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		<title>By: Oh Tham Eng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oh Tham Eng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 04:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOU&#039;RE RIGHT---WE SHOULD THINK AND AVOID OUR BRAINS GOING LAZY

Hi &quot;shoestring&quot;!

You commented on what I wrote on 2/3/09 at 2:30 PM in my post  #45 &quot;TIME TO DISPEL DARKNESS.” 

I got the facts and figures, because I involved myself in the matter through my letter of 21/8/06 to help both the old cabby Koo Tong Huat and MP Seng Han Thong (who was punched by cabby Koo). The criminal case number was PS 1138/2006, and the District Judge was Miss Valerie Kheam. 

That day 30/10/06 in her Court 5, DJ Valerie allowed the criminal prosecution to be withdrawn as nice man Mr Seng Han Thong was encouraged by me to forgive him. Cabby Koo then thanked MP Seng for forgiving him. 

Th matter had nothing to do with the PAP leaders manipulating the matter to make themselves look good. It had everything to do with MP Seng trying to do his best as an MP.

When the second incident happened again, TNP reporter Ms Vivien Chan went up to cabby Koo and interviewed him. He told Ms Chan he had since become MP Seng&#039;s good friend, and would turn up for MP Seng&#039;s community event in the YCK CC.

Now, I had also given RADM Lui these facts through a copy of my 21/8/06 letter to Mr Seng HT when he became my Moulmein MP. So RADM Lui knew what he was talking about. He would be failing in his duty if he kept quiet, as many of you wanted him to keep quiet. Well, if you have your right to speak, does RADM Lui not have his right to speak too?

After all, he wasn&#039;t telling us that he would want to bring more regulations to control internet activities. He was just lamenting the lack of self-policing in internet, and essentially wanted more kind-hearted, helpful and sensible people like me (and you) to come out in force to help others, such as by shedding light and explaining matters for others to understand. 

I helped out because I always believe that Singaporeans MUST HELP Singaporeans. If we do not help ourselves, who do you think will help us, &quot;shoestring&quot;? So you are wrong to write that “The audience do not need help to decide on what they want to read.”

Now, if all of us play our part to help each other whenever we could, then we can continue to enjoy our freedom to speak freely and debate with each other, without the need for more government regulations to be brought in. Never mind if we make mistakes with what we say or write. 

But when our errors are pointed out to us, we should be honest with ourselves, accept/admit our errors, and make the necessary corrections, and move on. We must not be &quot;lazy&quot; as you correctly said, and mindlessly swallow whatever we heard from other people. 

So I would urge you not to be &quot;lazy&quot;. Meet me in Toa Payoh HDB HUB for my lunch treat then, and I will pass you a copy of that  21/8/06 letter I wrote to MP Seng. I will explain more and you can understand better that what RADM Lui said and wished for in Parliament was correct. Will this be a reasonable suggestion to you, sir?
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{&quot;shoestring&quot; wrote on Wed, 4th Mar 2009 1:36 pm:  Oh Tham Eng said:- “What is wrong in people like RADM Lui Tuck Yew wanting or “insist[ing] that online discourse should be credible?” ”
Credibility of debaters is determined by the audience, not the debaters. RADM Lui Tuck Yew ...[he] has no grounds for insisting on his opponents’ credibility, when his own credibility is also scrutinized. Credibility does not come with a name. I has to be built and earned......The audience do not need help to decide on what they want to read. Neither do they need anyone to tell them who is credible or not. They will decide for themselves......instead of lazy brains expecting to be fed with “credible” delicacies specially picked, washed and shipped from the heavenly places.}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOU&#8217;RE RIGHT&#8212;WE SHOULD THINK AND AVOID OUR BRAINS GOING LAZY</p>
<p>Hi &#8220;shoestring&#8221;!</p>
<p>You commented on what I wrote on 2/3/09 at 2:30 PM in my post  #45 &#8220;TIME TO DISPEL DARKNESS.” </p>
<p>I got the facts and figures, because I involved myself in the matter through my letter of 21/8/06 to help both the old cabby Koo Tong Huat and MP Seng Han Thong (who was punched by cabby Koo). The criminal case number was PS 1138/2006, and the District Judge was Miss Valerie Kheam. </p>
<p>That day 30/10/06 in her Court 5, DJ Valerie allowed the criminal prosecution to be withdrawn as nice man Mr Seng Han Thong was encouraged by me to forgive him. Cabby Koo then thanked MP Seng for forgiving him. </p>
<p>Th matter had nothing to do with the PAP leaders manipulating the matter to make themselves look good. It had everything to do with MP Seng trying to do his best as an MP.</p>
<p>When the second incident happened again, TNP reporter Ms Vivien Chan went up to cabby Koo and interviewed him. He told Ms Chan he had since become MP Seng&#8217;s good friend, and would turn up for MP Seng&#8217;s community event in the YCK CC.</p>
<p>Now, I had also given RADM Lui these facts through a copy of my 21/8/06 letter to Mr Seng HT when he became my Moulmein MP. So RADM Lui knew what he was talking about. He would be failing in his duty if he kept quiet, as many of you wanted him to keep quiet. Well, if you have your right to speak, does RADM Lui not have his right to speak too?</p>
<p>After all, he wasn&#8217;t telling us that he would want to bring more regulations to control internet activities. He was just lamenting the lack of self-policing in internet, and essentially wanted more kind-hearted, helpful and sensible people like me (and you) to come out in force to help others, such as by shedding light and explaining matters for others to understand. </p>
<p>I helped out because I always believe that Singaporeans MUST HELP Singaporeans. If we do not help ourselves, who do you think will help us, &#8220;shoestring&#8221;? So you are wrong to write that “The audience do not need help to decide on what they want to read.”</p>
<p>Now, if all of us play our part to help each other whenever we could, then we can continue to enjoy our freedom to speak freely and debate with each other, without the need for more government regulations to be brought in. Never mind if we make mistakes with what we say or write. </p>
<p>But when our errors are pointed out to us, we should be honest with ourselves, accept/admit our errors, and make the necessary corrections, and move on. We must not be &#8220;lazy&#8221; as you correctly said, and mindlessly swallow whatever we heard from other people. </p>
<p>So I would urge you not to be &#8220;lazy&#8221;. Meet me in Toa Payoh HDB HUB for my lunch treat then, and I will pass you a copy of that  21/8/06 letter I wrote to MP Seng. I will explain more and you can understand better that what RADM Lui said and wished for in Parliament was correct. Will this be a reasonable suggestion to you, sir?<br />
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<p>{&#8220;shoestring&#8221; wrote on Wed, 4th Mar 2009 1:36 pm:  Oh Tham Eng said:- “What is wrong in people like RADM Lui Tuck Yew wanting or “insist[ing] that online discourse should be credible?” ”<br />
Credibility of debaters is determined by the audience, not the debaters. RADM Lui Tuck Yew &#8230;[he] has no grounds for insisting on his opponents’ credibility, when his own credibility is also scrutinized. Credibility does not come with a name. I has to be built and earned&#8230;&#8230;The audience do not need help to decide on what they want to read. Neither do they need anyone to tell them who is credible or not. They will decide for themselves&#8230;&#8230;instead of lazy brains expecting to be fed with “credible” delicacies specially picked, washed and shipped from the heavenly places.}</p>
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		<title>By: Albino dragooon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albino dragooon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>observe the &#039;bouquet&#039; section in newspaper.
makes people feel good. 

i have a opinion about the news report by a &#039;new local research paper&#039; , ST saturdy page A25.

the statistic :

Q: what should the gov do to lighten the financial burden of an ageing society?
Statistics shown:  majority of 48.6% feels that Retirement Age should be raised. 

I have questions :
1. who compiled this stats? 
2. what happens if another person compiles his own stats? lets say me. If i do it, I feel that the stats would be different. to me, to lighten the financial burden for ageing society would be to have a strong and robust retirement plan planned decades ahead for the people. Why need to raise the retirement age when there is already a retirement plan for the people using CPF? Is there any weakness that requires people to change their retirement plan? Why ? singapore only has a tiny population, their retirement should not be a problem. Early planning should not require raising the retirement age, imho. Also, like to raise an awareness :

a. some people are told old people wants to work older past 60 for all sorts of reasons. I think this way of saying is not clear enough. People want to retire and stay active doing things they like like non-salary work like gardening, travelling, social work, arts, karaoke, creative activities, learn new skills and hobbies. 20 years is not long to learn or do all that a person wants to during retirement. what i mean is, I feel that old people do not want to work when old and they can and want to do things that still keep their minds alert and thinking BUT!!!!!!   not to earn a living. I feel that some may be mistaken based on what they were told that old people wants to continue working to keep their minds active to prevent alzheimers etc. This can be a sweeping statement in 1 aspect as to keep one&#039;s mind and soul active, it is not a must to continue earning a salary. It should be clearer by saying some old people who cannot save enough or earn enough to support their retirement years NEED to Continue Working for an income to sustain the cost of living and medicals. 

So, i hope my message is clear and well understood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>observe the &#8216;bouquet&#8217; section in newspaper.<br />
makes people feel good. </p>
<p>i have a opinion about the news report by a &#8216;new local research paper&#8217; , ST saturdy page A25.</p>
<p>the statistic :</p>
<p>Q: what should the gov do to lighten the financial burden of an ageing society?<br />
Statistics shown:  majority of 48.6% feels that Retirement Age should be raised. </p>
<p>I have questions :<br />
1. who compiled this stats?<br />
2. what happens if another person compiles his own stats? lets say me. If i do it, I feel that the stats would be different. to me, to lighten the financial burden for ageing society would be to have a strong and robust retirement plan planned decades ahead for the people. Why need to raise the retirement age when there is already a retirement plan for the people using CPF? Is there any weakness that requires people to change their retirement plan? Why ? singapore only has a tiny population, their retirement should not be a problem. Early planning should not require raising the retirement age, imho. Also, like to raise an awareness :</p>
<p>a. some people are told old people wants to work older past 60 for all sorts of reasons. I think this way of saying is not clear enough. People want to retire and stay active doing things they like like non-salary work like gardening, travelling, social work, arts, karaoke, creative activities, learn new skills and hobbies. 20 years is not long to learn or do all that a person wants to during retirement. what i mean is, I feel that old people do not want to work when old and they can and want to do things that still keep their minds alert and thinking BUT!!!!!!   not to earn a living. I feel that some may be mistaken based on what they were told that old people wants to continue working to keep their minds active to prevent alzheimers etc. This can be a sweeping statement in 1 aspect as to keep one&#8217;s mind and soul active, it is not a must to continue earning a salary. It should be clearer by saying some old people who cannot save enough or earn enough to support their retirement years NEED to Continue Working for an income to sustain the cost of living and medicals. </p>
<p>So, i hope my message is clear and well understood.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you sit up and think why people like to use the internet to express and comment on such things   about Singapore.  It is because the main media, i.e.  the newspapers and media corp do not allow them the space to comment on certain things about Singapore where its citizens feel passionately about.  All the news and comments by the main media is filtered and skewed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you sit up and think why people like to use the internet to express and comment on such things   about Singapore.  It is because the main media, i.e.  the newspapers and media corp do not allow them the space to comment on certain things about Singapore where its citizens feel passionately about.  All the news and comments by the main media is filtered and skewed.</p>
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		<title>By: A wider perspective</title>
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		<dc:creator>A wider perspective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 04:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough, and now that you have hindsight view, is it worth the trouble to continue doing so?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough, and now that you have hindsight view, is it worth the trouble to continue doing so?</p>
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		<title>By: theonlinecitizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>theonlinecitizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 01:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#38,

Because we don&#039;t know it&#039;s going to be 2.4 until we see it in hindsight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#38,</p>
<p>Because we don&#8217;t know it&#8217;s going to be 2.4 until we see it in hindsight.</p>
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		<title>By: A wider perspective</title>
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		<dc:creator>A wider perspective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 00:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why take the trouble to disallow 2.4 comments a day then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why take the trouble to disallow 2.4 comments a day then?</p>
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		<title>By: theonlinecitizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>theonlinecitizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tio Man Long,

We have had a total of 46, 379 comments since TOC so far.

44, 521 comments have either been approved or displayed immediately upon posting.

1, 858 comments have been disallowed.

To see things in perspective:

1, 858 equals to about 74 comments every month which are disallowed. (Taking a figure of 25 months since TOC came online in Dec 1, 2006).

74 comments equals to 2.4 comments disallowed everyday (Taking a 30-day month).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tio Man Long,</p>
<p>We have had a total of 46, 379 comments since TOC so far.</p>
<p>44, 521 comments have either been approved or displayed immediately upon posting.</p>
<p>1, 858 comments have been disallowed.</p>
<p>To see things in perspective:</p>
<p>1, 858 equals to about 74 comments every month which are disallowed. (Taking a figure of 25 months since TOC came online in Dec 1, 2006).</p>
<p>74 comments equals to 2.4 comments disallowed everyday (Taking a 30-day month).</p>
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		<title>By: Tio Man Long</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/02/moderating-the-internet-%e2%80%93-lets-hold-the-wild-horses/comment-page-1/#comment-54015</link>
		<dc:creator>Tio Man Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no strong need to regulate TOC, imho.
TOC is already regulating comments almost instantly after you post.
Just ask TOC how many comments they have deleted.
cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no strong need to regulate TOC, imho.<br />
TOC is already regulating comments almost instantly after you post.<br />
Just ask TOC how many comments they have deleted.<br />
cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: mrthinktalk</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrthinktalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.....If you really want to go wild on blogosphere better get advice from a lawyer who should be able to tell you where the OB markers are. But interesting to see the next phase of development when the authorities get invovled in the new media in a big way..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;..If you really want to go wild on blogosphere better get advice from a lawyer who should be able to tell you where the OB markers are. But interesting to see the next phase of development when the authorities get invovled in the new media in a big way..</p>
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		<title>By: Saliency</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saliency</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jasper, 

Wrong tactics for the wrong age. This is not the 1960s. Policymakers would do well to heed this reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jasper, </p>
<p>Wrong tactics for the wrong age. This is not the 1960s. Policymakers would do well to heed this reality.</p>
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		<title>By: thefriendlyghost</title>
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		<dc:creator>thefriendlyghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 05:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In true open democracies, the MSMs are even more potent and damaging than our  new media on the government. I don&#039;t see the US government for eg, trying to rein in the people from their MSMs, let alone the netizens.  Everyone must be allowed their say in the new media and if the postings sound too preposterous, it will be ignored or read with a pinch of salt.
The government should learn to treat the citizens as adults.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In true open democracies, the MSMs are even more potent and damaging than our  new media on the government. I don&#8217;t see the US government for eg, trying to rein in the people from their MSMs, let alone the netizens.  Everyone must be allowed their say in the new media and if the postings sound too preposterous, it will be ignored or read with a pinch of salt.<br />
The government should learn to treat the citizens as adults.</p>
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		<title>By: Don't anyhow say</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don't anyhow say</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 04:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And, if the government is crippled by fear of losing popularity and cringe into inaction to rein in recalcitrant bloggers it will encourage them and we may be doomed.&quot;

A good government will not try to do this and will not be afraid to have a good system to give in to collective popularity as any collective force / intelligence of an educated &amp; knowledgeable workforce will always reign supreme anytime than a mere few whose very hubris must be regularly checked by the this popular collective force.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And, if the government is crippled by fear of losing popularity and cringe into inaction to rein in recalcitrant bloggers it will encourage them and we may be doomed.&#8221;</p>
<p>A good government will not try to do this and will not be afraid to have a good system to give in to collective popularity as any collective force / intelligence of an educated &amp; knowledgeable workforce will always reign supreme anytime than a mere few whose very hubris must be regularly checked by the this popular collective force.</p>
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		<title>By: BlackTeeShirt</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlackTeeShirt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 03:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am the reformed blogger</description>
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		<title>By: Jasper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 03:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, if the government is crippled by fear of losing popularity and cringe into inaction to rein in recalcitrant bloggers it will encourage them and we may be doomed.

Pragmatism may not always be the best solutions.  The BIG-STICK won the early days for us.  And I am concerned that the hard work of our founding generation is well-preserved for our future generations.  The majority of Singaporeans, the most discerning of us know the score.  There will always be detractors.

The future is in the hands of our new leaders and its also your responsibilty to protect the legacy of our founding fathers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, if the government is crippled by fear of losing popularity and cringe into inaction to rein in recalcitrant bloggers it will encourage them and we may be doomed.</p>
<p>Pragmatism may not always be the best solutions.  The BIG-STICK won the early days for us.  And I am concerned that the hard work of our founding generation is well-preserved for our future generations.  The majority of Singaporeans, the most discerning of us know the score.  There will always be detractors.</p>
<p>The future is in the hands of our new leaders and its also your responsibilty to protect the legacy of our founding fathers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jasper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 03:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have visited a few blogsites after the Seng H.T. case.  Not in this sphere - but some of the remarks made of MP Seng were over-cruel and unnecessary.
Some have caste gleeful aspersions at our presidency and judiciary.
It is one thing to criticise government policies.  Every policy will ultimately have to defend itself but to defile our presidency and judiciary cannot, must not, must never be allowed.  Will the world that we are so dependent upon for our survival invest in a small and seemingly unruly country that even mock at its presidency.

There are few well articulated and good articles in the blogsites I&#039;ve been to. A lot of enjoiners especially are infantile and puerile.  As such they pose no political or social threats as discerning citizens would not make a second visit on them. Lots of profanity-laced remarks.

But of those bloggers who contravene the law, defile our presidency and/or judiciary  I feel it would be responsible of our authorities to rein-in such disrespectful citizens for corrective training.  They are also defacing Singapore.

Leading and contemptuous articles are posted to inveigle feeble-minds to their cause whatever they may seem to be, tho I suspect to be mostly politically motivated.  Authors of such articles should also be taken to task.

In the main, I feel Singapore is not ready and should not allow bloggers to operate with impunity and postings in blogsphere unfettered  even if the authorities have to unleash the laws no matter how unpalatable this may be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have visited a few blogsites after the Seng H.T. case.  Not in this sphere &#8211; but some of the remarks made of MP Seng were over-cruel and unnecessary.<br />
Some have caste gleeful aspersions at our presidency and judiciary.<br />
It is one thing to criticise government policies.  Every policy will ultimately have to defend itself but to defile our presidency and judiciary cannot, must not, must never be allowed.  Will the world that we are so dependent upon for our survival invest in a small and seemingly unruly country that even mock at its presidency.</p>
<p>There are few well articulated and good articles in the blogsites I&#8217;ve been to. A lot of enjoiners especially are infantile and puerile.  As such they pose no political or social threats as discerning citizens would not make a second visit on them. Lots of profanity-laced remarks.</p>
<p>But of those bloggers who contravene the law, defile our presidency and/or judiciary  I feel it would be responsible of our authorities to rein-in such disrespectful citizens for corrective training.  They are also defacing Singapore.</p>
<p>Leading and contemptuous articles are posted to inveigle feeble-minds to their cause whatever they may seem to be, tho I suspect to be mostly politically motivated.  Authors of such articles should also be taken to task.</p>
<p>In the main, I feel Singapore is not ready and should not allow bloggers to operate with impunity and postings in blogsphere unfettered  even if the authorities have to unleash the laws no matter how unpalatable this may be.</p>
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		<title>By: Humpty invis t-shirt</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/02/moderating-the-internet-%e2%80%93-lets-hold-the-wild-horses/comment-page-1/#comment-53747</link>
		<dc:creator>Humpty invis t-shirt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 02:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Life can be cruel sometimes. 
Should we ignore this reality and create an artifial reality?
for who?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life can be cruel sometimes.<br />
Should we ignore this reality and create an artifial reality?<br />
for who?</p>
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		<title>By: MonikerSaidia</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/02/moderating-the-internet-%e2%80%93-lets-hold-the-wild-horses/comment-page-1/#comment-53730</link>
		<dc:creator>MonikerSaidia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 00:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that trying to harness and control New Media is being too kiasu. Also bewildered by this talk that Net was cruel to Seng Han Thong. No such thing from what I can see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that trying to harness and control New Media is being too kiasu. Also bewildered by this talk that Net was cruel to Seng Han Thong. No such thing from what I can see.</p>
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		<title>By: Fedup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fedup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sg_netizens are matured, constructive and value-adds.
but the internet offers us an opportunity to &quot;simply let it out&quot;.....
and who are we to judge whether this netizen is a negative element and should be barred....
so I guess the govt has yet to appreciate the whole spectrum of the internet and accept it for what it is.....
and yet to have trust in sg-netizens to &quot;behave&quot;....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sg_netizens are matured, constructive and value-adds.<br />
but the internet offers us an opportunity to &#8220;simply let it out&#8221;&#8230;..<br />
and who are we to judge whether this netizen is a negative element and should be barred&#8230;.<br />
so I guess the govt has yet to appreciate the whole spectrum of the internet and accept it for what it is&#8230;..<br />
and yet to have trust in sg-netizens to &#8220;behave&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheng Yi Feng Ah Gor</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/02/moderating-the-internet-%e2%80%93-lets-hold-the-wild-horses/comment-page-1/#comment-53678</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheng Yi Feng Ah Gor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder in this day and age and after the so-called &#039;liberalisation&#039;,

could the system handle choking questions?

y/n ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder in this day and age and after the so-called &#8216;liberalisation&#8217;,</p>
<p>could the system handle choking questions?</p>
<p>y/n ?</p>
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		<title>By: credit but no debit buay balan</title>
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		<dc:creator>credit but no debit buay balan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why is sg so like that?   :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why is sg so like that?   :P</p>
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