self-righteousness is something we really need to deal with. All of us.

obviously, I’m atheist, why would i care wat some mythic figure says its a sin. (sin being an affront to an non existent god).

science shows it to be neutral, it appears in every population in everytime, it appears in the animal kingdom. perhaps you should try google animal homosexuality or check out the scientific literature on amazon.com

This transgression had been passed down till today, when old forms of sexual worshipping of theirs gods of pleasures, body discovery, arts, multi- creative arts and media, more indulgence and they have given themselves to their own imagination, forsaking their natural use instead seeking pleasure among their own sexes, man to man , female to female man and animal etc.
The only way to escape this transgression is to seek help from God and His ways for He is HOLY.
Repents! for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand
May God have mercy for those who want to be normal. It is a choice not medical or orientation.
Asia Michael

They gave examples of Hitler’s genocide of Jews, Thailand’s civil unrest as illustrations of how the new guard will turn AWARE into. Brilliant !

Maybe we could also add in Pol Pot’s, Idi Amin, rawanda genocide, etc as examples.

The latest have it that the new guard has been kicked off at the EOGM. I am perfectly fine with that because it is the due process of democracy which would be impossible to do under Hilter, Pol Pot, Amin, Hussien…

nmp thio: homosexual activists often try to infiltrate and hijack human rights initiatives to serve their political agenda.

(wink wink)

funny. both senior and junior assume that homosexuals have either family issues or been sexually abused by someone.

Perhaps the parents of homosexuals should ask themselves.

My son/daughter is gay because I’m a distant parent? Because my family has issues? Because i sexually abused my son/daughter?

wonder where they will be heading and their views on homosexuality.

watch the video.

i remember reading about this through ST about a week back, a journalist asked the new exco team why is it that feminist mentor thio is not included in the exco team. the reply was : AWARE is too small an outfit for FM Thio, it is for newbies like josie and the gang.

i wonder what kind of outfit is big enough for FM thio? political figure who can set policies and teach us ignoramuses things which by then we totally cannot siam.

also, the impression i have from the new exco team’s reply is that AWARE to them is like masah masah (toy) for little kid to play first, later than upgrade to bigger outfit.

I know some churches treat it almost like a joke and the members never even check the accounts properly… nor were they given enough time to do it. Some SGM I attend only take 1 hour to finished.

This is a crisis waiting to happen. I hope everyone will learn their lesson.

There was neither complacency nor is it a simple case of sore losers. “Trust” was the rule of conduct.

I know it sounds old fashion and hokey, but things were done, no pun intended, in good faith.

Too bad that was taken advantage of.

(a) the manner in which the takeover is done. One can say it is covert hijacking, others will say it is strategising. Tomatoes , tomartoes.

Let’s say you find a man in your house in the dead of night who’s trying to be silent, wearing a mask and holding a club. Strategy? sure, but to what end? Pretty obvious that he’s up to no good… certainly not trying to help you.

b) New guard not experienced, incompetent, etc.. hmmm that’’s what they say about obama didn’t they ? Maybe we should let time be the judge and kick them out when they really cock it up.

HAHAHA… Obama? talk about lousy analogy… Obama has a very experiexed team behind him and he himself was involved in politics long before he became president.
Let me ask you: would you hire a serial kleptomaniac as a security guard and wait for him to “cock up” before doing anything?

c) firing old staff – hmmm, when obama took office, did the other office holders change ? Rice replace by Clinton, etc, etc. Any bosses could fire anyone for any reason. I was given a month’s notice in my last job and ask to leave. The reason my boss gave was that “we don’t need you anymore!”. I felt like shit but i couldn’t take legal action cause he has every right to do so.

sure, it’s legal. You’re perfectly right. But don’t forget that the new exco knows peanuts about how aware is run. Not to mention that the full time staff are the ones who actually run the day to day things. It’s obvious to anyone with the smarts of a concussed baboon that they’re trying to destroy aware before they’re kicked out.

d) new guard lied about not knowing each other when in fact all were from the same church – mmm, ok they lied. Would it have made any difference if they had said so from the start ? maybe, maybe not..

Ok, they lied? so you like leaders who are habitual liars? Isn’t lying a sin? heh. ‘sides, no right-minded person wants his leaders to be liars.

e) “They will push their values and will attempt a hostile take over of other societies, buddhists, clans, etc – i think that is abit far fetched. Granted that could happen.”

I was exaggerating so as to emphasize the full implications of the incident.

“The onus is for all to be vigilante”

What? do you want crazy protests and civil disobedience and a free-for all for societies (like what’s happening in thailand) in singapore? that’s insane, but I guess that wouldn’t concern you.

“but there is hardly any basis to accuse them now, is there ?”

Did you just completely contradict yourself?

f) New guard should form their own party – Yes, they could, (somebody suggested BEWARE!, that is a good one!) but they could also do what they have done now, take over AWARE. No right or wrong here, is there?

should we all do things simply because we can? Torture little animals in our rooms because we’re stronger? Bully weaker people?
While this is my subjective opinion, I believe that they’ve been completely boorish and barbaric and unethical in attacking aware. Legal, yes. Right? I wouldn’t think so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAAEusdEKxY&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPF-cgJyOpI&feature=channel

Watch it

What I can’t understand is how someone like that can be so narrow-minded and illogical. Her statements show that she has high contempt not just of children’s ability to think for themselves, but also for their parents, and by implication, society as a whole.

“For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.” – H. L. Mencken

If you see lying as part of the strategy (mind you, you equate it to the PAP in battle – hope the PAP doesn’t hear you for insinuating that lying is ok), then I have nothing to say except that to most of us, lying discredits the liar. Whatever else the liar say and do afterward has no more value.

From the comments that you have written, you have not been fair and just. Even the blind can tell you are on the new EXCO side. Maybe you do not notice it or you have other agenda in writing all this comments. So that got me thinking whether you are connected in any way. You opinion is very subjective …. not objective at all.

When Hitler try to conquer Europe and kill the Jews, he said it is to clean up the world and to do so he must exercise force to take over control so he declared War. He killed millions of Jews in the name of redirecting the world because he sincerely felt the world has gone wrong and he has the answer and he will lead the world into a new world order that will make the world a better place. Sound familiar?

Joe, do you now understand why we felt that way we felt? Naturally inside us we felt something is amiss here and as history tells us, when we try to force our values and ideas on others, innocents have to suffer. There is one word used for people who do that “DICTATORSHIP”

We do not want that to happened here. You adopted the attitude of wait and see, but if we do not seize the problem now when it spread it will be too late. We are only doing our bits here to warn and for-warn people of what is the possible future if we allow this to happen.

You are telling everyone just watch and see the show and not to make too much of a fuss over it. It is between them and let them handle it and we should just ignore it and do nothing.

Joe, you are not facing the fact and you are not even try to listen to what others have to say. You are not objective at all, you are just indifferent. You don;t care because maybe it doesn’t touches your skin.

I am neither. I am not even a Christian. One can have a objective opinion about issues without having to be linked to either camp. . i have said earlier that what prompted me to write is the comments i have been reading in the website.

Everyone is angry, i understand. I just want everyone to think through clearly what they are angry about.

Heck, I was angry today because it started to rain when i leave my house and no one told me about it. But can i start blaming everyone around me ?

I think i have said enough. Let’s hope good sense prevail in all of us.