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		<title>By: daverevolution</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/04/singaporeans-need-to-overcome-negative-traits/comment-page-2/#comment-124638</link>
		<dc:creator>daverevolution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 05:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One word for singapore and pap..

these ppl in the goverment can do what they like..sooner or later..the fustrations will mount and they will be led to REVOLUTION!!!!! DOWN WITH PAP AND THE GOVERMENT!!

THEY EVEN MAKE FOREIGNERS BE OFFICERS IN THE ARMY AND MAKE THEM SIGN ON BUT THEIR OWN LOCAL WHO IS LOYAL AND BETTER,THEY REFUSED..


I REST MY CASE...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One word for singapore and pap..</p>
<p>these ppl in the goverment can do what they like..sooner or later..the fustrations will mount and they will be led to REVOLUTION!!!!! DOWN WITH PAP AND THE GOVERMENT!!</p>
<p>THEY EVEN MAKE FOREIGNERS BE OFFICERS IN THE ARMY AND MAKE THEM SIGN ON BUT THEIR OWN LOCAL WHO IS LOYAL AND BETTER,THEY REFUSED..</p>
<p>I REST MY CASE&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: creducator</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/04/singaporeans-need-to-overcome-negative-traits/comment-page-2/#comment-79924</link>
		<dc:creator>creducator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 05:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how Tan&#039;s hope can come true if nothing is done about the education system, or if Singapore continues to allow the import of foreign liberal cultures and values into our education system and to our young.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how Tan&#8217;s hope can come true if nothing is done about the education system, or if Singapore continues to allow the import of foreign liberal cultures and values into our education system and to our young.</p>
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		<title>By: poeticmi</title>
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		<dc:creator>poeticmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 02:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ArtReach: 

Are you suggesting that we blame people, people like you and me, instead? People who&#039;s lives are being shaped by systems, policies and procedures and yet being blamed if those systems, policies and procedures fail?

What and whose values are you referring to? Should we just shut up and sit down in a &#039;democratic&#039; country?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ArtReach: </p>
<p>Are you suggesting that we blame people, people like you and me, instead? People who&#8217;s lives are being shaped by systems, policies and procedures and yet being blamed if those systems, policies and procedures fail?</p>
<p>What and whose values are you referring to? Should we just shut up and sit down in a &#8216;democratic&#8217; country?</p>
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		<title>By: ArtReach</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArtReach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 09:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No need to educate other people on the values. There are already many &#039;educators&#039; around and plus the many people here who responded to the article. 

Just start from ourselves before expecting other people to do so or putting the blame on the systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No need to educate other people on the values. There are already many &#8216;educators&#8217; around and plus the many people here who responded to the article. </p>
<p>Just start from ourselves before expecting other people to do so or putting the blame on the systems.</p>
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		<title>By: ADIEMUSO</title>
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		<dc:creator>ADIEMUSO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 08:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>human beings are a lot of funny people. though pride, self esteem and other non tangible factors are more important than tangible ones i.e cash,food,housing, human beings allowed themselves to be subjugated as long as the minor needs are satisfied. only when the latter is acutely lacking will the subconcious awake to realise that it was the acute lack of the former which had been causing the deprivation of the latter.
lets not kid ourselves, things will continue to be so unless we face a big calamity. otherwise status quo. no point wastin time preaching about national values when the utmost importance as of now is to bring dough to poor families sprouting up around the fringes of the island. espousing verbal ideals and no practical actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>human beings are a lot of funny people. though pride, self esteem and other non tangible factors are more important than tangible ones i.e cash,food,housing, human beings allowed themselves to be subjugated as long as the minor needs are satisfied. only when the latter is acutely lacking will the subconcious awake to realise that it was the acute lack of the former which had been causing the deprivation of the latter.<br />
lets not kid ourselves, things will continue to be so unless we face a big calamity. otherwise status quo. no point wastin time preaching about national values when the utmost importance as of now is to bring dough to poor families sprouting up around the fringes of the island. espousing verbal ideals and no practical actions.</p>
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		<title>By: aygee</title>
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		<dc:creator>aygee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 03:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about our Asian culture of &quot;Speak only when spoken to&quot;...

and the authoritarian style of management, and in schools?  We are taught that teachers are always right, parents are always right, top down.

Compare with western culture where children are asked to speak up, challenge, think.

Then we join the army, which further exacerbates the idea of authority.  added with a culture of reprimand, no room for failure. 

Not surprising we develop a kiasu culture, a culture of covering one&#039;s bottom first, a culture of finger pointing, of not making a decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about our Asian culture of &#8220;Speak only when spoken to&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>and the authoritarian style of management, and in schools?  We are taught that teachers are always right, parents are always right, top down.</p>
<p>Compare with western culture where children are asked to speak up, challenge, think.</p>
<p>Then we join the army, which further exacerbates the idea of authority.  added with a culture of reprimand, no room for failure. </p>
<p>Not surprising we develop a kiasu culture, a culture of covering one&#8217;s bottom first, a culture of finger pointing, of not making a decision.</p>
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		<title>By: mice is nice</title>
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		<dc:creator>mice is nice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 06:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, our govt does have enough support. lol....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, our govt does have enough support. lol&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: tbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>tbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 00:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; 67) kkk: Our system is not too different in this aspect. [from China]
&gt; 69) poeticmi: &quot;...Never mind what the people think. That’s another problem.”,MM Lee

I don&#039;t think our political system is very different from China in many ways. The difference is that the Chinese Communist Party has more political capital. 

In China, resources are diverted to grow the big cities, and the development in rural areas is relatively very slow. Even then the government still has the support of many people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; 67) kkk: Our system is not too different in this aspect. [from China]<br />
&gt; 69) poeticmi: &#8220;&#8230;Never mind what the people think. That’s another problem.”,MM Lee</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think our political system is very different from China in many ways. The difference is that the Chinese Communist Party has more political capital. </p>
<p>In China, resources are diverted to grow the big cities, and the development in rural areas is relatively very slow. Even then the government still has the support of many people.</p>
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		<title>By: poeticmi</title>
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		<dc:creator>poeticmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 04:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read this Quote:

&quot;I am often accused of interfering in the private lives of citizens. Yet, if I did not, had I not done that, we wouldn’t be here today. And I say without the slightest remorse, that we wouldn’t be here, we would not have made economic progress, if we had not intervened on very personal matters – who your neighbor is, how you live, the noise you make, how you spit or what language you use. We decide what is right. Never mind what the people think. That’s another problem.”

Guess who said it?

MM Lee (speech at National Day rally 1986, ST, 20 April 1987)

It sums up everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read this Quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;I am often accused of interfering in the private lives of citizens. Yet, if I did not, had I not done that, we wouldn’t be here today. And I say without the slightest remorse, that we wouldn’t be here, we would not have made economic progress, if we had not intervened on very personal matters – who your neighbor is, how you live, the noise you make, how you spit or what language you use. We decide what is right. Never mind what the people think. That’s another problem.”</p>
<p>Guess who said it?</p>
<p>MM Lee (speech at National Day rally 1986, ST, 20 April 1987)</p>
<p>It sums up everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Tan Kin Lian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tan Kin Lian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 05:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi kkk (#67)

I am not so familiar with the system in China, so my comments may not be well informed.

I observe that the election of the leadership of the China Communist Party appears to be democratic. The party cadres elect the leadership at various levels, from the lowest level and they influence the leadership at the top levels. 

I think, in such an environment, the wishes of the masses will have a larger impact on the policies and decisions of the top leadership.

There must be several million party cadres in China involved in the election. So, this process does involve the views of many people. It is more representative than the actual system adopted in many other &quot;democratic countries&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi kkk (#67)</p>
<p>I am not so familiar with the system in China, so my comments may not be well informed.</p>
<p>I observe that the election of the leadership of the China Communist Party appears to be democratic. The party cadres elect the leadership at various levels, from the lowest level and they influence the leadership at the top levels. </p>
<p>I think, in such an environment, the wishes of the masses will have a larger impact on the policies and decisions of the top leadership.</p>
<p>There must be several million party cadres in China involved in the election. So, this process does involve the views of many people. It is more representative than the actual system adopted in many other &#8220;democratic countries&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: kkk</title>
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		<dc:creator>kkk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 02:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#66 Mr Tan,

Isn&#039;t China&#039;s political system based on the same concept of &quot;elitist planning&quot;? They recruit the &quot;best&quot; people into the single central command that master-plans for the whole country. Our system is not too different in this aspect.

Decision-making in a less or non-socialist system is usually considered to be more decentralised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#66 Mr Tan,</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t China&#8217;s political system based on the same concept of &#8220;elitist planning&#8221;? They recruit the &#8220;best&#8221; people into the single central command that master-plans for the whole country. Our system is not too different in this aspect.</p>
<p>Decision-making in a less or non-socialist system is usually considered to be more decentralised.</p>
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		<title>By: Tan Kin Lian</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/04/singaporeans-need-to-overcome-negative-traits/comment-page-2/#comment-72592</link>
		<dc:creator>Tan Kin Lian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 07:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi 1c (#65)

I do not consider the planning system in Singapore to be &quot;socialist planning&quot;. If I have to describe it, I would probably choose &quot;elitist planning&quot;.

Under a socialist planning system, I expect to see the following characteristics:

a)  More weight being given to the needs of the people
b)  Opportunity for these people to express their views through their elected representatives.

I find the approach now being adopted in America under President Barack Obama to be laudable. He hears the views of many people and summarises them in a strategy. He articulates the strategy and gets the genuine opinion of the people, through the polls. President Obama has been able to win the support of many people to his &quot;socialist policies&quot;. 

These policies give more weight to the majority of the people in the lower an middle classes, which have been most squeezed in recent years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi 1c (#65)</p>
<p>I do not consider the planning system in Singapore to be &#8220;socialist planning&#8221;. If I have to describe it, I would probably choose &#8220;elitist planning&#8221;.</p>
<p>Under a socialist planning system, I expect to see the following characteristics:</p>
<p>a)  More weight being given to the needs of the people<br />
b)  Opportunity for these people to express their views through their elected representatives.</p>
<p>I find the approach now being adopted in America under President Barack Obama to be laudable. He hears the views of many people and summarises them in a strategy. He articulates the strategy and gets the genuine opinion of the people, through the polls. President Obama has been able to win the support of many people to his &#8220;socialist policies&#8221;. </p>
<p>These policies give more weight to the majority of the people in the lower an middle classes, which have been most squeezed in recent years.</p>
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		<title>By: 1c</title>
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		<dc:creator>1c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 06:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;64) Tan Kin Lian 
We can encourage our people in Singapore to go beyond their narrow job, and act like a fellow human being&quot;

The fear of stepping out of the standard protocol has very much to do with the &quot;socialist culture&quot; of Singapore.

Despite looking like any other capitalist economy, Singapore rely heavily on socialist planning principles. The government makes plans for the economy and social policies, and the people executes them efficiently.

However, this has created a rigid system of top-down decision making and emphasis on accountability even in everyday life. The burden of accountability has become so large that even the rank and file fear to take responsibility for deviating from the written rules.

So the solution really has to come both ways. The government (bosses, supervisors....) has to be willing to let go. The people also has to become less reliant on the government (bosses, supervisor,....) for instructions, solutions, and responsibility. Only then will people dare to have more initiative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;64) Tan Kin Lian<br />
We can encourage our people in Singapore to go beyond their narrow job, and act like a fellow human being&#8221;</p>
<p>The fear of stepping out of the standard protocol has very much to do with the &#8220;socialist culture&#8221; of Singapore.</p>
<p>Despite looking like any other capitalist economy, Singapore rely heavily on socialist planning principles. The government makes plans for the economy and social policies, and the people executes them efficiently.</p>
<p>However, this has created a rigid system of top-down decision making and emphasis on accountability even in everyday life. The burden of accountability has become so large that even the rank and file fear to take responsibility for deviating from the written rules.</p>
<p>So the solution really has to come both ways. The government (bosses, supervisors&#8230;.) has to be willing to let go. The people also has to become less reliant on the government (bosses, supervisor,&#8230;.) for instructions, solutions, and responsibility. Only then will people dare to have more initiative.</p>
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		<title>By: Tan Kin Lian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tan Kin Lian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 14:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had an interesting encounter with the Immigration Officer at Vancouver Airport. The Immigration officer politely asked a few questions about the purpose and length of my visits.

After he was convinced that I was visiting Canada for three weeks of holiday, and to take a cruise to Alaska, he went out of his way to say a few useful things about Canada - just in a few lines of conversation. There was a queue, so this was done while he was processing the passport.

Here is an officer who went beyond his normal responsibility to play his role as a citizen of Canada, giving a welcome to a visitor. 

We can encourage our people in Singapore to go beyond their narrow job, and act like a fellow human being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had an interesting encounter with the Immigration Officer at Vancouver Airport. The Immigration officer politely asked a few questions about the purpose and length of my visits.</p>
<p>After he was convinced that I was visiting Canada for three weeks of holiday, and to take a cruise to Alaska, he went out of his way to say a few useful things about Canada &#8211; just in a few lines of conversation. There was a queue, so this was done while he was processing the passport.</p>
<p>Here is an officer who went beyond his normal responsibility to play his role as a citizen of Canada, giving a welcome to a visitor. </p>
<p>We can encourage our people in Singapore to go beyond their narrow job, and act like a fellow human being.</p>
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		<title>By: yusuf</title>
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		<dc:creator>yusuf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 17:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well done Mr Tan and all for the exciting discussion thus far. 

I would like to call upon readers who believe in the cause to stand up for election ang give us the chance to vote. SGP are said to be politically apathetic, AWARE incident had proved otherwise. 

One thing I am not happy with the system, it assumes that everyone is from a reasonably mid-class family. Go army need to buy stuff, sch, need laptop, standing for elections need money....it is as if SGP is a company and not a nation anymore. The voice of the working class is hijacked by the docile NTUC (whose Sec Gen is scholar and never had been a manual worker before). The grassroots activities are taken as apolotical and a mechanism to deliver the message of the Govt. The irony is isn&#039;t the Govt itself a political party? Why is Chiam See Tong and Low Thia Kiang legally elected as MP not made Advisor to GROs? GROs an extension of PAP?

Why is PCF not banned? Don&#039;t they know that psychologically when a young child come to associate PAP (symbol) with power, school and pride...we are rubbing democracy with the wrong message in Singapore?

Dear fellow Singaporeans, 

It&#039;s a myth that political talent scarce in Singapore. PAP usually will scout for people in the traditional camps. People you need to scout for those &quot;missing&quot; talents. The unfair rule=effective=is a myth. 

A Govt can&#039;t do without the support of the people. 

A Govt is not the Almighty who are deemed to be so rare that we need to pay them unreasonably exorbitant salary while the citizens though well-qualified need to upgrade constantly formally in their life and accept their fated life as being &quot;not a scholar&quot; not &quot;the talent as defined by the PAP.&quot;

I have no grudges against the ruling Party. Indeed I enjoy the properity brought abt by the PAP governance but I am afraid for the future if we see the continuously arrogant attitude taken by the Govt. we need a counter-ideology any a set of programme for SGP to assure SGP-eans that we are serious with what we are doing and believe me..... we can do it even if it takes time.

Don&#039;t give up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well done Mr Tan and all for the exciting discussion thus far. </p>
<p>I would like to call upon readers who believe in the cause to stand up for election ang give us the chance to vote. SGP are said to be politically apathetic, AWARE incident had proved otherwise. </p>
<p>One thing I am not happy with the system, it assumes that everyone is from a reasonably mid-class family. Go army need to buy stuff, sch, need laptop, standing for elections need money&#8230;.it is as if SGP is a company and not a nation anymore. The voice of the working class is hijacked by the docile NTUC (whose Sec Gen is scholar and never had been a manual worker before). The grassroots activities are taken as apolotical and a mechanism to deliver the message of the Govt. The irony is isn&#8217;t the Govt itself a political party? Why is Chiam See Tong and Low Thia Kiang legally elected as MP not made Advisor to GROs? GROs an extension of PAP?</p>
<p>Why is PCF not banned? Don&#8217;t they know that psychologically when a young child come to associate PAP (symbol) with power, school and pride&#8230;we are rubbing democracy with the wrong message in Singapore?</p>
<p>Dear fellow Singaporeans, </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a myth that political talent scarce in Singapore. PAP usually will scout for people in the traditional camps. People you need to scout for those &#8220;missing&#8221; talents. The unfair rule=effective=is a myth. </p>
<p>A Govt can&#8217;t do without the support of the people. </p>
<p>A Govt is not the Almighty who are deemed to be so rare that we need to pay them unreasonably exorbitant salary while the citizens though well-qualified need to upgrade constantly formally in their life and accept their fated life as being &#8220;not a scholar&#8221; not &#8220;the talent as defined by the PAP.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have no grudges against the ruling Party. Indeed I enjoy the properity brought abt by the PAP governance but I am afraid for the future if we see the continuously arrogant attitude taken by the Govt. we need a counter-ideology any a set of programme for SGP to assure SGP-eans that we are serious with what we are doing and believe me&#8230;.. we can do it even if it takes time.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t give up.</p>
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		<title>By: Tan Kin Lian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tan Kin Lian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 23:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Monetary Authority of Singapore revealed that Lehman Brothers had $500 million of assets with its subsidiaries in Singapore. This is a potential source of funds for investors to get compensation for the losses in investing in the financial products created by Lehman Brothers.

However, MAS said that the disclosure was &quot;not in any way suggesting that legal action is in their best interest&quot;. MAS advised investors to take independent advice with regard to their particular circumstances.

If the regulator is not willing to take the responsibility of making a judgment on this matter, I wonder how the small investor can decide on this matter? Even if they can find a lawyer willing to give this advice, can the small investor afford the legal fees? Good lawyers are expensive.

It would have been better for the regulator to be pro-active in determining the following:

a) Has Lehman Brothers broken any law in Singapore, which are grounds for legal action to be taken by the authority on behalf of the investing public?

b) Is legal action the best course of action in these circumstances.

I have seen examples of the New York State Attorney General take up these matters on behalf of the investing public. 

Why are our regulator and attorney general in Singapore not taking this action? Is this an example of &quot;avoiding responsibility or pushing the responsibility to somebody else?&quot;  If the authority adopts this appraoch, it becomes a part of the Singapore culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Monetary Authority of Singapore revealed that Lehman Brothers had $500 million of assets with its subsidiaries in Singapore. This is a potential source of funds for investors to get compensation for the losses in investing in the financial products created by Lehman Brothers.</p>
<p>However, MAS said that the disclosure was &#8220;not in any way suggesting that legal action is in their best interest&#8221;. MAS advised investors to take independent advice with regard to their particular circumstances.</p>
<p>If the regulator is not willing to take the responsibility of making a judgment on this matter, I wonder how the small investor can decide on this matter? Even if they can find a lawyer willing to give this advice, can the small investor afford the legal fees? Good lawyers are expensive.</p>
<p>It would have been better for the regulator to be pro-active in determining the following:</p>
<p>a) Has Lehman Brothers broken any law in Singapore, which are grounds for legal action to be taken by the authority on behalf of the investing public?</p>
<p>b) Is legal action the best course of action in these circumstances.</p>
<p>I have seen examples of the New York State Attorney General take up these matters on behalf of the investing public. </p>
<p>Why are our regulator and attorney general in Singapore not taking this action? Is this an example of &#8220;avoiding responsibility or pushing the responsibility to somebody else?&#8221;  If the authority adopts this appraoch, it becomes a part of the Singapore culture.</p>
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		<title>By: aloha</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/04/singaporeans-need-to-overcome-negative-traits/comment-page-2/#comment-70429</link>
		<dc:creator>aloha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 06:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Tan, you were part of the old PAP regime. Only after retiring, you suddenly move in opposite mode. I still have qualms your personality, I wonder if you are really trying to do something for the people or having a personal agenda.

Can you please clarify to the public?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Tan, you were part of the old PAP regime. Only after retiring, you suddenly move in opposite mode. I still have qualms your personality, I wonder if you are really trying to do something for the people or having a personal agenda.</p>
<p>Can you please clarify to the public?</p>
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		<title>By: randommindlessness</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/04/singaporeans-need-to-overcome-negative-traits/comment-page-2/#comment-70366</link>
		<dc:creator>randommindlessness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 03:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll give a reason for Mr. Tan on why people like to define their own area of responsibility and not bother about other stuffs, nor going the extra mile to work harder these days.

On personal experience (mind you I do not have alot of exp though, but I had my fair share), what I had noticed was that these people believe they&#039;re paid ONLY to do their job, and will not take on any more chores. Also, they will grumble alot when given more than their fair share of work...sure they won&#039;t complain, but over at their level, top or bottom, they complain to each other and compare. And they all want the best salaries pegged to them, so if they feel anywhere underpaid they&#039;ll only do their fair share of work.

Like what Mr. Tan had said, many are unwilling to take on responsibilities, and would shun them if possible. (Oh you guys have seen it in army, nearly every male has) What I believe that&#039;s causing this system is perhaps, not just the education system taught us, but also what our society has been driven in.

Incentives.

They say people will work harder if they gave more incentives. It used to work great, still works sometimes...but looking at it now, people have been exploiting it as well.  The thing here driving what I call &quot;lazy people&quot; is that since there&#039;s incentives to be given if you work harder, I&#039;d just do my share of work if there ain&#039;t any.

I mean, just look at the army...I&#039;m sure everyone had their fair share of meeting people whom you think would never survive &quot;outside&quot; once they leave. These people are prime example of &quot;lazy people&quot; I&#039;m talking about. They just do their job scope, and push everything else off if possible. The funniest part is, they think they&#039;re doing a whole lot more than &quot;everyone else&quot; and should deserve higher salaries because &quot;everyone else&quot; has higher salaries as well.

So in the end people who sees these takes it that there&#039;s no point going out of their job scope. Nobody cares about even Going the Extra Centermetre, less the Extra Mile. Nowadays for people it&#039;s &quot;None of my business&quot;, &quot;Nothing to be Gained&quot;, &quot;Don&#039;t trouble me&quot;

I believe, however, that this is a trait that cannot be easily cured. Simply because actually, it&#039;s happening all over the world. The only places that doesn&#039;t seem to have such things happening are companies and organizations that treat their employees like family. Because working hard for family and friends seems more worth it than working for a company itself.

But really, I don&#039;t know. I think I&#039;ve not seen nearly enough to judge the World and Myself. Just my two cents on our bad traits.

Regard,
Random</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll give a reason for Mr. Tan on why people like to define their own area of responsibility and not bother about other stuffs, nor going the extra mile to work harder these days.</p>
<p>On personal experience (mind you I do not have alot of exp though, but I had my fair share), what I had noticed was that these people believe they&#8217;re paid ONLY to do their job, and will not take on any more chores. Also, they will grumble alot when given more than their fair share of work&#8230;sure they won&#8217;t complain, but over at their level, top or bottom, they complain to each other and compare. And they all want the best salaries pegged to them, so if they feel anywhere underpaid they&#8217;ll only do their fair share of work.</p>
<p>Like what Mr. Tan had said, many are unwilling to take on responsibilities, and would shun them if possible. (Oh you guys have seen it in army, nearly every male has) What I believe that&#8217;s causing this system is perhaps, not just the education system taught us, but also what our society has been driven in.</p>
<p>Incentives.</p>
<p>They say people will work harder if they gave more incentives. It used to work great, still works sometimes&#8230;but looking at it now, people have been exploiting it as well.  The thing here driving what I call &#8220;lazy people&#8221; is that since there&#8217;s incentives to be given if you work harder, I&#8217;d just do my share of work if there ain&#8217;t any.</p>
<p>I mean, just look at the army&#8230;I&#8217;m sure everyone had their fair share of meeting people whom you think would never survive &#8220;outside&#8221; once they leave. These people are prime example of &#8220;lazy people&#8221; I&#8217;m talking about. They just do their job scope, and push everything else off if possible. The funniest part is, they think they&#8217;re doing a whole lot more than &#8220;everyone else&#8221; and should deserve higher salaries because &#8220;everyone else&#8221; has higher salaries as well.</p>
<p>So in the end people who sees these takes it that there&#8217;s no point going out of their job scope. Nobody cares about even Going the Extra Centermetre, less the Extra Mile. Nowadays for people it&#8217;s &#8220;None of my business&#8221;, &#8220;Nothing to be Gained&#8221;, &#8220;Don&#8217;t trouble me&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe, however, that this is a trait that cannot be easily cured. Simply because actually, it&#8217;s happening all over the world. The only places that doesn&#8217;t seem to have such things happening are companies and organizations that treat their employees like family. Because working hard for family and friends seems more worth it than working for a company itself.</p>
<p>But really, I don&#8217;t know. I think I&#8217;ve not seen nearly enough to judge the World and Myself. Just my two cents on our bad traits.</p>
<p>Regard,<br />
Random</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 02:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand where Kin Lian is coming from by penning this article. But it is the angle at which one looks at a half empty glass.  Arguably there is probably equal if not more Singaporeans who have such positive traits. Leadership of a country plays a pivotal role in creating a nurturing environment to cultivate good common beliefs amongst its people. I agree that political leaders set the tone of the value system in the country. Certainly current spate of events indicates that current leadership departs from the past leadership who believe in hands on approach to solving problems, have strong views on specific core values like no legalised gambling and being forefront in the challenge we are facing. Being in power since independence, the current government has take on a more corporate like approach in dealing with issues. And new office bearers work on the need to climb the corporate ladder by &quot;looking good&quot; to top echelon leaders. Most who have been exposed to branding will learn the art of managing sensitive issue by avoidance and revealing limiting details or just sufficient to appease the mass media, while emphasising on their past good performance. Well a few mistakes aren&#039;t too many. For example, Suzhou investment is probably one of the earliest severe mistakes made. It was not met with much resistance from the ground. It was explained away. This I hope was not the trigger point in Singapore that public or corporate leadership will think that it is ok to make serious mistakes and continue to stay in office. The latest one that is fresh in mind is ABC Learning; Temasek paid A$400m and it is reported this week to be sold for $1 to a charity.  Most singaporeans may not care quietly. Such report brings home the implicit view that it is ok for leaders to make mistake at the expense of someone else money; i wish there are subsequent coverage to this news to send the final message that &quot;it does not pay to make a mistake&quot;.  I believe that most Singaporeans have the required traits. But they need to to be reminded by the leadership who are setting examples for all. If the leadership lives in the shade of &quot;wanting to look good&quot;, then they are setting bad examples in terms of upkeeping our value system.  In my view, all these stem from the lack of political pluralism in Singapore. No deterrence. Since &quot;no matter&quot; what, there is only one choice. When you reach a certain stage of seniority in office, it is hardly possible to &quot;discredit&quot; what you have done.  Imagine you are the only car dealer in Singapore, would you not take a more unreasonable sale approach? It could be customers calling and begging for an appointment with the car dealers, or an upfront downpayment of thousands before you can secure a face-to-face appointment. If Singapore is ours, all Singaporeans need to stand up for what they believe. We need more actions to support our belief system to make it clear to subsequent generations. Lastly, i think to call our education and public transport system &quot;bad policy decisions&quot; may be harsh in my view, as there are clearly great benefits in them (since you constantly commute by MRT); they certainly need improvements but not complete overhaul. They are parts of many things in Singapore that we ought to be proud of. I am constantly reminded by friends living in other parts of the world on these.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand where Kin Lian is coming from by penning this article. But it is the angle at which one looks at a half empty glass.  Arguably there is probably equal if not more Singaporeans who have such positive traits. Leadership of a country plays a pivotal role in creating a nurturing environment to cultivate good common beliefs amongst its people. I agree that political leaders set the tone of the value system in the country. Certainly current spate of events indicates that current leadership departs from the past leadership who believe in hands on approach to solving problems, have strong views on specific core values like no legalised gambling and being forefront in the challenge we are facing. Being in power since independence, the current government has take on a more corporate like approach in dealing with issues. And new office bearers work on the need to climb the corporate ladder by &#8220;looking good&#8221; to top echelon leaders. Most who have been exposed to branding will learn the art of managing sensitive issue by avoidance and revealing limiting details or just sufficient to appease the mass media, while emphasising on their past good performance. Well a few mistakes aren&#8217;t too many. For example, Suzhou investment is probably one of the earliest severe mistakes made. It was not met with much resistance from the ground. It was explained away. This I hope was not the trigger point in Singapore that public or corporate leadership will think that it is ok to make serious mistakes and continue to stay in office. The latest one that is fresh in mind is ABC Learning; Temasek paid A$400m and it is reported this week to be sold for $1 to a charity.  Most singaporeans may not care quietly. Such report brings home the implicit view that it is ok for leaders to make mistake at the expense of someone else money; i wish there are subsequent coverage to this news to send the final message that &#8220;it does not pay to make a mistake&#8221;.  I believe that most Singaporeans have the required traits. But they need to to be reminded by the leadership who are setting examples for all. If the leadership lives in the shade of &#8220;wanting to look good&#8221;, then they are setting bad examples in terms of upkeeping our value system.  In my view, all these stem from the lack of political pluralism in Singapore. No deterrence. Since &#8220;no matter&#8221; what, there is only one choice. When you reach a certain stage of seniority in office, it is hardly possible to &#8220;discredit&#8221; what you have done.  Imagine you are the only car dealer in Singapore, would you not take a more unreasonable sale approach? It could be customers calling and begging for an appointment with the car dealers, or an upfront downpayment of thousands before you can secure a face-to-face appointment. If Singapore is ours, all Singaporeans need to stand up for what they believe. We need more actions to support our belief system to make it clear to subsequent generations. Lastly, i think to call our education and public transport system &#8220;bad policy decisions&#8221; may be harsh in my view, as there are clearly great benefits in them (since you constantly commute by MRT); they certainly need improvements but not complete overhaul. They are parts of many things in Singapore that we ought to be proud of. I am constantly reminded by friends living in other parts of the world on these.</p>
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		<title>By: Tan Kin Lian</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/04/singaporeans-need-to-overcome-negative-traits/comment-page-2/#comment-70233</link>
		<dc:creator>Tan Kin Lian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 15:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish to share this story about the trait of avoiding responsibility.

Six months ago, I tried to top up by EZ Link card at the ATM machine. It did not work. I had to approach the station attendant. He topped up my EZ Link card. I told the attendant that the ATM was not working. His reply, &quot;The machine is under Tansit Link&quot;. He implied that as Transit Link is a different organistation from SMRT, it is not his responsibility. I told him, &quot;Can you tell Transit Link that it is not working?&quot;

Six months later, I tried to top up my EZ Link card at the ATM machine again. Again it is not working. I went to the station attendant one more time to top up my card, and to report that the ATM machine is still now working. I still get the reply, &quot;The ATM machine is under Transit Link&quot;. 

It seemed that many passengers must have reported the fault, and that it is not corrected for the past six months.

Why are Singaporeans so focused on only their specific duty? And they do not bother to correct any fault that falls outside of that specific duty? 

This behaviour is not only for people at the lower level. I have seen this type of behaviour at senior level, including government ministers. It seems to be a Singapore trait. Each person likes to define his own area of responsibility and his KPI. And will not be bothered to go outside of that area, as it does not add to his own KPI.

What a bad trait!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish to share this story about the trait of avoiding responsibility.</p>
<p>Six months ago, I tried to top up by EZ Link card at the ATM machine. It did not work. I had to approach the station attendant. He topped up my EZ Link card. I told the attendant that the ATM was not working. His reply, &#8220;The machine is under Tansit Link&#8221;. He implied that as Transit Link is a different organistation from SMRT, it is not his responsibility. I told him, &#8220;Can you tell Transit Link that it is not working?&#8221;</p>
<p>Six months later, I tried to top up my EZ Link card at the ATM machine again. Again it is not working. I went to the station attendant one more time to top up my card, and to report that the ATM machine is still now working. I still get the reply, &#8220;The ATM machine is under Transit Link&#8221;. </p>
<p>It seemed that many passengers must have reported the fault, and that it is not corrected for the past six months.</p>
<p>Why are Singaporeans so focused on only their specific duty? And they do not bother to correct any fault that falls outside of that specific duty? </p>
<p>This behaviour is not only for people at the lower level. I have seen this type of behaviour at senior level, including government ministers. It seems to be a Singapore trait. Each person likes to define his own area of responsibility and his KPI. And will not be bothered to go outside of that area, as it does not add to his own KPI.</p>
<p>What a bad trait!</p>
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