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		<title>By: mice is nice</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/changes-to-spores-political-system-afoot/comment-page-3/#comment-78682</link>
		<dc:creator>mice is nice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 14:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>S&#039;pore so small, dun need so many MPs. must be more efficient, unless there are free loaders around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>S&#8217;pore so small, dun need so many MPs. must be more efficient, unless there are free loaders around.</p>
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		<title>By: 131?</title>
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		<dc:creator>131?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi 130)KopitiamApek,

the problem with the opposition is that they can&#039;t even form a 80+ team possessing sufficient quality to compete with the gahmen.

as i have said, the grc favours large organised teams....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi 130)KopitiamApek,</p>
<p>the problem with the opposition is that they can&#8217;t even form a 80+ team possessing sufficient quality to compete with the gahmen.</p>
<p>as i have said, the grc favours large organised teams&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: KopitiamApek</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/changes-to-spores-political-system-afoot/comment-page-3/#comment-78411</link>
		<dc:creator>KopitiamApek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>129) BLUE-man 
///Do you think that the value of the Opposition is only has good as their quality not quantity?///

Quality (or the lack of it) can be cleverly concealed when one has quantity, 
like a weak rower in a dragon boat team, spectators of the race cannot tell.
like amongst the 80+ in gahmen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>129) BLUE-man<br />
///Do you think that the value of the Opposition is only has good as their quality not quantity?///</p>
<p>Quality (or the lack of it) can be cleverly concealed when one has quantity,<br />
like a weak rower in a dragon boat team, spectators of the race cannot tell.<br />
like amongst the 80+ in gahmen</p>
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		<title>By: BLUE-man</title>
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		<dc:creator>BLUE-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think that the value of the Opposition is only has good as their quality not quantity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think that the value of the Opposition is only has good as their quality not quantity?</p>
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		<title>By: mice is nice</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/changes-to-spores-political-system-afoot/comment-page-3/#comment-78347</link>
		<dc:creator>mice is nice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KopitiamApek,

dun so personal lah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KopitiamApek,</p>
<p>dun so personal lah.</p>
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		<title>By: KopitiamApek</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/changes-to-spores-political-system-afoot/comment-page-3/#comment-78336</link>
		<dc:creator>KopitiamApek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>125) mice is nice 

bad example? you could be right. some time I goes off track, caffiene deficiency syndrome.

Newton&#039;s 72th law states &quot;never but lobsters fom stall 72&quot;
off track again la</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>125) mice is nice </p>
<p>bad example? you could be right. some time I goes off track, caffiene deficiency syndrome.</p>
<p>Newton&#8217;s 72th law states &#8220;never but lobsters fom stall 72&#8243;<br />
off track again la</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Sellers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Sellers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 10:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#113 in the shadow 

I take it you are not somebody just in the shadow but also in the know.

If what you say is true, then perhaps the PAP has finally woken up to the fact that their long-standing policy of not allowing the opposition to raise its head is detrimental, if not actually dangerous for the country&#039;s future. 

If the PAP is ever weakened in a freak election, it is in the country&#039;s best interests to have credible alternatives that can take over. I am sure the last thing the PAP would want is to see their work of the past 50 years go down the drain. 

If the ruling party has now realized nothing grows under a banyan tree, that is all to the good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#113 in the shadow </p>
<p>I take it you are not somebody just in the shadow but also in the know.</p>
<p>If what you say is true, then perhaps the PAP has finally woken up to the fact that their long-standing policy of not allowing the opposition to raise its head is detrimental, if not actually dangerous for the country&#8217;s future. </p>
<p>If the PAP is ever weakened in a freak election, it is in the country&#8217;s best interests to have credible alternatives that can take over. I am sure the last thing the PAP would want is to see their work of the past 50 years go down the drain. </p>
<p>If the ruling party has now realized nothing grows under a banyan tree, that is all to the good.</p>
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		<title>By: mice is nice</title>
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		<dc:creator>mice is nice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 18:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi KopitiamApek,

the analogy about the guard &amp; prisoner over a cig a bad example ler. Cig is bad for health, the relationship is very out of context loh... 

what did i do wrong? please dun lock me up for forgetting to add sugar in your coffee. 

...............................................................................................................................................

when 1 has lived a life of luxury &amp; accumulated lots of things, its very hard to let go. even i have a problem thinking what are the few things i will grab in case of fire, given 120 seconds. 

the attachment to things is not materialism, so materialism is not the issue. the issue (for some) is learning how to let go. a slightly better example in regard to this topic is a parent-child relationship, learning to let go. if the parent control a child to strict too long, it is not good for the child.

so it is with power, wield too much too long, it will be counterproductive. Newton&#039;s law, what goes up will come down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi KopitiamApek,</p>
<p>the analogy about the guard &amp; prisoner over a cig a bad example ler. Cig is bad for health, the relationship is very out of context loh&#8230; </p>
<p>what did i do wrong? please dun lock me up for forgetting to add sugar in your coffee. </p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>when 1 has lived a life of luxury &amp; accumulated lots of things, its very hard to let go. even i have a problem thinking what are the few things i will grab in case of fire, given 120 seconds. </p>
<p>the attachment to things is not materialism, so materialism is not the issue. the issue (for some) is learning how to let go. a slightly better example in regard to this topic is a parent-child relationship, learning to let go. if the parent control a child to strict too long, it is not good for the child.</p>
<p>so it is with power, wield too much too long, it will be counterproductive. Newton&#8217;s law, what goes up will come down.</p>
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		<title>By: KopitiamApek</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/changes-to-spores-political-system-afoot/comment-page-3/#comment-78097</link>
		<dc:creator>KopitiamApek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 05:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>122) mice is nice 

///normal for humans to grow very attached to their belongings///

material attachment is the source of sorrow in life
not that we must be zero materialistic, that is not being realistic,
but balance is needed

eg
got a nice new car
too attached
worry it gets scratched, 
parked a safe spot, 
keep looking out window to check, 
slave every weekend to handwash it, because machine wash will also scratch it,

the joy of ownership diminished 
irrational paranoid behaviour arising from inabilty to detach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>122) mice is nice </p>
<p>///normal for humans to grow very attached to their belongings///</p>
<p>material attachment is the source of sorrow in life<br />
not that we must be zero materialistic, that is not being realistic,<br />
but balance is needed</p>
<p>eg<br />
got a nice new car<br />
too attached<br />
worry it gets scratched,<br />
parked a safe spot,<br />
keep looking out window to check,<br />
slave every weekend to handwash it, because machine wash will also scratch it,</p>
<p>the joy of ownership diminished<br />
irrational paranoid behaviour arising from inabilty to detach.</p>
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		<title>By: KopitiamApek</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/changes-to-spores-political-system-afoot/comment-page-3/#comment-78096</link>
		<dc:creator>KopitiamApek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 05:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>122) mice is nice 
///depends on who the question is put to, the 1 with power or the 1 without. ///

good analysis,
also depend on how power is defined
it can be a personal perspective
the power to be yourself 
the power to be positive
the power to rid oneself of self limiting beliefs
the power of duracell
(ignore last one : )  )

one trainer i recently met used this example

balance of power
prisoner vs jail guard
prisoner power 0% guard power 100% (common perception)

prisoner needs a smoke, guard have the cig
can prisoner gets it? no chance  (common perception)

prisioner call up the  guard and said
&quot;if you do not give me a cig now, I will bang my head on the cell wall until it bleeds, and when your chief guard comes to investigate, I will say you hit me&quot;

guard have 5 more minutes before off duty, he thinks, aiya gave him the cig, I go home happy, no cig, I kena stay back write bloody report&quot;

prisoner gets cig

power shifted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>122) mice is nice<br />
///depends on who the question is put to, the 1 with power or the 1 without. ///</p>
<p>good analysis,<br />
also depend on how power is defined<br />
it can be a personal perspective<br />
the power to be yourself<br />
the power to be positive<br />
the power to rid oneself of self limiting beliefs<br />
the power of duracell<br />
(ignore last one : )  )</p>
<p>one trainer i recently met used this example</p>
<p>balance of power<br />
prisoner vs jail guard<br />
prisoner power 0% guard power 100% (common perception)</p>
<p>prisoner needs a smoke, guard have the cig<br />
can prisoner gets it? no chance  (common perception)</p>
<p>prisioner call up the  guard and said<br />
&#8220;if you do not give me a cig now, I will bang my head on the cell wall until it bleeds, and when your chief guard comes to investigate, I will say you hit me&#8221;</p>
<p>guard have 5 more minutes before off duty, he thinks, aiya gave him the cig, I go home happy, no cig, I kena stay back write bloody report&#8221;</p>
<p>prisoner gets cig</p>
<p>power shifted.</p>
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		<title>By: mice is nice</title>
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		<dc:creator>mice is nice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 17:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi KopitiamApek,

depends on who the question is put to, the 1 with power or the 1 without. 

its only normal for humans to grow very attached to their belongings, especially so for those (with alot more &amp;) who cannot bear to leave them!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi KopitiamApek,</p>
<p>depends on who the question is put to, the 1 with power or the 1 without. </p>
<p>its only normal for humans to grow very attached to their belongings, especially so for those (with alot more &amp;) who cannot bear to leave them!!</p>
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		<title>By: KopitiamApek</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/changes-to-spores-political-system-afoot/comment-page-3/#comment-77715</link>
		<dc:creator>KopitiamApek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 12:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#120

what is your view?
miraculously good or horrendously bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#120</p>
<p>what is your view?<br />
miraculously good or horrendously bad.</p>
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		<title>By: To Apek</title>
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		<dc:creator>To Apek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 11:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Then again, consolidated power in one place is always dangerous, it can do miraculously good or horrendously bad.&quot;

With such kopitiam wisdom on human nature, which do you think is most likely - miraculously good or horrendously bad. Paiseh, your statement seems oxy-moronic, from &quot;dangerous&quot; to &quot;miraculously good&quot; and then back to &quot;or horrendously bad&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Then again, consolidated power in one place is always dangerous, it can do miraculously good or horrendously bad.&#8221;</p>
<p>With such kopitiam wisdom on human nature, which do you think is most likely &#8211; miraculously good or horrendously bad. Paiseh, your statement seems oxy-moronic, from &#8220;dangerous&#8221; to &#8220;miraculously good&#8221; and then back to &#8220;or horrendously bad&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: To Apek</title>
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		<dc:creator>To Apek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 11:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;is it not better to move incrementally like China than be like the now defunct USSR, all shattered, like humpty dumpty, never be put together again.&quot;

Depending on what time-interval you are looking at. Incrementally ? China is a good long history by itself with as you already know a tradition of chaotic changes (do revolutions sound familiar to you.) which sometime put them back to square one. You just happen to live in the current era (frame of time) where their growth curve may happen to match nicely with your own biological growth curve (just guessing only). You should stick to your kopitiam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;is it not better to move incrementally like China than be like the now defunct USSR, all shattered, like humpty dumpty, never be put together again.&#8221;</p>
<p>Depending on what time-interval you are looking at. Incrementally ? China is a good long history by itself with as you already know a tradition of chaotic changes (do revolutions sound familiar to you.) which sometime put them back to square one. You just happen to live in the current era (frame of time) where their growth curve may happen to match nicely with your own biological growth curve (just guessing only). You should stick to your kopitiam.</p>
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		<title>By: KopitiamApek</title>
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		<dc:creator>KopitiamApek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 10:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>116) Daniel 
Need to change ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>116) Daniel<br />
Need to change ?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 08:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But then how I hope those Temasek and GIC have gambled incrementally like China rather than throw one big fish into jaw of the shark. &quot;

Opps... this is no ordinary fish. It is extraordinary fish with golden scale and diamond eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But then how I hope those Temasek and GIC have gambled incrementally like China rather than throw one big fish into jaw of the shark. &#8221;</p>
<p>Opps&#8230; this is no ordinary fish. It is extraordinary fish with golden scale and diamond eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 07:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KopitiamApek,
&quot;those China Mei Mei are on my lap now
that’s why type so slow&quot;

No wonder you are so complacent. Please type faster next time or no China Mei Mei for you next time ... LOL

&quot;is it not better to move incrementally like China than be like the now defunct USSR, all shattered, like humpty dumpty, never be put together again.&quot;

But then how I hope those Temasek and GIC have gambled incrementally like China rather than throw one big fish into jaw of the shark. With those clowns throwing big clunk of state money faster than Ah Pek change underwear, Ah pek can forget about CPF money. No money = No China Mei Mei ... Sad. Very Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KopitiamApek,<br />
&#8220;those China Mei Mei are on my lap now<br />
that’s why type so slow&#8221;</p>
<p>No wonder you are so complacent. Please type faster next time or no China Mei Mei for you next time &#8230; LOL</p>
<p>&#8220;is it not better to move incrementally like China than be like the now defunct USSR, all shattered, like humpty dumpty, never be put together again.&#8221;</p>
<p>But then how I hope those Temasek and GIC have gambled incrementally like China rather than throw one big fish into jaw of the shark. With those clowns throwing big clunk of state money faster than Ah Pek change underwear, Ah pek can forget about CPF money. No money = No China Mei Mei &#8230; Sad. Very Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: KopitiamApek</title>
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		<dc:creator>KopitiamApek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 07:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>111) Daniel 

those China Mei Mei are on my lap now
that&#039;s why type so slow</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>111) Daniel </p>
<p>those China Mei Mei are on my lap now<br />
that&#8217;s why type so slow</p>
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		<title>By: KopitiamApek</title>
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		<dc:creator>KopitiamApek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 07:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#113

good governance and popular sentiments are sometimes at opposite ends of the equation.
yes, it could very well be gahmen&#039;s initiating a very first step towards building up good governance capability outside the main party.
is it not better to move incrementally like China than be like the now defunct USSR, all shattered, like humpty dumpty, never be put together again.
Then again, consolidated power in one place is always dangerous, it can do miraculously good or horrendously bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#113</p>
<p>good governance and popular sentiments are sometimes at opposite ends of the equation.<br />
yes, it could very well be gahmen&#8217;s initiating a very first step towards building up good governance capability outside the main party.<br />
is it not better to move incrementally like China than be like the now defunct USSR, all shattered, like humpty dumpty, never be put together again.<br />
Then again, consolidated power in one place is always dangerous, it can do miraculously good or horrendously bad.</p>
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		<title>By: in the shadow</title>
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		<dc:creator>in the shadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 07:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;88) Tan Kin Lian on
Dear Peter Sellers (#81)
Our views are really quite similar. I did say in my para 2

One possible reason could be that the PAP is aware about the strong ground sentiment against the current system (as mentioned by some other bloggers), so this move may be for its own continued survival and the future of Singapore.&lt;/i&gt;

I agree that changes in the political system are necessarily for survival, but I don&#039;t think &quot;strong ground sentiment&quot; plays a large role in opening up the political system.

It is always a belief that good governance, not popular sentiments, is necessary for survival. And I think the primary intention of electoral changes is to initiate a very first step towards building up good governance capability outside the main party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>88) Tan Kin Lian on<br />
Dear Peter Sellers (#81)<br />
Our views are really quite similar. I did say in my para 2</p>
<p>One possible reason could be that the PAP is aware about the strong ground sentiment against the current system (as mentioned by some other bloggers), so this move may be for its own continued survival and the future of Singapore.</i></p>
<p>I agree that changes in the political system are necessarily for survival, but I don&#8217;t think &#8220;strong ground sentiment&#8221; plays a large role in opening up the political system.</p>
<p>It is always a belief that good governance, not popular sentiments, is necessary for survival. And I think the primary intention of electoral changes is to initiate a very first step towards building up good governance capability outside the main party.</p>
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