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		<title>By: blowfishit</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/02/toc-breaking-news-mainstream-media-preparing-for-ge2009/comment-page-2/#comment-104257</link>
		<dc:creator>blowfishit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tiredsingaporean: stop using derogatory terms to describe MM Lee. if not for him, u wldnt even have the stupid com that you&#039;re using to type ur amateur comments. have some respect for the man. i disagree with him on loads of things, much less do i put him on a pedestal. nonetheless, i am deeply appreciative of what he&#039;s done and continues to do for sg when he could jolly well spend his millions in comfort. for those reasons alone, lets think twice before insulting our founding father.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tiredsingaporean: stop using derogatory terms to describe MM Lee. if not for him, u wldnt even have the stupid com that you&#8217;re using to type ur amateur comments. have some respect for the man. i disagree with him on loads of things, much less do i put him on a pedestal. nonetheless, i am deeply appreciative of what he&#8217;s done and continues to do for sg when he could jolly well spend his millions in comfort. for those reasons alone, lets think twice before insulting our founding father.</p>
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		<title>By: Spirit-centred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spirit-centred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If those kia si voters still vote the same way in favour of the papy, then they will &#039;si te hun how cant&#039; cos all jobs will be infiltrated by FT, Singaporeans will lost their indentities, probably we need to wear a big tag around our neck to tell the whole world I am native Singaporean; our numbers will be diluted in the messy big crowds. Don&#039;t dream that the economy will grow as fast as before and your income will go up, in fact will be depress further. You will regret for your &#039;tortoise hand&#039; in the vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If those kia si voters still vote the same way in favour of the papy, then they will &#8216;si te hun how cant&#8217; cos all jobs will be infiltrated by FT, Singaporeans will lost their indentities, probably we need to wear a big tag around our neck to tell the whole world I am native Singaporean; our numbers will be diluted in the messy big crowds. Don&#8217;t dream that the economy will grow as fast as before and your income will go up, in fact will be depress further. You will regret for your &#8216;tortoise hand&#8217; in the vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Tee Lian San</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/02/toc-breaking-news-mainstream-media-preparing-for-ge2009/comment-page-2/#comment-54004</link>
		<dc:creator>Tee Lian San</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My friend told me casually,
if given all the things that happened,
IF alternative force still could not make progress,
then, maybe, they would not be able to make progress for a long time come.

for me, i always keep my thoughts secret and never tell people how i feel. i kia si.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend told me casually,<br />
if given all the things that happened,<br />
IF alternative force still could not make progress,<br />
then, maybe, they would not be able to make progress for a long time come.</p>
<p>for me, i always keep my thoughts secret and never tell people how i feel. i kia si.</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
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		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 02:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/// 82) sweet_gingerz on February 25th, 2009 12.11 am
The screenshot is doctored. Visit the actual site and you will realise that it is “2006″ and not “2009″. The picture published here is also strategically cropped to leave out the title of “Singapore Votes 2006″. ///

sweetie pie, the doctoring was done by Media Corp themselves.  I went to the site in the morning of 20 Feb at 8.30am and title page was still showing &quot;2009&quot;. By 4.30pm, they have already changed it &quot;2006&quot; as they realized their boo-boo and they were poked fun by Alex of Yawning Bread and this site. Initially, all the references were to 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/// 82) sweet_gingerz on February 25th, 2009 12.11 am<br />
The screenshot is doctored. Visit the actual site and you will realise that it is “2006″ and not “2009″. The picture published here is also strategically cropped to leave out the title of “Singapore Votes 2006″. ///</p>
<p>sweetie pie, the doctoring was done by Media Corp themselves.  I went to the site in the morning of 20 Feb at 8.30am and title page was still showing &#8220;2009&#8243;. By 4.30pm, they have already changed it &#8220;2006&#8243; as they realized their boo-boo and they were poked fun by Alex of Yawning Bread and this site. Initially, all the references were to 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
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		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 02:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/// 18) TKL party out pls on February 20th, 2009 1.49 am
Tan Kin Lian should announce a new party asap, and pronounce aiming at a GRC. it could be a treat to PAP, and if they do not think it as a treat, we’ll see what we can do to give them a Storm! ///

/// 21) isa on February 20th, 2009 3.30 am
I favor Tan KL as he has been a pappie all his life..
I think if he gets in.. he will grab the pappies by the balls..
He should be very good as he is a CEO before and he knows the way of the system. ///

Yes, TKL will be a treat to the PAP - a real treat. While you are giving them a treat, while not treat us to an ice cream? Is TKL a THREAT to the PAP? No way. He has already showed his hand too early, and the PAP is ready for him come what may.

isa - I presume you are thinking of TKL standing for the Elected President? I wonder who will be grabbing whose balls. Remember OTC - he has been a Pappy all those years and what happened? Knowing the way of the system is not going to get you anywhere if your intention is to rock the boat or change the system. The system will change you - just look at V.  Also, remember that TKL was not fielded as an MP despite toiling for decades doing grassroot work.

Just my $0.02</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/// 18) TKL party out pls on February 20th, 2009 1.49 am<br />
Tan Kin Lian should announce a new party asap, and pronounce aiming at a GRC. it could be a treat to PAP, and if they do not think it as a treat, we’ll see what we can do to give them a Storm! ///</p>
<p>/// 21) isa on February 20th, 2009 3.30 am<br />
I favor Tan KL as he has been a pappie all his life..<br />
I think if he gets in.. he will grab the pappies by the balls..<br />
He should be very good as he is a CEO before and he knows the way of the system. ///</p>
<p>Yes, TKL will be a treat to the PAP &#8211; a real treat. While you are giving them a treat, while not treat us to an ice cream? Is TKL a THREAT to the PAP? No way. He has already showed his hand too early, and the PAP is ready for him come what may.</p>
<p>isa &#8211; I presume you are thinking of TKL standing for the Elected President? I wonder who will be grabbing whose balls. Remember OTC &#8211; he has been a Pappy all those years and what happened? Knowing the way of the system is not going to get you anywhere if your intention is to rock the boat or change the system. The system will change you &#8211; just look at V.  Also, remember that TKL was not fielded as an MP despite toiling for decades doing grassroot work.</p>
<p>Just my $0.02</p>
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		<title>By: sweet_gingerz</title>
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		<dc:creator>sweet_gingerz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The screenshot is doctored. Visit the actual site and you will realise that it is &quot;2006&quot; and not &quot;2009&quot;. The picture published here is also strategically cropped to leave out the title of &quot;Singapore Votes 2006&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The screenshot is doctored. Visit the actual site and you will realise that it is &#8220;2006&#8243; and not &#8220;2009&#8243;. The picture published here is also strategically cropped to leave out the title of &#8220;Singapore Votes 2006&#8243;.</p>
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		<title>By: Net effort is great but ....</title>
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		<dc:creator>Net effort is great but ....</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 02:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There has been some important progress to educate people about social issues.

However, the audience is only to net users who are non-apathetic. so, not majority of net users is reached and engaged. The other main bulk not reached is the non-surfers and uneducated elderlies. they are the main supporters of .....

On surface there is much progress and even innovative efforts made. But the bottomline remains that many are not engaged.

SUGGESTION :

Number is STRENGTH. 
With STRENGTH, can achieve more.
Residents should be engaged face-to-face. 
Net-engagement is always limited.
Net-engagement is already effective. Effort should now shift to meeting the residents.

Imagine: large groups of Volunteers go around the residential areas every weekend to Talk to them, Ask they how they feel, Get their Feedback, Get their Views, Listen to them, Help them, advice them.

Can this be done? 

But 1st TKL needs to formally declare and open his Alternative Party.

I believe 1 thousand volunteers is possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has been some important progress to educate people about social issues.</p>
<p>However, the audience is only to net users who are non-apathetic. so, not majority of net users is reached and engaged. The other main bulk not reached is the non-surfers and uneducated elderlies. they are the main supporters of &#8230;..</p>
<p>On surface there is much progress and even innovative efforts made. But the bottomline remains that many are not engaged.</p>
<p>SUGGESTION :</p>
<p>Number is STRENGTH.<br />
With STRENGTH, can achieve more.<br />
Residents should be engaged face-to-face.<br />
Net-engagement is always limited.<br />
Net-engagement is already effective. Effort should now shift to meeting the residents.</p>
<p>Imagine: large groups of Volunteers go around the residential areas every weekend to Talk to them, Ask they how they feel, Get their Feedback, Get their Views, Listen to them, Help them, advice them.</p>
<p>Can this be done? </p>
<p>But 1st TKL needs to formally declare and open his Alternative Party.</p>
<p>I believe 1 thousand volunteers is possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Those who join PAP</title>
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		<dc:creator>Those who join PAP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those who join the PAP hope to be called up to stand for election and become an MP earning $250,000 per year. Or if luck would have it become one of the millionaire ministers.  Well, with the GRC in place, about 80% of PAP MPs are hollow and shallow; they have not  experienced working the ground to becoming an MP.

Most of the PAP ministers were invited to join the party. Those who have joined the PAP hoping to rise through the ranks would be totally dissapointed

The most one would benefit from being in the PAP  is 5 visits from LKY. Beyond that you are just cheap labour for the PAP elite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who join the PAP hope to be called up to stand for election and become an MP earning $250,000 per year. Or if luck would have it become one of the millionaire ministers.  Well, with the GRC in place, about 80% of PAP MPs are hollow and shallow; they have not  experienced working the ground to becoming an MP.</p>
<p>Most of the PAP ministers were invited to join the party. Those who have joined the PAP hoping to rise through the ranks would be totally dissapointed</p>
<p>The most one would benefit from being in the PAP  is 5 visits from LKY. Beyond that you are just cheap labour for the PAP elite.</p>
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		<title>By: Khoo Yong Li</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khoo Yong Li</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>58) sucker on February 21st, 2009 5.32 pm 

you may be right. afterall, most elderly people mostly do not surf blogs to see what is going on. Luckily, they rely on MSM  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>58) sucker on February 21st, 2009 5.32 pm </p>
<p>you may be right. afterall, most elderly people mostly do not surf blogs to see what is going on. Luckily, they rely on MSM  ;)</p>
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		<title>By: kiu-lo-kiu-tua-tu</title>
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		<dc:creator>kiu-lo-kiu-tua-tu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What I love about PAP MPs is that they are willing to do self-sacrificial passionate work …for a decent price.&quot;

In Hokkien parlance, it is called kiu-lo-kiu-tua-tu (the whole road is full of such).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What I love about PAP MPs is that they are willing to do self-sacrificial passionate work …for a decent price.&#8221;</p>
<p>In Hokkien parlance, it is called kiu-lo-kiu-tua-tu (the whole road is full of such).</p>
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		<title>By: ErniesUrn (Ernie)</title>
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		<dc:creator>ErniesUrn (Ernie)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I love about PAP MPs is that they are willing to do self-sacrificial passionate work ...for a decent price. Big decent price. For a change, can some of them quit PAP and do the same passionate work they are doing now?  

For one, you will earn my respect and others too. Please don&#039;t say I&#039;m crazy to suggest this hor, because there is one perspn doing this FOC and he oso wants to run for the Presidency. For 2, save tax payers money. From my books, that is what I call ..a bargin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I love about PAP MPs is that they are willing to do self-sacrificial passionate work &#8230;for a decent price. Big decent price. For a change, can some of them quit PAP and do the same passionate work they are doing now?  </p>
<p>For one, you will earn my respect and others too. Please don&#8217;t say I&#8217;m crazy to suggest this hor, because there is one perspn doing this FOC and he oso wants to run for the Presidency. For 2, save tax payers money. From my books, that is what I call ..a bargin.</p>
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		<title>By: Tan Kee Moon</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/02/toc-breaking-news-mainstream-media-preparing-for-ge2009/comment-page-2/#comment-53435</link>
		<dc:creator>Tan Kee Moon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 07:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>allow me :

as long as the alternatives could not create a environment where all eligible voters get to vote , i believe history will repeat itself till no end.

many fundamental root obstacles not tackled or cannot be tackled which means.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>allow me :</p>
<p>as long as the alternatives could not create a environment where all eligible voters get to vote , i believe history will repeat itself till no end.</p>
<p>many fundamental root obstacles not tackled or cannot be tackled which means&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: HeardOnly</title>
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		<dc:creator>HeardOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 04:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was told that MediaCorp is among the first to know of GE dates so it can make sure that its mobile studios, crews, network links and other equipment are available.on those days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was told that MediaCorp is among the first to know of GE dates so it can make sure that its mobile studios, crews, network links and other equipment are available.on those days.</p>
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		<title>By: tiredsingaporean</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiredsingaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>63) Gilbert Goh on February 21st, 2009 8.30 pm

Gilbert! I guess there are only 2 kind of people here in singapore, that is why its so dman difficult to look forward to any much changes to the present system. The first kind is those rich ones or those who&#039;d already made their marks and would prefer to stay away from trouble, and the other kind which is those who are still suffering and complaining ones, and when time is ripe for them to play their part, they would just stick their heads into the sand and waiting for some others to come out and take the leads. This kind is the worse kiasu type and they would always be the ones that will ask alot of kiasu and kia see questions instead of doing their part when time calls for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>63) Gilbert Goh on February 21st, 2009 8.30 pm</p>
<p>Gilbert! I guess there are only 2 kind of people here in singapore, that is why its so dman difficult to look forward to any much changes to the present system. The first kind is those rich ones or those who&#8217;d already made their marks and would prefer to stay away from trouble, and the other kind which is those who are still suffering and complaining ones, and when time is ripe for them to play their part, they would just stick their heads into the sand and waiting for some others to come out and take the leads. This kind is the worse kiasu type and they would always be the ones that will ask alot of kiasu and kia see questions instead of doing their part when time calls for.</p>
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		<title>By: SZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>71) Andrew Yap

which is what i hope for too...now in a overall victory for opposition but an increase in seat for the opposition to express our voice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>71) Andrew Yap</p>
<p>which is what i hope for too&#8230;now in a overall victory for opposition but an increase in seat for the opposition to express our voice</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Yap</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/02/toc-breaking-news-mainstream-media-preparing-for-ge2009/comment-page-2/#comment-53361</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Yap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, i think we should not even be talking about win or loose as in overall win or loose.

I feel that what we are expecting or hoping for is some Progress , if u know what i mean.   ;)

It would be considered a WIN, to me ,if there is improvement in results. Will we see more of them inside there to voice up for us? 

So, for me, i am not asking or hoping for alternative to win overall. Just a few more seats would be good since so many think alternative since the last E as shown by the turnout. This , to me, means this lot of people needs to be represented in that house. Its only logical and fair, imho.

The only question is : will every eligibles get to cast?  As the population has increased significantly, so too should the number of &#039;casters&#039;. 

juz me 1.499 cent</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, i think we should not even be talking about win or loose as in overall win or loose.</p>
<p>I feel that what we are expecting or hoping for is some Progress , if u know what i mean.   ;)</p>
<p>It would be considered a WIN, to me ,if there is improvement in results. Will we see more of them inside there to voice up for us? </p>
<p>So, for me, i am not asking or hoping for alternative to win overall. Just a few more seats would be good since so many think alternative since the last E as shown by the turnout. This , to me, means this lot of people needs to be represented in that house. Its only logical and fair, imho.</p>
<p>The only question is : will every eligibles get to cast?  As the population has increased significantly, so too should the number of &#8216;casters&#8217;. </p>
<p>juz me 1.499 cent</p>
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		<title>By: CelluloidReality</title>
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		<dc:creator>CelluloidReality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its a generational issue. The strategies can only work if the audience is a capable receiver. 

A look at the electorate will show that while internet based informational flows are growing, the majority of Singaporeans are born before independance, aren&#039;t English educated or have an education beyond a diploma. 

Hence, while I am pessimistic that we will have a more plural polity this election, the wave of change will come because of a generational shift in electoral demographics in the next 10-20 years. 

As to whether the current model can prosper Singapore for 20 more years, I don&#039;t really know anymore. In fact, I would even say that the social compact is beginning to unravel. 

Lastly, newly naturalised citizens usually aren&#039;t socialised as much as the rest of local-born Singaporeans, hence one should not readily place them in the voting camp of the ruling party. These people have seen far more than the average voter, and while their concerns are mainly economics, I&#039;m quietly confident that they are not easily hooked by pork-barrel policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a generational issue. The strategies can only work if the audience is a capable receiver. </p>
<p>A look at the electorate will show that while internet based informational flows are growing, the majority of Singaporeans are born before independance, aren&#8217;t English educated or have an education beyond a diploma. </p>
<p>Hence, while I am pessimistic that we will have a more plural polity this election, the wave of change will come because of a generational shift in electoral demographics in the next 10-20 years. </p>
<p>As to whether the current model can prosper Singapore for 20 more years, I don&#8217;t really know anymore. In fact, I would even say that the social compact is beginning to unravel. </p>
<p>Lastly, newly naturalised citizens usually aren&#8217;t socialised as much as the rest of local-born Singaporeans, hence one should not readily place them in the voting camp of the ruling party. These people have seen far more than the average voter, and while their concerns are mainly economics, I&#8217;m quietly confident that they are not easily hooked by pork-barrel policies.</p>
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		<title>By: At least 57% will vote for PAP</title>
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		<dc:creator>At least 57% will vote for PAP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no way in which the opposition can win enough seats to form at least 5% of the seats in parliament. This is based on following survey and observation

85% of the citizens live in HDB flats. Survey shows that at least 60% will  vote for the PAP no matter what situation. This translates to 51% of the votes for the HDB heart lands. Of the 15% who lives in private property,  40% is likely to vote for them. This means 6%, so they are almsot certain of getting at least 57% of the popular votes.

The opposition can huff and puff, but they would not move one bit of the solid PAP edifice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no way in which the opposition can win enough seats to form at least 5% of the seats in parliament. This is based on following survey and observation</p>
<p>85% of the citizens live in HDB flats. Survey shows that at least 60% will  vote for the PAP no matter what situation. This translates to 51% of the votes for the HDB heart lands. Of the 15% who lives in private property,  40% is likely to vote for them. This means 6%, so they are almsot certain of getting at least 57% of the popular votes.</p>
<p>The opposition can huff and puff, but they would not move one bit of the solid PAP edifice.</p>
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		<title>By: SZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>63) Rodney Quek Leng Lee 

We won&#039;t know until we try, and if everybody think in such a manner whereby because of some reason or some stereotype, there is no point in trying to change it even a little bit, and that&#039;s when we end up stagnant. I am not suggesting that we will change the whole system directly, but we can try to be a catalyst and try to push it along.

you don&#039;t start everything with a critical mass, you have to build it up sometimes from scratch.

however, Gilbert Goh is quite right, the way things stand now, even if the condition is ideal for the opposition, PAP will still win. what i just hope for is a higher percentage of voters that switch over to the opposition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>63) Rodney Quek Leng Lee </p>
<p>We won&#8217;t know until we try, and if everybody think in such a manner whereby because of some reason or some stereotype, there is no point in trying to change it even a little bit, and that&#8217;s when we end up stagnant. I am not suggesting that we will change the whole system directly, but we can try to be a catalyst and try to push it along.</p>
<p>you don&#8217;t start everything with a critical mass, you have to build it up sometimes from scratch.</p>
<p>however, Gilbert Goh is quite right, the way things stand now, even if the condition is ideal for the opposition, PAP will still win. what i just hope for is a higher percentage of voters that switch over to the opposition.</p>
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		<title>By: 2cent</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;61) Gilbert Goh on February 21st, 2009 8.30 pm 

I am afraid even if PAP calls a snap election now, they will still win hands down with hiccups like Selamat MAs, town council’s investment and massive losses of Temasek/GIC. We don’t have a good alternative now.&lt;/b&gt;

It is all about people.  Freedom is not free.  If people are not willing to pay that price for their freedom, then there will never be good alternatives.  There will never be a strong opposition party and strong opposition present in Parliament.

If people were willing to vote in any opposition for the sake of sending a message to PAP enough is enough, then we will see progress.  If people think the situation is not bad enough to warrent such drastic action, then there is not likely to be much progress.

Democracy is about people taking actions, expressing their views.  There is no democracy if no one is doing that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>61) Gilbert Goh on February 21st, 2009 8.30 pm </p>
<p>I am afraid even if PAP calls a snap election now, they will still win hands down with hiccups like Selamat MAs, town council’s investment and massive losses of Temasek/GIC. We don’t have a good alternative now.</b></p>
<p>It is all about people.  Freedom is not free.  If people are not willing to pay that price for their freedom, then there will never be good alternatives.  There will never be a strong opposition party and strong opposition present in Parliament.</p>
<p>If people were willing to vote in any opposition for the sake of sending a message to PAP enough is enough, then we will see progress.  If people think the situation is not bad enough to warrent such drastic action, then there is not likely to be much progress.</p>
<p>Democracy is about people taking actions, expressing their views.  There is no democracy if no one is doing that.</p>
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