They were not democratically elected. A group of people who turn up out of the blue and vote themselves into an organisation in which they have not had any prior participation are not acting democratically- they have no moral authority to be in the exco. As you have indicated in #29, the real AWARE was “highjacked”- – this is what terrorists do!
Incidentally your derogatory references to old women, the fat and the flabby are offensive. Can you make your point without being so rude? The new exco should be embarrased that supporters like you are so disrespectful to women.

I guess with their sneaky maneuvering with regards to the leadership grab , the subsequent silence and refusal to give a clear picture of what they intend to do.

I guess Dogma is used by many to justify killing, stealing. lying and cheating. With Divine authority as their backbone, their ends justifies their means?

We know a snake when we see one, as after all the lack of a spine allows for great maneuverability. ;)

Sure, the new Exco did come to power through legal means. But they were slow to announce their agenda, having ignored calls from members and the press for some indication. This raises suspicions, especially when certain Exco members appear to possess values which are against AWARE’s long-standing ones. Need this be elaborated? In addition, it is only recently (like today?) that the new Exco has sent round its CVs, in a somewhat reconcilatory gesture, but has not offered an explanation for its tardiness, neither has it come up with a solid agenda at all, simply saying it will respect the work of those who came before them. With the resignation of the original president, and the nomination of a new one, who has just appeared in the papers today in a negative light, who will not doubt the new Exco? Tell us the change, new Exco. Don’t make us, the old women, worry. Lol…Peace.

The new AWARE Executive Committee came to power through perfectly legal means and yet have been found “guilty” (by association), slandered, and condemned when they have not done a single thing.

Let’s face it those in the old committee should realise that they have failed to represent the interests of the majority of women in Singapore.

We should welcome change (to quote Hussien Obama).

From Yawning Bread’s bawling rant against the new management of AWARE and the criticism of the new Exco’s alleged non-equality, non-gay inclusive, stance:

It also illustrates the problem that perennially faces those of us of a liberal persuasion. We are nowhere as organised as the Religious Right is. In a way, it has to do with the way liberals think. We are by nature accommodating and pluralistic. . . . We have a tendency to believe that OUR moral position is unarguably stronger than the illiberals’, that if only people would open their minds, they’d see the world OUR way. . . . We forget that even if a wild animal might not have OUR moral and intellectual credentials, it can still be bloody dangerous.

quoted from “From now on, be wary of AWARE”

In other words, the rest of us have no choice but to cave in to the inherent (and unprovable) superiority of these activists? Perhaps this explains for this camp’s mysterious and inexplicable sense of entitlement?

… by another woman? lol

What fundies want to do is to impose their morality in the form of laws. It’s not just 377A, if they’re only going to be fighting the gays I couldn’t care less.

What else do they want to do? They also want to ban abortion, teach creationism as science education, and ban safe-sex education, and some of the more extreme ones even want to ban contraceptives altogether.

Recently, they have tried to ban abortion by raising it in Parliament and in the Press. The Govt has thankfully said NO. Their taking over of Aware will be used to add more pressure in future.

It’s fine if these fundie religious laws only apply to their own religion, but why should people who don’t believe in their morals be affected by it. Singapore is a secular society which means that all religions (including non-religion) are treated equally. There is no justification for them to force their religious views on everyone else by way of secular law.

Come on, Jolene you are biased. Don’t use the 733A as the bogeyman as an excuse that they have sinister agenda. Let them have a chance to speak of their mission and vision for this grouping instead of casting as some hijackers and which a former member implied.

hazelnutz wrote (#25):

All this talk about homosexuality… jus ask yourself, what if one day, your son or daughter comes back to declare to you that they’re gay… how much will you support this gay rights issue then?

Peace wrote (#29):

Oh boy, sorry old girls, I mean ,sorry old women , it it time get off your big fat ass and start working and show how you can promote the interest of the oppressed woman, especailly single women who are left in a lurch because of some husbands forgot to leave insurance proceeds to them. Instead of politicking on issues of the opposite sex , please get down to business and that is what Aware is to create awareness of the plight of many women and not ‘pei swee’ and late night ‘meeting’.

bismarker wrote (#32):

Aware has been a big bloated cow in the past, but at least it was bloated with some decent people, not those that say gay rights is a mental illness and promoting gay rights will lead to “potentially banning religious texts”, which really sounds like people who haven read much.

Hal wrote (#43):

Old bunch kicked out, thus whined and spread rumours about the new bunch as Christian anti-gay fundamentals, using the gay community as willing foot soldiers

With reference to the above quotes, methinks a certain division of the “foot soldiers” would be surprised to discover just what the other division thinks of them:

Unlike gay men, whose promiscuous instinct is inherent to their gender, women are born to emotionally attach themselves to just about everything, even their goddamn favourite pink thong. Gay men may violently disagree with me at this point, but have you ever heard of women-only spas with private pitch-black dark rooms for romping with strangers? Or some 5-day-Bangkok-getaway trip with 50 other horny lesbians in some secluded villa? I’m not saying that all gay men are promiscuous, but in this capitalistic world we live in, if there is no demand, there will not be any supply. And no, there isn’t any supply for eat-all-you-can pussy buffets.

quoted from “What Lesbian Player?” in Fridae.com

Do these “foot soldiers” know what their commanders really think of them?

Hell knows no fury like a woman scorned…hahah

Well you do know what they say about being a Muslim, ‘Once a Muslim, Always a Muslim’.

In his book, he did described that his father was “raised a Muslim”, which means he is also a Muslim. His middle name is Hussein for that matter.

Perhaps because of his political ambition, he later described himself as having ‘evolved into Christianity’. Check out his ‘Audicity’ book.

Something for you to think about.

You’re correct to ask ‘so what’ if he is Muslim.
I ask the same here, “so what if the new exco is heavily Christianised?”

Well, they have indeed won with the majorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrity exco members.

“They took so long to react reasonably ie calling EGM. Maybe by now lots more new members.”

How to react ?? Can those who disagree protest in the public and call for re-election. Imagine out of the blue a lot of new faces in the new exco.

But even then, if he is a Muslim, so what?

Gd stuff. But yr assumption that old guard got the votes could be wrong.

They took so long to react reasonably ie calling EGM. Maybe by now lots more new members.

Remember if Christians to be believed, Jesus fed the “multitudes” with just five loaves of bread and two fishes, annoying the bakers, fishermen and fish mongers. Big mistake!.

So maybe new members may still win.

Vox populi!

I admit that I do sort of subscribe to the “omg, Christian fundamentalists taking over!” feeling but I’m all for giving them a chance… For all we know they will not allow their beliefs to cloud their future policies and actions? But my gut feeling also tells me that this is not the case… And I believe that might be the concern of those who are in favour of liberal/civil rights of the individual.

Peace:
Gay rights are important because there are also lesbians, and I think all that some AWARE members are espousing are the basic rights to love whoever they want without discrimination? This is not merely a “female” right, it’s a human right.

Also, I find your comments about “heshe” pretty offensive. Why do you hate people for being people, just because they are different? Just because you are part of the majority and have the option of excluding and hating doesn’t mean you should.