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		<title>By: Eric Teng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Teng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TKL, I do not think you are qualified to comment on what the minister had said. You are not that good a speaker yourself. Also when you were in NTUC, you do not treat the staff well nor fair to them You would also sue anyone the same way the PAP do it to others. So keep your comment to yourself and look at the mirror when you try to critize another person. Why don&#039;t you stand for MP election and see where you stand now that Hougang could be available for a by election. I seriously doubt you can win that seat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TKL, I do not think you are qualified to comment on what the minister had said. You are not that good a speaker yourself. Also when you were in NTUC, you do not treat the staff well nor fair to them You would also sue anyone the same way the PAP do it to others. So keep your comment to yourself and look at the mirror when you try to critize another person. Why don&#039;t you stand for MP election and see where you stand now that Hougang could be available for a by election. I seriously doubt you can win that seat.</p>
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		<title>By: Roulette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roulette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: theonlinecitizen</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 07:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ll get our techie guys to look at it. Thanks.</description>
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		<title>By: gazebo's</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 19:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m experiencing a challenge with your rss feed . Don’t know why I am not able to subscribe to it. Is there anybody getting equivalent rss problem? Anyone who is aware of kindly respond. Thanks</description>
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		<title>By: 锦衣卫</title>
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		<dc:creator>锦衣卫</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 15:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if the govt are open to enagaging the citizens it would have at least make speaker corner more vibrant and not make it a white elephants. hong lim park should remain to remind future generations of singapore &quot; the sorrow ground for singapore democracy.&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if the govt are open to enagaging the citizens it would have at least make speaker corner more vibrant and not make it a white elephants. hong lim park should remain to remind future generations of singapore &#8221; the sorrow ground for singapore democracy.&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/02/6226/comment-page-2/#comment-102798</link>
		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yes morality and ethics needs both the INTELLIGENCE to know what is right or wrong AND the HEART to truly feel what is wrong and what is right. As such I cannot tolarate those kepo ppl trying to look good in a pseudo-fairness system</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yes morality and ethics needs both the INTELLIGENCE to know what is right or wrong AND the HEART to truly feel what is wrong and what is right. As such I cannot tolarate those kepo ppl trying to look good in a pseudo-fairness system</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/02/6226/comment-page-2/#comment-102796</link>
		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do not see HIM as a normal person, we see him as a MINISTER - the elite of all elite (since he is greatly paid)

We are not angry at HIM for making the comment, we are angry at a person of his status making such ludricrous comment.

I believe in your ~point of view~ &quot;Respect other people’s views&quot; BUT I also believe in NOT imposing your own view on others.

Willie Martin said &quot;You have no right to impose your moral values on me!&quot; - http://www.israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/The%20Unfree%20%5BA%5D.htm

Anonymous: &quot;He who tries to be moral is a true hypocrite, I am a sinner hence I will not stone you today&quot; 

As such, I hope everyone views are respected :)

Hurray PAP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do not see HIM as a normal person, we see him as a MINISTER &#8211; the elite of all elite (since he is greatly paid)</p>
<p>We are not angry at HIM for making the comment, we are angry at a person of his status making such ludricrous comment.</p>
<p>I believe in your ~point of view~ &#8220;Respect other people’s views&#8221; BUT I also believe in NOT imposing your own view on others.</p>
<p>Willie Martin said &#8220;You have no right to impose your moral values on me!&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://www.israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/The%20Unfree%20%5BA%5D.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/The%20Unfree%20%5BA%5D.htm</a></p>
<p>Anonymous: &#8220;He who tries to be moral is a true hypocrite, I am a sinner hence I will not stone you today&#8221; </p>
<p>As such, I hope everyone views are respected :)</p>
<p>Hurray PAP</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear fellow SinKaporean although I am  a confirmed coward &amp; quitter as I had pack up and left Paradise Island a while back to seek my fortune in England. I must say I had never miss Paradise Island even in my most difficult days in England. I started with nothing other then a few hundred dollar to get started and through hard work and preseverance I now lived very confortabily in Wentworth Estate. We can change our lives if we are prepared to take the risks and take the opportunities that present itself from time to time. God Bless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear fellow SinKaporean although I am  a confirmed coward &amp; quitter as I had pack up and left Paradise Island a while back to seek my fortune in England. I must say I had never miss Paradise Island even in my most difficult days in England. I started with nothing other then a few hundred dollar to get started and through hard work and preseverance I now lived very confortabily in Wentworth Estate. We can change our lives if we are prepared to take the risks and take the opportunities that present itself from time to time. God Bless.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim San</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/02/6226/comment-page-2/#comment-102493</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim San</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Tan,

I agree with you that we should not make personal attacks just because we dislike the suggestions that the minister made.

The crux of the matter as mentioned by some people earlier is that people in general are very disillusioned with the present lot of government ministers.  They have lost respect for them and see them as arrogant and uncaring.  

Ministers are often perceived to &quot;talk down&quot; to us.  It&#039;s often an &quot;I know better than you&quot; type of message that they try to put across.  That probably upsets a lot of people and hence they get personal in their comments.

As for the personal attacks that I have read people write about you, I think you have been unfairly treated but salute you for continuing to stand up for what you believe in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Tan,</p>
<p>I agree with you that we should not make personal attacks just because we dislike the suggestions that the minister made.</p>
<p>The crux of the matter as mentioned by some people earlier is that people in general are very disillusioned with the present lot of government ministers.  They have lost respect for them and see them as arrogant and uncaring.  </p>
<p>Ministers are often perceived to &#8220;talk down&#8221; to us.  It&#8217;s often an &#8220;I know better than you&#8221; type of message that they try to put across.  That probably upsets a lot of people and hence they get personal in their comments.</p>
<p>As for the personal attacks that I have read people write about you, I think you have been unfairly treated but salute you for continuing to stand up for what you believe in.</p>
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		<title>By: mrthinktalk</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 07:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>,...agree... he is not saying must go JB.. he is just alerting us to options..if there are businessmen who want to build and customers who want to go why not??
W are all in a big ship in a stormy stormy sea whether we can pull through remains to be seen. It is too early to blame the captain and crew..wait and see how they pull us through as always... ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>,&#8230;agree&#8230; he is not saying must go JB.. he is just alerting us to options..if there are businessmen who want to build and customers who want to go why not??<br />
W are all in a big ship in a stormy stormy sea whether we can pull through remains to be seen. It is too early to blame the captain and crew..wait and see how they pull us through as always&#8230; &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: btlim</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/02/6226/comment-page-2/#comment-54093</link>
		<dc:creator>btlim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 04:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Khwa Boon Wan is only providing information to the public that they are nursing homes in JB which is much cheaper than those in Singapore.  He is not telling Singaporeans that they must send their parents to nursing homes in JB.  With this knowledge it is up to the individual to decide what he wants to do.  More information is not a bad thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Khwa Boon Wan is only providing information to the public that they are nursing homes in JB which is much cheaper than those in Singapore.  He is not telling Singaporeans that they must send their parents to nursing homes in JB.  With this knowledge it is up to the individual to decide what he wants to do.  More information is not a bad thing.</p>
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		<title>By: ck</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/02/6226/comment-page-2/#comment-54069</link>
		<dc:creator>ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 02:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, I like to point out that the comments on this post so far as been polite and to the point without resorting to rudeness. It just comes to show that most people are not incapable of respectful discussion. They just need to be reminded of that they are ought to be courteous. Thank you TKL for doing just that.

Secondly, there are a quite a number of postings to say that the government has not been responsive to the people and the sediments on the ground. I don&#039;t find myself very old, but as far as I can tell, this is the most responsive government we ever had. It is much better than the government of yesteryears under MM Lee. No disrespect intended, just that time, situation and people have changed. 

Everyone expects changes, but one needs to realize that changes take time and effort. America and the European countries reached where they are now after centuries of struggles and sacrifices of the people for their nation. Our time has not come yet, for we have yet to have opposition leaders with strong values and the necessary charisma. Neither do our people have the strong belief that changes need to be made nor the courage to make the sacrifices. If you do not have a chance to vote because your GRC is walked over, don’t just lament about it. Show your support by donating to the political party of your choice or volunteering in their grassroot work. The Obama campaign is built on millions of small donations that make up a huge war chest for him to win the election.

Lastly, everyone has the right to criticize. But criticism without constructive suggestions to improve or remedy the situation is usually not helpful. We should strive to use this platform to brainstorm ideas so that things can be improved, instead of merely complaining about things and then going away, feeling a false sense of achievement that you have done something about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, I like to point out that the comments on this post so far as been polite and to the point without resorting to rudeness. It just comes to show that most people are not incapable of respectful discussion. They just need to be reminded of that they are ought to be courteous. Thank you TKL for doing just that.</p>
<p>Secondly, there are a quite a number of postings to say that the government has not been responsive to the people and the sediments on the ground. I don&#8217;t find myself very old, but as far as I can tell, this is the most responsive government we ever had. It is much better than the government of yesteryears under MM Lee. No disrespect intended, just that time, situation and people have changed. </p>
<p>Everyone expects changes, but one needs to realize that changes take time and effort. America and the European countries reached where they are now after centuries of struggles and sacrifices of the people for their nation. Our time has not come yet, for we have yet to have opposition leaders with strong values and the necessary charisma. Neither do our people have the strong belief that changes need to be made nor the courage to make the sacrifices. If you do not have a chance to vote because your GRC is walked over, don’t just lament about it. Show your support by donating to the political party of your choice or volunteering in their grassroot work. The Obama campaign is built on millions of small donations that make up a huge war chest for him to win the election.</p>
<p>Lastly, everyone has the right to criticize. But criticism without constructive suggestions to improve or remedy the situation is usually not helpful. We should strive to use this platform to brainstorm ideas so that things can be improved, instead of merely complaining about things and then going away, feeling a false sense of achievement that you have done something about it.</p>
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		<title>By: neversaydie</title>
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		<dc:creator>neversaydie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of the few times, I don&#039;t agree with TKL.

The government is not responsive and has not been for a long time.

Their policies are not working.

Worse, we are at the receiving end of their single minded beliefs. They seemed to confuse form over substance.

As citizens, we have been obedient and look where it has led us to.  Ministers telling us that we don&#039;t have enough for retirement but they are reducing the interest rates on our CPF savings. This is one example.

The public cannot be blamed in this relationship when it sours.

The policies makers need to reflect on their own doings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the few times, I don&#8217;t agree with TKL.</p>
<p>The government is not responsive and has not been for a long time.</p>
<p>Their policies are not working.</p>
<p>Worse, we are at the receiving end of their single minded beliefs. They seemed to confuse form over substance.</p>
<p>As citizens, we have been obedient and look where it has led us to.  Ministers telling us that we don&#8217;t have enough for retirement but they are reducing the interest rates on our CPF savings. This is one example.</p>
<p>The public cannot be blamed in this relationship when it sours.</p>
<p>The policies makers need to reflect on their own doings.</p>
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		<title>By: SIMPLE</title>
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		<dc:creator>SIMPLE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear TKL,
After reading or eye balling over 70 postings here over the last 5 days, I can no longer resist the urge to give my take.

1.	Just like you I select my choice of words when blogging. I will stay civil and absolutely avoid the use of vulgarities. This does not mean that I will not be forceful and firm, depending on the feelings I have for an issue, but again never abusive. But that’s you and me. 
While not at all condoning abusive language, I do accept the reality that there are many men-in-the street and in the kopitiams who have strong views, frustrations and even anger about their living environment and government policies. That’s the way they know how to express themselves verbally and in writing, perhaps because also of a lower language proficiency. Their words may not be refined but they are being true to their feelings. Their writing skills can improve with training but most will not be signing for courses anytime soon. So people and the govt, like it or not, ought to listen between the lines rather than focus just on the language. Once again I’m not defending them but rather I understand human behaviour and it takes all kinds o people to make the world. And they each have one vote. These same people will also most likely be putting their mouths where their voting papers are. We cannot, like the ostrich with its head in the sands, pretend all’s well and sanitized. But I believe your comment is well intentioned.

2.	You lamented that “there is a strong perception that any suggestion by a minister will be implemented as government policy”. That is not without reason. It’s like “no smoke without fire” and people have seen so many water-testing by ministers before policy implementations – examples: increase of GST to 7%, IRs, evening ERP, means testing for healthcare subsidies, organ trading, Serangoon Gardens foreign workers dormitory…. The list goes on. I am also not saying that all these are not good policies but that these have been seen to be pushed through despite strong opposing public views. 

3.	You said “there seems to be a strong dislike and distrust of the government.  This is unhealthy.” I agree but your observation is not exactly fiction or myth, or without cause Yes, such feeling is unhealthy but then only the govt. can really fix it. The bloggers just react.
If people are unhappy, and they express that strongly and firmly, there is nothing wrong about doing that. Why is it not civil to disagree or not accept views and actions of ministers and politicians which they don’t like? They are put there by the people for the peopl.e The process here is not like a school debate – it is politics. The issues are real life ones and the people have the right to want solutions and favourable results. . You had played an instrumental role in mini-bonds petitions and had also expressed angst and frustrations forcefully in your speeches and blogs with the unresponsiveness and lack of support and empathy of the govt to the woes of investors. How about a fuller account of the losses of our 2 SWFs and the use of the President’s 2nd key?

You have publicly expressed your intentions to enter politics or some sort as an Alternative-Party person to the PAP. When you do, you too will be at the receiving end as an opposition person. PAP’s leaders have publicly declared that they will “fix” the opposition and not make life easy for them. They have matched  words with actions. We saw the large number of PAP MPs trying to rough up Low TK recently in the Budget debate in Parliament on his remarks on the Job Credit scheme. Many bloggers have shown by their postings that they are “mature and responsible people”. That didn’t make the govt more responsive and listen up. It takes 2 to tango, but right now it seems the big partner is not doing much dancing. 

Therefore, will your strategy on how you will relate to the ruling party work for you? Will they ever reciprocate and change to the people’s and your liking in your lifetime in politics? I’m sure your supporters and your voters-to-be will be interested to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear TKL,<br />
After reading or eye balling over 70 postings here over the last 5 days, I can no longer resist the urge to give my take.</p>
<p>1.	Just like you I select my choice of words when blogging. I will stay civil and absolutely avoid the use of vulgarities. This does not mean that I will not be forceful and firm, depending on the feelings I have for an issue, but again never abusive. But that’s you and me.<br />
While not at all condoning abusive language, I do accept the reality that there are many men-in-the street and in the kopitiams who have strong views, frustrations and even anger about their living environment and government policies. That’s the way they know how to express themselves verbally and in writing, perhaps because also of a lower language proficiency. Their words may not be refined but they are being true to their feelings. Their writing skills can improve with training but most will not be signing for courses anytime soon. So people and the govt, like it or not, ought to listen between the lines rather than focus just on the language. Once again I’m not defending them but rather I understand human behaviour and it takes all kinds o people to make the world. And they each have one vote. These same people will also most likely be putting their mouths where their voting papers are. We cannot, like the ostrich with its head in the sands, pretend all’s well and sanitized. But I believe your comment is well intentioned.</p>
<p>2.	You lamented that “there is a strong perception that any suggestion by a minister will be implemented as government policy”. That is not without reason. It’s like “no smoke without fire” and people have seen so many water-testing by ministers before policy implementations – examples: increase of GST to 7%, IRs, evening ERP, means testing for healthcare subsidies, organ trading, Serangoon Gardens foreign workers dormitory…. The list goes on. I am also not saying that all these are not good policies but that these have been seen to be pushed through despite strong opposing public views. </p>
<p>3.	You said “there seems to be a strong dislike and distrust of the government.  This is unhealthy.” I agree but your observation is not exactly fiction or myth, or without cause Yes, such feeling is unhealthy but then only the govt. can really fix it. The bloggers just react.<br />
If people are unhappy, and they express that strongly and firmly, there is nothing wrong about doing that. Why is it not civil to disagree or not accept views and actions of ministers and politicians which they don’t like? They are put there by the people for the peopl.e The process here is not like a school debate – it is politics. The issues are real life ones and the people have the right to want solutions and favourable results. . You had played an instrumental role in mini-bonds petitions and had also expressed angst and frustrations forcefully in your speeches and blogs with the unresponsiveness and lack of support and empathy of the govt to the woes of investors. How about a fuller account of the losses of our 2 SWFs and the use of the President’s 2nd key?</p>
<p>You have publicly expressed your intentions to enter politics or some sort as an Alternative-Party person to the PAP. When you do, you too will be at the receiving end as an opposition person. PAP’s leaders have publicly declared that they will “fix” the opposition and not make life easy for them. They have matched  words with actions. We saw the large number of PAP MPs trying to rough up Low TK recently in the Budget debate in Parliament on his remarks on the Job Credit scheme. Many bloggers have shown by their postings that they are “mature and responsible people”. That didn’t make the govt more responsive and listen up. It takes 2 to tango, but right now it seems the big partner is not doing much dancing. </p>
<p>Therefore, will your strategy on how you will relate to the ruling party work for you? Will they ever reciprocate and change to the people’s and your liking in your lifetime in politics? I’m sure your supporters and your voters-to-be will be interested to know.</p>
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		<title>By: AC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 06:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with the notion that the government is &#039;tough-minded&#039; when it makes policies that goes against the public consensus.

It is a sign of toughness if and only if there are real, significant political price to pay for unpopular decisions. So far the government has been able circumvented such consequences because they are willing and able to bend and break rules to run elections with an obvious bias in their favor.

Peace, prosperity and progress in good times are credited to our leaders&#039; ability and greatness; but in these difficult period losses are blamed on global climate and presented as inevitable. Are our leaders shirking their responsibilities?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with the notion that the government is &#8216;tough-minded&#8217; when it makes policies that goes against the public consensus.</p>
<p>It is a sign of toughness if and only if there are real, significant political price to pay for unpopular decisions. So far the government has been able circumvented such consequences because they are willing and able to bend and break rules to run elections with an obvious bias in their favor.</p>
<p>Peace, prosperity and progress in good times are credited to our leaders&#8217; ability and greatness; but in these difficult period losses are blamed on global climate and presented as inevitable. Are our leaders shirking their responsibilities?</p>
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		<title>By: mrthinktalk</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/02/6226/comment-page-2/#comment-53767</link>
		<dc:creator>mrthinktalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 04:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree it would be better another messenger deliver  his message. But then our leaders are tough-minded and not known to shirk responsibilies to make unpopular polices for overall good of the country. This is the modus operandi of the our leaders for many years which had brought peace, progress and prosperity to the people and country. Isn&#039;t this so?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree it would be better another messenger deliver  his message. But then our leaders are tough-minded and not known to shirk responsibilies to make unpopular polices for overall good of the country. This is the modus operandi of the our leaders for many years which had brought peace, progress and prosperity to the people and country. Isn&#8217;t this so?</p>
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		<title>By: AC</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/02/6226/comment-page-2/#comment-53734</link>
		<dc:creator>AC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that while we should not deviate from the issue at hand into personal attacks and insults; we should not expect the polar opposite as the norm - that all communication have be respectful and polite before any exchange can actually take place. Let&#039;s not be overly sensitive and delicate - political debates are hardly the realm of &#039;sugar and spice and everything nice&#039;.

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I think that cheaper nursing homes overseas should be an option explored by the private sector instead of being spear-headed by our Health Minister. I think that as a minister Khaw should be aware that he represents the government, and that his words will be, rightly or wrongly, perceived as government policy inclinations.

Unless I am mistaken, Khaw himself had said strong words publicly condemning the lack of filial piety. For the same man to broach on the topic of not only sending one&#039;s parents to a home for elderly, but a home that is in another country, is very inappropriate and borders on hypocrisy. Is it then surprising that Singaporeans take him to task?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that while we should not deviate from the issue at hand into personal attacks and insults; we should not expect the polar opposite as the norm &#8211; that all communication have be respectful and polite before any exchange can actually take place. Let&#8217;s not be overly sensitive and delicate &#8211; political debates are hardly the realm of &#8216;sugar and spice and everything nice&#8217;.</p>
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<p>I think that cheaper nursing homes overseas should be an option explored by the private sector instead of being spear-headed by our Health Minister. I think that as a minister Khaw should be aware that he represents the government, and that his words will be, rightly or wrongly, perceived as government policy inclinations.</p>
<p>Unless I am mistaken, Khaw himself had said strong words publicly condemning the lack of filial piety. For the same man to broach on the topic of not only sending one&#8217;s parents to a home for elderly, but a home that is in another country, is very inappropriate and borders on hypocrisy. Is it then surprising that Singaporeans take him to task?</p>
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		<title>By: undertaker</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/02/6226/comment-page-2/#comment-53721</link>
		<dc:creator>undertaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree on 1 point. give objective critics (suggestion is even better), don&#039;t insult. it&#039;s discouraging everybody else from listening to you. what&#039;s for any sane person listen to you if what they would hear is insult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree on 1 point. give objective critics (suggestion is even better), don&#8217;t insult. it&#8217;s discouraging everybody else from listening to you. what&#8217;s for any sane person listen to you if what they would hear is insult.</p>
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		<title>By: Freedom</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/02/6226/comment-page-2/#comment-53681</link>
		<dc:creator>Freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 15:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a democratic country, everyone is allowed to express their views right! Harsh or soft...Well, we are just expressing it thru TOC. In other countries, they strike. &amp; so on..Compared to that is a a very very soft...If you say this is harsh, what do you say about people who strike?Here people are expressing their opinions (angrily) in tOC, cause they have no other outlet...Dont think you should tell them to stop venting out their anger...by the way do u think the govt will listen to what we are saying in TOC?Hmm....I dont know..if they can take this in a positive &amp; understanding manner it  will be good for s&#039;poreans. And Iam sure people in TOC will give kudos if govt does that. If not we can only rant  in TOC..so please dont  tell us not to even do that....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a democratic country, everyone is allowed to express their views right! Harsh or soft&#8230;Well, we are just expressing it thru TOC. In other countries, they strike. &amp; so on..Compared to that is a a very very soft&#8230;If you say this is harsh, what do you say about people who strike?Here people are expressing their opinions (angrily) in tOC, cause they have no other outlet&#8230;Dont think you should tell them to stop venting out their anger&#8230;by the way do u think the govt will listen to what we are saying in TOC?Hmm&#8230;.I dont know..if they can take this in a positive &amp; understanding manner it  will be good for s&#8217;poreans. And Iam sure people in TOC will give kudos if govt does that. If not we can only rant  in TOC..so please dont  tell us not to even do that&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily SG: 23 Feb 2009</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/02/6226/comment-page-2/#comment-53592</link>
		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily SG: 23 Feb 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 03:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wants to ship me to another country when I get old - TOC: Respect other people’s views - Tan Kin Lian - A Lesser Mortal: JB Nursing Home Syndrome - Logically Illogical Logic [Thanks [...]</description>
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