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		<title>By: nat</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/singapore-expunged-bit-by-bit/comment-page-1/#comment-246886</link>
		<dc:creator>nat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my sentiments exactly.
love your writing by the way. thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my sentiments exactly.<br />
love your writing by the way. thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: puteh</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/singapore-expunged-bit-by-bit/comment-page-1/#comment-176265</link>
		<dc:creator>puteh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 05:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know what the colonial-like building on the corner of Jln Kayu was ? It is now Chatsworth Kindy - but it must have been something, at sometime.
Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know what the colonial-like building on the corner of Jln Kayu was ? It is now Chatsworth Kindy &#8211; but it must have been something, at sometime.<br />
Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Culture</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/singapore-expunged-bit-by-bit/comment-page-1/#comment-159323</link>
		<dc:creator>Culture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys got it all wrong, we are country and culture in the making. Cities will be very dense so we are ahead of the curve on that. So are not losing. We are in continuous invention. 

The Singaporeans of the future need not trace their beginnings to us ... it is this new migrants that will be Singapore.

You guys are short on knowledge/ history and the making of nations and too conceited to think you and your offsprings are the rightful  Singaporeans of the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys got it all wrong, we are country and culture in the making. Cities will be very dense so we are ahead of the curve on that. So are not losing. We are in continuous invention. </p>
<p>The Singaporeans of the future need not trace their beginnings to us &#8230; it is this new migrants that will be Singapore.</p>
<p>You guys are short on knowledge/ history and the making of nations and too conceited to think you and your offsprings are the rightful  Singaporeans of the future.</p>
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		<title>By: SD</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/singapore-expunged-bit-by-bit/comment-page-1/#comment-70140</link>
		<dc:creator>SD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 12:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please visit a Flickr group named Seletar Dreams where a number of people, Singaporeans as well as a former British resident, contributed photos of this wonderful place.

URL is http://www.flickr.com/groups/seletardreams/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please visit a Flickr group named Seletar Dreams where a number of people, Singaporeans as well as a former British resident, contributed photos of this wonderful place.</p>
<p>URL is <a href="http://www.flickr.com/groups/seletardreams/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/groups/seletardreams/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cast your votes for the best article/report on TOC : The Online Citizen - a community of singaporeans</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 03:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Singapore expunged - bit by bit – Ng Beng Choo [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Peter Sellers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Sellers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can and we MUST argue against it. 

We must stop worshiping at the alter of the false god of GDP growth. The myth of &#039;growth at all costs&#039; has been created by the leadership (along with other myths) to feed its collective ego, disregarding the cost to the country. To say that  &#039;in 10 years our GDP will be comparable to those of  Italy and Australia&#039; is laughable. Singapore is the size of a large city in those countries. We neither have the space nor the people or the depth of history to sustain an economy of that size; neither do we have a friendly hinterland as Hong Kong does.

The quality of life is suffering. Our transport policy has been a failure, witness the congestion on the roads. Jobs appear to be created for foreigners, causing social disharmony. In  the meantime, Singaporeans are quietly leaving the country (the figures are never revealed).

Growth at all costs is a formula for disaster. The population has already doubled in the past 30 years and is projected to increase by another third in the next 30. The effect on the quality of life can only be imagined. Memories of Seletar airbase and other idyllic places in Singapore will remain just those - distant memories.

The only solution is to de-link civil service and ministerial salaries from GDP growth. Focus on higher value added &#039;brain-work&#039; and forget the casinos (let the Gentings of the world have those). It is already late. The mangrove forests of Punggol and Kranji have disappeared. Thanks to the foresight of 19th century colonial civil servants, at least we have the central catchments.

Save what remains and salvage our quality of life. Stop &#039;growth at all costs&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can and we MUST argue against it. </p>
<p>We must stop worshiping at the alter of the false god of GDP growth. The myth of &#8216;growth at all costs&#8217; has been created by the leadership (along with other myths) to feed its collective ego, disregarding the cost to the country. To say that  &#8216;in 10 years our GDP will be comparable to those of  Italy and Australia&#8217; is laughable. Singapore is the size of a large city in those countries. We neither have the space nor the people or the depth of history to sustain an economy of that size; neither do we have a friendly hinterland as Hong Kong does.</p>
<p>The quality of life is suffering. Our transport policy has been a failure, witness the congestion on the roads. Jobs appear to be created for foreigners, causing social disharmony. In  the meantime, Singaporeans are quietly leaving the country (the figures are never revealed).</p>
<p>Growth at all costs is a formula for disaster. The population has already doubled in the past 30 years and is projected to increase by another third in the next 30. The effect on the quality of life can only be imagined. Memories of Seletar airbase and other idyllic places in Singapore will remain just those &#8211; distant memories.</p>
<p>The only solution is to de-link civil service and ministerial salaries from GDP growth. Focus on higher value added &#8216;brain-work&#8217; and forget the casinos (let the Gentings of the world have those). It is already late. The mangrove forests of Punggol and Kranji have disappeared. Thanks to the foresight of 19th century colonial civil servants, at least we have the central catchments.</p>
<p>Save what remains and salvage our quality of life. Stop &#8216;growth at all costs&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sadder</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/singapore-expunged-bit-by-bit/comment-page-1/#comment-43464</link>
		<dc:creator>Sadder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expunged...slowly but surely we are seeing everything which the old man cannot claim as his legacy being expunged. Now we the native singaporeans are also being expunged..replaced by grateful foriegners who will worship the old man and his legacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expunged&#8230;slowly but surely we are seeing everything which the old man cannot claim as his legacy being expunged. Now we the native singaporeans are also being expunged..replaced by grateful foriegners who will worship the old man and his legacy.</p>
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		<title>By: tiredsingaporean</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiredsingaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 15:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah! they are always changing everything everywhere except themselves, why don&#039;t they just made themselves disappeared one day (I pray very hard everyday)instead of still clinging unto their power and making the people to suffer more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah! they are always changing everything everywhere except themselves, why don&#8217;t they just made themselves disappeared one day (I pray very hard everyday)instead of still clinging unto their power and making the people to suffer more.</p>
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		<title>By: C</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/singapore-expunged-bit-by-bit/comment-page-1/#comment-43413</link>
		<dc:creator>C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 15:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Twasher:

I had a brilliant friend who migrated to Australia for precisely that reason. All the places he loved, that were inextricably linked to his memories and personal history, had been &quot;expunged&quot;. 

People form attachments to places, places that are significant in their lives. When those places are gone and changed forever, it&#039;s bewildering - nothing is familiar any more. You no longer have &quot;roots&quot;. What remains familiar become *people*  - your family, your relatives, and your friends. And as they move away from this country (yes, all of you have friends who have left Singapore for all kinds of reasons - marriage, career etc.) you find yourself less and less anchored to this country.

Imagine a Singapore that , every few years, *completely* changes the way it looks. You land in the middle of the country and have to learn everything over again - everything is new. You might as well be in another country! Think about it!

And so you uproot your family and move somewhere else because Singapore feels like such an unfamiliar place anyway. You don&#039;t recognise anything, so you feel no ties to this LAND. 

The National Library is gone - my student days were spent there. My old school is gone, moved to new premises. The place I had my wedding at is gone. My first house in Singapore is gone. The jetty where I used to go crabbing is gone.

As my friend said, when he moved to Australia: &quot;This church near my home is 200 years old, and I know it will be still here 200 years from now and you know what? That&#039;s a really really comforting thought.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Twasher:</p>
<p>I had a brilliant friend who migrated to Australia for precisely that reason. All the places he loved, that were inextricably linked to his memories and personal history, had been &#8220;expunged&#8221;. </p>
<p>People form attachments to places, places that are significant in their lives. When those places are gone and changed forever, it&#8217;s bewildering &#8211; nothing is familiar any more. You no longer have &#8220;roots&#8221;. What remains familiar become *people*  &#8211; your family, your relatives, and your friends. And as they move away from this country (yes, all of you have friends who have left Singapore for all kinds of reasons &#8211; marriage, career etc.) you find yourself less and less anchored to this country.</p>
<p>Imagine a Singapore that , every few years, *completely* changes the way it looks. You land in the middle of the country and have to learn everything over again &#8211; everything is new. You might as well be in another country! Think about it!</p>
<p>And so you uproot your family and move somewhere else because Singapore feels like such an unfamiliar place anyway. You don&#8217;t recognise anything, so you feel no ties to this LAND. </p>
<p>The National Library is gone &#8211; my student days were spent there. My old school is gone, moved to new premises. The place I had my wedding at is gone. My first house in Singapore is gone. The jetty where I used to go crabbing is gone.</p>
<p>As my friend said, when he moved to Australia: &#8220;This church near my home is 200 years old, and I know it will be still here 200 years from now and you know what? That&#8217;s a really really comforting thought.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: The Joker</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/singapore-expunged-bit-by-bit/comment-page-1/#comment-43369</link>
		<dc:creator>The Joker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 05:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10 000 jobs created? for whom? foreigners? or local?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10 000 jobs created? for whom? foreigners? or local?</p>
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		<title>By: jefj0901</title>
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		<dc:creator>jefj0901</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 04:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasted. It&#039;s a beautiful place, I&#039;ve been there once before then make a turn to Jalan Kayu for prata. So sad its gone. But if its to create  10000 jobs for Singaporeans and foreigners alike..I cannot dispute that. But just hope, it&#039;s not some white elephant hub..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasted. It&#8217;s a beautiful place, I&#8217;ve been there once before then make a turn to Jalan Kayu for prata. So sad its gone. But if its to create  10000 jobs for Singaporeans and foreigners alike..I cannot dispute that. But just hope, it&#8217;s not some white elephant hub..</p>
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		<title>By: tiredsingaporean</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/singapore-expunged-bit-by-bit/comment-page-1/#comment-43302</link>
		<dc:creator>tiredsingaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 14:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, everything here is becoming plastic including the people, just becos of greed, they turning all mother natures into fake plastics, just wait and see what mother nature can do to all those who are responsible, they&#039;ll leave you crying to no end. Remember, whatever goes around, comes around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, everything here is becoming plastic including the people, just becos of greed, they turning all mother natures into fake plastics, just wait and see what mother nature can do to all those who are responsible, they&#8217;ll leave you crying to no end. Remember, whatever goes around, comes around.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Ong (eX.A.K.R.)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Ong (eX.A.K.R.)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 14:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all about the money, isn&#039;t it? As always, in Singapore, when there is financial gain, Mother Nature and the human soul are always slaughtered and sold in exchange for the illusory zero-term benefits of dirty cash, aren&#039;t they?

What thou does money bring? Can money be used as food? Can money help provide real comfort for the human soul in this maddening metropolis? Can it help give us the fresh air we need?

One day, we will all be paying a very dear cost for all of our actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all about the money, isn&#8217;t it? As always, in Singapore, when there is financial gain, Mother Nature and the human soul are always slaughtered and sold in exchange for the illusory zero-term benefits of dirty cash, aren&#8217;t they?</p>
<p>What thou does money bring? Can money be used as food? Can money help provide real comfort for the human soul in this maddening metropolis? Can it help give us the fresh air we need?</p>
<p>One day, we will all be paying a very dear cost for all of our actions.</p>
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		<title>By: talksomuch</title>
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		<dc:creator>talksomuch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 04:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>once govt want to build a world-class what-hub, you can expect good-byes to all the good things that make Singapore Singaporean. Sacrifice: noise pollution from all the construction, the road diversion that reminds one of a third world country, all for what? a mirage. See what happen to the Singapore Flyer and the F! race. They destroyed forests and coastlines like nobody business and nobody bats an eyelid and raise noises. In the end, see what happen to Singapore flyer. Retribution for destroying mother nature in the name of economic prosperity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>once govt want to build a world-class what-hub, you can expect good-byes to all the good things that make Singapore Singaporean. Sacrifice: noise pollution from all the construction, the road diversion that reminds one of a third world country, all for what? a mirage. See what happen to the Singapore Flyer and the F! race. They destroyed forests and coastlines like nobody business and nobody bats an eyelid and raise noises. In the end, see what happen to Singapore flyer. Retribution for destroying mother nature in the name of economic prosperity.</p>
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		<title>By: tiredsingaporean</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiredsingaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>26) The Joker on January 2nd, 2009 8.48 pm 18) saddest on January 1st, 2009 8.39 pm
was when they dug up National library so that cars can go thru a hole and save 5 minutes of travelling time.
When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn?

Oh they&#039;ve learned alot by placing an ERP gantry just right at the end of the tunnel, see how scheming they can be just to trap those cars who enters it unknowingly. A very unscrupolous way of cashing out money from the mootorists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>26) The Joker on January 2nd, 2009 8.48 pm 18) saddest on January 1st, 2009 8.39 pm<br />
was when they dug up National library so that cars can go thru a hole and save 5 minutes of travelling time.<br />
When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn?</p>
<p>Oh they&#8217;ve learned alot by placing an ERP gantry just right at the end of the tunnel, see how scheming they can be just to trap those cars who enters it unknowingly. A very unscrupolous way of cashing out money from the mootorists.</p>
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		<title>By: theonlinecitizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>theonlinecitizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 16:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Former resident (#25),

Thanks for the link to the pictures. Wonderfully taken photos.....

Andrew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Former resident (#25),</p>
<p>Thanks for the link to the pictures. Wonderfully taken photos&#8230;..</p>
<p>Andrew</p>
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		<title>By: really angry</title>
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		<dc:creator>really angry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 16:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why dont they build a hub right on the Istana? It is the most underused and we know who gets to enjoy it most...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why dont they build a hub right on the Istana? It is the most underused and we know who gets to enjoy it most&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: brinjor popsicle</title>
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		<dc:creator>brinjor popsicle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 14:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EXPUNGED!!! ? ???

ex⋅punge   /ɪkˈspʌndʒ/ Show Spelled Pronunciation  [ik-spuhnj] Show IPA Pronunciation  

–verb (used with object), -punged, -pung⋅ing. 1. to strike or blot out; erase; obliterate. 
2. to efface; wipe out or destroy. 

sounds as scary as  Nuclear ?
But i must say, this cannot be lah.
u no believe me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EXPUNGED!!! ? ???</p>
<p>ex⋅punge   /ɪkˈspʌndʒ/ Show Spelled Pronunciation  [ik-spuhnj] Show IPA Pronunciation  </p>
<p>–verb (used with object), -punged, -pung⋅ing. 1. to strike or blot out; erase; obliterate.<br />
2. to efface; wipe out or destroy. </p>
<p>sounds as scary as  Nuclear ?<br />
But i must say, this cannot be lah.<br />
u no believe me?</p>
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		<title>By: The Joker</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Joker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 12:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>18) saddest on	 January 1st, 2009 8.39 pm
was when they dug up National library so that cars can go thru a hole and save 5 minutes of travelling time.
When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn?


I was sad too when the old national library has to go so that they can collect ERP for vehicles to go through the tunnel...And you wonder why singaporeans don&#039;t feel a sense of belonging...here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>18) saddest on	 January 1st, 2009 8.39 pm<br />
was when they dug up National library so that cars can go thru a hole and save 5 minutes of travelling time.<br />
When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn?</p>
<p>I was sad too when the old national library has to go so that they can collect ERP for vehicles to go through the tunnel&#8230;And you wonder why singaporeans don&#8217;t feel a sense of belonging&#8230;here.</p>
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		<title>By: Former resident</title>
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		<dc:creator>Former resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 10:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some photos capturing the airbase are on Flickr
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