Latest Update: The student involved in the stabbing of a lecturer at Nanyang Technological University (NTU) has been identified as a David Widjaya, according to a report that appeared in the Lianhe Wanbao. (AsiaOne)
From the Straits Times:
AN information engineering professor at the Nanyang Technological University was rushed to hospital after he was allegedly stabbed by a final year student in his office on Monday morning. Moments later, the body of the undergraduate was found at the foot of the seven-storey School of Electrical, Electronic and Engineering building.
NTU students returning from their mid-term one-week break were shocked at the double tragedies which happened at about 10.30am on the sixth floor, where the offices of the lecturers are located. The School of EEE is next to the School of Communications.
Prof Chan Kap Luk is said to be the supervisor of the student in a project.
The body of the student is still lying on the grass verge.
Read the full report here.
Read also: Indonesian student stabs professor, found dead in Singapore by The Jakarta Post.
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Press statement from the Nanyang Technological University:
University Statement :
A final year student, David Hartanto Widjaja, 21, from the electrical and electronic engineering school is believed to have stabbed Associate Professor Chan Kap Luk, 45, this morning, 2 March 2009 and to have subsequently fallen off the linkway between two blocks. The ambulance and the police were called immediately. Mr Widjaja was pronounced dead. Mr Widjaja’s parents and Prof Chan’s family members have been notified. Prof Chan is receiving medical treatment at the National University Hospital and is recovering well.
The university board of trustees, management and the NTU community, much saddened by the tragic loss, express heartfelt condolences to the family of Mr Widjaja.
President NTU, Dr Su Guaning, says, “The university is deeply shocked and saddened by what has happened. The matter will be investigated thoroughly. The university community will rally together at this difficult time and do our utmost to help the student’s family, the professor and his family, and those traumatised by the incident.”
The University’s counselling professionals have been mobilized to help and the school is assisting the police with investigations.
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I really feel sad and sorry to hear about this case. God rest David Hartanto Wdijaja. David had displayed great aptitude in various fields, notably Maths, Science and Engineering. He had indeed academically excelled in exams. Though he was not local, he had established great popularity within the School and became a president in one of the student societies.
It would appear that either David or the prof was wrong, that’s as may be, but I don’t think it is right for me to voice my judgment, and I personally feel that it was a matter between the Prof and David. It seems that they had a very tension relationship. From the media, I understand that David’s academic performance was declining; however, this does not indicate that he was losing his seriousness in studying. It might be due to the awful stress while pursuing his FYP.
I would like to tell about an awfully unforgettable experience when doing my project while studying in Singapore. I am a Malaysian Chinese and I was studying Engineering. I constantly got harsh comments from one of my supervisors. Generally speaking, lecturers are normally friendly and approachable because at the end of the course, they aim high marks from student evaluation. It would appear that my prof was one of the most friendly and approachable person on earth until he became my project supervisor.
I first knew the prof in one of my course and later I chose him to be my supervisor. After more than half a year into the project, I was told to drop my project! To this day, I am still keeping several emails with harsh words from him in my ALUMNI mailbox! During our one-on-one meeting, I constantly received harsh words. I was once being scolded for informing him to attend my FYP presentation, though the university requires project supervisors to attend student presentation “Shall I quit and you become my boss?” he yelled for there was no reason for a supervisor to listen to a student. I was extremely sad then as my supervisor did not like my work and he commented that I would get a C or D; while I thought I would get an A; however, I was determined to complete all the project requirement, continue with my programming task, simulation, thesis writing and finally, presentation. During the presentation, he attended the presentation, together with two external examiners. It turned out that the external examiners were satisfied with my work. I could not believe that I got an A for my project, and nominated as a gold medalist for being the best graduate for the degree!!!!
My advice is “Switch of your ears and the big old melon of yours. Learn to switch off.” when you constantly get harsh critics and comments from your supervisors. Work hard and stay focused with your work. Though you might have sleepless nights because of the harsh words, learn to switch off… switch off… God rest David.
Regards,
A gold medalist from Malaysia
its a case of FS and FT lah, the prof is from china too, which part dont know.
RIP.
Firstly, I think it is unfair to make sweeping statements like Singaporeans being ‘heartless’ and sorts. True that there are some netizens who have made rather dumb and insulting comments but tell me which country is free of such people?
Secondly, what’s more important after this tragic incident is that we learn to cherish and respect one another, regardless of our nationality, race and creed.
Lets not use too much emotions over this issue. Personally, the Singapore’s education system is good and efficient and no matter how much amount of gripes we have over it, it does make us a better person. There’s no system that is perfect. We have to learn to give and take, this is the way our imperfect world is. But lets not be pessimistic. There’s more to life than just living for yourself.
I sincerely share my condolences to the deceased, the injured professor and their loved ones.
And Cheney, I am proud to be a Singaporean, while acknowledging the shortcomings of my country.
ref: 82) FOREIGNER on March 3rd, 2009 8.29 pm
Hey FOREIGNER, while I do admit that some foreigners do contribute to Singapore’s economy, there are also some that destroys it. In fact, actually Singapore could have refused foreigners’ entry here, if not for our large economy ie if our economy had been smaller, the demand for foreigners wouldn’t be so huge.
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ref: 83) Theodora Citra Angkasa Tan on March 3rd, 2009 9.05 pm
Hello.
I’m not trying to say that all Indonesians are bad. In fact, I blame my own govt more than Indonesians because they’re the main reason why many foreigners, including Indonesians, come to Singapore to seek proper education. I don’t mind if a small handful comes, but the numbers just keeps coming in and is way out of proportion compared to Singapore population.
ref: 101) Sherry on March 4th, 2009 1.56 pm
“what if david weren’t an indonesian? i guess the bad comments here wouldn’t be so cruel and harsh”
hello sherry,
sorry but the bad comments will always be there because the current situation in Singapore is such that there are too many foreigners here in Singapore, thereby creating this general sentiment. Perhaps you hadn’t been exposed to the ‘real world’ yet…
ref: 99) randomnessinmind on March 4th, 2009 11.26 am
“And although I must admit the anti-foreigner sentiments are growing in Singapore….I must say….there’s nothing I can do. I alone, nor many others out there can’t make a change to that.”
there can be a change, just that most people didn’t cherish it during elections.
“sorry but the bad comments will always be there because the current situation in Singapore is such that there are too many foreigners here in Singapore, thereby creating this general sentiment. Perhaps you hadn’t been exposed to the ‘real world’ yet…”
well, if you must know, the chinese descendants in indonesia are also treated badly. i’m very used to discrimination towards me because i’m a chinese indonesian. yes, the bad comments and responds are always be there… reality bites dude
Thanks MalaysianChinese for your sharing. Yes, there are some lecturers who are not exactly smart but tried to behave and work like one, throwing their weight around.
I know what he is talking about coz I’ve some ex-classmates who after getting their master deg., became trainers, gave their students grades stingily & made life difficult for them; at times, they couldn’t even explain to the students where things have gone wrong with their assignments & simply tried to avoid answering the questions (students’ feedback/ sought my assist.). Sometimes students’ grades suffer coz they don’t have good lecturers (ya, hard luck really if you encounter one). When I was studying together with some of these trainers previously, they did not really do well in their studies but ultimately, they had their master certs with average results & finally ended up as trainers coz of their charisma, abilities to talk well, hence winning interviewers over. When I was studying myself, I preferred MOST of my Western lecturers compared to SOME locals who belong to the category of what Chinese said, “OK to be smart but don’t try to be smart when you are not.” I find MOST (not ALL) of the Ang Moh lecturers very knowledgeable, resourceful and compassionate; I learnt a lot from them & get better grades too compared to SOME of the stingy locals (don’t think they themselves are really smart, honestly). When I was very ill, undergoing a major operation, the Western lecturer then dropped the assignment deadline & asked me to take my time to finish my work. He was really kind indeed. So, I did my assignment without stress (knowing there was no deadline)in the hospital.
I heard stories from students about unsympathetic lecturers who did not recognize medical leave etc.
Of course there’re SOME local lecturers who are very knowledgeable & kind too & one will be fortunate if you encounter such ones (I did encounter 2 out of 5 locals in my cohort).
Anyway, it’s really a blessing to have good lecturers & a curse to have a lousy one indeed if you truly want to study well & make the grade.
One could tell that the deceased was a filial boy as he daren’t reveal the truth of his failure to his mum. In a way, sensible & so how could a sensible boy ended up in this tragic state ???? Was it the result of a poor supportive environment despite all the claims that “we’ve done this & that for the students’ welfare”?? Are we doing enough ?? Definitely no. You read, “….we have so many students but not many counsellors…we can’t visit all students…..” So, don’t be greedy & accept so many undergrads if you don’t have enough manpower. The end result is disastrous.
A friend of mine has a child studying in States & according to her, the varsity arranged a couple who are lecturing at the varsity to be her child’s guardians;
likewise for the other undergrads. Yes, this should be the way….we should emulate their approach. Yes, EVERY LIFE IS PRECIOUS, I repeat.
God Bless
Firstly, I think it is unfair to make sweeping statements like Singaporeans being ‘heartless’ and sorts. True that there are some netizens who have made rather dumb and insulting comments but tell me which country is free of such people?
Secondly, what’s more important after this tragic incident is that we learn to cherish and respect one another, regardless of our nationality, race and creed.
Lets not use too much emotions over this issue. Personally, the Singapore’s education system is good and efficient and no matter how much amount of gripes we have over it, it does make us a better person. There’s no system that is perfect. We have to learn to give and take, this is the way our imperfect world is. But lets not be pessimistic. There’s more to life than just living for yourself.
I sincerely share my condolences to the deceased, the injured professor and their loved ones.
And Cheney, I am proud to be a Singaporean, while acknowledging the shortcomings of my country.
87) Poor Undergrad on March 3rd, 2009 9.43 pm
S’pore had also lent large sums of $ to your native country. But how the $ is used in your country is another matter.
Also you said that 50% of our $ come from indonesia? But is it a gift from Indonesians or through some sort of service or goods provided?
to tell you the plain truth, Indonesian government sucks, they have NEVER been any right. and us, the chinese indonesians are not tempted to fix the government, because we know it will be hopeless. We are such a small number of people compared to the native indonesians, with all “still-going-on” race and religion discriminations between chinese indonesians, chrisitanity and islam, we dont really care about it, and allow nature to take its course. And as I am speaking as a chinese indonesian who brought up in a chinese indonesians traditional environment, we, never consider ourselves to be in the same country as the natives. so, the $$$ singapore lent to indonesia, is to indonesia, not for chinese indonesians. and mind you, they will just corrupt it all the way, and never improve any services, so, we, dont get the profit of it.
Yes, it is considered a gift, but as you mentioned earlier on, to restrict foreigners coming to singapore? From you tone, I take that as you want to banish all the foreigners especially Indonesians from Singapore. so, what will happen if Singapore government dont allow Indonesians to study here? How will the Indonesians react? Nobody will go to your Singapore, and you know yourself of what will happen next to singapore.
Im not saying that what all I got from Singapore is just the pain and unhappy memories, I do have happy memories. I admit some Singaporeans are nice, especially some of my schoolmates, but teachers? NO.
and mind you, I found out my schoolmates, they be friend with me because my family got the money, that I could take them for treats and all. Some people are like that, but some, no, they are actually quite nice. But, what my point here, is, that MOSTLY you all Singaporeans share the same chromosomes; which means, same basic characteristics. My teachers; almost all are very discriminative of me, because they learnt Im an Indonesian. Though they dont show it, but I could feel it, they way they look at me, and talk to me.
Even my favorite teacher, my art teacher, dont give a damn with me, i mean, she is still playing fair, though, that she compliments my really nice works, then just ignoring it, but, when I talk to her, she reacts differently as what she usually do with other students. Im asking you, WHY?
WHY are you all developing anti-foreigners feelings here? What have we done to you? I dont get the fresh reasons for that.
Hi everyone,
I know the issue is an emotional one and with more than 8,000 views for this article alone, opinions would differ.
Please lets keep it civil and not get into this singapore/indonesia bashing. If this goes on, this thread may be closed for further posting.
Thanks.
most indonesian here on studies are rich in the first place. What the f do they need the scholarship for.
I’m front NTU ADM, most of the time the indonesians are slacking off, delaying the deadline and learning curve of the class.
Obviously from the look of their face ,they dont care much. In the end of day , they will go off to the states.
So y shouldn’t singaporean be hostile towards this bunch of rich playboys .
I remember a NS friend who jumped off a block fo flat when he failed his NUS exam twice during his first year.
The pressure of our society to excel sometimes drive people to do silly thing.
I dont think it is wrong to admit foreign scholars but perhaps more can be done to help them adapt to the Singaporean culture.
I have seen many foreign students here stay in at home during weekend playing computer games or watching TV. the whole day This is not only unhealthy physically but psychologically.
Their life is wrapped round their stiudies and nothing else and when they fail their exam, their whole world came crushing down.
I hope that all varsities will try to help these poor lonely foreign students adapt to our cutlure.
Having work abroad for a while, nothing is worse than feeling all alone without anyone to support you when the chips are down. The feeling can be depressive and devastating.
it was majin from the game we used to play called Destiny Online, i heard that david had problems with grades because of the game and lost his scholarship
May all of you live in peace and harmony.
May all be well, happy and sound.
May there be loving kindness towards all beings.
May there be compassion always.
May there be joy and great healing for the world.
GUYS, DROP THE COMMENT ON PROUD OR NOT PROUD OR EVEN SHAMEFUL TO BE WHATEVER CITIZEN. NOW THE LATEST UPDATE OF THE STORY IS THAT THE FAMILY AND RELATIVES FOUND MANY THINGS TO BE SUSPICIOUS. THE WRIST WHICH WAS SAID TO BE CUT BY DAVID IN AN ATTEMPT TO COMMIT SUICIDE TURNED OUT TO BE JUST FINE, NO SCAR WHATEVER, AND THERE WERE LOTS OF PLASTER/BAND AID MARK ON HIS NECK WHICH THE PARENTS FOUND STRANGE. AND MANY MORE. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE INDONESIAN OR UNDERSTAND MALAY, GO TO http://www.detik.com
@Steve Lim
it is SG who implement this “meritocratic system” so that many relatively rich students got the scholarship. so, better be careful with your use of the f word.
and what statistic you have to show that they are comrpised by rich playboys? ratio of no. of girlfriend/semester? percentage of he sleeping with his GD in hostel? get real man, you put a shame to the NTU ADM.
@Theodora Citra Angkasa
i can understand your frustration and bitterness toward the natives. it will not be easy to undo the damage of 32 years of skewed policy and discrimination. may take another 10 years for Indonesian Chinese to instill the sense of belonging at the same level as those lived during Soekarno era. as for me, i’m willing to take part to undo the damage by joining politics. i don’t want the future generations to live in such a divided environment, traces of which you can feel even in NTU where most natives mingle among themselves, similar to most indonesian chinese. this case presents an opportunity to make indonesian student community to be more united
update on this case: Indonesian Parliament has demanded this case to be investigated by INTERPOL, due to many irregularities and NTU banning the deceased’s closest friends to be interviewd by media. David was one of our brightests, and the truth surrounding his death deserves to be disclosed.
sorry, lots of typo in prev. post.
comrpised by >> comprised of
GD>> GF,
update from detik.com:
David’s Dad: NTU mention his grade to cast him under bad light
this is typical SG approach to virtually ANYTHING. leadership, moral, achievement in life etc are measured using academic yardstick. MSM can play this trick to the most local population who lack the critical thinking and ability to measure anything other than the usual “academic meter”
time for SG press to get real with life.
i think those pple who condemn the student should correct their minds!
bcoz the mishap did not occur to them, of course they don’t feel the pain.
only students who are exploited by professors can empathize with david widjaja.
this, i can fully understand too as those who do not empathize david widjaja may be undergrads of EEE in ntu. it’s really not easy to condemn the prof. as they really have too much control and power over the students’ grades.
i feel sorry for david widjaja coz it’s a loss of young talent.
many of us can’t deny that many uni prof just throw the assignments to students, dint do much to help the students…in the end steal the students’ efforts n hard work n claim as their own!!!
if in the end, the students get good grades, it’s okay.
but most of the time, if the student is unlucky to get prof who jealous young talents, most likely they get lousy grades…which is not worth it at all!!!
that is why i don’t go university coz i believe that all these IT ideas are INTELLECTUAL PROPERTIES!!!! instead of paying so much uni fees, learn nothing, get hurt by horrible prof who practically do nothing n earn big bucks, i rather use the money as capital to start up my own company / firm.
at least i get started with something more worthy.
NB: i’m not saying that all prof as sucks, of course some are good.
but i think the government should not give uni too much autonomy.
government should regulate more to ensure that the singapore uni provide quality education!
it is evident that every organization that are closely regulated by singapore’s government are high-quality.
another shocking news, do u know that every year there are local undergraduates commited suicide bcoz of unfair injustice by the prof. / or they are being unreasonably picked by the prof.? it’s just that the tragedies did not occur in uni campus…this is the shocking numbers!!
imagine that young talents we have lost every year??!!!
it’s a loss to the country too!!! especially for singapore where human resources are our only resources.
plus, i strongly feel that the university should look into this matter seriously.
do not be afraid to re-evaluate the qualities of our uni prof and system.
instead, we should take it as a precious opportunity to refine uni organization.
it may be painful at the moment, but the result is definitely worth it in the long run.
if we keep on overlooking these incidents, or cover up for the prof n staff, it may lure students to the uni in the short term, sooner or later, the bad reputation will still spread. itz only a matter of time…an “orstrich” attitude. it not only will scare students from coming to singapore to pursue their further study, it also tarnishes our country’s “high-quality education” reputation!
dear clearmind.uprightsoul
correct me if i am wrong but i don’t think you should make baseless assumptions that professors exploit their students and in this case, have also indirectly link the cause and put the blame to the professor, who is himself also a victim.
we don’t know the full details yet. lets wait for the investigation to be complete, before we start pointing fingers.
as for myself, i have met professors who have been so inspiring that they have dedicated their lives to the highest standards of academia.
and cravat, if you want transparency in the investigations, details such as his grades will ultimately surface no matter what. lets be fair to all sides shall we
I am one of those unfortunate ECE student from NUS who constantly received bad and shocking remarks from my previous Prof. See message number 102.
I absolutely agree with clearmind.uprightsoul that some good students are exploited by Prof to achieve their research goal. I was blamed by my Prof for being creative and pursue my research without following his demands that were outraging (for instance, using his simulation program that had unknown bugs!). He alleged that my grade could never be better than C or D when I chose my own simulator which is as good!
He alleged that I was a snobbish person who never like to listen and follow his instructions. This was untrue because as an engineering student, I had my own opinion. I knew that if I had chosen to use his simulator that had unknown bugs, I would not be able to complete and graduate on time! He alleged that I always think I’m smart. Speaking of which, I agree as I’m straight As student! I won gold medal during the graduation!
Mind you that many Profs appear very friendly and approachable merely to earn high marks during student evaluation. Far be it from anyone to believe the Prof was such a cunt!
During that time, I did not make any complaint to the University as I afraid that might affect my results!
Now that I have already left Singapore. I enjoy working with the western people who knows how to respect each other. To this day, I have never received any poor remarks from anyone like the Prof!
I’m trying to enrol into a local uni, but given the current situation, I think I’ll have a hard time getting a degree here in Singapore.
It seems to me that Singapore time is coming. The stars are darkening for Singapore. By percentage of population, Singapore is the most paranoid and Schizophrenic country in the world. Why? because they, at the core, have nothing. Nothing than malicious ways of benefiting from other countries resources.
Now that the southeast asia countries are developing, Singapore is overwhelmed by worries. Your time surely has come. Achtung!!!
clearmind.uprightsoul (#121),
NTU banning Widjaja’s closest friends from media interview? Is that even within NTU jurisdiction? A student is a not a university staff. A better description of a student-university relations would be that between a consumer and merchant.
True that Singapore is facing setbacks in 2009. But Singapore can continue to develop and has the ability to do so. Back in 1965, no countries were willing to lend a single hand to us, except Israel and Taiwan. We are currently undergoing a slump but as descendants of these hardowrking pioneers, we have to buck and realise that complacency can kill us.
While other South East Asian countries are developing, to also note that they too are marred by crisis within their own countries. Political and social instability in these countries are more acute and have handicapped these nations to greater progression.
I believe Singaporeans can wake up from this call and I believe we can work towards greater development. Even in Australia, which has become increasingly more wary of Singapore, have recognised that Singapore is “set to be centre of new world order in 2050.” Read this article here:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24467275-5016345,00.html
Yet, Singaporeans must not be over-confident or arrogant. We need to keep earning and keep adapting. This, and many other incidents of 2009 should serve as a good reminder for us citizens. If there is a wrong to right, then take it into your hands and not wait for others. And if our forefathers can do it, surely we can too.
And with this episode, we need to learn to live closer and better with our ASEAN neighbours. As a metropolitan, we cannot avoid being a city made up of different races, nationalities and creed. It is diversity that makes us beautiful too.
131) Xiong on March 5th, 2009 7.34 pm
Yet, Singaporeans must not be over-confident or arrogant. We need to keep earning and keep adapting. This, and many other incidents of 2009 should serve as a good reminder for us citizens. If there is a wrong to right, then take it into your hands and not wait for others. And if our forefathers can do it, surely we can too.
And with this episode, we need to learn to live closer and better with our ASEAN neighbours. As a metropolitan, we cannot avoid being a city made up of different races, nationalities and creed. It is diversity that makes us beautiful too.
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like, finally, a kind of good comment appear here, eventually. well, hope, mr. oklah, and mr.steve lim, and whoever outside there who are anti-foreigners can read this and take the possitive feedback.
we all want the best for our nations.
Just a comment, scholarship is meant for those outstanding students, whether they are rich or poor. If scholarship is meant for poor people, it should be called bursary rather than scholarship.
schol⋅ar⋅ship /ˈskɒlərˌʃɪp/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [skol-er-ship] Show IPA
–noun 1. learning; knowledge acquired by study; the academic attainments of a scholar.
2. a sum of money or other aid granted to a student, because of merit, need, etc., to pursue his or her studies.
3. the position or status of such a student.
4. a foundation to provide financial assistance to students.
Lastly I do not understand how this issue relates to the two countries, Singapore and Indonesia. Let’s not judge anything until the truth is revealed by the authority.
128) Xiong on March 5th, 2009 7.34 pm
I hope more Singaporeans have the mindset like yours. Appreciate your open-mindedness. Frankly speaking, the Political and social instability in southeast asia countries are almost story of the past decade. Take a trip to one of those countries, you will find out their fast paced development and revolution.
Regards,
time
Time: I am well traveled in the region and have witnessed for myself how most SEA nations are still facing social and political instability. True there have been economic development, but at most case, erratic and slow and most of these monies going into the pockets of the few rich elites.
Malaysia and Thailand have their very serious political problems. The Philippines is still gripping with insurgency issues. Myanmar still have issues with the world with its junta background. Vietnam has been facing recession for some time. I just came back fron Vietnam and my friend there tells me there there’s a serious unemployment rate for the past 2 years. Indonesia still has to cope with rampant corruption within its ranks. And Singapore, we too have lots of problems ourselves. It may not be fair for me to point fingers when my country has her fair share of problems but I’m trying to be as unbiased as possible here, its still pretty bleak for ASEAN.
10 years ago just before the 1997 recession, they called ASEAN a ‘goldmine’, 10 years on, nothing has changed. If you compare ASEAN and the EU, you will know what’s lacking, ‘Unity’. And within most individual countries, rich elites that care for their rice bowl more than anything else.
Sorry if I have digressed. I just felt and hope that this incident will not spark off a poor relationship between the Indonesian students and the Singaporeans.
CORRECTIONS to the 3rd Pointer:
-i’m thoroughly appalled by the torrents of comments suggesting the restriction of foreigners into the country. are u guys Really that ….? First, u should be thankful to those foreigners who came here, to pick up the slack for ur Stressful > cmon guys, as u noe mostly all of us worked hard for our money worked hard for our money and pls do not stereotype us into becoming lavish or extravagant being. (Directed @steve lim #113, ‘Rich Playboys’)
I would like to warn that too much time with computer games is extreamly unhealthy. I think this is the real reason behind this sad story and many others.
Freeway, thanks for your important highlight of the clue that a game called Destiny Online?? has caused the deceased’s grades to suffer ?? I believe so coz in the past, I ever heard parents complaining that computer games have harmed their kids by keeping them late into the nights, making them addicted to the games, disobeyed their parents’ advice to sleep early & causing their grades to suffer. They sleep very late & wake up very late too; they literally live in the virtual world & no more in the actual social world.
Now, IF games can make humans lose control and destroy or terminate their lives, it is time for the higher authority- schools, institutions, social agencies, policy makers & all to WAKE UP & do something for the future generation of kids regardless of where these kids come from (just say we’re doing something good for mankind) by eg. set up banners, advertisements, commercials, flyers etc.to warn families, kids, practically the whole world about the DANGER of computer games. Wonder if there is anybody who has done research on this topic yet ?? Something must be done before more are trapped & destroyed by these devilish games; imagine human beings are already controlled by machines & destroyed by them even without them realizing; how scary & we humans just simply know how to point fingers at each other while the devilish games (inventors??those sinful millionaires,game makers, another sinful group) go unpunished. If one invents games for relaxation, it is fine but if it becomes harmful to the human race, capturing their young souls sort of, then better think twice & stop your invention, those are BLOOD $$$.
God Bless
sorry for interupting..
but ain’t you people that there was some contradiction about the news?!
you all shall to see this link
http://www.kaskus.us/showthread.php?t=1495128
i thought that it was bluffing..
then i checked out they were right
especially when the news said that he died using black tshirt.. indeed he died wearing white tshirt..
and news stated that the professor was injured badly..however.. he could recover in two days..
it’s out of logic i think
I heard from a friend that this professor who survived the stab is a China national ?
Anyone knows how he speaks, I mean his tone, voice audible enough ? Is his communication with students effective ? How good is his English ?
Coz I ever went to restaurant & spoke to some waiters & waitresses who are pretty or handsome looking & polite foreigners & when I asked them for something, they did not really understand even simple English with a few sentences. They simply gestured, nodding their heads politely & so I gave up making whatever requests then. Believed they are not well trained by whoever employed them.
Now, if you are a lecturer who speaks in a manner that students cannot understand you well, wow, one can imagine the frustration as it affects your studies. So, how do institutions employ & assess their staff ? How many complaints must students file in before the lecturer is dismissed? But by then, how many students have already suffered under his/her teachings (grades suffer too). Will the institution let them retake the module or be trained again under a different lecturer. Are all these choices in place ?? Truly, many things have gone wrong in this world; we human beings have created too many problems & messed up a lot of things & that’s why, the world is already seen to be literally collapsing soon. Thorough investigation should proceed with the objectives of bringing the guilty to punishment if any & improvement to policies if any which I believed, yes, certainly, many things need to be improved upon…many factors have led to the poor boy’s death indeed. The complicated sins of humans contributed to it….continue to say what you like….
God bless
Latest news, there has been correction on the news by Singapore side. It is said now that David did not commit suicide. Haven’t got time to check further.
Yan, from where do you get that “correction news”, can you share it with all of us please?
Thanks
Why don’t we take a step back and see how this news evolved.
First of all, I am not pro to any side. I’m just interested in how this news can grow into some social bashing. For me, this thing can happen to anyone. It just happened that this case involved a foreign student and a local professor. Yet people starts to generalize the groups (nationality, race, scholars, professors and other sensitive stuffs)
It was a closed scene where there were no eye witness.
Yet the media said that the student stabbed the professor and then killed himself. Did the statement come from the prof’s mouth himself. Or was it just simply assumption made based on the end scene. I am aware of the use of the word “allegedly”/”believed” by the media but people tend to ignore that and be prejudice.
It was like watching the movie just seconds before the end where there is one guy lying on the ground lifeless and another guy bloodily injured. No one knows the scenes leading to this. Yet, people are guessing and making their own scenarios and it happens that the media is strong enough to convey the message. I’m not saying that the news is not right. But up to this point, I think that this is just simply an assumption.
Some news even just quoted from personal blogs, forums. Those are all based on opinions, not fact.
Aside from the evidence (autopsy result, knife, police report etc) which are not disclosed to public yet, the only person to break the deadlock is the prof himself. I understand that he is still recovering physically and mentally. however, with full respect, I sincerely think that he should step up and explain to make everything clear, whenever he is fully recovered. For his responsibilty as human-being, not representing any group, and not biased for the advantage of any group.
Once again, I don’t know what happened in the room between the student and the prof, I’m just voicing my doubt on the trueness of the news. It might be true but it might also be false.
Of coz singapore media would do a correction on the news. After so much buzz in the forums pointing out the flaw n baseless assumption in their reporting. they’d definitely try to ‘Correct’ the news. this only proves that they are inaccurate and subjected to biasness. as if facts aren’t facts, they need to CORRECT these facts.
as i’ve said up above, that they will only publish what they want to hear. at this point i cant help it but Be very skeptical of ST reports. It’s somehow analogous to aLiar telling u that he won’t lie again. there he just made another lie..
From http://www.detik.com. That site is really fast. If they report a war, the war most probably is still happening in front of your door :)
Btw, I haven’t got time to check other sources yet so don’t want to comment too much. But in detik, speaker from the foreign ministry Teuku Faizasyah said the Singapore government had attempted to make correction.
it proves whether what u heard r not always the right one!
you who have studied sociology know conspiracy theory, in other meaning that another event is related to others since they both from EEE department…check this out:
http://www.gabrielsai.com/blog/2009/…hs-in-ntu.html
and don’t forget to watch this film:
http://www.mysoju.com/a-million-star…-from-the-sky/
The film told about the student who took suicide but later revealed that the professors who killed her. In sociology, don’t take common sense la but you have to investigate the facts. In other words, if media said he was suicide but without knowing facts then wo should not beleive it.
yea… my teacher told me not to believe everything the newspaper wrote.. we can still read it.. but not 100% believe it.. because there might be hidden truth behind all of them… if you believe everything they said, u are brainwashed by the govt..
I feel very strongly about the FYP systems in the university in Singapore. I’m currently doing my FYP in NUS Engineering and I absolutely loathe the PostDoctoral which my Professor has placed me under.
My FYP professor happens to be the head of department and he is simply too busy to meet his FYP students. In fact, since FYP started last Sem (5mths ago), I haven’t even met him, not even once! He actually told my friend who is also a FYP student under him, that is too busy and that we should not bother him. He leaves everything to the PostDoctral and told my friend to inform us that the PostDoctral takes full control. What he doesnt know is that this PostDoctral fellow has been ordering us around like slaves, making us come down EVERY SINGLE DAY of the week (9am to 6pm) to do the experiment which he commands. He never explains what the experiments are for and when we try to pursue, he brushes us off and asks us to just go do it. He even made ridiculous demands for us to stay OVERNIGHT in the labs in school and also come down on weekends.
As FYP students, we feel very helpless cause there is no channel to seek help or complaints. We do not dare to approach our FYP prof to let him know of what has been done to us because we fear he might take it the wrong way. Afterall, you never know how are things between him and the PostDoctoral. What if he chooses to believe the PostDoctral who lies through his teeth that we’re slackers or lazy students who don’t do our work and don’t come down at all? Furthermore, since the FYP Prof is never around, he is probably going to leave the grading to the PostDoctral (thinking he knows best) and god knows what kind of grades we get after we try bringing up his “abusive” issues.
I therefore take the NTU incident with a pinch of salt. It takes a lot for someone to drive a knife through another being and it takes a lot to jump down a building. You can say the student has bad stress management or whatsoever but let’s not forget that students DO get very sucky profs for FYP. Given the 1 year setting of the project, under such long term stress, it is totally possible to drive someone up the walls.
Furthermore, I have come to know some profs are entirely different in class and in FYP setting. Some of them are very relaxing and easy going during classes but when it comes to FYP, they totally change because most of the Profs make use of FYP to publish papers. And these papers are essentially their ticket to further employment or pay raise or promotion etc. A certain number of papers needed to be published in a certain time frame while the profs are being employed by the university. It is also common for profs to make use of FYP students as free labour to do mandune or time consuming experiments which they themselves do not want to do or do not have the time.
At the end of the day, all that time spent and all the hardship a student endures through FYP, just for that few modular credits and possibly a better class of honours, may just consume you.
welcome to the world of slavery. it is no wonder that singaporeans are not keen & schoalrships are awarded to foreigners who are willing to endure the nonsense.
go overseas for a post-grad education for exposure.