sensitivity. What they did was to &lt;b&gt;react&lt;/b&gt; to the sudden developments in their country which was a concern to them.

The question here is this; is it wrong for them to speak up and show concern for the political developments in their own country from wherever they are in the world, whether China or India or US or Singapore? Could not this show of concern be seen as a patriotic concern and love for the country?

I believe the problem of the treatment they are receiving from our SG govt is very much related to the manner in which the PAP govt views protest carried out by  concerned citizens - that they are nothing but trouble makers. 

For this episode, I believe it has done wrong to view these concerned and patriotic Burmese nationals as trouble-makers; the same manner it has viewed oppositions in Singapore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I think #36) 2cent, hit the nail in its head when he commented &#8220;<i>Those poor souls just <b>react</b> to tragic oppression </i>&#8220;.</p>
<p>Indeed, if we are to go back to the infamous Saffron March, we would realise that the level of concern shown around the world identified the gravity of the situation.</p>
<p>Over in Singapore, we have a group of Burmese, concerned for their country, their friends, their relatives, their families and even their faith showing support to calls for the Military Junta to handle the situation with care and sensitivity. What they did was to <b>react</b> to the sudden developments in their country which was a concern to them.</p>
<p>The question here is this; is it wrong for them to speak up and show concern for the political developments in their own country from wherever they are in the world, whether China or India or US or Singapore? Could not this show of concern be seen as a patriotic concern and love for the country?</p>
<p>I believe the problem of the treatment they are receiving from our SG govt is very much related to the manner in which the PAP govt views protest carried out by  concerned citizens &#8211; that they are nothing but trouble makers. </p>
<p>For this episode, I believe it has done wrong to view these concerned and patriotic Burmese nationals as trouble-makers; the same manner it has viewed oppositions in Singapore.</p>
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		<title>By: 2cent</title>
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		<dc:creator>2cent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To TOC??? 

What u talk about them come here use Singapore for political agenda?  U got info say they know each other and plot political agenda n come?

Those poor souls just react to tragic oppression in their country.  Don&#039;t so bad say they got political agenda, please lar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To TOC??? </p>
<p>What u talk about them come here use Singapore for political agenda?  U got info say they know each other and plot political agenda n come?</p>
<p>Those poor souls just react to tragic oppression in their country.  Don&#8217;t so bad say they got political agenda, please lar.</p>
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		<title>By: TOC???</title>
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		<dc:creator>TOC???</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 2 self-righteous hypocrites who had protested in MOM should simply go to Burma and make their protest know to the junta...no point hiding behind the safety net offered by Singapore and talk &quot;cock&quot; like sing song, then put Singapore in a bad light as though we ill-treat these Burmese who were here with their own political agenda and to stir shit!

Singapore should not become a platform for these idiotic foreigners...the Singapore government did the right thing to expel them...in fact, more should be expeled so as to send a strong message to those idiotic foreigners not to come here and use Singapore as their base for their political agenda!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 2 self-righteous hypocrites who had protested in MOM should simply go to Burma and make their protest know to the junta&#8230;no point hiding behind the safety net offered by Singapore and talk &#8220;cock&#8221; like sing song, then put Singapore in a bad light as though we ill-treat these Burmese who were here with their own political agenda and to stir shit!</p>
<p>Singapore should not become a platform for these idiotic foreigners&#8230;the Singapore government did the right thing to expel them&#8230;in fact, more should be expeled so as to send a strong message to those idiotic foreigners not to come here and use Singapore as their base for their political agenda!!!</p>
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		<title>By: gemami</title>
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		<dc:creator>gemami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#25) Mr Toastbox,

Do you think we care what names one can think up to attach a label on another? This is what this PAP govt is good at doing. If there is an label that I can come up with that goes to describe this govt in relation to the question you asked, it will be this:

&quot;How many in PAP is suffering from Sin &amp; Guilt?&quot;

Shame on you, you ought to be asking if this govt has any shame at all for all the sins commited by them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#25) Mr Toastbox,</p>
<p>Do you think we care what names one can think up to attach a label on another? This is what this PAP govt is good at doing. If there is an label that I can come up with that goes to describe this govt in relation to the question you asked, it will be this:</p>
<p>&#8220;How many in PAP is suffering from Sin &amp; Guilt?&#8221;</p>
<p>Shame on you, you ought to be asking if this govt has any shame at all for all the sins commited by them.</p>
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		<title>By: lobo76</title>
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		<dc:creator>lobo76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the chinamen are backed by their country if anything happens to them. The 2 Singaporeans are not backed up by anyone, so ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the chinamen are backed by their country if anything happens to them. The 2 Singaporeans are not backed up by anyone, so &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: smallvice585</title>
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		<dc:creator>smallvice585</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what &quot;&lt;i&gt;We similarly expect no less of Singaporeans when they go overseas and live in other countries.&lt;/i&gt;&quot; in Point (2) means. Does the government expect overseas Singaporeans to follow Singapore laws abroad when it comes to expressing political views on Singapore? LOL...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what &#8220;<i>We similarly expect no less of Singaporeans when they go overseas and live in other countries.</i>&#8221; in Point (2) means. Does the government expect overseas Singaporeans to follow Singapore laws abroad when it comes to expressing political views on Singapore? LOL&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Unworthy Singaporeans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unworthy Singaporeans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Doubt that shows what Singaporeans are Worth as compared to even the lower skilled Foreign Talent</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Doubt that shows what Singaporeans are Worth as compared to even the lower skilled Foreign Talent</p>
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		<title>By: parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLEASE DO NOT CALL THE TWO DEMONSTRATORS &#039;TROUBLE MAKERS&#039;.

patriot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLEASE DO NOT CALL THE TWO DEMONSTRATORS &#8216;TROUBLE MAKERS&#8217;.</p>
<p>patriot</p>
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		<title>By: ashamed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ashamed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is only so much that one that twist and tweak logic, and I think the ministers and judges had way pass this limit.

When thy issue wide blanket statements covering the issues of right of protest, film acts etc, the common reaction is that how will they be implemented?   They are not implementable without the risk of being perceived as being subjective and selective.  In virtually all democratic countries these laws would never be passed, let alone laws that appear to contradict the constitutions.  All this summation of twisting and tweaking simply ends corrupting our entire nation - twisted logic of the HDB, laughing stock court cases, judges not being able to act justly, police and other state machinery being used for unproductive activites, the elites asking for stratospheric pay packages, the list goes on.

Look at our flags, listen to our pledge, how far have we, as a nation, deviated from the true spirit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is only so much that one that twist and tweak logic, and I think the ministers and judges had way pass this limit.</p>
<p>When thy issue wide blanket statements covering the issues of right of protest, film acts etc, the common reaction is that how will they be implemented?   They are not implementable without the risk of being perceived as being subjective and selective.  In virtually all democratic countries these laws would never be passed, let alone laws that appear to contradict the constitutions.  All this summation of twisting and tweaking simply ends corrupting our entire nation &#8211; twisted logic of the HDB, laughing stock court cases, judges not being able to act justly, police and other state machinery being used for unproductive activites, the elites asking for stratospheric pay packages, the list goes on.</p>
<p>Look at our flags, listen to our pledge, how far have we, as a nation, deviated from the true spirit?</p>
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		<title>By: Loyola</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loyola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A damn joke and a damn shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A damn joke and a damn shame.</p>
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		<title>By: tiredsingaporean</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiredsingaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>26) Anonymous on January 13th, 2009 5.53 pm
It is not uncommon that the prosecution will change the charges in court to find an appropriate way to fix the trouble makers. This is of course with the permission of the judge. It may therefore not be a case of “criminal traspassing” when this is heard in court.

In Singapore court, they can charge you anything they want, whether law or not, they will come out with new ones to charge you. Who is the law here? every singaporeans know that too well. The law here is made to protect only 1 man who made it a law here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>26) Anonymous on January 13th, 2009 5.53 pm<br />
It is not uncommon that the prosecution will change the charges in court to find an appropriate way to fix the trouble makers. This is of course with the permission of the judge. It may therefore not be a case of “criminal traspassing” when this is heard in court.</p>
<p>In Singapore court, they can charge you anything they want, whether law or not, they will come out with new ones to charge you. Who is the law here? every singaporeans know that too well. The law here is made to protect only 1 man who made it a law here.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not uncommon that the prosecution will change the charges in court to find an appropriate way to fix the trouble makers. This is of course with the permission of the judge. It may therefore not be a case of &quot;criminal traspassing&quot; when this is heard in court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not uncommon that the prosecution will change the charges in court to find an appropriate way to fix the trouble makers. This is of course with the permission of the judge. It may therefore not be a case of &#8220;criminal traspassing&#8221; when this is heard in court.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Toastbox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Toastbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think about it. How many of you reading this suffer from Sing-guilt?

http://unbrandedbreadnbutter.wordpress.com/2009/01/13/sing-guilt-and-two-less-transient-workers-to-count/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think about it. How many of you reading this suffer from Sing-guilt?</p>
<p><a href="http://unbrandedbreadnbutter.wordpress.com/2009/01/13/sing-guilt-and-two-less-transient-workers-to-count/" rel="nofollow">http://unbrandedbreadnbutter.wordpress.com/2009/01/13/sing-guilt-and-two-less-transient-workers-to-count/</a></p>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We always have a question why our mini-stars earn extremely  high salary.
Now, i got the answer. They are paid too well just to publish such a lousy JOINT statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We always have a question why our mini-stars earn extremely  high salary.<br />
Now, i got the answer. They are paid too well just to publish such a lousy JOINT statement.</p>
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		<title>By: ihatepoliticians</title>
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		<dc:creator>ihatepoliticians</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear ministry of home affairs and ministry of manpower, I have three words for you: You&#039;re a joke!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear ministry of home affairs and ministry of manpower, I have three words for you: You&#8217;re a joke!</p>
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		<title>By: X</title>
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		<dc:creator>X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As always, double standards.

Tells you very much about how world-class our government is when it comes to democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, double standards.</p>
<p>Tells you very much about how world-class our government is when it comes to democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: FARCICAL</title>
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		<dc:creator>FARCICAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diplomatic expediency or political expediency...
demonstration by  any number of foreigners on issues other than political ...close 2 eyes... especailly the chinese nationals  law not broken. For locals even 2 can be considered illegal assembly if they want to charge but r trespassing looks more
reasonable. ...it took the whole police force to come for 2 concerned human right activist citizens</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diplomatic expediency or political expediency&#8230;<br />
demonstration by  any number of foreigners on issues other than political &#8230;close 2 eyes&#8230; especailly the chinese nationals  law not broken. For locals even 2 can be considered illegal assembly if they want to charge but r trespassing looks more<br />
reasonable. &#8230;it took the whole police force to come for 2 concerned human right activist citizens</p>
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		<title>By: alky</title>
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		<dc:creator>alky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>200 foreign workers very expensive to feed and repatriate. Also cannot induce the fear effect on peasants if they are arrested.

2 Singaporeans easy to arrest and prosecute. Can induce fear among the peasants to prevent them from protesting in future.  Elites even take effort to release a joint statement.

I wonder if 200 or 2000 unemployed Singaporeans stood in front of MOM with their protest signs. What would our dear elites do then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>200 foreign workers very expensive to feed and repatriate. Also cannot induce the fear effect on peasants if they are arrested.</p>
<p>2 Singaporeans easy to arrest and prosecute. Can induce fear among the peasants to prevent them from protesting in future.  Elites even take effort to release a joint statement.</p>
<p>I wonder if 200 or 2000 unemployed Singaporeans stood in front of MOM with their protest signs. What would our dear elites do then?</p>
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