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	<title>Comments on: Josie Lau and team resign from Executive Committee</title>
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		<title>By: Speak up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Speak up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 16:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If without Josie Lau and her team, none of us will know about the program AWARE has been running...dun assume what has been done and is running is acceptable for generations to come.  For this, I applaud Ms Josie Lau and her team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If without Josie Lau and her team, none of us will know about the program AWARE has been running&#8230;dun assume what has been done and is running is acceptable for generations to come.  For this, I applaud Ms Josie Lau and her team.</p>
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		<title>By: smallvice585</title>
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		<dc:creator>smallvice585</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 13:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josie Lau is no longer the VP of Credit Cards &amp; Unsecured Loans at DBS.

I am not sure if she was demoted, portfolio changed or both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josie Lau is no longer the VP of Credit Cards &amp; Unsecured Loans at DBS.</p>
<p>I am not sure if she was demoted, portfolio changed or both.</p>
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		<title>By: LC</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/josie-lau-and-team-resigns-from-executive-committee/comment-page-2/#comment-72815</link>
		<dc:creator>LC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 13:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of you have been fooled by the media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of you have been fooled by the media.</p>
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		<title>By: jonathan</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/josie-lau-and-team-resigns-from-executive-committee/comment-page-2/#comment-72045</link>
		<dc:creator>jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 15:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is cunning and cruel to use a non-disclosed, secret training guide with statements like “anal sex can be healthy” and “homosexuality is perfectly normal” to influence innocent school children.

I am sure that the trainer know that these abnormal acts are illegal and can be jailed for many years.

Was the children told that these are against the Law ? Your are encouraging children to commit crime. You are sinful and you are not a human being.

I encourage parents with children attended the program to file the case with the police as they are teach your children that these illegal acts are normal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is cunning and cruel to use a non-disclosed, secret training guide with statements like “anal sex can be healthy” and “homosexuality is perfectly normal” to influence innocent school children.</p>
<p>I am sure that the trainer know that these abnormal acts are illegal and can be jailed for many years.</p>
<p>Was the children told that these are against the Law ? Your are encouraging children to commit crime. You are sinful and you are not a human being.</p>
<p>I encourage parents with children attended the program to file the case with the police as they are teach your children that these illegal acts are normal</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/josie-lau-and-team-resigns-from-executive-committee/comment-page-2/#comment-70634</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 18:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@79,

cut the drama SL, unless you&#039;re in &#039;that group (read: not all-inclusive)&#039; of fundies that &#039;can (read: possibly, not certainly)&#039; do more harm than good.

if you are, you have every right to be upset because it is a personal attack on you. but just so you know, 2:1 thinks you should resign from making further comments because your brand of fundamentalism isn&#039;t welcome in the secular public.

if you arn&#039;t, i suggest you read, re-read and make certain you know what is it you&#039;re reading and what is actually being said about who because you just made yourself sound really silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@79,</p>
<p>cut the drama SL, unless you&#8217;re in &#8216;that group (read: not all-inclusive)&#8217; of fundies that &#8216;can (read: possibly, not certainly)&#8217; do more harm than good.</p>
<p>if you are, you have every right to be upset because it is a personal attack on you. but just so you know, 2:1 thinks you should resign from making further comments because your brand of fundamentalism isn&#8217;t welcome in the secular public.</p>
<p>if you arn&#8217;t, i suggest you read, re-read and make certain you know what is it you&#8217;re reading and what is actually being said about who because you just made yourself sound really silly.</p>
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		<title>By: SL</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/josie-lau-and-team-resigns-from-executive-committee/comment-page-2/#comment-70548</link>
		<dc:creator>SL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 14:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>otherworld,

&quot;This action by this group of born-again fundamentalists only reinforces my (and many others) belief that organized religion can sometimes do more harm than good, when you have people like them in the ranks.&quot;

Once again people like you loves to add in &quot;born again&quot; religion to this argument. Why are you so small? Organised religion sounded like a criminal syndicate. Is the pastor the godfather? Chrisitans do more harm than good? Have you got concrete proof that born again chrisitans in ranks harmed the society in anyway except to voice out in a democratic elective manner of  bringing change and a &quot;NO&quot; to Homosexuality? Who is harmed? The Gays? 

TOC please remove comment 65. Extremely insensitive to christians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>otherworld,</p>
<p>&#8220;This action by this group of born-again fundamentalists only reinforces my (and many others) belief that organized religion can sometimes do more harm than good, when you have people like them in the ranks.&#8221;</p>
<p>Once again people like you loves to add in &#8220;born again&#8221; religion to this argument. Why are you so small? Organised religion sounded like a criminal syndicate. Is the pastor the godfather? Chrisitans do more harm than good? Have you got concrete proof that born again chrisitans in ranks harmed the society in anyway except to voice out in a democratic elective manner of  bringing change and a &#8220;NO&#8221; to Homosexuality? Who is harmed? The Gays? </p>
<p>TOC please remove comment 65. Extremely insensitive to christians.</p>
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		<title>By: LC</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/josie-lau-and-team-resigns-from-executive-committee/comment-page-2/#comment-70208</link>
		<dc:creator>LC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 14:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. From what I have gathered from the newspapers and comments made by people at the event, it looks like the newspapers have slanted the news and influenced the thinking of many.
2. The crowd on the side of &quot;the old guard&quot; were behaving like hooligans compared to the surporters of &quot;the new guard&quot;. I hoped the &quot;old guard very new com&quot; would distance themselves from this uncival behaviour, but they looked like contributants too!
3. By the way has anyone seen a copy of the &quot;AWARE Comprehensive Sexual Education: Basic Instructor Manual&quot;? All I could find was about 3 pages retrieved from a website www.Tampines Court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. From what I have gathered from the newspapers and comments made by people at the event, it looks like the newspapers have slanted the news and influenced the thinking of many.<br />
2. The crowd on the side of &#8220;the old guard&#8221; were behaving like hooligans compared to the surporters of &#8220;the new guard&#8221;. I hoped the &#8220;old guard very new com&#8221; would distance themselves from this uncival behaviour, but they looked like contributants too!<br />
3. By the way has anyone seen a copy of the &#8220;AWARE Comprehensive Sexual Education: Basic Instructor Manual&#8221;? All I could find was about 3 pages retrieved from a website <a href="http://www.Tampines" rel="nofollow">http://www.Tampines</a> Court.</p>
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		<title>By: kerondagan</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/josie-lau-and-team-resigns-from-executive-committee/comment-page-2/#comment-70094</link>
		<dc:creator>kerondagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 10:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josie and co should monitor how pets have sex too. Or even cockroaches. They are so free!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josie and co should monitor how pets have sex too. Or even cockroaches. They are so free!</p>
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		<title>By: mice is nice</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/josie-lau-and-team-resigns-from-executive-committee/comment-page-2/#comment-70080</link>
		<dc:creator>mice is nice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 10:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re post #73) eh on May 4th, 2009 2.16 am

Josie &amp; fiends should set up shop in Geylang ASAP, &amp; claim to save them with some &quot;conservative values&quot;- like how to spend alot of other people&#039;s money in a month!!

^.^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re post #73) eh on May 4th, 2009 2.16 am</p>
<p>Josie &amp; fiends should set up shop in Geylang ASAP, &amp; claim to save them with some &#8220;conservative values&#8221;- like how to spend alot of other people&#8217;s money in a month!!</p>
<p>^.^</p>
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		<title>By: smallvice585</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/josie-lau-and-team-resigns-from-executive-committee/comment-page-2/#comment-69934</link>
		<dc:creator>smallvice585</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 02:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahaha #58,

The resignation of Catherine Tan and Peggy Leong must have been kept quiet at either their request or Josie&#039;s order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahaha #58,</p>
<p>The resignation of Catherine Tan and Peggy Leong must have been kept quiet at either their request or Josie&#8217;s order.</p>
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		<title>By: Modernist</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/josie-lau-and-team-resigns-from-executive-committee/comment-page-2/#comment-69921</link>
		<dc:creator>Modernist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 01:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#71 I know its her business but scary nevertheless. Just spoke to a friend who was invited by a friend to attend a congregation at a church (no names shall be mentioned). He went with a Malay friend. Halfway through people started speaking in tongues. They got very spooked. The Malay guy actually said never in his life did he fear christians and that day he did. This is not my personal experience but that of a very close friend in my inner circle. Another very close lawyer friend who was in the firm where the minister mentor was senior partner, fainted after they did some deliverance or something to exorcise him of the demons that inhabit his body. Basically, I just find it scary. Imagine if something like this was done by a muslim group. Sure kena bad publicity one. It seems a tad out of the ordinary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#71 I know its her business but scary nevertheless. Just spoke to a friend who was invited by a friend to attend a congregation at a church (no names shall be mentioned). He went with a Malay friend. Halfway through people started speaking in tongues. They got very spooked. The Malay guy actually said never in his life did he fear christians and that day he did. This is not my personal experience but that of a very close friend in my inner circle. Another very close lawyer friend who was in the firm where the minister mentor was senior partner, fainted after they did some deliverance or something to exorcise him of the demons that inhabit his body. Basically, I just find it scary. Imagine if something like this was done by a muslim group. Sure kena bad publicity one. It seems a tad out of the ordinary.</p>
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		<title>By: eh</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/josie-lau-and-team-resigns-from-executive-committee/comment-page-2/#comment-69872</link>
		<dc:creator>eh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 18:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wahaha. i must say i&#039;m very glad this happened - shine the spotlight on extreme bigotry in religious extremists! of all groups, choose to pick on a very VOCAL group of women. i mean, come on la, if they r really so concerned abt people having sex unbiblically, then go takeover geylang, go shut down gambling dens, and vote out mamasans... but no balls right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wahaha. i must say i&#8217;m very glad this happened &#8211; shine the spotlight on extreme bigotry in religious extremists! of all groups, choose to pick on a very VOCAL group of women. i mean, come on la, if they r really so concerned abt people having sex unbiblically, then go takeover geylang, go shut down gambling dens, and vote out mamasans&#8230; but no balls right?</p>
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		<title>By: JL</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/josie-lau-and-team-resigns-from-executive-committee/comment-page-2/#comment-69870</link>
		<dc:creator>JL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 18:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#53 andrew,

we are not, but maybe he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#53 andrew,</p>
<p>we are not, but maybe he is.</p>
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		<title>By: JL</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/josie-lau-and-team-resigns-from-executive-committee/comment-page-2/#comment-69865</link>
		<dc:creator>JL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 18:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#16 modernist,

wow, that was really some news.  

honestly, what FM wants to do in her basement is her own business, can only say your lawyer that day very suay. 

but if FM thought that she can make her basement portable to reach out and teach  &#039;ignorant&#039; people like us, we will show her the five fold ministry, which we already did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16 modernist,</p>
<p>wow, that was really some news.  </p>
<p>honestly, what FM wants to do in her basement is her own business, can only say your lawyer that day very suay. </p>
<p>but if FM thought that she can make her basement portable to reach out and teach  &#8216;ignorant&#8217; people like us, we will show her the five fold ministry, which we already did.</p>
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		<title>By: eh</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/josie-lau-and-team-resigns-from-executive-committee/comment-page-2/#comment-69833</link>
		<dc:creator>eh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 16:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(59) 
get literate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(59)<br />
get literate.</p>
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		<title>By: mice is nice</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/josie-lau-and-team-resigns-from-executive-committee/comment-page-2/#comment-69796</link>
		<dc:creator>mice is nice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 15:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re post #66) socrates on May 3rd, 2009 9.09 pm

with the economic difficulty right now dun tell me everyone&#039;s brain is rusting away, its not like every day is a sunny day. lol.

focus on helping people, those who do not know how to go about helping can do with advice from seniors. dun throw in another big distraction (gay lesbain issue) to divert precious time &amp; resources. they have been sitting on the fence for that long...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re post #66) socrates on May 3rd, 2009 9.09 pm</p>
<p>with the economic difficulty right now dun tell me everyone&#8217;s brain is rusting away, its not like every day is a sunny day. lol.</p>
<p>focus on helping people, those who do not know how to go about helping can do with advice from seniors. dun throw in another big distraction (gay lesbain issue) to divert precious time &amp; resources. they have been sitting on the fence for that long&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ah kow</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/josie-lau-and-team-resigns-from-executive-committee/comment-page-2/#comment-69790</link>
		<dc:creator>ah kow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 15:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Occasionally you may notice insensitive individual contributing in the ST forum with their innocent looking complaint, quite unlike the majority who are tolerant. But what to do? even a leader cannot think about consequences before he speaks. Therefore, this is a wake up call to Singaporean to learnt and practise tolerence. The rest are 5 cents and 10 cents issues can be raised and relook into, using the many open channels available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Occasionally you may notice insensitive individual contributing in the ST forum with their innocent looking complaint, quite unlike the majority who are tolerant. But what to do? even a leader cannot think about consequences before he speaks. Therefore, this is a wake up call to Singaporean to learnt and practise tolerence. The rest are 5 cents and 10 cents issues can be raised and relook into, using the many open channels available.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/josie-lau-and-team-resigns-from-executive-committee/comment-page-2/#comment-69759</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 14:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a great day for Singaporeans. It proved that even after 50 years of pap indoctrination, Singaporeans especially the young ones can see right from wrong. Take away the fear factor and the PAP will be in deep trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a great day for Singaporeans. It proved that even after 50 years of pap indoctrination, Singaporeans especially the young ones can see right from wrong. Take away the fear factor and the PAP will be in deep trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: socrates</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/05/josie-lau-and-team-resigns-from-executive-committee/comment-page-2/#comment-69730</link>
		<dc:creator>socrates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 13:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new team should think about reconciliations. Think about the positive effects this saga has brought. It got all of us thinking ..thinking about what you had done and not done and should be done.  Do not be overhelmed by the majority vote...forgive and move forward..The 3,000 members is god-sent. Enjoy. Best Wishes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new team should think about reconciliations. Think about the positive effects this saga has brought. It got all of us thinking ..thinking about what you had done and not done and should be done.  Do not be overhelmed by the majority vote&#8230;forgive and move forward..The 3,000 members is god-sent. Enjoy. Best Wishes.</p>
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		<title>By: otherworld</title>
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		<dc:creator>otherworld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 12:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AT No.52:

I don&#039;t think these &quot;Christians&quot; who came to vote &quot;silently dignified&quot; and who were disgusted by the other camp by their loud jeering and thus left were anything but dignified. 

Obviously, either they had no passion about AWARE, and like lemmings ordered by their pastor to come &quot;support their AWARE sisters&quot;, came to Suntec and did as told and left.

Or, they suddenly had an epiphany and looked around them and realized that they could not face the real women of Singapore and realized the AWARE cause is far more than just some dogma delivered from the pulpit, or the hallucinations from Thio Su Mien. 

Actions by Josie and her gang seen and heard shows it certainly was very un-Christian of them. Switching on/off the mic when members spoke? Come on? Thio demanding respect? What is she on?

This action by this group of born-again fundamentalists only reinforces my (and many others) belief that organized religion can sometimes do more harm than good, when you have people like them in the ranks.

God help them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AT No.52:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think these &#8220;Christians&#8221; who came to vote &#8220;silently dignified&#8221; and who were disgusted by the other camp by their loud jeering and thus left were anything but dignified. </p>
<p>Obviously, either they had no passion about AWARE, and like lemmings ordered by their pastor to come &#8220;support their AWARE sisters&#8221;, came to Suntec and did as told and left.</p>
<p>Or, they suddenly had an epiphany and looked around them and realized that they could not face the real women of Singapore and realized the AWARE cause is far more than just some dogma delivered from the pulpit, or the hallucinations from Thio Su Mien. </p>
<p>Actions by Josie and her gang seen and heard shows it certainly was very un-Christian of them. Switching on/off the mic when members spoke? Come on? Thio demanding respect? What is she on?</p>
<p>This action by this group of born-again fundamentalists only reinforces my (and many others) belief that organized religion can sometimes do more harm than good, when you have people like them in the ranks.</p>
<p>God help them!</p>
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