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		<title>By: tiredsingaporean</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/02/toc-international-is-our-politics-any-different-from-chinas/comment-page-2/#comment-53365</link>
		<dc:creator>tiredsingaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyony can assist me, I can&#039;t read any latest comments hee at TOC. Can only read those dated up to 14 Feb only, what happen?</description>
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		<title>By: Terence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My friends always say: Feed the people, cloth them, and give them &quot;little goodies&quot; and they will act nice, do none of that and people rebel. 

I guess this is the policy of our government.

Lets not to say we need to embrace China or Western ideas, Singaporean(tm) ideas would do just fine for now. But lets be clear and practical about this, people would eventually distrust anything that come from government (be come from good or bad intentions)  if they keep putting up &quot;shades&quot; in front of us (media censorship blah blah blah).

But yeah, as long as we can still eat well and dress well, we don&#039;t complain (aka massive demostration). Right?

And I&#039;m pretty sure giving out &quot;short term benefits&quot; can only temperory alleviate tensions right now. But the real worries in my opinion is that Government keep emphasizing on long term plans, with no concrete schedules, no expected realisation. Thus basically, we only heard empty talk of future. There are no contigency model what so ever. From my perspective, our government can only work well in period of stability, in times of uncertainty, I do not have much hope.

What I think that the government must do now is to clarify what is meant to be a Singaporean, if National Service = Singaporean, I&#039;m pretty sure the objective failed, and IMO in reality does pretty much the opposite.

Another thing is the emphasis on entrepreneurship, what I always read on newspaper and news shows are those successful stories of young entrepreneurs, gives a bias picture of what is the true spirit of entrepreneurism. Doing business requires CAPITAL, and where do those youths get those CAPITAL? Think again, most entrepreneurs are actually in their 40s where they actually slugged and saved enough for CAPITAL. Some of those entrepreneurs failed and they are not given voice by the media.

And well, Blogging issues. Isn&#039;t the spirit of blogging is to allow the minority representation to be heard? Oh my... but it seems to me that there are alot of political driven discredition and distortions of blogs.

These are some of the things that the Government had the hand in promoting &#039;apathy&#039;.

Though I guess the rationale of our government is not to promote a welfare state. But it seems that shifting the responsibilities to CITIZENS are just too great and the rewards the CITIZENS get are just too little. Sometimes I feel like I&#039;m actually living in a closed container of sorts, just waiting to get out, even though I&#039;m uncertain if the world outside is better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friends always say: Feed the people, cloth them, and give them &#8220;little goodies&#8221; and they will act nice, do none of that and people rebel. </p>
<p>I guess this is the policy of our government.</p>
<p>Lets not to say we need to embrace China or Western ideas, Singaporean(tm) ideas would do just fine for now. But lets be clear and practical about this, people would eventually distrust anything that come from government (be come from good or bad intentions)  if they keep putting up &#8220;shades&#8221; in front of us (media censorship blah blah blah).</p>
<p>But yeah, as long as we can still eat well and dress well, we don&#8217;t complain (aka massive demostration). Right?</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m pretty sure giving out &#8220;short term benefits&#8221; can only temperory alleviate tensions right now. But the real worries in my opinion is that Government keep emphasizing on long term plans, with no concrete schedules, no expected realisation. Thus basically, we only heard empty talk of future. There are no contigency model what so ever. From my perspective, our government can only work well in period of stability, in times of uncertainty, I do not have much hope.</p>
<p>What I think that the government must do now is to clarify what is meant to be a Singaporean, if National Service = Singaporean, I&#8217;m pretty sure the objective failed, and IMO in reality does pretty much the opposite.</p>
<p>Another thing is the emphasis on entrepreneurship, what I always read on newspaper and news shows are those successful stories of young entrepreneurs, gives a bias picture of what is the true spirit of entrepreneurism. Doing business requires CAPITAL, and where do those youths get those CAPITAL? Think again, most entrepreneurs are actually in their 40s where they actually slugged and saved enough for CAPITAL. Some of those entrepreneurs failed and they are not given voice by the media.</p>
<p>And well, Blogging issues. Isn&#8217;t the spirit of blogging is to allow the minority representation to be heard? Oh my&#8230; but it seems to me that there are alot of political driven discredition and distortions of blogs.</p>
<p>These are some of the things that the Government had the hand in promoting &#8216;apathy&#8217;.</p>
<p>Though I guess the rationale of our government is not to promote a welfare state. But it seems that shifting the responsibilities to CITIZENS are just too great and the rewards the CITIZENS get are just too little. Sometimes I feel like I&#8217;m actually living in a closed container of sorts, just waiting to get out, even though I&#8217;m uncertain if the world outside is better.</p>
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		<title>By: HaiGong</title>
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		<dc:creator>HaiGong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Singapore and China have almost the same system. But Singapore has package it better than China and try to show to the world that we have election and is very democratic??  China is here to learn form the PAP on how to package it better.

#60,  yes China has done better than us in the past few years.

Chinese people know their rights but Singaporean don&#039;t. Why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Singapore and China have almost the same system. But Singapore has package it better than China and try to show to the world that we have election and is very democratic??  China is here to learn form the PAP on how to package it better.</p>
<p>#60,  yes China has done better than us in the past few years.</p>
<p>Chinese people know their rights but Singaporean don&#8217;t. Why?</p>
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		<title>By: smallvice585</title>
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		<dc:creator>smallvice585</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 06:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The politicians and government at the state and lower levels are not necessarily as intolerant as the government at the national level. I guess the feel of democracy one gets in China really depends on where he is in China. 

I notice that the Chinese people not entirely apathetic. During the Melamine Milk Incident, many Chinese parents all over China organised themselves to protest and lobby against the milk industry which was trying to deny all responsibilities. They even took the milk companies to court for specific incidents. As a result, the national government created a compensation scheme for all melamine milk incidents. 

This is a far cry from the 1983 Tian An Men Incident. Comparatively, China has made far more proportional progress politically and socially than Singapore, whereas Singapore has somewhat regressed in the political and social aspects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The politicians and government at the state and lower levels are not necessarily as intolerant as the government at the national level. I guess the feel of democracy one gets in China really depends on where he is in China. </p>
<p>I notice that the Chinese people not entirely apathetic. During the Melamine Milk Incident, many Chinese parents all over China organised themselves to protest and lobby against the milk industry which was trying to deny all responsibilities. They even took the milk companies to court for specific incidents. As a result, the national government created a compensation scheme for all melamine milk incidents. </p>
<p>This is a far cry from the 1983 Tian An Men Incident. Comparatively, China has made far more proportional progress politically and socially than Singapore, whereas Singapore has somewhat regressed in the political and social aspects.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 06:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;While stationed in China last year during my teaching stint there, I always felt that China is so much better than Singapore both in terms of economic and democratic progress.&quot;

Even more so, when China people working in Singapore is so proud of their leaders, and majority want to be back to their country because they really love their country and leaders. Corruption is really punishable by death in China. In Singapore, legalised corruption is greatly rewarded as long as you pledge to certain dynasty family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;While stationed in China last year during my teaching stint there, I always felt that China is so much better than Singapore both in terms of economic and democratic progress.&#8221;</p>
<p>Even more so, when China people working in Singapore is so proud of their leaders, and majority want to be back to their country because they really love their country and leaders. Corruption is really punishable by death in China. In Singapore, legalised corruption is greatly rewarded as long as you pledge to certain dynasty family.</p>
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		<title>By: kingfisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>kingfisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 04:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LKY is not ashamed to keep up the facade of democracy by having elections every 4 years. That has all along been his definition of democracy. Once the elections are over, he wants you to stand aside and let him govern. No need to debate, argue a la Plato or Aristotle. That&#039;s just wasting his time, for he has got the best ideas, best plans, and best team to execute. The rest is just so much blather. Cambridge-law logic, never mind if the best of best crashes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LKY is not ashamed to keep up the facade of democracy by having elections every 4 years. That has all along been his definition of democracy. Once the elections are over, he wants you to stand aside and let him govern. No need to debate, argue a la Plato or Aristotle. That&#8217;s just wasting his time, for he has got the best ideas, best plans, and best team to execute. The rest is just so much blather. Cambridge-law logic, never mind if the best of best crashes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kingrant</title>
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		<dc:creator>kingrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 04:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most likely China and Singapore learnt from great men like:

From Adolf Hitler who said:

&quot;Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way around to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise. &quot;

&quot;I am not a dictator. I have only simplified democracy.&quot;

&quot;The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims of a big lie than a small one.&quot;


And from Benito Mussolini:

&quot;Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power.&quot;

William Shirer:

&quot;You don&#039;t need a totalitarian dictatorship like Hitler&#039;s to get by with murder ... you can do it in a democracy as long as the Congress and the people Congress is supposed to represent don&#039;t give a damn?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most likely China and Singapore learnt from great men like:</p>
<p>From Adolf Hitler who said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way around to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise. &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I am not a dictator. I have only simplified democracy.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims of a big lie than a small one.&#8221;</p>
<p>And from Benito Mussolini:</p>
<p>&#8220;Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power.&#8221;</p>
<p>William Shirer:</p>
<p>&#8220;You don&#8217;t need a totalitarian dictatorship like Hitler&#8217;s to get by with murder &#8230; you can do it in a democracy as long as the Congress and the people Congress is supposed to represent don&#8217;t give a damn?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 13:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an irony! Communist China is more democratic than Democratic Singapore whcih is more communist than Communist China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an irony! Communist China is more democratic than Democratic Singapore whcih is more communist than Communist China.</p>
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		<title>By: Gilbert Goh</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/02/toc-international-is-our-politics-any-different-from-chinas/comment-page-2/#comment-52119</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilbert Goh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 13:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good well written article by Jason.

While stationed in China last year during my teaching stint there, I always felt that China is so much better than Singapore both in terms of economic and democratic progress.

In communist China, I must say that I have never feel being controlled or curtailed in my movement.

BAck home in Singapore, I always feel that I cant say this and that for fear that ISD will come after me. This is indeed ironical.

I witnessed the Olympic protest in Wuhan by uni students when there was some issue with the French during the torch relay in PAris.

Though massive (around 1000 over students),  I have never felt threatened or thought that my life is in danger. In fact, I thought that the Chinese were very much partriotic and loyal to their country and cause. Demonstration in China is disallowed and dissidents can be thrown in jail.

I don&#039;t think we can see such a massive outpouring of patriotism here in Singapore. Anyway, before we can take to the street, we will be arrested already.

Betwwen China and Singapore, I see that China will continue to progress both economically and democratically. Singapore to me continues to regress as it has always being  during these past few years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good well written article by Jason.</p>
<p>While stationed in China last year during my teaching stint there, I always felt that China is so much better than Singapore both in terms of economic and democratic progress.</p>
<p>In communist China, I must say that I have never feel being controlled or curtailed in my movement.</p>
<p>BAck home in Singapore, I always feel that I cant say this and that for fear that ISD will come after me. This is indeed ironical.</p>
<p>I witnessed the Olympic protest in Wuhan by uni students when there was some issue with the French during the torch relay in PAris.</p>
<p>Though massive (around 1000 over students),  I have never felt threatened or thought that my life is in danger. In fact, I thought that the Chinese were very much partriotic and loyal to their country and cause. Demonstration in China is disallowed and dissidents can be thrown in jail.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we can see such a massive outpouring of patriotism here in Singapore. Anyway, before we can take to the street, we will be arrested already.</p>
<p>Betwwen China and Singapore, I see that China will continue to progress both economically and democratically. Singapore to me continues to regress as it has always being  during these past few years.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 06:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo , TOC for going international ! glad to see this happening . When I suggested to Mr John Ang for his article when he go to NYU , he can be our American correspondent . Heard that our Editor in chief Mr Choo Zheng xi is also going to NYU ! Kudos ! We should mobilize the overseas Singaporeans to be on- site correspondents all over the world ! Way to go to match ST in global reach  !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo , TOC for going international ! glad to see this happening . When I suggested to Mr John Ang for his article when he go to NYU , he can be our American correspondent . Heard that our Editor in chief Mr Choo Zheng xi is also going to NYU ! Kudos ! We should mobilize the overseas Singaporeans to be on- site correspondents all over the world ! Way to go to match ST in global reach  !</p>
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		<title>By: Wee Su Su</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wee Su Su</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one thing i can say about singaporeans is they very contented.
case in point, give them credits and rebats , they happy liao.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one thing i can say about singaporeans is they very contented.<br />
case in point, give them credits and rebats , they happy liao.</p>
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		<title>By: Find Niches</title>
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		<dc:creator>Find Niches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 03:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just stumbled upon this place - excellent content here - adding your feed!</description>
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		<title>By: Concerned Netizen de Pora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concerned Netizen de Pora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 03:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guten Tag!

YES! We CAN!!!!!!</description>
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<p>YES! We CAN!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Malaysia News World &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekend Roundup: Week 07</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malaysia News World &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekend Roundup: Week 07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 02:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: smallvice585</title>
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		<dc:creator>smallvice585</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;which country in the world ever was something close to a sg-type of system (need not be the same but kind of the same in some ways) that was TRANSFORMED or REFORMED or EVOLVED into something more like USA style of system?&lt;/i&gt; - &lt;b&gt;40) Virginia Valentine on February 13th, 2009 9.44 pm&lt;/b&gt;

You must be thinking of South Korea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>which country in the world ever was something close to a sg-type of system (need not be the same but kind of the same in some ways) that was TRANSFORMED or REFORMED or EVOLVED into something more like USA style of system?</i> &#8211; <b>40) Virginia Valentine on February 13th, 2009 9.44 pm</b></p>
<p>You must be thinking of South Korea.</p>
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		<title>By: tiredsingaporean</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiredsingaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>29) Transparency on February 13th, 2009 11.21 am
Therein is the basic fault of our political mechanism, its been planned in such a way that a select few will always remain immune. Many believe that change in the political landscape must come form within the party but that is never likely to happen for power will always remain in the hands will of the very select few and their families.

The political landscape here will never change no matter how hard you try. Everything in the system are built only towards the benefit of the present party, whether you call it dirty, under-handed or unscroupolous system, they don&#039;t give a damn shit, its politics and its a very dirty one too. Well, unless there are really powerful foreign intervention coming in, only then, maybe singaporeans may still see some hope, or else stay put and wait to die the way they want you to die. If the govt can just rob you of your cpf life saving outright, imagine what other dirtier things they can do to you. We are all trapped here just like slaves because we allowed them in the first place, its our mistake, a very BIG one rather.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>29) Transparency on February 13th, 2009 11.21 am<br />
Therein is the basic fault of our political mechanism, its been planned in such a way that a select few will always remain immune. Many believe that change in the political landscape must come form within the party but that is never likely to happen for power will always remain in the hands will of the very select few and their families.</p>
<p>The political landscape here will never change no matter how hard you try. Everything in the system are built only towards the benefit of the present party, whether you call it dirty, under-handed or unscroupolous system, they don&#8217;t give a damn shit, its politics and its a very dirty one too. Well, unless there are really powerful foreign intervention coming in, only then, maybe singaporeans may still see some hope, or else stay put and wait to die the way they want you to die. If the govt can just rob you of your cpf life saving outright, imagine what other dirtier things they can do to you. We are all trapped here just like slaves because we allowed them in the first place, its our mistake, a very BIG one rather.</p>
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		<title>By: tiredsingaporean</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiredsingaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>29) Transparency on February 13th, 2009 11.21 am
Therein is the basic fault of our political mechanism, its been planned in such a way that a select few will always remain immune. Many believe that change in the political landscape must come form within the party but that is never likely to happen for power will always remain in the hands will of the very select few and their families.

The political landscape here will never change no matter how hard you try. Everything in the system are built only towards the benefit of the present party, whether you call it dirty, under-handed or unscroupolous system, they don&#039;t give a damn shit, its politics and its a very dirty one too. Well, unless there are really powerful foreign intervention coming in, only then, maybe singaporeans may still see some hope, or else stay put and wait to die the way they want you die. If the govt can just rob you of your cpf life saving outright, imagine what other dirtier things they can do to you. We are all trapped here just like slaves because we allowed them in the first place, its our mistake, a very BIG one rather.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>29) Transparency on February 13th, 2009 11.21 am<br />
Therein is the basic fault of our political mechanism, its been planned in such a way that a select few will always remain immune. Many believe that change in the political landscape must come form within the party but that is never likely to happen for power will always remain in the hands will of the very select few and their families.</p>
<p>The political landscape here will never change no matter how hard you try. Everything in the system are built only towards the benefit of the present party, whether you call it dirty, under-handed or unscroupolous system, they don&#8217;t give a damn shit, its politics and its a very dirty one too. Well, unless there are really powerful foreign intervention coming in, only then, maybe singaporeans may still see some hope, or else stay put and wait to die the way they want you die. If the govt can just rob you of your cpf life saving outright, imagine what other dirtier things they can do to you. We are all trapped here just like slaves because we allowed them in the first place, its our mistake, a very BIG one rather.</p>
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		<title>By: Palpit Stoppation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palpit Stoppation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Description about the Author is , i quote, &quot;
Disappointed with the apathetic attitude towards politics of many Singaporeaans, he feels that  “we a need a political revival in our country. We need to have a stronger say and stand in running of our country, this is what a true democratic country should be.”

Concur that it makes me very sad  to also realised that the strong majority of singaporeans are so apathetic.  Since 10 years ago, I observed this as a problem. Till now, i only see the problem getting worse.

I was apathetic when young. Slowly, with more information and spending time to analyze the news, I was lucky to have awakened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Description about the Author is , i quote, &#8221;<br />
Disappointed with the apathetic attitude towards politics of many Singaporeaans, he feels that  “we a need a political revival in our country. We need to have a stronger say and stand in running of our country, this is what a true democratic country should be.”</p>
<p>Concur that it makes me very sad  to also realised that the strong majority of singaporeans are so apathetic.  Since 10 years ago, I observed this as a problem. Till now, i only see the problem getting worse.</p>
<p>I was apathetic when young. Slowly, with more information and spending time to analyze the news, I was lucky to have awakened.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#38) i on February 13th, 2009 9.17 pm 
However, one has to understand that without power, one can hardly make any significant change to the society that we live in. 
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You have the power. You can make change.

If every TOC reader who believes in democracy and human rights thinks of one idea each, you will have thousand of ideas to challenge the power of the PAP and force them to make changes.

I can think of some ideas:
1 Write letters to your MP listing your grouses and offer solutions.
2 Encourage your relatives, friends and neighbours to do the same.
3 Help them to write letters if they are not well-versed in  English.
4 If more like-minded citizens send letters to their MPs they would be so inundated with mails that they cannot simply ignore all these grievances.
5 Pubicize TOC web-site to your friends, colleagues, etc.
6 Pass the Hammer (or other Opp newsletters) to your friends, neighbours, etc after reading it.
7 If you can afford, pay for the Hammer to be sent to pro-PAP colleagues, neighbours, etc. anonymously if you prefer.
8, 9,......... there are more.........................</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#38) i on February 13th, 2009 9.17 pm<br />
However, one has to understand that without power, one can hardly make any significant change to the society that we live in.<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>You have the power. You can make change.</p>
<p>If every TOC reader who believes in democracy and human rights thinks of one idea each, you will have thousand of ideas to challenge the power of the PAP and force them to make changes.</p>
<p>I can think of some ideas:<br />
1 Write letters to your MP listing your grouses and offer solutions.<br />
2 Encourage your relatives, friends and neighbours to do the same.<br />
3 Help them to write letters if they are not well-versed in  English.<br />
4 If more like-minded citizens send letters to their MPs they would be so inundated with mails that they cannot simply ignore all these grievances.<br />
5 Pubicize TOC web-site to your friends, colleagues, etc.<br />
6 Pass the Hammer (or other Opp newsletters) to your friends, neighbours, etc after reading it.<br />
7 If you can afford, pay for the Hammer to be sent to pro-PAP colleagues, neighbours, etc. anonymously if you prefer.<br />
8, 9,&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; there are more&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: SZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>40) Virginia Valentine

Something that comes in mind will be Japan as due to U.S intervention, the divine emperor which was considered as the descendant of Sun-Goddess Amaterasu lost the right to that claim and can only be recognized as descendant of Amaterasu, losing their divinity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>40) Virginia Valentine</p>
<p>Something that comes in mind will be Japan as due to U.S intervention, the divine emperor which was considered as the descendant of Sun-Goddess Amaterasu lost the right to that claim and can only be recognized as descendant of Amaterasu, losing their divinity.</p>
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