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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/04/rubbish-pile-up-in-pap-ward/comment-page-1/#comment-103899</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 12:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If our super educational system and civil service is producing robots then &quot;Little Red Dot&quot; is sunk. Unless somebody complaint then nothing is done is an early sign that the system is breaking down not by design but apathy. Super efficient SinKapore having rubbish piling up and remain so until member of the public compliant  otherwise nothing is done. This is news indeed. I am sick and tired reading the gahment controlled medias- basically it is a mouth piece of PAP. Only good news favourable to them and opposition party never have a look in. We the young SinKaporean must be prepared to do what younth demand- change and to keep to good old tradition we must be rebellious and not be Yes Sir 3 bagful type. We demand change and must continue to do so until its happen. What have we to loose? Wait for more FT/FW to take our jobs and queue up for free food? Enough is enough. If more of us(in ten of thousand ) dare to demonstrate then the table will be turned. Only when we stay as spectators that the PAP regime could continue to divide and rule. They could target a few leaders but if we join in spontenously without a clear leader for the regime to target, then maybe the message could get through that we have had enough of LKY and PAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If our super educational system and civil service is producing robots then &#8220;Little Red Dot&#8221; is sunk. Unless somebody complaint then nothing is done is an early sign that the system is breaking down not by design but apathy. Super efficient SinKapore having rubbish piling up and remain so until member of the public compliant  otherwise nothing is done. This is news indeed. I am sick and tired reading the gahment controlled medias- basically it is a mouth piece of PAP. Only good news favourable to them and opposition party never have a look in. We the young SinKaporean must be prepared to do what younth demand- change and to keep to good old tradition we must be rebellious and not be Yes Sir 3 bagful type. We demand change and must continue to do so until its happen. What have we to loose? Wait for more FT/FW to take our jobs and queue up for free food? Enough is enough. If more of us(in ten of thousand ) dare to demonstrate then the table will be turned. Only when we stay as spectators that the PAP regime could continue to divide and rule. They could target a few leaders but if we join in spontenously without a clear leader for the regime to target, then maybe the message could get through that we have had enough of LKY and PAP.</p>
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		<title>By: MC Harding</title>
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		<dc:creator>MC Harding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The PAP govt don&#039;t care.  they are all rich rich FAT CATS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The PAP govt don&#8217;t care.  they are all rich rich FAT CATS.</p>
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		<title>By: need framework for mossie solving</title>
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		<dc:creator>need framework for mossie solving</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. have a website showing the spots where mossies still a problem.
2. gather stats on what kinds of mossies they are : aedes or non aedes.
from experience, 50:50 composition.
3. neighbors must start communicating with each other.
    some have mossie problem but never tell neighbors since most come home, sleep, wakeup go to work, never greet neighbors or talk frankly and openly unlike the good old kampong days.

4. encourage &#039;whistleblowers&#039; such that anyone who encounter mossies can immediately notify the whole block and neighborhood blocks. Have a public notice board large and prominent enough to allow residents immediate posting of mossie encounters.

spray and spray. but mossies must disappear and disappear.
some may be OBLIVIOUS to this problem if they come home late at night only as the DENGUE types usually typically attack in the day and morning. Yes. its behavior is different from the harmless mossies which hunt you usually at night .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. have a website showing the spots where mossies still a problem.<br />
2. gather stats on what kinds of mossies they are : aedes or non aedes.<br />
from experience, 50:50 composition.<br />
3. neighbors must start communicating with each other.<br />
    some have mossie problem but never tell neighbors since most come home, sleep, wakeup go to work, never greet neighbors or talk frankly and openly unlike the good old kampong days.</p>
<p>4. encourage &#8216;whistleblowers&#8217; such that anyone who encounter mossies can immediately notify the whole block and neighborhood blocks. Have a public notice board large and prominent enough to allow residents immediate posting of mossie encounters.</p>
<p>spray and spray. but mossies must disappear and disappear.<br />
some may be OBLIVIOUS to this problem if they come home late at night only as the DENGUE types usually typically attack in the day and morning. Yes. its behavior is different from the harmless mossies which hunt you usually at night .</p>
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		<title>By: sg is small, together lets solve problems</title>
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		<dc:creator>sg is small, together lets solve problems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope that this mosquito thingie can be solved.

Afterall, this 1st world is so small compared to even HK.

So, with this in mind and recalling the wonderfully gifted talents we have,
and their world standing, I feel that this problem should not persist for eternity.

Lets see the problems solved . I think they can. But 1st the mosquitos have to disappear. 

1 life too many.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that this mosquito thingie can be solved.</p>
<p>Afterall, this 1st world is so small compared to even HK.</p>
<p>So, with this in mind and recalling the wonderfully gifted talents we have,<br />
and their world standing, I feel that this problem should not persist for eternity.</p>
<p>Lets see the problems solved . I think they can. But 1st the mosquitos have to disappear. </p>
<p>1 life too many.</p>
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		<title>By: HDB lost their Bon Bons also?</title>
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		<dc:creator>HDB lost their Bon Bons also?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 11:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe HDB also lost money in the MiniBons, that&#039;s why cant afford a supervisor to do the rounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe HDB also lost money in the MiniBons, that&#8217;s why cant afford a supervisor to do the rounds.</p>
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		<title>By: somewhere in Aljunied GRC</title>
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		<dc:creator>somewhere in Aljunied GRC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 10:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My neighborhood also have many mosquitos.
Been like this since about half a year ago.
They spray here and there sometimes but apparently
the mosquitos still are alive and well. 
So, the thing i dont know is what is the effect of their work?

When I was young, I come from a kampong. Mosquitos are common. But never was there dengue problem I was aware of . bites were just itchy and no risk of dengue. Nowadays, with modernization, seems like i have to face risk of dengue in a developed country where the land space is not big compared to usa or other 1st worlds.

a few of my neighbors have been hospitalised recently. 

when i was living in another estate sometime ago, there was no mosquito problem for about 10 odd years.

then there is the TB thingie. being asymptomatic, no one really knows how many are infected until it triggers a symptom. Where does it come from? is it getting mo and mo? so what could be the cause? I dare not give my real opinion for my personal salvation.

I wonder why recently years more and more crimes apparently? is this true?
to me it feels that way altho I cannot prove it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My neighborhood also have many mosquitos.<br />
Been like this since about half a year ago.<br />
They spray here and there sometimes but apparently<br />
the mosquitos still are alive and well.<br />
So, the thing i dont know is what is the effect of their work?</p>
<p>When I was young, I come from a kampong. Mosquitos are common. But never was there dengue problem I was aware of . bites were just itchy and no risk of dengue. Nowadays, with modernization, seems like i have to face risk of dengue in a developed country where the land space is not big compared to usa or other 1st worlds.</p>
<p>a few of my neighbors have been hospitalised recently. </p>
<p>when i was living in another estate sometime ago, there was no mosquito problem for about 10 odd years.</p>
<p>then there is the TB thingie. being asymptomatic, no one really knows how many are infected until it triggers a symptom. Where does it come from? is it getting mo and mo? so what could be the cause? I dare not give my real opinion for my personal salvation.</p>
<p>I wonder why recently years more and more crimes apparently? is this true?<br />
to me it feels that way altho I cannot prove it.</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 09:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a darn good one Ganga, so accurately described!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a darn good one Ganga, so accurately described!</p>
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		<title>By: Ganga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ganga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 04:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;
When you breed robots for the system, you can&#039;t expect much. The typical civil servant works on the following algorithm:

[start]
Report on time
Keep low profile
Escape from sight to have/buy breakfast
Return to settle outstanding work
Keep low profile
Go for lunch with colleagues
Return and settle outstanding work
Keep low profile
Take credit for work done wherever possible
Escape from office
[end]

[if] Problem is presented
Consider delegating/rejecting/avoiding
[or]
Offer ambiguous answer
Stall unles urgent/immediate
[or][if] urgent/immediate
Act with least effort
Problem resolved
Forget about it
[start]

There is no consideration for resolving matters completely - everything is just bite-sized problems. As long as the incident is dealt with, the problem is considered solved. You wouldn&#039;t expect a computer program or a robot to exercise initiative - the same goes for the typical civil servant in Singapore.

&lt;b&gt;Criteria to be a civil servant by the way is Think Less Do More....&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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When you breed robots for the system, you can&#8217;t expect much. The typical civil servant works on the following algorithm:</p>
<p>[start]<br />
Report on time<br />
Keep low profile<br />
Escape from sight to have/buy breakfast<br />
Return to settle outstanding work<br />
Keep low profile<br />
Go for lunch with colleagues<br />
Return and settle outstanding work<br />
Keep low profile<br />
Take credit for work done wherever possible<br />
Escape from office<br />
[end]</p>
<p>[if] Problem is presented<br />
Consider delegating/rejecting/avoiding<br />
[or]<br />
Offer ambiguous answer<br />
Stall unles urgent/immediate<br />
[or][if] urgent/immediate<br />
Act with least effort<br />
Problem resolved<br />
Forget about it<br />
[start]</p>
<p>There is no consideration for resolving matters completely &#8211; everything is just bite-sized problems. As long as the incident is dealt with, the problem is considered solved. You wouldn&#8217;t expect a computer program or a robot to exercise initiative &#8211; the same goes for the typical civil servant in Singapore.</p>
<p><b>Criteria to be a civil servant by the way is Think Less Do More&#8230;.</b><br />
</i></p>
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		<title>By: Wong Wai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wong Wai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, it happen to my area as well, you call them, they clean up, I dont know what the suporvisor &#039;s work are for. is not the workers, or the cleaners, but the people/department overlook them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, it happen to my area as well, you call them, they clean up, I dont know what the suporvisor &#8216;s work are for. is not the workers, or the cleaners, but the people/department overlook them.</p>
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