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		<title>By: majician's new game</title>
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		<dc:creator>majician's new game</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 02:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we have nevers een any ruling party in the world really help the opposition paries, don&#039;t beleive in that.

This is a master stroke of game play

The initial 3 or 4 members GRC is an unique features and it started with a &quot;good intention&quot;, but alas, once tasted the the sweetness, the ruling parties expanded it to 5, 6 and 7 GRC.

If USA does the same, you would find Texas is in the same GRC super state with Minnesota, or, if Malaysia did the same, you would find Johor is in same GRC with Kelatan !

So long as a sizable number of MP walked into Parliament without having to get a vote, he/she has absolutely no mandate.

If the argument of having unopposed means mandate, then, North Korea ruling party is the most popular &quot;elected mandate&quot; in the world.

We have seen many revision to the electoral system, the GRC introduced in 1984 gave the ruling part 25 years of dominance , though their popular vote consistently declined ( except when PM GOH revived it a little in 2001 GE )

Any changes shoulkd repreasenbt people&#039;s voice and decisions in any parliamentary votes, the NMP and NCMP are toothless tigers, a joke !

The new scheme will help the ruling oarty another 25 years, sad days ahead

Gone are the days leaders gained their mandate by free and fair play, sincere listening and bold vision, in the past 30 years, we see that the status quo helps some to reap handsomely from the nation while the poverty and income gap tripled !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we have nevers een any ruling party in the world really help the opposition paries, don&#8217;t beleive in that.</p>
<p>This is a master stroke of game play</p>
<p>The initial 3 or 4 members GRC is an unique features and it started with a &#8220;good intention&#8221;, but alas, once tasted the the sweetness, the ruling parties expanded it to 5, 6 and 7 GRC.</p>
<p>If USA does the same, you would find Texas is in the same GRC super state with Minnesota, or, if Malaysia did the same, you would find Johor is in same GRC with Kelatan !</p>
<p>So long as a sizable number of MP walked into Parliament without having to get a vote, he/she has absolutely no mandate.</p>
<p>If the argument of having unopposed means mandate, then, North Korea ruling party is the most popular &#8220;elected mandate&#8221; in the world.</p>
<p>We have seen many revision to the electoral system, the GRC introduced in 1984 gave the ruling part 25 years of dominance , though their popular vote consistently declined ( except when PM GOH revived it a little in 2001 GE )</p>
<p>Any changes shoulkd repreasenbt people&#8217;s voice and decisions in any parliamentary votes, the NMP and NCMP are toothless tigers, a joke !</p>
<p>The new scheme will help the ruling oarty another 25 years, sad days ahead</p>
<p>Gone are the days leaders gained their mandate by free and fair play, sincere listening and bold vision, in the past 30 years, we see that the status quo helps some to reap handsomely from the nation while the poverty and income gap tripled !</p>
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		<title>By: NewSintercom &#187; The NCMP Tokenism is a Moral Hazard</title>
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		<dc:creator>NewSintercom &#187; The NCMP Tokenism is a Moral Hazard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 15:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Parliament is turning into more and more into a drama scripted by the PAP. They now say, oh, the people want more opposition voices in parliament so let us increase the number of NCMP to 9, so that the opposition can speak up and the people can know that dissent in parliament is encouraged. However, lest we forget, NCMPs cannot vote. So what if they can speak up in parliament or pound their shoes on the tables for attention, their speeches are useless anyway apart from the wayang factor. The PAP have always said that politics is serious business and it should not be trivialised into comedy or entertainment. However, that is what the NCMP system is turning into. A slapstick comedy of caged, castrated dissent. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Parliament is turning into more and more into a drama scripted by the PAP. They now say, oh, the people want more opposition voices in parliament so let us increase the number of NCMP to 9, so that the opposition can speak up and the people can know that dissent in parliament is encouraged. However, lest we forget, NCMPs cannot vote. So what if they can speak up in parliament or pound their shoes on the tables for attention, their speeches are useless anyway apart from the wayang factor. The PAP have always said that politics is serious business and it should not be trivialised into comedy or entertainment. However, that is what the NCMP system is turning into. A slapstick comedy of caged, castrated dissent. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: gemami</title>
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		<dc:creator>gemami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 10:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike &amp; Angelina,

That makes three of us. I believe so too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &amp; Angelina,</p>
<p>That makes three of us. I believe so too.</p>
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		<title>By: Angelina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angelina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 14:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mike @81
Thats precisely what I had in mind as well.  This aside, there is the threat to be sued for damages even through implication.  Perhaps thats why nobody speaks about Temasek in Parliament?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mike @81<br />
Thats precisely what I had in mind as well.  This aside, there is the threat to be sued for damages even through implication.  Perhaps thats why nobody speaks about Temasek in Parliament?</p>
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		<title>By: eat dead cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>eat dead cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 11:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PM and some ruling party MP tried to portrait the new scheme is a way to allow oppositiin MP come in &quot;from back-door&quot; while they &quot;die-die&quot; keep the GRC

If they ever dare to reduce GRC to all 4 seats, it may just take two GE to see they lose 1/3 of the seats

So, who is the one who can&#039;t stand on own feet ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PM and some ruling party MP tried to portrait the new scheme is a way to allow oppositiin MP come in &#8220;from back-door&#8221; while they &#8220;die-die&#8221; keep the GRC</p>
<p>If they ever dare to reduce GRC to all 4 seats, it may just take two GE to see they lose 1/3 of the seats</p>
<p>So, who is the one who can&#8217;t stand on own feet ?</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 09:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gemami ,

i suspect those NMPs might have signed under the dotted line of not creating troubles and stay within stipulated guideline given.

who knows?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gemami ,</p>
<p>i suspect those NMPs might have signed under the dotted line of not creating troubles and stay within stipulated guideline given.</p>
<p>who knows?</p>
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		<title>By: To #10</title>
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		<dc:creator>To #10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 02:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its more like whether capable singaporeans dare to step forward as opposition party member to run for election rather than whether there are enough talents.

what happens if all talents work in a particular service? can they step forward without quiting their jobs?

singapore voters are in their own ways responsible for this situation. 50 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its more like whether capable singaporeans dare to step forward as opposition party member to run for election rather than whether there are enough talents.</p>
<p>what happens if all talents work in a particular service? can they step forward without quiting their jobs?</p>
<p>singapore voters are in their own ways responsible for this situation. 50 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Real power comes with real change &#171; Jacob 69er</title>
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		<dc:creator>Real power comes with real change &#171; Jacob 69er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 01:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Alot is being said and written about these &#8220;changes&#8221;. To mention a few, see here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Alot is being said and written about these &#8220;changes&#8221;. To mention a few, see here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: gemami</title>
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		<dc:creator>gemami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 23:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dawn of a New Era,

Effect-wise, I share the same sentiments that Eunice (and practically all the other NMPS - past and present) have not had much impact on parliament even with those who have tried to contribute as much as they did. However, I am not faulting them for not trying. We must see beyond the effect they can hope to have as an NMP.

Should they come out and stand for election to be a full-fledged MP, this scenario would be drastically different. The primary difference, as I had mentioned, would be the clear mandate from the voters that this is their elected representative and therefore is speaking and acting on the voters behalf. 

This is what they are not getting as NMPs and this is why the NMP and the NCMP schemes must go back to where they belong - obscurity. This I totally agree with you. Unfortunately, we are going to live aith them for some time yet, and instead of fighting it, why not use it? One way of using it is for the opposition to gain exposure to parliamentary debates. This cannot be a bad thing surely, unless one bumbles around like Cheo Chai Chen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dawn of a New Era,</p>
<p>Effect-wise, I share the same sentiments that Eunice (and practically all the other NMPS &#8211; past and present) have not had much impact on parliament even with those who have tried to contribute as much as they did. However, I am not faulting them for not trying. We must see beyond the effect they can hope to have as an NMP.</p>
<p>Should they come out and stand for election to be a full-fledged MP, this scenario would be drastically different. The primary difference, as I had mentioned, would be the clear mandate from the voters that this is their elected representative and therefore is speaking and acting on the voters behalf. </p>
<p>This is what they are not getting as NMPs and this is why the NMP and the NCMP schemes must go back to where they belong &#8211; obscurity. This I totally agree with you. Unfortunately, we are going to live aith them for some time yet, and instead of fighting it, why not use it? One way of using it is for the opposition to gain exposure to parliamentary debates. This cannot be a bad thing surely, unless one bumbles around like Cheo Chai Chen.</p>
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		<title>By: A&#38;E</title>
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		<dc:creator>A&#38;E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 21:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post-to-view</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post-to-view</p>
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		<title>By: Hindsight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hindsight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 16:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many PAP MPs have been congratulating themselves that they are so good, so strong candidates and have good support from the constituents, etc, etc and that the  opposition candidates are weak, etc , etc and therefore they do not have the support of the constituents and so cannot get themselves elected into parliament.  If they are really so good, then the next logical thing to do is to campaign in the single member constituency and put their money/faith  where their mouth is.  It is no point hiding under the GRC scheme to get themselves elected or just walk-over in an election.  
Therefore the next election should have at least 50% single seat member constituency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many PAP MPs have been congratulating themselves that they are so good, so strong candidates and have good support from the constituents, etc, etc and that the  opposition candidates are weak, etc , etc and therefore they do not have the support of the constituents and so cannot get themselves elected into parliament.  If they are really so good, then the next logical thing to do is to campaign in the single member constituency and put their money/faith  where their mouth is.  It is no point hiding under the GRC scheme to get themselves elected or just walk-over in an election.<br />
Therefore the next election should have at least 50% single seat member constituency.</p>
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		<title>By: sllim</title>
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		<dc:creator>sllim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 15:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shotgun #3,


“….  In the long run, it may alter the dynamics of parliamentary debates as PM Lee aims; more creative debates and more views. The PAP can then take these alternative views and implement them into parts of their policies and improve governance and popularity.”

“…. The “sacrificial” piece could be a move to bring an end to the match instead, once and for all, sealing the debate over the necessity for an opposition in Singapore”


I doubt the PAP’s move would have such a comprehensive effect. Still, yours is a very astute analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shotgun #3,</p>
<p>“….  In the long run, it may alter the dynamics of parliamentary debates as PM Lee aims; more creative debates and more views. The PAP can then take these alternative views and implement them into parts of their policies and improve governance and popularity.”</p>
<p>“…. The “sacrificial” piece could be a move to bring an end to the match instead, once and for all, sealing the debate over the necessity for an opposition in Singapore”</p>
<p>I doubt the PAP’s move would have such a comprehensive effect. Still, yours is a very astute analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: SZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 15:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In short, a painful lessons such as lost of seats is needed to wake them up...plus let this gambit fail to show that things won&#039;t go as smoothly as they hoped</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In short, a painful lessons such as lost of seats is needed to wake them up&#8230;plus let this gambit fail to show that things won&#8217;t go as smoothly as they hoped</p>
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		<title>By: A Question</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Question</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 13:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To #10 Sarek_home,

Question : I think judging by the performance of some MPs and the size of the Civil Serivice (headcounts) I think there are many more than capable or similarly capable.

The issue is there is shortage in the Opposition side of the Equation. 
Are Civil Servants allowed to run for Election for Opposition? Any Clause?
The answer may be obvious.

In summary, me think, there is more than 9 who more than qualify. could be as many as 90. But the reality is many could not or would not step forward. Opposition people are a different breed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To #10 Sarek_home,</p>
<p>Question : I think judging by the performance of some MPs and the size of the Civil Serivice (headcounts) I think there are many more than capable or similarly capable.</p>
<p>The issue is there is shortage in the Opposition side of the Equation.<br />
Are Civil Servants allowed to run for Election for Opposition? Any Clause?<br />
The answer may be obvious.</p>
<p>In summary, me think, there is more than 9 who more than qualify. could be as many as 90. But the reality is many could not or would not step forward. Opposition people are a different breed.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn of a New Era</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn of a New Era</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 12:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>66) gemami on May 28th, 2009 4.37 pm 

&quot;For me, the best scenario would go something like this:
a. all past and present NMPs like Mr Siew Kum Hong and Eunice Olsen&quot;

Erm, Eunice Olsen? sorry, I did not have much impression of her.
What has she voiced up about, care to share?

All I heard was SKH&#039;s numerous numerous people&#039;s voices.

I Do Not support the NCMP scheme. I authorize this message.
But due to the severe shortage of voicing the alternative voice, it can be tolerated upto the next election only. As they say, Boh Her Hay Mah Hoh.
In singlish english, it means if no meesoto with hum  ,  without hum also can do for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>66) gemami on May 28th, 2009 4.37 pm </p>
<p>&#8220;For me, the best scenario would go something like this:<br />
a. all past and present NMPs like Mr Siew Kum Hong and Eunice Olsen&#8221;</p>
<p>Erm, Eunice Olsen? sorry, I did not have much impression of her.<br />
What has she voiced up about, care to share?</p>
<p>All I heard was SKH&#8217;s numerous numerous people&#8217;s voices.</p>
<p>I Do Not support the NCMP scheme. I authorize this message.<br />
But due to the severe shortage of voicing the alternative voice, it can be tolerated upto the next election only. As they say, Boh Her Hay Mah Hoh.<br />
In singlish english, it means if no meesoto with hum  ,  without hum also can do for now.</p>
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		<title>By: leesjuanpat</title>
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		<dc:creator>leesjuanpat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 10:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The greatest change is to do away with GRC representation. All constituencies
should be single ward.  This will be the real evolution of the political system in Singapore.

Adding more non-elected MPs, without equal power as the elected MPs, is just a 
wayang show.

To save the Government skin, with the great losses of Billions, PM Lee tries hard to sweeten the masses with his seemingly magnanimous gesture of political overture.  

There is an underlying current of political liberalisation. PAP is up to nothing good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The greatest change is to do away with GRC representation. All constituencies<br />
should be single ward.  This will be the real evolution of the political system in Singapore.</p>
<p>Adding more non-elected MPs, without equal power as the elected MPs, is just a<br />
wayang show.</p>
<p>To save the Government skin, with the great losses of Billions, PM Lee tries hard to sweeten the masses with his seemingly magnanimous gesture of political overture.  </p>
<p>There is an underlying current of political liberalisation. PAP is up to nothing good.</p>
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		<title>By: woodpecker</title>
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		<dc:creator>woodpecker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 09:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is likely to be just step one of the checkmate move.

If I read them correctly, their next step is to use their media mouthpieces to confuse the people by repeatedly highlighting confusing facts.

See how Ministry of Manpower keeps repeating the employment rate for &#039;residents&#039; and not separate the employment figures for native Singaporeans vs the permanent residents?

Same trick here. Dont be surprised if they use the media to keep psychoing the citizens that we have too many opposition candidates in parliament. What the media is likely to leave out is that many of those in parliament via this proposed scheme CANT VOTE against any unjust or self-serving bills that are tabled.

So even if you have 10 opposition MPs with voting rights in parliament, expect the figures reported to be way higher (?19). 

So those voters who are sitting on the fence in subsequent elections will be less likely to give the opposition their vote as they fear instability.

Looks to me this move is to prevent the opposition from even getting a beachhead to stop them from having the overwhelming say on all issues in Sg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is likely to be just step one of the checkmate move.</p>
<p>If I read them correctly, their next step is to use their media mouthpieces to confuse the people by repeatedly highlighting confusing facts.</p>
<p>See how Ministry of Manpower keeps repeating the employment rate for &#8216;residents&#8217; and not separate the employment figures for native Singaporeans vs the permanent residents?</p>
<p>Same trick here. Dont be surprised if they use the media to keep psychoing the citizens that we have too many opposition candidates in parliament. What the media is likely to leave out is that many of those in parliament via this proposed scheme CANT VOTE against any unjust or self-serving bills that are tabled.</p>
<p>So even if you have 10 opposition MPs with voting rights in parliament, expect the figures reported to be way higher (?19). </p>
<p>So those voters who are sitting on the fence in subsequent elections will be less likely to give the opposition their vote as they fear instability.</p>
<p>Looks to me this move is to prevent the opposition from even getting a beachhead to stop them from having the overwhelming say on all issues in Sg.</p>
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		<title>By: market2garden</title>
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		<dc:creator>market2garden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 09:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A better system would be:
84 seats,
25% of single member constituency = 21
75% of 3-member constituency = 63
Scrap off NCMP scheme
NMP to 7.
And one (only one) minister-calibre don&#039;t have to go thru the election process to be appointed as official holder (highest post - full minister).
That is to say  I&#039;m not prefer Proportionate Representation.
Just my opinion.
I&#039;m neutral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A better system would be:<br />
84 seats,<br />
25% of single member constituency = 21<br />
75% of 3-member constituency = 63<br />
Scrap off NCMP scheme<br />
NMP to 7.<br />
And one (only one) minister-calibre don&#8217;t have to go thru the election process to be appointed as official holder (highest post &#8211; full minister).<br />
That is to say  I&#8217;m not prefer Proportionate Representation.<br />
Just my opinion.<br />
I&#8217;m neutral.</p>
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		<title>By: radlife66</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 09:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>theoretically, just thinking aloud, can PAP amend the constitution and declare that SG is now a chinese communist state. No need to go for voting.

Holding hands at midnight 
&#039;Neath a starry sky... 
Nice work if you can get it 
And you can get it -- if you try. 
Strolling with the one girl 
Sighing sigh after sigh... 
Nice work if you can get it 
And you can get it -- if you try 
Who could ask for anything more?

no seriously. With a PAP majority, is this theoretically possible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>theoretically, just thinking aloud, can PAP amend the constitution and declare that SG is now a chinese communist state. No need to go for voting.</p>
<p>Holding hands at midnight<br />
&#8216;Neath a starry sky&#8230;<br />
Nice work if you can get it<br />
And you can get it &#8212; if you try.<br />
Strolling with the one girl<br />
Sighing sigh after sigh&#8230;<br />
Nice work if you can get it<br />
And you can get it &#8212; if you try<br />
Who could ask for anything more?</p>
<p>no seriously. With a PAP majority, is this theoretically possible?</p>
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		<title>By: gemami</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 08:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True that some change is better than no change. For this reason I am hopeful that the opposition can start strategising and see how they can take advantage of this concession.

For me, the best scenario would go something like this:
a.  all past and present NMPs like Mr Siew Kum Hong and Eunice Olsen go stand in one of the SMCs. Even if they fail to win, we can be sure that they will still make the NCMP positions (even though I am against the scheme for its hollow effect, it is still good for publicity purpose).
b.  oppositions parties to consolidate their big guns and contest the weaker GRCs.
c.  avoid three-corner fights.
d.  concentrate on quality candidates rather than quantity. The purpose is to show Singaporeans that the opposition candidates can hold themselves in Parliament to fight for the needs of the people. Bumbling candidates like Mr Cheo Chai Chen to sit the next election out for the sake of not putting the opposition in a bad light.
e.  weaker opposition candidates to take on PAP&#039;s stronghold GRCs so as to allow the electorate exercise their voting rights, as well as to allow the opposition to gauge the ground sentiments for future contests.

It might not be so bad after all. It will only be bad if Singaporeans do not take the opportunity to put in an alternative slate of parliamentary representatives who can truly place the PAP under check and balance. I really hope I can trust Singaporeans this time to do the right thing and deny the PAP two-thirds of the parliamentary seats up for grabs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True that some change is better than no change. For this reason I am hopeful that the opposition can start strategising and see how they can take advantage of this concession.</p>
<p>For me, the best scenario would go something like this:<br />
a.  all past and present NMPs like Mr Siew Kum Hong and Eunice Olsen go stand in one of the SMCs. Even if they fail to win, we can be sure that they will still make the NCMP positions (even though I am against the scheme for its hollow effect, it is still good for publicity purpose).<br />
b.  oppositions parties to consolidate their big guns and contest the weaker GRCs.<br />
c.  avoid three-corner fights.<br />
d.  concentrate on quality candidates rather than quantity. The purpose is to show Singaporeans that the opposition candidates can hold themselves in Parliament to fight for the needs of the people. Bumbling candidates like Mr Cheo Chai Chen to sit the next election out for the sake of not putting the opposition in a bad light.<br />
e.  weaker opposition candidates to take on PAP&#8217;s stronghold GRCs so as to allow the electorate exercise their voting rights, as well as to allow the opposition to gauge the ground sentiments for future contests.</p>
<p>It might not be so bad after all. It will only be bad if Singaporeans do not take the opportunity to put in an alternative slate of parliamentary representatives who can truly place the PAP under check and balance. I really hope I can trust Singaporeans this time to do the right thing and deny the PAP two-thirds of the parliamentary seats up for grabs.</p>
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