Comments on: Educate the public through New Media, says Tan Kin Lian at opposition forum

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By: Sylvester Lim

Sylvester Lim — Sun, 15 Feb 2009 02:53:10 +0000

Is opposition unity important or not? Where is WP’s leadership or they are planning to go it alone?

For Andrew Chuah:
“A most insidious form of fear is that which masquerades as common sense or even wisdom, condemning as foolish, reckless, insignificant or futile the small, daily acts of courage which help to preserve man’s self-respect and inherent human dignity.”
Aung San Suu Kyi

By: Benjamin Lee

Benjamin Lee — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:53:49 +0000

Just like to comment about Dr TKL’s view that people are not apathetic based on the turnout at HLP for the minibom issue.

The turnout is STILL a strong minority of 10% of the affected!!!!

Its a big issue afterall. People’s entire life savings. ERP issue, TC issue are all smaller issues compared to that. Although these are / were (people forget) hot issues.

Why is it people generally fear talking about social issues when talking to colleagues or friends outside or in private ? China nationals dare to talk about many many thingies.

Apathy is the no. 1 problem on my list.

Imagine if just 50% wakes up from apathy to being interested in social issues.
Would we have seen 5000 turned up?

Wonder what you people feel about this?

By: Fang ZY

Fang ZY — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:32:28 +0000

SDP is champion of “political unity”? I doubt so!!! See http://www.notmysdp.blogspot.com for different perspective.

Fang ZY

By: TrueBlood Singaporean

TrueBlood Singaporean — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:46:36 +0000

Tan Kin Lian if you stand for next election, we will vote for you!

By: Andrew Chuah

Andrew Chuah — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:25:17 +0000

12/2/09

To the Writer who posted *36-please at least use a name or intial (I noticed that you have been writing nameless-afraid being picked up by the Authorities).

Regards
Andrew Chuah

By: To Andrew Chuah on February 9th, 2009 9.46 pm

To Andrew Chuah on February 9th, 2009 9.46 pm — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 04:13:55 +0000

“To The Moderator-This is worse than than Mainstream media censorship. TOC must walk the talk and there must not be any censoship.”

Why should TOC do that my friend. The Mainstream has so many years of headstart dictating the rules of usage even though it belongs to the public at large.

Let TOC even out these many years of headstart first and we shall start afresh ok. Please bear in mind, TOC is only a single site in the net and people freely come and go. Why should you be so concerned.

By: #21

#21 — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:48:05 +0000

Hi Andrew,

The quote was “…Singapore is too small and fragile…”.

I don’t think TOC deliberately censored it. It might have been an honest mistake. The quote was enclosed within two sharp brackets.

regards.

By: Andrew Chuah

Andrew Chuah — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:46:19 +0000

9/2/09

To The Moderator-This is worse than than Mainstream media censorship. TOC must walk the talk and there must not be any censoship.

Regards
Andrew Chuah

By: Andrew Chuah

Andrew Chuah — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:25:46 +0000

9/2/09

To the Writer who posted *21, please read my posting *32.

Regards
Andrew Chuah

By: Cat

Cat — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:37:31 +0000

“24) Dog on February 9th, 2009 1.05 pm
The moral of the story is collaboration, you call it being a running dog. Well running dogs win races, barking dogs achieve nothing.”

Wow man, good lesson from you. Surely must learn from you on this new definition.

Perhaps, you may want introduce this new term to our Foreign Affairs service and our SAF and get some consultancy fees from them. I did not know that the word “running dog” could be made to sound so positive, what a top-notch scholarly spin. May I know which leader you are referring to.

By: gemami

gemami — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 08:03:06 +0000

Hi Ah Gu,

Just to let you know that I have posted a reply in appreciation for concurring with my views. Unfortunately, all my postings have gone into moderation today. I shall not post any more comments . Good day.

By: Ah Gu

Ah Gu — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 06:37:06 +0000

“He offers nothing but have a lot to say about what others are saying. He targets those whose views do not fit his. I have never seen a worse coward than this.”

I have noticed. So what can we do about this nagging coward. Yes, I find him quite irritating.

Gemani, how many times have you been targeted by him.

By: Spirit-centred

Spirit-centred — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 06:33:32 +0000

The world is made up of 5 different colored races and within each colored race it is subdivided into many different races. Therefore it is natural and healthy to have different kind of people with different views, opinion and culture. If our world only have one view, one opinion and one culture, what do you think the world will be like. There will be no progress, no technological advancement , no evolution of civilisation and no war (not very likely, even brothers fight among each other because of greed). So we may have a mono-faceted disease in the long run, this apply to Singapore political arena. The one party government year after year with no one to highlight its weakness and failings because eveyone in the government thinks the same all time and they are blind-folded to other better alteranatives that are not their own.
If Singapore want to progress for the next 20 to 50 years, Singaporeans need to change this status quo in all fields especially political.economic and spiritual fields. We must embrace all parties, all views , all systems, all religions, all talents, all skills, all races to build a multi-faceted society that can only go ahead with its own dynamism.
If a political party uses all bureacratic structure physical or virtual to serve their own ends to stay in power for a long, long time, the end result is the society is heading towards a drought in spontaneous, passionate, altruistic and talented political leaders. They end up appointing half-hearted scholars and technocrats into their fold and most of the time they are beholden to the great one who appoint them and their creativity and cloud are stifled and clouded by the great one. Therefore, progress for the common good also take a back sit as shown in the current budget where they stubbornly stick to their philosophy against direct social assistance to the unemployment during this depressing time. This actually created insecurity among the people whether retrenched or not retrenched. When there is insecurity, people will not spend or take risk.
So we need alternative political views to hammer this out instead of same old clique hammer themselves till they bleed with no new breakthrough in solutions.

By: gemami

gemami — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:30:19 +0000

Oh btw; you guys can continue your discourse.

I had a good time sharing my views and hearing the views of so many. What a lesson it has been. All thanks to TOC.

Henceforth, I shall seek my news craving elsewhere. Perhaps I will pop in from time to time but don’t count on it. TOC has shifted its position too much from when I first participated in it. I cannot continue with the current shift.

Thanks anyway. I have benefited tremendously.

By: chaofan

chaofan — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:26:58 +0000

We can either continue to eat our cake with a moldy core and moan about it or we cut out the moldy center. In the worst situation we’ll just bake ourselves a new one. It should not be a situation where we are forced to eat the moldy cake.

By: gemami

gemami — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:19:01 +0000

Don’t know if you guys notice this fellow who hides between his two legs and calling himself ‘To:’.

He offers nothing but have a lot to say about what others are saying. He targets those whose views do not fit his. I have never seen a worse coward than this.

By: Dog

Dog — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:05:22 +0000

Someone used the term running dog..

Well history has it that one leader was the running dog of the Japanese although the official text called it working for the Japanese. Later becoming the running dog of the British. For being the British running dog he was rewarded power and position. Today he is the running dog of China and American financial institutions.

The moral of the story is collaboration, you call it being a running dog. Well running dogs win races, barking dogs achieve nothing.

By: To Ramesh on February 8th, 2009 8.34 pm

To Ramesh on February 8th, 2009 8.34 pm — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 02:03:12 +0000

“1. We are not the people involved. We are at best by standers who may not know everything about what REALLY happened. For this fact alone, we should not be blasting people when we are at most 3rd parties. We do not know the TRUTH.
Best to keep an open mind.”

Yes, you do not know the TRUTH. So provide us with the TRUTH (transparency and openess) so that there won’t be wild speculations based on joining dots that are only visible. Dots that are invisible cannot be joined as no one is able to see it.

“If not, for our own self respect, we should keep an open mind and SEEK more truth than to be a victim of our own ignorance or lack of open mind.”

Of course, you will be ignorant if you are being kept in the dark while another bright picture may be painted for you to see.

Ramesh, a lot of people here know the concept / dark process of ignorance so do not make it sound as though netizens whom you may disagree are second-rated species and that they are clueless on what they are doing.

By: aiyoyo

aiyoyo — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 01:59:41 +0000

aiyoyo

hope TKL can help serve the commoners in the next elect

aiyoyo