Comments on: TOC Editorial: But butterflies are free

By: TOC – a community of Singaporeans | The Online Citizen

TOC – a community of Singaporeans | The Online Citizen — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:36:49 +0000

[...] Focus Week; for the bridging of the divide between the government and blogosphere; against the Marxist Conspiracy and the continued relevance of the ISA; against the Film’s Act; for Siew Kum Hong – for him to [...]

By: so simple

so simple — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 09:04:51 +0000

Isn’t it easy to talk cock when one has the law and security in the pocket ?
Simple as that.
Isn’t it true ISA has kept us safe but even safer for some only ?
Simple as that.

By: Ah Gong

Ah Gong — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:02:12 +0000

The fact that no one had ever goes to court to seek damage for being wrongfully detained in Singapore means that no one had ever been wrongfully detained in Singapore under ISA! Simple as that.

Furthermore, to bring us forward, it is the GRC system that needs to be demolished, not the ISA that had been keeping us safe all these years!

By: Ah Pek

Ah Pek — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 01:32:31 +0000

We can see that since no one had ever gone to court to seek damage on wrongful detention under ISA, this goes to show that none of the detainees thus far had been unlawfully detained! Simple as that.

By: Reform not Repeal the ISA « Chemical Generation Singapore

Reform not Repeal the ISA « Chemical Generation Singapore — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 10:55:47 +0000

[...] is a balanced one. Very often we come across very extreme views on the ISA where there is the rabid anti-ISA mob on one hand, and the deranged ISA apologists on the other, both citing boring shallow [...]

By: AC

AC — Thu, 28 May 2009 08:28:01 +0000

@stone cold

Yes, we have the right to form 5-6 man teams with huge deposits to give Singaporeans the right to vote.

We have the right to face attacks on our integrity over the one-sided mass media, and then we have the right to be challenged to go to the police to overthrow those accusations.

When the police report is made, and when it was announced, then we have the right to be sued because the courts can construe that police report as grave demation to our leaders and then we will have the right, the honor and the priviledge to pay up millions or be bankrupted.

Sure, Singaporeans have lots of rights where politics are concerned.

By: A Tan

A Tan — Wed, 27 May 2009 05:00:08 +0000

Hello TOC

Where were you?

Singaporeans have always questioned the relevance of the Internal Security Act.. Even LKY questioned ISA, when he ws in Opposition.

Questioning ISA is not the issue. The issue is: Those in power find it a convenient tool.

By: Alan Wong

Alan Wong — Tue, 26 May 2009 23:37:58 +0000

Who in this world can hold on to power for so long if not for such underhand tactics in cowing the opposition into silence, what more for a man who is past his prime, many decades over.

Looking back in history, it is exactly these cruel methods that make this leader no different from the scums of this earth like Hitler, Mugabe, Vietcong, Burmese Generals, etc.

I believe no one is really indispensaple unless he is God. All this mentoring is just bullshit.

By: Stone Cold said so

Stone Cold said so — Tue, 26 May 2009 23:34:11 +0000

What is the issue here?
The people have the right to vote for who they want to be ruling them right?
So? what is the issue here?

By: Max Chew

Max Chew — Tue, 26 May 2009 14:08:26 +0000

To truth hurts……yes indeed! Those little thugs in the security apparatuses are all protected and condoned by the Big Thug at the head of the Govt. Not only our LKY (look at his pic in the 80s/90s…does his face not look like a typical samseng kia?), but Mugabe, Suharto, Marcos, Than Swee and dozens more all over the world.
Righteous good men must now stand up to these cruel, corrupt, and greedy scums of the earth and get rid of them!

By: T N T

T N T — Tue, 26 May 2009 14:02:23 +0000

@ TMT,

we need to change it so that you will not be a victim of such a system one day.
of course you should have no fear if you are a PAP supporter, but who knows a new govt in the future may use the ISA on PAP members who are the opposition.
history teaches us that evil begets evil simply because evil imitates evil. get it ?

By: TMT

TMT — Tue, 26 May 2009 13:09:51 +0000

ISA kept us safe all these years…why change it?

By: guojun Wong

guojun Wong — Tue, 26 May 2009 11:14:39 +0000

What “independent council” to oversee impartiality and humane treatment of detainees? That is an ideal construct with is practically unreachable in the world of Realpolitik. There is no council for overseeing impartiality against detainees anywhere, except perhaps the UN. But it’s not like the UN can control what a country does.

Positively, however, we can see it like this – we now know that the Gahmen knows how tenuous its grip on power is, and how much they actually fear a popular opposition. The only way to control something you fear is to make that fear you even more…so it is good that people are reminded, year after year, what once happened and how much you can or cannot trust those in charge. It is because we let ourselves get bullied into fearing the Gahmen that they have carte blanche as it is, when indeed the Gahmen should fear us more because we can simply put them out of power.

By: truth hurts

truth hurts — Tue, 26 May 2009 10:05:03 +0000

Any kind of state security apparatus can be useful if the application is not abused
for political purposes. There should be an independent council to oversee impartiality and humane treatment of detainees deemed a threat to public safety.

Several articles recently posted on TOC highlighting the bullying tactics used on our citizens confirmed we have thugs masquerading as state security personnel.

Isn’t it sickening that it takes a bigger thug to condone the wrong doings ?