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		<title>By: fbvggbgv</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/04/ptc-fines-on-transport-companies-are-meaningless/comment-page-1/#comment-61421</link>
		<dc:creator>fbvggbgv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>too little fine.

very strange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>too little fine.</p>
<p>very strange.</p>
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		<title>By: X</title>
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		<dc:creator>X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw another article like this on TODAY too. 

Thankfully, someone brought this up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw another article like this on TODAY too. </p>
<p>Thankfully, someone brought this up.</p>
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		<title>By: aiyoyo</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/04/ptc-fines-on-transport-companies-are-meaningless/comment-page-1/#comment-61208</link>
		<dc:creator>aiyoyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aiyoyo

is it like people say

left pocket go to right pocket?

aiyoyo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aiyoyo</p>
<p>is it like people say</p>
<p>left pocket go to right pocket?</p>
<p>aiyoyo</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/04/ptc-fines-on-transport-companies-are-meaningless/comment-page-1/#comment-61194</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>36) ysl on April 8th, 2009 4.20 pm These transport companies are more or less .......
One way to improve service is to fine the people responsible including the CEO.

yep FINE THE CEO!!! I&#039;m sure the CEO&#039;s salary can cover the fine ^_^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>36) ysl on April 8th, 2009 4.20 pm These transport companies are more or less &#8230;&#8230;.<br />
One way to improve service is to fine the people responsible including the CEO.</p>
<p>yep FINE THE CEO!!! I&#8217;m sure the CEO&#8217;s salary can cover the fine ^_^</p>
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		<title>By: ysl</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/04/ptc-fines-on-transport-companies-are-meaningless/comment-page-1/#comment-61176</link>
		<dc:creator>ysl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These transport companies are more or less guaranteed to make a good profits. If the profit is not up to their expectation the fares will be increased. And commuters are made to pay more. The government fines them and if that cuts into their profits the commuters will have to make good for the shortfall.
One way to improve service is to fine the people responsible including the CEO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These transport companies are more or less guaranteed to make a good profits. If the profit is not up to their expectation the fares will be increased. And commuters are made to pay more. The government fines them and if that cuts into their profits the commuters will have to make good for the shortfall.<br />
One way to improve service is to fine the people responsible including the CEO.</p>
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		<title>By: sensational</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/04/ptc-fines-on-transport-companies-are-meaningless/comment-page-1/#comment-61107</link>
		<dc:creator>sensational</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 02:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both PTC  and SBS (and all other state-owned transport company) are under one roof, under the single same big umbrella that pay and feed them. They are like siblings or counsin to each other, and therefore why should they hurting each other? So what if the fines is 0.00024% of its revenue? They are just putting on show. Their service standard will remains because any increase in frequency will hurt their profits, which indirectly hurts our government profits too.

That&#039;s what you get when you vote for single party government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both PTC  and SBS (and all other state-owned transport company) are under one roof, under the single same big umbrella that pay and feed them. They are like siblings or counsin to each other, and therefore why should they hurting each other? So what if the fines is 0.00024% of its revenue? They are just putting on show. Their service standard will remains because any increase in frequency will hurt their profits, which indirectly hurts our government profits too.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what you get when you vote for single party government.</p>
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		<title>By: Lesser Mortal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lesser Mortal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Govt should lower the fine for littering to $0.05 from the current $500 to keep up with times. It will still be a deterent judging from the fine of $4k to a company with profits of $42mil.  

I am guessing the PTC chairman will be the next President of Singapore..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Govt should lower the fine for littering to $0.05 from the current $500 to keep up with times. It will still be a deterent judging from the fine of $4k to a company with profits of $42mil.  </p>
<p>I am guessing the PTC chairman will be the next President of Singapore..</p>
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		<title>By: SZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, ain&#039;t it amazing how fast and efficient PTC will increase fare for them ,and yet when it comes to issues such as overcrowding or timeliness, it doesn&#039;t seem to do as much...

a 100 dollars fine for such an act, while they allow commuters to be fine $20 pax for cheating on fares...what an ironic...

so it won&#039;t be obvious to us all what is the objective of PTC. however, with this new fiasco, more people will become aware of the PTC stand. if it didn&#039;t try to fine this companies the peanut sum, maybe we won&#039;t say anything. however, by fining them for such a small amount, they have just open themselves up to scrutiny and criticizm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, ain&#8217;t it amazing how fast and efficient PTC will increase fare for them ,and yet when it comes to issues such as overcrowding or timeliness, it doesn&#8217;t seem to do as much&#8230;</p>
<p>a 100 dollars fine for such an act, while they allow commuters to be fine $20 pax for cheating on fares&#8230;what an ironic&#8230;</p>
<p>so it won&#8217;t be obvious to us all what is the objective of PTC. however, with this new fiasco, more people will become aware of the PTC stand. if it didn&#8217;t try to fine this companies the peanut sum, maybe we won&#8217;t say anything. however, by fining them for such a small amount, they have just open themselves up to scrutiny and criticizm</p>
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		<title>By: ronin</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/04/ptc-fines-on-transport-companies-are-meaningless/comment-page-1/#comment-61042</link>
		<dc:creator>ronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a few thousand dollars &quot;fine&quot;. The &quot;fines&quot; are much less than the cost to a bus company for improving their service....so even an idiot CEO would not bother with what PTC say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a few thousand dollars &#8220;fine&#8221;. The &#8220;fines&#8221; are much less than the cost to a bus company for improving their service&#8230;.so even an idiot CEO would not bother with what PTC say.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/04/ptc-fines-on-transport-companies-are-meaningless/comment-page-1/#comment-61033</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the state we are in. The relevant authorities are making a joke out of the entire issue of improving transport standards. It is saying that the transport companies have come to such an advanced stage in it development that any shortcomings are either inevitable if not impossible, thus the tickle meted out to reflect its opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the state we are in. The relevant authorities are making a joke out of the entire issue of improving transport standards. It is saying that the transport companies have come to such an advanced stage in it development that any shortcomings are either inevitable if not impossible, thus the tickle meted out to reflect its opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: PARF-ARF</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/04/ptc-fines-on-transport-companies-are-meaningless/comment-page-1/#comment-61031</link>
		<dc:creator>PARF-ARF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come, come lets invite the PTC to write here what they have got to say about these PEANUT FINES. If I am not wrong, Mr Gerald Ee USED spoke a lot and a lot always about public transport issues.
Please Mr Ee, or whoever knows him happen to read here, please request him to comment on these ULTRA SMALL-SIZE PEANUT FINES.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come, come lets invite the PTC to write here what they have got to say about these PEANUT FINES. If I am not wrong, Mr Gerald Ee USED spoke a lot and a lot always about public transport issues.<br />
Please Mr Ee, or whoever knows him happen to read here, please request him to comment on these ULTRA SMALL-SIZE PEANUT FINES.</p>
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		<title>By: PARF-ARF</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/04/ptc-fines-on-transport-companies-are-meaningless/comment-page-1/#comment-61029</link>
		<dc:creator>PARF-ARF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, simple economy-blues (non)sense.
Price of oil has dropped tremendously, so the amount of penalties dropped similarly. . . ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, simple economy-blues (non)sense.<br />
Price of oil has dropped tremendously, so the amount of penalties dropped similarly. . . ..</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the gov keep making a fool of itself ?
Nope ... It is appropiate to say that the gov is in fact making the fool out of citizen. 

They want you to be the fool to believe that the gov is serious in giving fine to their own bodies, no matter how pathetic the fine is. Remember the fine is just to prove a point, nothing else, just like the laughable fine for editors in WSJ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the gov keep making a fool of itself ?<br />
Nope &#8230; It is appropiate to say that the gov is in fact making the fool out of citizen. </p>
<p>They want you to be the fool to believe that the gov is serious in giving fine to their own bodies, no matter how pathetic the fine is. Remember the fine is just to prove a point, nothing else, just like the laughable fine for editors in WSJ.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/04/ptc-fines-on-transport-companies-are-meaningless/comment-page-1/#comment-61003</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The small fines are just to give people the impression that PTC is regulating SMRT, therefore discouraging more opposition votes. I think Singaporeans must be aware of these cheapo tactics by PTC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The small fines are just to give people the impression that PTC is regulating SMRT, therefore discouraging more opposition votes. I think Singaporeans must be aware of these cheapo tactics by PTC.</p>
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		<title>By: Yogi Bear</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/04/ptc-fines-on-transport-companies-are-meaningless/comment-page-1/#comment-61002</link>
		<dc:creator>Yogi Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is simply ridiculous.  $100 fine for the operator may be less than the penalty for some of the fare cheats.

If the PTC is serious about improving transport services, it should cap the profit of the operator at a reasonable level (the present practice?).  A service deficiency lowers the cap but a service excellence (over and above the standard) increases the cap.  The PTC must remember that the metrics drive behavior of the operator.

Now, it that so difficult?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is simply ridiculous.  $100 fine for the operator may be less than the penalty for some of the fare cheats.</p>
<p>If the PTC is serious about improving transport services, it should cap the profit of the operator at a reasonable level (the present practice?).  A service deficiency lowers the cap but a service excellence (over and above the standard) increases the cap.  The PTC must remember that the metrics drive behavior of the operator.</p>
<p>Now, it that so difficult?</p>
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		<title>By: Layer123</title>
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		<dc:creator>Layer123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$100 fine... ask $1000 to donate to PTC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$100 fine&#8230; ask $1000 to donate to PTC</p>
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		<title>By: My shirt left pocket has also right pocket</title>
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		<dc:creator>My shirt left pocket has also right pocket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is SBS a GLC?
Who forms the PTC? 
2 questions will do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is SBS a GLC?<br />
Who forms the PTC?<br />
2 questions will do.</p>
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		<title>By: eroke</title>
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		<dc:creator>eroke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...$100 fines. That is the best PTC can come up with. What a great idea from a great team. They must have endless sleepless nights to come up with this solution. Keep up the good work PTC - you guys never fail to degrade your capabilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;$100 fines. That is the best PTC can come up with. What a great idea from a great team. They must have endless sleepless nights to come up with this solution. Keep up the good work PTC &#8211; you guys never fail to degrade your capabilities.</p>
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		<title>By: lobo76</title>
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		<dc:creator>lobo76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 05:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure if anything can be done for the trains on the NS line. They are already only 2 minutes apart iirc. The only way to increase capacity is to have coaches where the door does not open. i.e now is 6, increase to 8, where the 2 at each end do not open their doors. 

For bus, there is lots to do. Simply having more buses will do wonders. If they are not at the stage where the buses are continuously appearing at each bus stop, that means there is capacity to increase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure if anything can be done for the trains on the NS line. They are already only 2 minutes apart iirc. The only way to increase capacity is to have coaches where the door does not open. i.e now is 6, increase to 8, where the 2 at each end do not open their doors. </p>
<p>For bus, there is lots to do. Simply having more buses will do wonders. If they are not at the stage where the buses are continuously appearing at each bus stop, that means there is capacity to increase.</p>
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		<title>By: xtrocious</title>
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		<dc:creator>xtrocious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 05:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can fine too much?

There is an old saying that goes - if you want to punish the child, first find out who&#039;s the parent...

In this instance, it is ah kong who owns substantial stakes in both...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can fine too much?</p>
<p>There is an old saying that goes &#8211; if you want to punish the child, first find out who&#8217;s the parent&#8230;</p>
<p>In this instance, it is ah kong who owns substantial stakes in both&#8230;</p>
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