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		<title>By: Latest learn how to sing, learn singing now. vocal training, sing better, improve your voice news - Give us better statistics on e &#124; Learn Singing Now</title>
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		<dc:creator>Latest learn how to sing, learn singing now. vocal training, sing better, improve your voice news - Give us better statistics on e &#124; Learn Singing Now</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/give-us-better-statistics-on-employment/comment-page-2/#comment-74019</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 04:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#49) David,

let&#039;s be patien and wait for the youth olyampic over and see how they fair the result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#49) David,</p>
<p>let&#8217;s be patien and wait for the youth olyampic over and see how they fair the result.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/give-us-better-statistics-on-employment/comment-page-2/#comment-74017</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 04:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gilbert,

dont give up easily! keep doing with strong faith believing this is your destiny as well as mine for i have to fight for what i believe in near future for our beloved country. if everyone is apathetic or bo chap, we will be suffering for long and giving the pap perpetual ruling for too long as well.

you make the choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gilbert,</p>
<p>dont give up easily! keep doing with strong faith believing this is your destiny as well as mine for i have to fight for what i believe in near future for our beloved country. if everyone is apathetic or bo chap, we will be suffering for long and giving the pap perpetual ruling for too long as well.</p>
<p>you make the choice.</p>
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		<title>By: To #59 Lee Hong Deng</title>
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		<dc:creator>To #59 Lee Hong Deng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 15:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I feel that this has proven there is serious problem of APATHY when many have attempted to claim or assure people there is no Apathy. I wonder is Truth so difficult to handle or is there some other motive or motivation behind?

yours truely,
the singaporeans who Does Not consider himself your usual typical singaporean - i feel like I am in a wrong country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I feel that this has proven there is serious problem of APATHY when many have attempted to claim or assure people there is no Apathy. I wonder is Truth so difficult to handle or is there some other motive or motivation behind?</p>
<p>yours truely,<br />
the singaporeans who Does Not consider himself your usual typical singaporean &#8211; i feel like I am in a wrong country.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Hong Deng</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/give-us-better-statistics-on-employment/comment-page-2/#comment-73450</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Hong Deng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 06:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes me Sick to learn that the recent Hong Lim event received a tiny turnout of around 20 and that jobless singaporeans have directly or indirectly sent a message that says they are not concerned about  Jobs. 

Is it because they have so much savings, they do not care about such issues like employment statistics, hiring of elder workers, salary and competition?
 
But then again, I am not surprised at all because we are talking about singaporean workers. 

I was unable to turn up as I was working overseas.

More good years, singaporeans. keep it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes me Sick to learn that the recent Hong Lim event received a tiny turnout of around 20 and that jobless singaporeans have directly or indirectly sent a message that says they are not concerned about  Jobs. </p>
<p>Is it because they have so much savings, they do not care about such issues like employment statistics, hiring of elder workers, salary and competition?</p>
<p>But then again, I am not surprised at all because we are talking about singaporean workers. </p>
<p>I was unable to turn up as I was working overseas.</p>
<p>More good years, singaporeans. keep it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Alistair Fook</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/give-us-better-statistics-on-employment/comment-page-2/#comment-73445</link>
		<dc:creator>Alistair Fook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 06:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does Singapore not have any form of unemployment insurance or benefit at all?

Using the California model, employees contribute to their own unemployment insurance fund to the limit of six months&#039; salary.  Costs the state nothing, except admin.

A nearly instantly implementable scheme can just allocate six months of current salary from employees&#039; CPF to be designated unemployment fund, which can be drawn on upon unemployment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does Singapore not have any form of unemployment insurance or benefit at all?</p>
<p>Using the California model, employees contribute to their own unemployment insurance fund to the limit of six months&#8217; salary.  Costs the state nothing, except admin.</p>
<p>A nearly instantly implementable scheme can just allocate six months of current salary from employees&#8217; CPF to be designated unemployment fund, which can be drawn on upon unemployment.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivar</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/give-us-better-statistics-on-employment/comment-page-2/#comment-73432</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 05:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;#56: Please support the Facebook campaign for (Un)Employment Insurance&lt;/i&gt;

For this to work, there must be enough employed policy holders so that the total premium collected exceeds the total claims to be made. This is how insurance works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>#56: Please support the Facebook campaign for (Un)Employment Insurance</i></p>
<p>For this to work, there must be enough employed policy holders so that the total premium collected exceeds the total claims to be made. This is how insurance works.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Philemon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ravi Philemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 05:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aiyoyo@54: You didn&#039;t read it properly.  It actually says &quot;No one&quot; WILL BE &quot;left behind&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aiyoyo@54: You didn&#8217;t read it properly.  It actually says &#8220;No one&#8221; WILL BE &#8220;left behind&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: vodka2health</title>
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		<dc:creator>vodka2health</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 03:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its income tax payable time again, time to depart ur bank saving for our high flying (salary) MPs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its income tax payable time again, time to depart ur bank saving for our high flying (salary) MPs</p>
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		<title>By: aiyoyo</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/give-us-better-statistics-on-employment/comment-page-2/#comment-73398</link>
		<dc:creator>aiyoyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 03:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aiyoyo

seems man on the street left behind (on benefits)?

but come tax payment, 

man on the street will be &quot;NO ONE WILL BE LEFT BEHIND&quot;?

aiyoyo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aiyoyo</p>
<p>seems man on the street left behind (on benefits)?</p>
<p>but come tax payment, </p>
<p>man on the street will be &#8220;NO ONE WILL BE LEFT BEHIND&#8221;?</p>
<p>aiyoyo</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Philemon</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/give-us-better-statistics-on-employment/comment-page-2/#comment-73389</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Philemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 02:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please support the Facebook campaign for (Un)Employment Insurance: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=64680475154</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please support the Facebook campaign for (Un)Employment Insurance: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=64680475154" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=64680475154</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Philemon</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/give-us-better-statistics-on-employment/comment-page-2/#comment-73388</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Philemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 02:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tbs@50: Please see my thoughts of how unemployment insurance may also be implemented in this crisis here: http://singaporesocialactivist.blogspot.com/2009/03/unemployment-insurance-economic.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tbs@50: Please see my thoughts of how unemployment insurance may also be implemented in this crisis here: <a href="http://singaporesocialactivist.blogspot.com/2009/03/unemployment-insurance-economic.html" rel="nofollow">http://singaporesocialactivist.blogspot.com/2009/03/unemployment-insurance-economic.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: rwkc</title>
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		<dc:creator>rwkc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 02:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no doubt about the hypocrisy of our govt. 

Govt linked companies are paying millions to their chairmen and ceos while thousands of people, including graduates, are unemployed. Why should a chairman be paid a salary of $8-10 million pa? For what contribution? Likewise, why should a ceo be paid a $20 million bonus, thousands of times more than say the average for an employee? 

By reducing such pay-outs these companies can use the savings to give jobs to the unemployed. For $10 million a company can afford to employ, at an average all-in salary of $2,000 per month, 20 people for about 20 years.

The govt is not sharing with the people. The govt is feeding its own selected group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no doubt about the hypocrisy of our govt. </p>
<p>Govt linked companies are paying millions to their chairmen and ceos while thousands of people, including graduates, are unemployed. Why should a chairman be paid a salary of $8-10 million pa? For what contribution? Likewise, why should a ceo be paid a $20 million bonus, thousands of times more than say the average for an employee? </p>
<p>By reducing such pay-outs these companies can use the savings to give jobs to the unemployed. For $10 million a company can afford to employ, at an average all-in salary of $2,000 per month, 20 people for about 20 years.</p>
<p>The govt is not sharing with the people. The govt is feeding its own selected group.</p>
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		<title>By: tbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>tbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 00:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Mr Philemon spoke at length on the need for unemployment insurance

Sounds workable, but it&#039;s too late now. It&#039;s like getting insurance only when you start to need it. No company will one to take up the case. This Insurance should start before the economic downturn.

Might be a business opportunity if it is sustainable and the government or private insurance companies do see it....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Mr Philemon spoke at length on the need for unemployment insurance</p>
<p>Sounds workable, but it&#8217;s too late now. It&#8217;s like getting insurance only when you start to need it. No company will one to take up the case. This Insurance should start before the economic downturn.</p>
<p>Might be a business opportunity if it is sustainable and the government or private insurance companies do see it&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 17:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To 47) TrueBlood Singapore

If LBW has full support from PAP to down the bridge after crossing the river,  we can expect similar attitude employed for treating Singaporeans. Whether Liu GuoDong is foreigner or local, LBW ungracious and arrogant attitude is extremely appalling.  It is hard to trust &amp; believe in our leader&#039;s words now, I am not proud of the olympic silver medal won, it doesn&#039;t belong to us anymore but to the coach. Singapore has lost  its spirit and the game through LBW despicable attitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To 47) TrueBlood Singapore</p>
<p>If LBW has full support from PAP to down the bridge after crossing the river,  we can expect similar attitude employed for treating Singaporeans. Whether Liu GuoDong is foreigner or local, LBW ungracious and arrogant attitude is extremely appalling.  It is hard to trust &amp; believe in our leader&#8217;s words now, I am not proud of the olympic silver medal won, it doesn&#8217;t belong to us anymore but to the coach. Singapore has lost  its spirit and the game through LBW despicable attitude.</p>
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		<title>By: TrueBlood Singapore</title>
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		<dc:creator>TrueBlood Singapore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 17:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Singapore&#039;s  MP can any how accused Umployed Singaporean of Choosy and they just like Singapore Fish! Keep Quiet!

But if you accused a China man like Table Tennis Coach Liu, you are Dead!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Singapore&#8217;s  MP can any how accused Umployed Singaporean of Choosy and they just like Singapore Fish! Keep Quiet!</p>
<p>But if you accused a China man like Table Tennis Coach Liu, you are Dead!</p>
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		<title>By: Gilbert Goh</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/give-us-better-statistics-on-employment/comment-page-1/#comment-73335</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilbert Goh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 16:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all the encouraging comments here - I am sure the team is blessed.

I am toying with the idea of starting a 5-day lcontinuous unch time talk on the same issue. I will also invite speakers to share on specific topics.

As it is focused and spread over 5 days i am sure that momentum will gather and more people will turn up for the series of talk. Hopefully the press will take notice.

Over to you guys...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the encouraging comments here &#8211; I am sure the team is blessed.</p>
<p>I am toying with the idea of starting a 5-day lcontinuous unch time talk on the same issue. I will also invite speakers to share on specific topics.</p>
<p>As it is focused and spread over 5 days i am sure that momentum will gather and more people will turn up for the series of talk. Hopefully the press will take notice.</p>
<p>Over to you guys&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mice is nice</title>
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		<dc:creator>mice is nice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 15:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw, the speaker used that day will not be loud enough for a large crowd. most will feel short changed if they turned up &amp; cannot hear what the speaker is saying... 

hey, a really loud speaker (pun intended) can attract more passerby...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw, the speaker used that day will not be loud enough for a large crowd. most will feel short changed if they turned up &amp; cannot hear what the speaker is saying&#8230; </p>
<p>hey, a really loud speaker (pun intended) can attract more passerby&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rurehe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rurehe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 12:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So few sing people turned up. 

I am shocked. 

I am in Indochina and I work and so I just cannot turn up. 

Will be in sing in October. 

Bet your life I will give you all all my support. 

So few turned up and so the gahmen do not take you seriously and think you are all a pack of fools. No guts. 

Must show gahmen we will fight till the end - forever and ever and ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So few sing people turned up. </p>
<p>I am shocked. </p>
<p>I am in Indochina and I work and so I just cannot turn up. </p>
<p>Will be in sing in October. </p>
<p>Bet your life I will give you all all my support. </p>
<p>So few turned up and so the gahmen do not take you seriously and think you are all a pack of fools. No guts. </p>
<p>Must show gahmen we will fight till the end &#8211; forever and ever and ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Tan Kin Lian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tan Kin Lian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 11:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was not able to speak at this event as I am now overseas. This subject is close to my heart.

 I hope that more Singaporeans will attend similar events in the future. We have to take an interest on matters that affect us personally and also on other people. We have to show our solidarity to the people who are affected by the economic crisis and are now unemployed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was not able to speak at this event as I am now overseas. This subject is close to my heart.</p>
<p> I hope that more Singaporeans will attend similar events in the future. We have to take an interest on matters that affect us personally and also on other people. We have to show our solidarity to the people who are affected by the economic crisis and are now unemployed.</p>
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