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		<title>By: Hopeless</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/03/retiring-backwards/comment-page-1/#comment-59654</link>
		<dc:creator>Hopeless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 05:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the price of hdb is still so high during this recession. why worry, sure go up one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the price of hdb is still so high during this recession. why worry, sure go up one.</p>
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		<title>By: aiyoyo</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/03/retiring-backwards/comment-page-1/#comment-59497</link>
		<dc:creator>aiyoyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 02:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aiyoyo

elites only think of tekan kaki people, squeeze kaki people...

if so smart those elites go n tekan other people, squeeze other people la...

no choice 人在江湖 身不由己

aiyoyo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aiyoyo</p>
<p>elites only think of tekan kaki people, squeeze kaki people&#8230;</p>
<p>if so smart those elites go n tekan other people, squeeze other people la&#8230;</p>
<p>no choice 人在江湖 身不由己</p>
<p>aiyoyo</p>
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		<title>By: neversaydie</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/03/retiring-backwards/comment-page-1/#comment-58590</link>
		<dc:creator>neversaydie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They cheated us of our CPF interest monies by lowering the effective interest rate.

Yet the ex Manpower minister claimed he had increased it over the long run.

So, PAP got us to let them keep our CPF monies longer and yet lower the interest rate for them to use it to fund some funny investments in the future, which we know is probably going to fail.

This kind of embellishment should be banned under the new media law right?

Of course, they are never going to do it.

They set the rules in the first place.

Question is why do we let them do it in the first place or more importantly, why do we let them do it in the future?

With the PAP, you still have to work your ass out.

Without the PAP, you probably have to work your ass out because of the mess they/he left behind but at least you got to say things the way it is and didn&#039;t need a law to enforce that, when we know such a law is only applicable to the opposition and the public, never on MIWs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They cheated us of our CPF interest monies by lowering the effective interest rate.</p>
<p>Yet the ex Manpower minister claimed he had increased it over the long run.</p>
<p>So, PAP got us to let them keep our CPF monies longer and yet lower the interest rate for them to use it to fund some funny investments in the future, which we know is probably going to fail.</p>
<p>This kind of embellishment should be banned under the new media law right?</p>
<p>Of course, they are never going to do it.</p>
<p>They set the rules in the first place.</p>
<p>Question is why do we let them do it in the first place or more importantly, why do we let them do it in the future?</p>
<p>With the PAP, you still have to work your ass out.</p>
<p>Without the PAP, you probably have to work your ass out because of the mess they/he left behind but at least you got to say things the way it is and didn&#8217;t need a law to enforce that, when we know such a law is only applicable to the opposition and the public, never on MIWs.</p>
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		<title>By: SZ</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/03/retiring-backwards/comment-page-1/#comment-58552</link>
		<dc:creator>SZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So all in all, you are paying a huge amount for a lease not not for ownership? so slogging your life away to pay for the flat, a roof over your head, and it is still not really yours...how sad is a singaporean life...unless u r MIW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So all in all, you are paying a huge amount for a lease not not for ownership? so slogging your life away to pay for the flat, a roof over your head, and it is still not really yours&#8230;how sad is a singaporean life&#8230;unless u r MIW</p>
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		<title>By: karangooni</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/03/retiring-backwards/comment-page-1/#comment-58490</link>
		<dc:creator>karangooni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) Do they own a property ? on March 23rd, 2009 12.25 am

My understanding is what HDB owners own is a LEASE. Its the HDB owns the building.  In overseas, not the case. 

Correct me if i sala.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Do they own a property ? on March 23rd, 2009 12.25 am</p>
<p>My understanding is what HDB owners own is a LEASE. Its the HDB owns the building.  In overseas, not the case. </p>
<p>Correct me if i sala.</p>
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		<title>By: roomwithalongkang</title>
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		<dc:creator>roomwithalongkang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2) iliveinuk on March 23rd, 2009 1.45 am 

&quot;It is impossible to predict the trends and movement of the economy. Considering every ten years there has been a major economic disaster, i think the price fluctuations can be discredited.&quot;

By your rationale, is the CPF interest enough?
Can you retire as planned?

So, no one can be responsible?
So, what do you predict your future will be like?
Oh, i forgot, whatever you predict is unpredictable by your logic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2) iliveinuk on March 23rd, 2009 1.45 am </p>
<p>&#8220;It is impossible to predict the trends and movement of the economy. Considering every ten years there has been a major economic disaster, i think the price fluctuations can be discredited.&#8221;</p>
<p>By your rationale, is the CPF interest enough?<br />
Can you retire as planned?</p>
<p>So, no one can be responsible?<br />
So, what do you predict your future will be like?<br />
Oh, i forgot, whatever you predict is unpredictable by your logic.</p>
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		<title>By: SB</title>
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		<dc:creator>SB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi ALL, Please refer to the following reply letter from HDB published in TODAY last month which is self-explanatory. The suggestion will take care of the best of both the scheme and Mr. Leong&#039;s. 

TODAY - HDB ’s Lease Buyback scheme
An option, not a last resort

Letter from Lily Wong Jee Choo
Deputy Director
(Policy and Property)
Housing and Development Board

WE REFER to letter “A second chance at home” (Feb 10), on the Lease
Buyback Scheme (LBS). The LBS is a generous scheme specially designed to
meet the needs of the elderly. It allows them to continue living in the same HDB flat and neighbourhood, while leading a more financially secure retirement.
It is an option to unlock the value of the flat, in addition to subletting a room or downgrading to a studio apartment. It would be a missed opportunity
if elderly home owners see the LBS only as a “last resort” for “dire circumstances”, to quote the writer. We hope that those who are eligible will seriously consider whether the scheme suits them. He has suggested for
the tail-end of the flat lease to be redeemable by lessees or their family, some time after they have signed on to the LBS.

We will study this idea as part of the review of the scheme, taking into account public feedback after its launch. HDB will also continue to reach out to the elderly to enhance public understanding of the scheme.
We thank the writer for his views</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi ALL, Please refer to the following reply letter from HDB published in TODAY last month which is self-explanatory. The suggestion will take care of the best of both the scheme and Mr. Leong&#8217;s. </p>
<p>TODAY &#8211; HDB ’s Lease Buyback scheme<br />
An option, not a last resort</p>
<p>Letter from Lily Wong Jee Choo<br />
Deputy Director<br />
(Policy and Property)<br />
Housing and Development Board</p>
<p>WE REFER to letter “A second chance at home” (Feb 10), on the Lease<br />
Buyback Scheme (LBS). The LBS is a generous scheme specially designed to<br />
meet the needs of the elderly. It allows them to continue living in the same HDB flat and neighbourhood, while leading a more financially secure retirement.<br />
It is an option to unlock the value of the flat, in addition to subletting a room or downgrading to a studio apartment. It would be a missed opportunity<br />
if elderly home owners see the LBS only as a “last resort” for “dire circumstances”, to quote the writer. We hope that those who are eligible will seriously consider whether the scheme suits them. He has suggested for<br />
the tail-end of the flat lease to be redeemable by lessees or their family, some time after they have signed on to the LBS.</p>
<p>We will study this idea as part of the review of the scheme, taking into account public feedback after its launch. HDB will also continue to reach out to the elderly to enhance public understanding of the scheme.<br />
We thank the writer for his views</p>
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		<title>By: kf</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 01:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, a rental room goes for between $400 (for 1 person)-$650 (either for 2 persons or when shorter term rentals were asked for) per month. So the incremental equity can go up by another 50% :-0.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, a rental room goes for between $400 (for 1 person)-$650 (either for 2 persons or when shorter term rentals were asked for) per month. So the incremental equity can go up by another 50% :-0.</p>
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		<title>By: SZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2) iliveinuk

&quot;i think the price fluctuations can be discredited.&quot;
With economic crisis, yes, it does bring about financial difficulties, but dos it decrease the price? no...during the crisis, we seldom see deflation to offset the inflation that happens in that past 10 years, so price fluctuations is definitely there.

as yourself this, even in the UK. are the stuff that you are buying the same price as 10 years ago? simple enough?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2) iliveinuk</p>
<p>&#8220;i think the price fluctuations can be discredited.&#8221;<br />
With economic crisis, yes, it does bring about financial difficulties, but dos it decrease the price? no&#8230;during the crisis, we seldom see deflation to offset the inflation that happens in that past 10 years, so price fluctuations is definitely there.</p>
<p>as yourself this, even in the UK. are the stuff that you are buying the same price as 10 years ago? simple enough?</p>
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		<title>By: WHOknowNEXT</title>
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		<dc:creator>WHOknowNEXT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE price of ten years time, they are getting more and more expensive, just
thank the government, and GST could be more than 7 percent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE price of ten years time, they are getting more and more expensive, just<br />
thank the government, and GST could be more than 7 percent.</p>
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		<title>By: Singaporean</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/03/retiring-backwards/comment-page-1/#comment-58385</link>
		<dc:creator>Singaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UK is not richer but it is certainly bigger than Singapore. But being bigger actually means their subsidies are larger than compared if Singapore would do the same. Go figure out why UK can do what Singapore cannot. Leong has just opened your eyes to another angle. If you cannot see it initially, you belong to the two thirds of a population who are not savvy enough to notice. But after being brought to your attention and you still cannot see it, then you belong to the unique category of the top 1 percent of any population who die die must do. Caveat Emptor. A fool and his money is soon parted, but at least you are happy doing it. Good Luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UK is not richer but it is certainly bigger than Singapore. But being bigger actually means their subsidies are larger than compared if Singapore would do the same. Go figure out why UK can do what Singapore cannot. Leong has just opened your eyes to another angle. If you cannot see it initially, you belong to the two thirds of a population who are not savvy enough to notice. But after being brought to your attention and you still cannot see it, then you belong to the unique category of the top 1 percent of any population who die die must do. Caveat Emptor. A fool and his money is soon parted, but at least you are happy doing it. Good Luck!</p>
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		<title>By: iliveinuk</title>
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		<dc:creator>iliveinuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This calculation is stupid. It is impossible to predict the trends and movement of the economy. Considering every ten years there has been a major economic disaster, i think the price fluctuations can be discredited.

I think what the gahmen is trying to do here is to instill a better quality of life for the aged. You cannot expect the gahmen to give free handouts to them (yes i will turn old one day) hence the next best alternative for having an improved quality of life yet retaining the roof over their heads is this measure.

The money they are getting will go a long way in ensuring basic necessities and also medical fees covered.

Sometimes i wish we were bigger and richer like the UK to get free handouts like welfare and free medical care. I read somewhere in the daily mirror that it cost the country 140 billion for the healthcare costs of 20million people..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This calculation is stupid. It is impossible to predict the trends and movement of the economy. Considering every ten years there has been a major economic disaster, i think the price fluctuations can be discredited.</p>
<p>I think what the gahmen is trying to do here is to instill a better quality of life for the aged. You cannot expect the gahmen to give free handouts to them (yes i will turn old one day) hence the next best alternative for having an improved quality of life yet retaining the roof over their heads is this measure.</p>
<p>The money they are getting will go a long way in ensuring basic necessities and also medical fees covered.</p>
<p>Sometimes i wish we were bigger and richer like the UK to get free handouts like welfare and free medical care. I read somewhere in the daily mirror that it cost the country 140 billion for the healthcare costs of 20million people..</p>
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		<title>By: Do they own a property ?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Do they own a property ?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“I can’t take the flat with me when I die”

but you can pass it to your decendants whom you love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I can’t take the flat with me when I die”</p>
<p>but you can pass it to your decendants whom you love.</p>
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