On the evening of the stabbing incident, TOC spoke to residents from David Widjaja’s hall and colleagues of Associate Professor Chan Kap Luk, who was alleged to be the victim. We will continue to provide timely updates on this story
Updates (4 March 2009): According to a Singapore Police Force press release, investigations are still ongoing. It is not known who is the aggressor. A spokesman for the SPF declined to reveal any more information about the alleged assault, at least not until investigations are complete.
Story by Terence Lee and Darren Boon
A final year NTU student allegedly stabbed a professor before falling off to his death from the linkway between two blocks on Monday morning.
It is believed that David Hartanto Widjaja, 21, from the Electrical and Electronic Engineering (EEE) school, stabbed Associate Professor(A/P) Chan Kap Luk, 45, from the same faculty. The incident happened at Block S1A at about 10.35am in the morning.
David Widjaja was pronounced dead on the spot while Prof Chan is receiving medical attention at the National University Hospital and is said to be recovering well.
According to a Singapore Police Force press release, investigations are still ongoing. It is not known who is the aggressor. A spokesman for the SPF declined to reveal any more information about the alleged assault, at least not until investigations are complete.
Prof Chan “pleasant, nice and knowledgeable”
There is no official word on the motive of the stabbing. However, A/P Chan was the supervisor for Mr Widjaja’s final year project titled ‘Multiview acquisition from Multi-camera configuration for person adaptive 3D display’.
Mr Widjaja had been a President of the NTU Electronic Sports Club.
In the profile listed by the university, Prof Chan obtained his PhD in Robot Vision from Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine, University of London, London, United Kingdom in 1991.
TOC spoke to a colleague of A/P Chan, Professor Ma Kai-Kuang, a fellow lecturer in the EE 4490 Multimedia Systems course. He described Prof Chan as having a “good reputation, and pleasant, nice and knowledgeable”.
Deceased was “carefree” but kept to himself in hall
24-year-old Arts student Joel Tan stays in the same NTU Hall just three rooms away from David. He was not aware that David stayed on the same floor as him, until two MyPaper reporters came by to ask him about the occupant of the room three doors down.
“I knew a couple of my neighbours, but not him. He probably to kept to himself a lot,” he said.
While most rooms in NTU are shared by two people, the rooms on David’s floor only had single beds, so he did not have a roommate.
On the night of the incident, TOC approached four students who lived on the same floor as David, but none of them had met him before.
According to a blog by Muhammad Taureza, who spoke to one of David’s friends, Widjaja was known to his friends as “Ming Ming”. He noted that Widjaja ‘has been known as a carefree student by some of his peers’, and an avid player of World of Warcraft.
In Taureza’s blog, one of his friends observed a slight change in Widjaja a week before the stabbing when he ceased contacting his friends, though Taureza’s friend didn’t go into details.
David’s body has been identified by his parents, who had flown in from Indonesia.
Read also: Breaking News: Prof stabbed, student dies at NTU
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“fleshing out the NTU stabbing”… is that title really necessary?
let the poor boy rest in peace
his friends deserve time to mourn too
Having gone through 4 years of Engineering with FYP, methinks this is an act of pure selfishness gone too far. Nothing of this nature (academic-wise) justifies attempted murder.
#1,
How’s the title insensitive???
Thanks for doing the legwork guys and getting this information out there. you’re the only blog out here doing that.
I am well acquainted to the Prof;l i had worked with him when he was in my school (also, he was my senior); he helped to teach some of the subjects and that greatly reduced our teaching load. I would like to say that he is a fair person; he is a very experienced teacher. He gives good advice. He is very approachable and also very helpful. I do not believe that he pressurised the deceased student in his studies. It was very unfortunate that this incident occurred. I wished him speedy recovery.
The detailed informations about the NTU stabbing tragedy (March 23, 2009) become too biased as people tries to “digging for the truth” behind.
It’s not wrong, but sometimes can creates misunderstanding in reader’s mind.
For example, as Joel Tan says that he isn’t aware of David was stayed on the same floor with him, there are many possibilities..
1. As their age and faculty are different, we can’t simply assume that David was a individualist. Many people only interact with their own peer, maybe because their time and interests are the same.
2. Some news says that David jumped to finish his life, without paying attention to his wrist wound, that could be the thing that lead him to faint and fell off to the ground.
3. Some of his friend says that there’s a slight change of David about a week before the tragedy happened.
Is it the “bad marks” that he will get or any othe reason(s) such as broken heart, family problem (as it mentioned in some news, that NTU students just finished their holiday one weeks before), or any correlation with economy crisis and job possibilities after he graduated. Anybody?
4. While some students or fellow lecturers says the Prof. is a good and kind person, is there any subjective point? perhaps he is only good to a girls student or his colleagues?
The news tells only apart of those informations, not in really detailed, I hope there’s a deep investigations to the cause of the terrible incident in one of the top Asia’s University and publication its result.
If you readers out there know anything about the Professor or about the student, just feel free to contact The Online Citizen with what you want to share.
Thanks.
I support the effort of finding out the truths – either the issue lie with the professor or the student himself. Our local controlled media will most likely cover the news with different perspective in order to safeguard the interest of the instituitions here.
The full facts of the case is still yet to be unraveled, yet I can safely say that the student’s pre-meditated murder attempt (he brought the knife and attacked from the back) is wholly unforgivable, especially if it is related to academic issues.
Much has been written about how ‘brilliant’ a student he was. This is probably a good case to illustrate that merely having a high abstract intelligence is not enough to survive in this world. Other life skills are essential.
http://destiny.enjoymmo.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=2882&extra=page%3D1
David will be missed by all of his friends from Destiny Online.
This article gives rise to two topics worth debating – the efficiency of stress management in Singapore and the effects of over-emphasis on academic grades.
Perhaps the professor might have said something that hurt David. I think something might have provoked him so badly that he wanted to take revenge. If you fail the grade, the most you resit the paper. In this case, we don’t know what are the problems between the two .
I will have to agree with KL on this.
according to the comments at http://destiny.enjoymmo.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=2882&extra=page%3D1 some of them said that he/she chatted with david a day before the tragedy or played with him and none knew about him having problems.
unlike the saying of the media about the observation of a slight change in Widjaja a week before the stabbing when he ceased contacting his friends
while on one thread http://www.kaskus.us/showthread.php?p=71260099 it is said there that david’s friend/s (on high school) was/were very shocked about the death. for he’s known to be a cheerful guy that makes the class more lifely with his cheerfulness. and appeared to be a the type of person who enjoyed life very much. – which is a quite different impression from what Joel Tan thought of him.
I also heard that there was a scar on his neck and lips (why would he slit his neck and lips if in the end he committed suicide by slitting his wrists and jumped off the building?) WERE THEY BOTH ATTACKING EACH OTHER??
I read the latest update of this case.. from ST online
There’s a misunderstanding, that his scholarship was revoked just last month (actually he could work part-time, while when he was under scholarship, he’s not allowed to work).
This is the irony of “stabbed wrong person by mistake” as it mentioned in the ST.
He thought that the Prof was the person who caused this scholarship termination, but to stab somebody itself is a crime.
But one thing, I still haven’t get the reason of his scholarship termination. Maybe somebody can explains this or any source?
About what Jason mentioned, I agree, seems it’s Asian Education style.. :)
while most (but not all) US/ American education style is develop both IQ & EQ.
Well.. from our discussion, we can see the breaking news is not always the right and the accurate one, there are still many possibilities behind it.
Please be careful to receive any information as it may lead to misunderstanding.. News media are always tend to catch people’s attention and sometimes more to profit oriented (from commercial).
I’m sorry not my intend to discrediting media, but to remind the audience.
Until everything’s clear, we continue our “research digging for the truth” ..
The problem(s) contributing to the culmination of this incident may arise from either parties or both. Thank you TOC for trying to unravel the motives and circumstances surrounding this regrettable action. I believe you would cover this issue objectively and compassionately.
I hope this incident would help shed light into the welfare of undergraduates (and perhaps professors) in Singapore and the two topics mentioned by Jackson.
It’s interesting how the ST describes the assailant as ‘Mr’ David Hartanto Widjaja – presumably because he is a high-flyer? Either we address all alleged criminals as such or we don’t. I do hate the selective according of salutation – no one is ‘more equal’ than others, sheesh.
Also, in that same article, it speaks of the professor being in ‘good spirits’. Well, he may be recovering well, but seeing as a student under his supervision is dead, I don’t see how he would be in good spirits.
That’s ST for you, I suppose…
Ganga said:
It’s interesting how the ST describes the assailant as ‘Mr’ David Hartanto Widjaja – presumably because he is a high-flyer? Either we address all alleged criminals as such or we don’t. I do hate the selective according of salutation – no one is ‘more equal’ than others, sheesh.
Also, in that same article, it speaks of the professor being in ‘good spirits’. Well, he may be recovering well, but seeing as a student under his supervision is dead, I don’t see how he would be in good spirits.
That’s ST for you, I suppose…”
This world is unfair. Do you expect the same treatment for your mother if she checks in to Tan Tock Seng and when the PM’s mother checked in? When you want to see the doctor on duty, you probably have to wait for him for some time. I think the head doctor will be there with the PM in a jiffy without being asked. Some people can fly in on SQ special flight while the rest of us probably have to waved frantically without success for a taxi at the side of the road. This is the reality. There are bigger injustices out there then the use of salutation in the Straits Times. Don’t sweat the small stuff. There is greater injustices to address in this world.
Another day, another death:
Woman falls to her death, former boyfriend found with arm injuries
She was pronounced dead by paramedics at about 6am. The woman is believed to be a Singapore permanent resident from Thailand.
A Chinese man in his early twenties, believed to be the dead woman’s ex-boyfriend, was found on the ninth floor corridor of the block with arm injuries.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/412731/1/.html
David was always so bright and cheerful on Destiny Online. He had spent a lot of time here talking with his friends. I last talked to him a few days ago and there was no change in his attitude or personality. I was talking to friend who was talking to David a few nights ago about the university and he had said he was not sure that this Course was right for him and that he was having a few problems with it… In spite of what happened, I dont want his last actions to define him to the world. He was a good hearted, Loving person who would do anything for anyone.
http://destiny.enjoymmo.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=2882&extra=page%3D1
i thought that he’s been playing online games/reading comic books since high school? (then his grades would have gone down since high school also, and year 1, 2, 3 on ntu) and why was his scholarship terminated last month (in the final year) only? the scholarship story is also just a possibility. not yet declared by the policemen, they’re still investigating (just so happened that the medias are so desperate to write the motive). if the family is so poor and obsessed abt scholarship then he wouldn’t have be living in a single bedroom at the dorm no?
Coming to this story late but surprised TOC wouldn’t change the ‘headline’ even though it was pointed out in the first comment how insensitive it is.
Whether it was intended or perhaps like Cher at comment#4 you didn’t see it or don’t understand it, once highlighted you might like to reconsider. I also think it to be in rather poor tatste and adds nothing to the story
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If the most important main player is not around to verify the true story, anyone can say anything .
It is just like a piece of white paper with some very vague lines there, anyone can draw anything either incorporating the existing vague lines or not.
David’s world must have come crashing down when he learned that his scholarship had been terminated. Life must have looked very bleak to him — the thoughts of how to pay his fees, rent, food, etc etc, must have overwhelmed him. He had no family to come home to – to share his distress and offer him a way to solve his plight.
Such a predicament can unsettle any young chap. David was only 21. This is all surmise, of course. But the sad and tragic way in which he ended his life does call for an investigation, not the least, into whether there a way, any way, he could have found solace after being told that his scholarship had been terminated.
I speak from sad experience. I was chucked out of university at the age of 21 after four years of medical school. My grades were bad, I must admit, and the state did not want to waste further funds on me. I was also told sternly I did not deserve another chance when I asked to take up another course of study.
Out into the cold hard world I went, hardly prepared for the rigours of working life. But I neeed to work, to earn my keep. That much I knew. My family shared my grief but what we could do. We could not afford another stab at tertiary education for me.
My first job at an advertising agency required me to cut out reports. I lasted two weeks, got a scolding from the boss and went off – to teach in a school for dropouts. How ironic. But it was there that I found I loved teaching and went on to pursue a career in literature and the arts. A rather big switch from medicine, you might say. But what the heck, I found my calling. And it paid the bills, as it has been doing for the last 40 years of my working life.
My career has taken me around the world, doing things I love and enjoy, interviewing interesting people from world leaders to movie stars and all sorts of rascals. Not too bad for a university dropout — but looking back, I wonder what gave me the fortitude to carry on, after that rather abrupt and harsh sending off I received from a department head who was angry with me for doing badly in her subject. It must have been my family, the unstinting love of a mother. She and my siblings did not say anything — but I felt they shared my grief and that gave me the strength to move on …
So to all despairing students, please do not give up — even in your darkest moments. Find someone to share your thoughts with, to give you strength, to help you muster your resources and move on. I am here to lend you a shoulder to lean on. Anytime.
To Gabriel
I almost gave up in the last year of medical school. Good to know that there is always a way out however unpleasant it is and never give up hope or there is nothing really to look forward to!
[#17 Singaporean]
“This world is unfair. Do you expect the same treatment for your mother if she checks in to Tan Tock Seng and when the PM’s mother checked in? When you want to see the doctor on duty, you probably have to wait for him for some time. I think the head doctor will be there with the PM in a jiffy without being asked. Some people can fly in on SQ special flight while the rest of us probably have to waved frantically without success for a taxi at the side of the road. This is the reality. There are bigger injustices out there then the use of salutation in the Straits Times. Don’t sweat the small stuff. There is greater injustices to address in this world.”
That is what I would call an intelligent observation.
And they have the cheek to say that we are all equal in the eyes of the law.
However, Inequality is a fact of life and seems to exist everywhere.
Some of the comments made me feel real sad. If people are to behave like what they wrote (or think), there will be more voilence in this society. I am especially sad about KL’s comments.
Firstly, he quote that “The detailed informations about the NTU stabbing tragedy (March 23, 2009) become too biased as people tries to “digging for the truth” behind.” However, he himself is slanting towards the student by giving “Assumptions”, “Possibilities” … see his 3rd Mar, 2:54 pm comments.
KL’s other comments on March 3rd, 2009 9.41 pm about termination of the student’s scholarship. He requested for the reason why the scholarshop was terminated. So, with the reason, its OK to kill? He also agreed with another writer Jason to blame on the Asian Education style.. which they said are unlike most (but not all) US/ American education style is develop both IQ & EQ.
1. If KL and many others do not like the Asian education system, they can choose to study in the US/American. You have the freedom so why restrict yourself.
2. KL, please please ask your own understanding of EQ. When you encountered a problem and your reaction is to kill —- then I afraid you do not have any EQ at all. You’re just a high IQ animal like chimps.
3. You think if you have a good reason, its OK to kill?! then, you must have agreed and supported those “An Eye for An Eye” kind of terrorism.
4. There are many ways to solve problems but not by hurting another person. This is not a video game where you can Replay over and over again when game is over.
Dear #22 GABRIEL and #23 peasantdr,
I advise both of you and other students out there not to take things too seriously. If you fail in your studies, in your work, in your relationships…, it’s never the end of the world for you.
Paradoxically, you should feel happy that by failing in something, you discovered that something is not for you – you had escaped going into the wrong course, wrong career, wrong marriage. So, you should be thankful for finding out in time.
GABRIEL, if you had not been kicked out of medical school, you may end up being a bad doctor and become a menace to your patients or have your career terminated anyway by a medical lawsuit. You would not be basking in your present success now, would you?
So, I think when we embark on any project in life, we should not treat each endeavor as a life-and-death situation; but an opportunity to find out for yourself what you can or cannot achieve in a certain direction. The outcome at every point is a node of reference to guide you along to the right path.
There is no need for anxiety or despair at all.
13) media critics on March 3rd, 2009 7.57 pm
“I also heard that there was a scar on his neck and lips (why would he slit his neck and lips if in the end he committed suicide by slitting his wrists and jumped off the building?)”
Smell rats! dead man tells no tale . . . . . .
CNA article : “Structured support systems in place to identify students at risk, say universities”.
This statement gave me a question:
if in place, how did the attempted murder happened and how come that kid jumped down?
in other words, the system is in place but no guarantee and thus ….. ???
There was support system but the system supports nothing, it was(and maybe is) in name only. Just like lip services provide no service at all.
All speculations….. speculations. Now, the focus is on the ‘blame game” Let the investigation progress but ultimately, will we get all the facts and there will be transparency in the final report. It is a sad incident which nobody anticipated. In Singapore as in any other busy city, citizens and non-citizens lead very busy lives.
Therefore, close friends have to pay special attention if one of your group displays symptoms of distress, isolation, and depression.
Counsellors can only act if they are aware that one of their students is in dire straits or if they are approached personally. They cannot walk around campus asking, ” Are you ok? Is something wrong unless they have talked to the student on a personal level. So classmates/close friends/boyfriends/girlfriends/parents/siblings/church friends, be aware and show interest.
the cut on the neck and lips mean nothing at this point of the iinvestigation as they could have been sustained during the fall … jus my two cents worth
He deserved to the jail and hell!!!
I agree with #28. Smell rats! Search the nets, then you will know what kind of person he is. He is far above the average students and is actually a math genius. Came from the best high school in Indonesia, respected and loved by schoolmates and teachers, enjoy life person, winner of a bronze medal in International Math Olympiad in 2005, and former president of the NTU Electronic Sports Club. I don’t think he is capable of doing such a terrible thing. One thing that I really want to know is the knife really belong to him. Had anyone seen him with the knife before?
Rumours in Jakarta says no wound on his wrists, contrary to the news here.
So sad to have lost such a quality person. May he R.I.P. in the hands of God.
MOre comments from David’s friend, Edwin2026, offering a different perspective
http://comment.straitstimes.com/showthread.php?t=17387&page=13
slashed wound/s was found on david’s neck. no wrists wounds whatsoever. ntu dean said no one saw david jumped off the building, the police said david fell from a high building to the glass rooftop and then ground. the media here should really update their news. singapore news are left behind (??) from the indo news.
We need an explanation as to why his scholarship was terminated a few months before graduation
He had served 3 years of his scholarship and it may have been a tough struggle for the guy – why terminate now, a few months left only?
It must have been a tough knock – the poor guy had only a few months more to complete his degree, more help should have been given.
Where is the heart?
The comments of scholarship being given to foreigners and the selection criteria are not the main issue here.
Whether the dead student is a citizen or non-citizen is not important, it is a sad case of an unnecessary loss of young life and the pain felt by his parents and loved ones is very traumatic for them.
Only the police forensics at this time can surface the facts. The professor probably already has his statement taken. Police forensics should now sift through the evidences, for example, corelating the evidence found with the statement given.
I feel our news agencies have given a one sided premature view like he slit his own wrists and jumped off the building when there is no evidence for this view. It is just their assumptions. Journalism standards have indeed fallen in Singapore.
I just want to clarify as for the posting from “IAmSad”
I think either you misunderstand or misread my last previous..
please re-read it and my 1st posting as well.
Please.. I think we’re all agree that we’re here to support for the truth, my intention here is to open people’s mind, see cases/problems from multi point of view, from any possibilities.
If anyone get legitimate informations, updates/follow-ups about the tragedy, please post it to share it with all of us.. We need it for the sake of the truth.
Is there any testimonial given by the professor? He already left the hospital on Wednesday.
(Referring to post #29)
Having graduated from NTU, I don’t recall being informed about any counselling centre or counsellors that the students can approach for help. If there is and I missed it, then why I never missed being informed yearly that I could offer monetary gift to the University and the letter still comes yearly. Or was the counselling centre being implemented only after year 2002 after my graduation?
My point is that all students in the University should be well-informed of such a support being available should they need help.
(Referring to post #32, last paragraph)
I think it would be good if the University could regularly encourage the lecturers to look out for students who may need help. It may not be full-proof, but I think we need all the help we can get to prevent such tragedy from happening again.
(Referring to post #5)
I am not saying that the professor is the cause for the kid’s death, but I don’t think we can find any person who is equally nice and helpful to everyone in the world.
(Referring to post #26, #1.)
I think most Asian chose to study in Singapore instead of going to the states or elsewhere because comparatively, it is cheaper to study here due to the exchange rate and its nearer to their hometown.
My sympathies are with both Prof Chan and David.
Having studied Engineering in NTU, I know the study load is really heavy with the assignments and projects. Also, the lecturers have their own projects too, so sometimes it is difficult to approach them for help. I remember discussing with my Final Year Project lecturer about a material that I needed for some experiments. He gave me a half-past-six answer and in the end, the material wasn’t suitable. I think the workload of both the students and lecturers need to be reviewed and revised. Studying Engineering in NTU is like studying a crammed course. Also, the University needs to send its lecturers for teaching courses. Personally, I have only met two efficient and effective lecturers in teaching during my study in NTU. Maybe undergraduates shouldn’t be spoon fed, but if they know everything, then what’s the point of attending a University and paying so much for it. I am not trying to bad mouth the University, but I think it is time that NTU put the funds collected to good use, instead of wasting the funds in beautifying the University and socializing.
Updates (7 March 2009): According to a Singapore Police Force…
Typo? Or updates from the future?
Not to be outdone by NTU, NUS announced its latest victim. Which local university will emerge top of the list of tragic institutions in Singapore?
The answer is simple – for one, a slacker graduate, however talented, (in the myopic eyes of the system) will not be a productive contributor to the economy and hence is best discouraged from working here.
Secondly (and probably more importantly), since he did not buck up, his grades would have been poor and if allowed to graduate as an ASEAN Scholar, that would mean that the standards of the ASEAN Scholarship would diminish for NTU, thereby affecting the standings/rankings/prestige of the institution.
So from a purely administrative viewpoint, it would be better (for NTU) to remove him from the scholarship pool in order to protect its integrity. At the end of the day, he was just viewed as a piece of statistic rather than a real person (nothing new there).
Nevertheless, I don’t think it was the having to pay fees for his last semester that pushed him over but the fact that losing the scholarship would mean a significant loss in the quality of career opportunities he would have had (not to mention the ridicule he would face from the elites he knows). The decision to remove him was obviously steeped in bureaucracy and his reaction was typical of someone bred and conditioned by the system to overachieve.
This tragedy is a perfect example of how the system costs lives and livelihoods without blinking an eyelid.
IN SUCH TERRIBLE TIMES LIKE THESE!….
I understand this unsuccessful homicide and tragic suicide as another case arising from computer addiction. Such terrible addiction is afflicting modern youths like a plague. Once a young person is addicted to it, other areas of his life also get affected. So I am not surprised this maths genius grades for his NTU course started to slip.
But being accustomed to the adulation of lower mortals, and not learning how to cope with adversity when being humbled by the harsh realities of life, I am not surprised David’s sense of reality got terribly warped. It doesn’t matter that he’s a Buddhist youth with a ‘Christian’ name. Such addiction is continuing to claim vast numbers of victims from all strata of human society. So our Government must devote more resources and attention to this terrible scourge of modern life.
I am very sad that as a result of this tragic incident, David’s mum, his country Indonesia, NTU and Singapore (as he is an ASEAN scholar) has lost such a promising young man. Good that his lecturer Professor Chan survived the unexpected stabbing to his back. People say Prof Chan is a good lecturer, and he is as clueless as many of us are that things should end up in such a bloody way! How very sad!
So we better watch out for each other in terribly times like this. We must take seriously this adage: that Singaporeans MUST HELP Singaporeans and others. Otherwise, who is going to help us if Singapore is in big trouble? If we can’t help in any way, let’s learn how to give some hard-pressed souls our shoulders to shed their tears and unburden their griefs.
Dear #45 Oh Tham Eng,
Your diagnosis is absolutely correct – the underlying cause of this tragic incident is very likely to be computer game addiction. The neglect of his studies, the de-socialization, the de-personalization, the sudden, violent and unpredictable behavior – all the classic symptoms are there.
This episode is not about school stress, heartlessness or mercenary attitude of NTU, the lack of counselling support or the dynamics of elitism and its pretensions.
Everyone of us should make a concerted effort to detect and defuse this widening scourge in our children, family members, friends and colleagues.
Termination, termination, and termination again… David’s father said the university is purposely using this issue to make it as if it is David’s fault. It may not be the issue at all or if you ask many of his friends and family, IT IS NOT THE ISSUE, PERIOD. The university probably tried to distract us from the real thing because after all they have an image to protect. For now, who knows what happened? It maybe because the professor molested him at the time (yes, meaning the prof is gay. And yes, being married doesn’t mean he is definitely not gay) and David was defending himself. There were lots of blood on his behind, right? And he was face-down when he fell. Please don’t tell me you are all in shock and I am the only one thinking of this possibility. Since so many things sound ‘not right” don’t be surprised if imagination runs wild.
Well,…. speculations are running wild all over the net… IMHO, speculations should be kept to yourself, else it might become fodder for more fire… Due to all these speculations, more people are getting confused, and are more likely to form a subconscious bias toward certain group of student in NTU… or even NTU or Singapore themselves… One thing I would certainly question in this “case” would be… Why would the news, media and police gave such an inaccurate account of the victim’s physical state? To protect the school’s and nation’s reputation?? I don’t think so… they would not act so brazenly… In fact, if this was all intended, I am sure it has back-fired…… No pathologist would mistake a wrist with a neck wound, I presume… I want the media to clarify all these things, as well as giving the prof’s testimony… There is no use by playing detective on such limited evidences, especially if you are trying to base the premise of your argument on his behaviours… The truth is… we know nothing about this case… The media has said their statement, and another group made a rebuke… We are left standing in the middle… picking sides and seeing with subjective views.. I say., let’s just wait for the media and police to make a clearer statement…
Oh Tham Eng,
Please do not post comments which run into the thousands of words. Your last comment was more than 1,000 word long. It will not be allowed. Also, do not cut and paste entire articles from elsewhere. They too run into more than a thousand words.
Try and keep your comments to below 500 words.
Thanks.
anybody knows why ntu website now cannot be accessed?
Is there anything needs to be covered or it just fully used by others too??
Have tried since 3 March… even the nanyang mba website. :(
Ridiculuous.. why such thing like this (network down or whatsoever) happened??