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		<title>By: computers columbus ohio</title>
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		<dc:creator>computers columbus ohio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 15:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I enjoyed your neat post.</description>
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		<title>By: Oracle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 00:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you talk to God, its called prayer...but If God tallks to you, its schizophrenia!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you talk to God, its called prayer&#8230;but If God tallks to you, its schizophrenia!</p>
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		<title>By: smallvice585</title>
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		<dc:creator>smallvice585</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 18:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Redneck Watch,

COOS is going to turn the &lt;i&gt;Society for the Visually Handicapped&lt;/i&gt; to the &lt;i&gt;Society for the Biblically Handicapped&lt;/i&gt;. LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Redneck Watch,</p>
<p>COOS is going to turn the <i>Society for the Visually Handicapped</i> to the <i>Society for the Biblically Handicapped</i>. LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: HT</title>
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		<dc:creator>HT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 06:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>65) JL on May 3rd, 2009 2.18 am

Its very traumatic for me, actually this FM thing. Now when i am driving, I have to listen to CDs rather thant the radio coz i don&#039;t dare to turn on the FM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>65) JL on May 3rd, 2009 2.18 am</p>
<p>Its very traumatic for me, actually this FM thing. Now when i am driving, I have to listen to CDs rather thant the radio coz i don&#8217;t dare to turn on the FM.</p>
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		<title>By: Redneck Watch</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/aware-eogm-the-early-crowd/comment-page-2/#comment-69370</link>
		<dc:creator>Redneck Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 18:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next stop for Thio Su Mien and Pastor Hong in Operation COOS: 

1) Society for the Visually Handicapped.
2) Nature Society Singapore
3) Cat Welfare Society
4) National Kidney Foundation
5) SPCA. 

I personally think they&#039;&#039;ll go after the Nature Society. Apparently, the tree huggers there have been teaching kids all the wrong things about the birds and the bees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next stop for Thio Su Mien and Pastor Hong in Operation COOS: </p>
<p>1) Society for the Visually Handicapped.<br />
2) Nature Society Singapore<br />
3) Cat Welfare Society<br />
4) National Kidney Foundation<br />
5) SPCA. </p>
<p>I personally think they&#8221;ll go after the Nature Society. Apparently, the tree huggers there have been teaching kids all the wrong things about the birds and the bees.</p>
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		<title>By: JL</title>
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		<dc:creator>JL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 18:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now that the saga is closed in some way, i am able to take a more comic relief look at thio self coined feminist mentor term, also fondly known as FM, by all.

mention the abbrevated FM in any site or blog relating  AWARE, and none will be left clueless.

we all know what FM means and the power of those 2 letters  :)

a very cartoon dowager now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now that the saga is closed in some way, i am able to take a more comic relief look at thio self coined feminist mentor term, also fondly known as FM, by all.</p>
<p>mention the abbrevated FM in any site or blog relating  AWARE, and none will be left clueless.</p>
<p>we all know what FM means and the power of those 2 letters  :)</p>
<p>a very cartoon dowager now</p>
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		<title>By: observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 18:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it seems that quite a fair bit of Indians and minority races are at EGM, looks kind of over represented and surely doesn&#039;t look very representative of the make up of women in Singapore, sorry, cannot accept this group to represent all women in Singapore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it seems that quite a fair bit of Indians and minority races are at EGM, looks kind of over represented and surely doesn&#8217;t look very representative of the make up of women in Singapore, sorry, cannot accept this group to represent all women in Singapore.</p>
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		<title>By: mice is nice</title>
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		<dc:creator>mice is nice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 18:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josie &amp; friends lost.

a good lesson not to anyhow point fingers &amp; stoke fear. i really wonder how they will explain to their children this whole hoohaa. or will their next generation be gearing up for the next....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josie &amp; friends lost.</p>
<p>a good lesson not to anyhow point fingers &amp; stoke fear. i really wonder how they will explain to their children this whole hoohaa. or will their next generation be gearing up for the next&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Male Supporters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Male Supporters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 18:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a wonderful feeling to see Josie and gang got kick out. I was asked to stay cool by my friend but I told him that this group of people seating up there are just trying to be professional... we just nee to pressure them since I would prefer to let my ladies friends voiced their thoughts. Through enough when that &#039;stupid&#039; lady shouted for us to Shut Up and sit down! That didn&#039;t take long.

Had a bad experience at the end when this old lady standing beside me asked me to keep quiet when Josie and gang came out to tell us (like we don&#039;t know) they are stepping down. I kept quiet thinking she wanted to hear Josie and when I start cheering she scolded me for not respecting other human being and that Josie is a human being and have their opinion too. Which of course got my friends stepping in and telling her that we too have our own opinion and we too have the rights too say out our opinion. Things might get ugly if not for &quot;We Are Aware&quot; team who was fast to step in and pull us away and told us that she is the New Guard supporter.

Of course after knowing that, we simply ignore her and she left before trying so hard to piss me off further with her comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a wonderful feeling to see Josie and gang got kick out. I was asked to stay cool by my friend but I told him that this group of people seating up there are just trying to be professional&#8230; we just nee to pressure them since I would prefer to let my ladies friends voiced their thoughts. Through enough when that &#8216;stupid&#8217; lady shouted for us to Shut Up and sit down! That didn&#8217;t take long.</p>
<p>Had a bad experience at the end when this old lady standing beside me asked me to keep quiet when Josie and gang came out to tell us (like we don&#8217;t know) they are stepping down. I kept quiet thinking she wanted to hear Josie and when I start cheering she scolded me for not respecting other human being and that Josie is a human being and have their opinion too. Which of course got my friends stepping in and telling her that we too have our own opinion and we too have the rights too say out our opinion. Things might get ugly if not for &#8220;We Are Aware&#8221; team who was fast to step in and pull us away and told us that she is the New Guard supporter.</p>
<p>Of course after knowing that, we simply ignore her and she left before trying so hard to piss me off further with her comments.</p>
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		<title>By: HT</title>
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		<dc:creator>HT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 16:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever you may think of either camp, I think its fair to say that Josie and her team were certainly outclassed today. The organisation, planning and leadership skills of the old guard certainly showed as they took control of the meeting. The preparation (knowledge of facts and preparation of tough questions which the Exco had trouble answering) were obvious and it was painfully clear that Maureen, Jenica and Sally all had difficulties with diction and public speaking. The crowd was already antagonistic and they just couldn&#039;t connect. In the end it was no contest. The final whistle finally came after many hours and Josie and her team, having lost the no confidence vote, finally had to resign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever you may think of either camp, I think its fair to say that Josie and her team were certainly outclassed today. The organisation, planning and leadership skills of the old guard certainly showed as they took control of the meeting. The preparation (knowledge of facts and preparation of tough questions which the Exco had trouble answering) were obvious and it was painfully clear that Maureen, Jenica and Sally all had difficulties with diction and public speaking. The crowd was already antagonistic and they just couldn&#8217;t connect. In the end it was no contest. The final whistle finally came after many hours and Josie and her team, having lost the no confidence vote, finally had to resign.</p>
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		<title>By: HT</title>
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		<dc:creator>HT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 16:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The male associate members such as myself couldn&#039;t vote but it was a great show - the 80 year old guy next to me told me he had forgone his favourite documentary that afternoon, but it was well worth it and he was shouting and screaming at Josie &amp; Co like an 18 year old!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The male associate members such as myself couldn&#8217;t vote but it was a great show &#8211; the 80 year old guy next to me told me he had forgone his favourite documentary that afternoon, but it was well worth it and he was shouting and screaming at Josie &amp; Co like an 18 year old!</p>
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		<title>By: HT</title>
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		<dc:creator>HT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 16:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I felt sorry for Josie. She at least had some poise and dignity but the others simply failed to make the cut as far as public speaking goes. Maureen continued to interrupt Josie and was finally cornered into admitting that they had spent about $90,000 in April when the constitution only allows the exco to spend a maximum of $20,000 a month. And that silly Sally, shouted at a member to &quot;Shut up and sit down!&quot; which drove the already antagonistic crowd mad forcing first Josie to apologise and finally Sally had to apologise through gritted teeth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I felt sorry for Josie. She at least had some poise and dignity but the others simply failed to make the cut as far as public speaking goes. Maureen continued to interrupt Josie and was finally cornered into admitting that they had spent about $90,000 in April when the constitution only allows the exco to spend a maximum of $20,000 a month. And that silly Sally, shouted at a member to &#8220;Shut up and sit down!&#8221; which drove the already antagonistic crowd mad forcing first Josie to apologise and finally Sally had to apologise through gritted teeth.</p>
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		<title>By: HT</title>
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		<dc:creator>HT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 16:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>55) mirax on May 2nd, 2009 10.56 pm 

Yes, it was fantastic wasn&#039;t it? The Good Guys Won. 

Despite all the disinformation and distortions that have been pouring out these few days (I still find the &quot; concerned parents - aghast that homosexuality still exists&quot; line the funniest - after two years, suddenly there are so many instant concerned parents Haha!)

TSM was shouted down each time she tried to speak and she is such a bad public speaker. She tried to start her first speech by listing her achievements such as first female dean of law school etc but that just inflamed the crowd and she then started shouting &quot;respect your elders&quot; ...hoo boy, what a riot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>55) mirax on May 2nd, 2009 10.56 pm </p>
<p>Yes, it was fantastic wasn&#8217;t it? The Good Guys Won. </p>
<p>Despite all the disinformation and distortions that have been pouring out these few days (I still find the &#8221; concerned parents &#8211; aghast that homosexuality still exists&#8221; line the funniest &#8211; after two years, suddenly there are so many instant concerned parents Haha!)</p>
<p>TSM was shouted down each time she tried to speak and she is such a bad public speaker. She tried to start her first speech by listing her achievements such as first female dean of law school etc but that just inflamed the crowd and she then started shouting &#8220;respect your elders&#8221; &#8230;hoo boy, what a riot.</p>
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		<title>By: mirax</title>
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		<dc:creator>mirax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 15:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All these internet warriors for the cause of WITCHINGHUNTING-GAYS-AND-LIBERALS, where were you when your Feminist ThioMentor needed you today? When Josie and gang showed up their incompetence again and again today? Some action from the conference floor would have helped yes? But that would mean standing by your ideals in public right and you are just a big big bunch of bullies in the end- you pick what you perceive to be vulnerable targets. 


I am glad that there was ROBUST defence of the marginalised- including the gays in our families, workplaces- and none in AWARE copped out of this for fear of negative publicity or to win some imaginary public &#039;acceptance&#039;. I felt damn proud as a heterosexual woman.  I tell you that even Josie and gang could not but make repaeted statements - through gritted teeth maybe-that they do not support discrimination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All these internet warriors for the cause of WITCHINGHUNTING-GAYS-AND-LIBERALS, where were you when your Feminist ThioMentor needed you today? When Josie and gang showed up their incompetence again and again today? Some action from the conference floor would have helped yes? But that would mean standing by your ideals in public right and you are just a big big bunch of bullies in the end- you pick what you perceive to be vulnerable targets. </p>
<p>I am glad that there was ROBUST defence of the marginalised- including the gays in our families, workplaces- and none in AWARE copped out of this for fear of negative publicity or to win some imaginary public &#8216;acceptance&#8217;. I felt damn proud as a heterosexual woman.  I tell you that even Josie and gang could not but make repaeted statements &#8211; through gritted teeth maybe-that they do not support discrimination.</p>
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		<title>By: mirax</title>
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		<dc:creator>mirax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 14:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi I just got back from the AWARE EGM and it was a marvellous event to be a part of. 

Brief summary : Got there at about 12.30pm but the queue was so long that it took me 1.5 hours to get into the conference hall. the meeting started late becasue so many people were waiting outside to be registered. There was strict security and bag checks before entry was allowed. 

I think well over 2000 members and at least 500 associate members- men and foreigners- turned up. Young and old, families, people of all races and religions, very calm during the wait to get in, lots of smiles and new friends made. 

The registration and ther organisational legwork was sourced out to Ape communications, the operation of the election procedures to Boardroom (some commercial outfit that does this) and the other operations to one more firm. Very corporate like! BUt nothing compared to the ORIGINAL AWARE volunteer mobilisation which was impressive. The jokers who did the counting took over 3 hours to send in the result. Btw when the members tried to ask how much it all cost, we did not get an answer until hours later - the exco was that deceitful and evasive- but listen, here was the sum : $90 000!!! Earlier in the queue I was talking to an AWARE helpline volunteer whohad been there the nite Josie and gang changed the locks and set up cctv (did you know about that?). She was complaining about how the phoneline counsellors did not even have proper headsets - to do their job better- and I think she may have passed out on hearing about the sum spent. AWARE should personally hold Josier and gang accountable because AWARE &#039;s constitutional rules forbid expenditure aboue $20 000 a month. This formally mentioned and noted during the meeting.

Ok the meeting was totally iimpassioned and pretty raucous - i have lost my  voice from cheering so much!- esp when the FM spoke. FANTASTIC crowd! Speaker after speaker, muslim, chriostian, straight, gay, old and young lined up to condemn the exco. 

We were pretty roused but we did not start out that way. Josie and gang tried to subvert and control the entire EGM by not letting us speak. They switched off the mikes, threatened people with the security guards and it was a battle to raise basic points of order. Sally Ang at one point early on screamed : SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP! The whole hall erupted . we were often on out feet, waving our hands and applauding the speakers from the floor - let us just say 97% of them slammed the Josie &amp; jokers repeatedly and everyone of these 97% was articulate, impassioned and outclassed the 3 % who spoke for the other side by a zillion miles. You had to be there to see it! The FM was heckled and booed and basically the crowd indicated to her to to F*** Off. I immensely enjoyed that part of the proceedings, she totally deserved it.

Well were there till way past 9, got the job done of getting rid of the new rubbish and making history of some sort for civic organisations. There was a huge feeling of camaraderie and community - that can only be good for Singapore. I did not even have a bite to eat until 10 pm but the feeling of standing up to be counted for something so basic as diversity and plurality was so good I tell you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi I just got back from the AWARE EGM and it was a marvellous event to be a part of. </p>
<p>Brief summary : Got there at about 12.30pm but the queue was so long that it took me 1.5 hours to get into the conference hall. the meeting started late becasue so many people were waiting outside to be registered. There was strict security and bag checks before entry was allowed. </p>
<p>I think well over 2000 members and at least 500 associate members- men and foreigners- turned up. Young and old, families, people of all races and religions, very calm during the wait to get in, lots of smiles and new friends made. </p>
<p>The registration and ther organisational legwork was sourced out to Ape communications, the operation of the election procedures to Boardroom (some commercial outfit that does this) and the other operations to one more firm. Very corporate like! BUt nothing compared to the ORIGINAL AWARE volunteer mobilisation which was impressive. The jokers who did the counting took over 3 hours to send in the result. Btw when the members tried to ask how much it all cost, we did not get an answer until hours later &#8211; the exco was that deceitful and evasive- but listen, here was the sum : $90 000!!! Earlier in the queue I was talking to an AWARE helpline volunteer whohad been there the nite Josie and gang changed the locks and set up cctv (did you know about that?). She was complaining about how the phoneline counsellors did not even have proper headsets &#8211; to do their job better- and I think she may have passed out on hearing about the sum spent. AWARE should personally hold Josier and gang accountable because AWARE &#8216;s constitutional rules forbid expenditure aboue $20 000 a month. This formally mentioned and noted during the meeting.</p>
<p>Ok the meeting was totally iimpassioned and pretty raucous &#8211; i have lost my  voice from cheering so much!- esp when the FM spoke. FANTASTIC crowd! Speaker after speaker, muslim, chriostian, straight, gay, old and young lined up to condemn the exco. </p>
<p>We were pretty roused but we did not start out that way. Josie and gang tried to subvert and control the entire EGM by not letting us speak. They switched off the mikes, threatened people with the security guards and it was a battle to raise basic points of order. Sally Ang at one point early on screamed : SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP! The whole hall erupted . we were often on out feet, waving our hands and applauding the speakers from the floor &#8211; let us just say 97% of them slammed the Josie &amp; jokers repeatedly and everyone of these 97% was articulate, impassioned and outclassed the 3 % who spoke for the other side by a zillion miles. You had to be there to see it! The FM was heckled and booed and basically the crowd indicated to her to to F*** Off. I immensely enjoyed that part of the proceedings, she totally deserved it.</p>
<p>Well were there till way past 9, got the job done of getting rid of the new rubbish and making history of some sort for civic organisations. There was a huge feeling of camaraderie and community &#8211; that can only be good for Singapore. I did not even have a bite to eat until 10 pm but the feeling of standing up to be counted for something so basic as diversity and plurality was so good I tell you.</p>
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		<title>By: Insider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 13:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Results from a fiend in the meeting there since 11 am this morning and still going strong!

1414-old vs 700-new;
1412 -old vs 712-new;
1419-old vs 700-new. 

All 3 motions won by old.

Now still bickering. Old vs new
New refuse to step down in massive defeat. Like all Evangelistic Christians, thick skin or else how to evangelise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Results from a fiend in the meeting there since 11 am this morning and still going strong!</p>
<p>1414-old vs 700-new;<br />
1412 -old vs 712-new;<br />
1419-old vs 700-new. </p>
<p>All 3 motions won by old.</p>
<p>Now still bickering. Old vs new<br />
New refuse to step down in massive defeat. Like all Evangelistic Christians, thick skin or else how to evangelise.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 11:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like Josie Lau to help me understand something. She alleged they fired office manager Schutz Lee for insubordination (not proven but that&#039;s the new committee&#039;s explanation) Is that the same thing which Josie Lau did when she disregarded and disobeyed DBS to take up the AWARE President post? 

If so that is yet another case of &quot;double standards&quot; practised by her and the new Exco.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like Josie Lau to help me understand something. She alleged they fired office manager Schutz Lee for insubordination (not proven but that&#8217;s the new committee&#8217;s explanation) Is that the same thing which Josie Lau did when she disregarded and disobeyed DBS to take up the AWARE President post? </p>
<p>If so that is yet another case of &#8220;double standards&#8221; practised by her and the new Exco.</p>
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		<title>By: Enigmatic</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/aware-eogm-the-early-crowd/comment-page-2/#comment-69167</link>
		<dc:creator>Enigmatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 11:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TSM   indiscriminately spewed  utterance  has made  all her pathways  slippery - 
thats why  she needs 2  standby  guards  to support  her  as she  has to walk with both  feet   bind  - or  more  likely  -   silently ,   tip  toeing  about    for   not  wanting   to  further  arouse  other .  &#039;

Her  matriarchal  nature   has had  her self  -elevated  herself  to that of  an  empress  dowager ..........

Long   live   this   dowager  for  having  this  privilege  - she  rightfully  deserved  it   and  even  more  so  for   it   to  be  perpetuated -  only  reserve  for  the royalty    hor......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TSM   indiscriminately spewed  utterance  has made  all her pathways  slippery &#8211;<br />
thats why  she needs 2  standby  guards  to support  her  as she  has to walk with both  feet   bind  &#8211; or  more  likely  &#8211;   silently ,   tip  toeing  about    for   not  wanting   to  further  arouse  other .  &#8216;</p>
<p>Her  matriarchal  nature   has had  her self  -elevated  herself  to that of  an  empress  dowager &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Long   live   this   dowager  for  having  this  privilege  &#8211; she  rightfully  deserved  it   and  even  more  so  for   it   to  be  perpetuated &#8211;  only  reserve  for  the royalty    hor&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sllim</title>
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		<dc:creator>sllim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 11:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curious #45,

I can see why you equate sex education with “selling porn and drugs and glue for sniffing in schools”. After all you equated the Satan-talking-homophobe “Dr” Frank Joseph to a scholarly source.

“Would you like your child&#039;s tapestry be soiled by some perverts who leave their alternative lifestyle marks on it like &quot;Oh, gay anal sex is healthy&quot; and &quot;same sex marriage is normal&quot; even though they both violate Singapore laws?”

The more you go on, the more I’m worried my child’s “tapestry” will be “soiled” by bigots. They can come in such righteous and seemingly reasonable guises, by quoting statistics, for example.

P.S. There’s evidence that we don’t come into the world Tabula Rasa (blank slate). Proper research was done by Steven Pinker (don’t be scared of “pink”)

P.S.S He doesn’t go around calling himself doctor lest nobody takes him seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curious #45,</p>
<p>I can see why you equate sex education with “selling porn and drugs and glue for sniffing in schools”. After all you equated the Satan-talking-homophobe “Dr” Frank Joseph to a scholarly source.</p>
<p>“Would you like your child&#8217;s tapestry be soiled by some perverts who leave their alternative lifestyle marks on it like &#8220;Oh, gay anal sex is healthy&#8221; and &#8220;same sex marriage is normal&#8221; even though they both violate Singapore laws?”</p>
<p>The more you go on, the more I’m worried my child’s “tapestry” will be “soiled” by bigots. They can come in such righteous and seemingly reasonable guises, by quoting statistics, for example.</p>
<p>P.S. There’s evidence that we don’t come into the world Tabula Rasa (blank slate). Proper research was done by Steven Pinker (don’t be scared of “pink”)</p>
<p>P.S.S He doesn’t go around calling himself doctor lest nobody takes him seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Curious</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/aware-eogm-the-early-crowd/comment-page-1/#comment-69141</link>
		<dc:creator>Curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 10:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>38) sllim on May 2nd, 2009 3.43 pm

1&quot;The first group took your position and argued that condoms encouraged promiscuity. 

Selling porn and drugs and glue for sniffing in schools should also not be allowed as the temptation is too great to resist.

2&quot;Somebody from the second group said: If your neighbours built a pool and you think your children are tempted to take a dip. Is building a tall fence enough? Isn’t it more prudent to teach them how to swim?&quot;

I can agree with this argument when it comes to saving a child&#039;s life in the water. 

But lest we forget a child&#039;s life is like a clean TAPESTRY in which everyone he/she meets leaves a mark. 

Would you like your child&#039;s tapestry be soiled by some perverts who leave their alternative lifestyle marks on it like &quot;Oh, gay anal sex is healthy&quot; and &quot;same sex marriage is normal&quot; even though they both violate Singapore laws?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>38) sllim on May 2nd, 2009 3.43 pm</p>
<p>1&#8243;The first group took your position and argued that condoms encouraged promiscuity. </p>
<p>Selling porn and drugs and glue for sniffing in schools should also not be allowed as the temptation is too great to resist.</p>
<p>2&#8243;Somebody from the second group said: If your neighbours built a pool and you think your children are tempted to take a dip. Is building a tall fence enough? Isn’t it more prudent to teach them how to swim?&#8221;</p>
<p>I can agree with this argument when it comes to saving a child&#8217;s life in the water. </p>
<p>But lest we forget a child&#8217;s life is like a clean TAPESTRY in which everyone he/she meets leaves a mark. </p>
<p>Would you like your child&#8217;s tapestry be soiled by some perverts who leave their alternative lifestyle marks on it like &#8220;Oh, gay anal sex is healthy&#8221; and &#8220;same sex marriage is normal&#8221; even though they both violate Singapore laws?</p>
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