I was making a complaint to the Prime Minister. I was given this number to call MCYS and was told I could say anything. So I just voiced out my opinion.
Ng Kim Ngweng, who was charged for threatening MP Denise Phua
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yea yea yea we know, it’s always a mental case! wth
Well, what did Ng said to MP?
Next time anyone can be charged for thinking thoughts. Stop thinking and most impotant of all, don’t think aloud. Thinking allowed / aloud.?!
In NS, many are often told not to think, and do as told. Fortunately not all units are like that, but in general it reflects society as a whole.
Please allow me to say I doubt those that got into troubles with Members Of Parliament were(are) mentally unstable.
Let’s face it and be sincere and truthful, why did those offenders not do any harm to those around them??? Their family members, neghbours, friends, strangers in close proximities.
One of the offender had to buy flammable liquid, find the opportunity to carry out his act, another had called to make enquiry, maybe they were medically mentally unsound but sane by any other definition. Were they driven mad in a moment of despair?
AND FOR GOODNESS SAKE, AS A POLITICIAN AND PART OF A POLICY MAKING TEAM, ONE IS LIKELY TO AFFECT THE LIVELIHOODS OF SOME OF YOUR CITIZENS.
BE PREPARED AND BE WILLING TO BE BLAMED BY THOSE AFFECTED BY YOUR DEEDS. TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT AND BE A LAY CITIZEN !!
patriot
why take them at their word? it is not possible to say anything. there are OB markers.
Wow, since when TKL became a loktor???
Haha. Where got anyone can say anything he likes one. This is sinkapour. as some 1 said here – cant take them at face value. So dont take THEIR BAIT !!
Let me add a wee bit, a $1 note is legal tender for a dollar’s worth at face value. Thats it only. The rest are subjective – with a lb. of salt.
Heres what I mean. Even one cannot take MM’s word at face value, even tho his words are worth 999.999 pure gold – example, rememeber MM Lee was quoted as saying Singapore got no poor people. Is this sacred truth and honesty. And one more, our Disgraced Hero of Onraet Road’s tight security complex ever said that His or theirs dealings are transparent, nothing to hide in Singapore. . LOL !!
Mr Ng,
I think the words: ‘say anything’ does not mean you could actually say anything. In Singapore, the government only accepts ‘constructive criticisms’ and ‘debates’.
Ellen Lee said “Everything can be discussed. Whatever differences we may have, we are here to do a job” wor.
Haha. Anyone believe?
Can all of you papees reduce pay by 75% and use that to help the poor and needy?
Then all these incidents will resolve by itself.
He didn’t even say it to the MP, he said it to a MCYS officer who then reported it.
People who want to become MPs have to have the kind of interpersonal skills and a certain objective but empathetic trait to handle constituents who are angry, frustrated and aggravated. They should understand that sometimes these people are not personally angry with them, but are so exasperated or desperate with their personal difficulties that they become agitated with the first person who appears to add to their woes. The good MP will try to calm themdown and radiate a positive body language so that the aggrieved will be under control. This is the worst time to project a stand-offish image by having a layer of bureaucracy at the grassroots level – as is so often the case, as if the MPs are some elevated royalty before whom the peasants have to kowtow instead of the servants that they are – to “filter out” the discontented or their issues. Grassroot leaders should learn from customer relationship courses on how to handle customer complaints!
Of course, the MPs can resort to prosecution at the slightest provocation. This would compound the problem for sure, and MPs have to realise that tho they may have won a battle, they in fact will have lost the war! We have never had to hear of this type of MPs back in the 1950sand 60s when that period was even more dangerous and volatile (politically). It seems that nowadays PAP MPs are recruited based more/solely on whether they can become as elitist as their masters and on impressive paper qualiications rather than that special people quality which helps them to care for, convince and carry the people with them, especially with people who are often at the lower echelons of the economic class, who are illiterate in English, who are disenfranchised for some reason or other. A most difficult expectation from MPs (who may become Ministers/MOS) who have been insulated from the hoi polloi, who are used to having the good things in life the easy way, upper middleclass breeding, go to good elite schools and then later overseas grad studies, then “walked” into a GRC after spending some “wayang” community service!
To add, I’m not saying using threats on anyone is ok, but in the case mentioned, if I were the MP, I would first calm him down and deal with his complaints in a professional counsellor way. Then after he is happy with the outcome, I will then, but not before, give him a piece of my mind on his behaviour,but not resort to the law. And I will do it as man-to-man on an equal footing, rather than MP to the downtrodden.
I think u wanna arrest the guy for saying those things can, its just the law. If he said it in a public place and everyone heard. okay thats okay also.
But on a hotline where youd expect the conversation to be confidential,that really sucks man. its not fair.
Its like in army, you confide in your sergeant and he say “ok, i keep a secret” that you tell him that your OC punish you and u think hes stupid. Then your sergeant paotoh u and u kenna DB. Thats not fair man.
Why like dat man. it really hurts me to hear these things happen man. I think MCYS could have handle the matter internally. send him for counselling or something. Dun ‘patriot act’ him liddat lah. Hes not a terrorist man.
lol thought police
Not a good time to be threatening MPs.
Is complaining to REACH about the Cabinet and Member of Parliaments considered a threat to them? If so, then the police’s statement on the Today Online article would be a threat to the public because the police just threaten to arrest anyone who is not tolerant of PAP’s mistakes.
Today did not state why the man have such thoughts and disappointly, it promoted the ‘kind’ deeds by the MP, Denise Phua in the 2nd paragraph of the two pages online report which seems, to me, ‘unusual’ and secondary to this incident.
If any politician is unable to take the heat, thinking of cool comfort in an air-conditioned environment like a clinical incubator, he/she should not have accepted the responsibility, glamor and honor of being a MP. To do so then is hypocrisy.
To be an MP is to represent the people, all the people, especially the educationally, financially, physically and mentally disadvantaged and handicapped. Invariably, some of these folks would confront their representative either for help or to release their frustration caused by either system or the policies, especially in this period of recession, stress and depression.
If MPs are not able to sympathize or empathize with the lower rungs of society, if MPs are so easily annoyed and irritated by the citizens, and if MPs are not up to the mark to face such easily expected problems/troubles, then they should resign and give someone else a chance to serve the community and society. Or just leave their position empty, which is better than having a half-past-six MP.
If MPs are subconsciously thinking and behaving as though they are mini Lee Kuan Yews (that is the impression I get nowadays, especially in Parliament over the last few days), then they had better check themselves. MM Lee is a different class of his own. Nobody, not even his sons, can ever dream of becoming or imitating him.
So, those acting and behaving like mini LKYs, I say to you, it is time for you to do a serious and thorough soul-searching, especially those young birds and chicks who are trying to throw their weightless weight around (especially in Parliament over the last few days).
This country do not belong to you elites and elitists alone!
We, the Singapore Grandfathers (the over 70s) are the ones who have sacrificed our sweat, blood, efforts and sleepless days and nights to painfully laid the foundations over the last 50 years for you fellows to enjoy the fruits today!
lesser mortal should talk with immortals, this is a lesson learn. his words seems more of an experssion because he is upset and not really words of threat. if i qurrel with a friend, i would say we are on cold war and it isn’t even really a war but i wonder if the immortals hear this would they call saf to standby?
In the sense of …
Very simple.. since is now the crisis..
1st – Go visit the IMH for a couple of times
2nd – Make sure you have mental problems
3rd – Do what ever you like.. you will be spared.
like.. punching your boss, etc..
the jail term should be lighter :-)
In the sense of …
How can you say whatever you want when MSM print letters like this? They are so deluded in their sweeping statements whcih they believe as `facts’
One published letter writer says nice things MSM likes to hear e.g.
Quote (1) While some netizens are responsible, thoughtful and mature contributors, many are not.
(2)The perceived shroud of secrecy the Internet provides users makes them feel comfortable in ventilating their darker emotions or exploring more sinister aspects of their minds.
(3) The Internet gives everyone the ability to build a secret identity; they can choose to become a Batman, crusading for higher ideals, or a Joker, bent more on mischief and anarchy.
(4)Unfortunately, most contributors prefer to assume the latter identity (i.e. most of netizens are bent on mischief and anarchy) .
So those who don’t sympathise with Mr Seng are irrational because the writer believes strongly `most rational people would have felt he was deserving of sympathy’ unlike the online ones
I always believe that if one cannot give up his day job to be an MP, he or she has no business representing my district.
ST forum letter Quote (1)’ While some netizens are responsible, thoughtful and mature contributors, many are not ‘ -sweeping statement or statement of fact?.
(2) `The Internet gives everyone the ability to build a secret identity; they can choose to become a Batman, crusading for higher ideals, or a Joker, bent more on mischief and anarchy’.
(3)`Unfortunately, most contributors prefer to assume the latter (Joker)identity – so most of netizens are bent on mischief and anarchy’?? What a presumptous statement!
So those online who don’t sympathise with Mr Seng are irrational because the writer believes strongly `most rational people would have felt he was deserving of sympathy’ – so most online who don’t sympathise are labelled `irrational’?