Alex Au is gay and of course buddy with SKH

No to SKH fro another term .. his behaviour at AWARE saga showed his true color and as NMP he encouraged the attacks on the Josie team who had shown great tolerance and control throughout.

Let me just highlight a few points:

1) As mentioned so many times above, the VAST majority of his speeches, etc were NOT about homosexuality.

2) SKH explicitly stated that he was not pro gay, just anti-discrimination.

3) It is ridiculous to say that you do not want him in parliament because you are the taxpayer and you do not want your money spent on someone who has made such speeches. Don’t homosexuals pay taxes too? One measly speech out of 134, made by one measly NMP out of 80 plus members of parliament, is a pitiful underrepresentation for homosexuals.

4) It is also ridiculous to say that you only want people in parliament who have the same mainstream conservative views as you. A homogeneous parliament is redundant.

and most importantly:

5) It is a true EMBARRASSMENT to singapore that the people wish to resolve issues on the basis of whether it matches our “mainstream conservative values” , “Asian values”, etc, instead of through REASON, EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE, etc. Honestly, the sky is not going to fall if you choose reason over tradition.

Anyway, homosexuality aside, SKH comes across as a very intelligent, humane person, thus his anti-discrimination stance on that one particular issue. I suggest we see him as someone with the right skills to be a minister, instead of overreacting to a corollary of that.

what i dont understand is why are the allegations of him behind funded by the Swede, an attack? if it is untrue, Siew has indeed stepped out like a true man and has even made a police report

i firmly believe that politics is not squeaky clean. there has to be a certain amount of truth before someone has to balls to go about pointing such dirty fingers. then again, even though siew has made a police report, it doesnt mean that he is the victim too.

the politics scene is getting interesting

I actually worked with SKH during the AWARE saga and I think he’s what we need in parliament – a person driven by passion of belief rather than passion of ……….Though having said that, one should be able to see how SKH is not best loved by the powers that be.

http://maruahsg.wordpress.com/about/the-committee/

Exactly, this is what I meant. People make accusation based on somebody story which is also based another people story…. and so on. We just like to hear juicy stories make make it sound like real. If you can see the blog …. a lots of words like “maybe”, “I think”, “I heard”….. is being used. How can one trust their statements.

134) Tang Li on May 17th, 2009 4.43 pm

Why is he a disgrace? At least he is making full use of his right in the given space as a NMP. Many of the other NMPs and most MPs are pretty useless and do not engage in debates with the government at all. He is doing the best he could….. Tang Li, again you are thinking from your butt….. Why is he disgraceful? At least he spoke out, YOU only know how to criticize.

You are those who attacked. Why are people like you making claims that you cannot proved or substantiate? Show us proves of what you have claimed, not some guy who wrote something stating he got the info from another source who also claimed the same. WE WILL LISTEN if you can prove it, if not it is only rumors and we seriously question your intentions and who is the mastermind behind all your baseless claims. Prove it. If I have lunch with PM Lee, does that means he is paying me money and soon making me his minister. DO NOT JUMP TO CONCLUSION. USE you brain.

siew’s exposure has brought him a lot of admirers and supporters and he had given the parliament a lot of good points and debates. he has raised good issues and constantly debated for improvements or changes.

honestly siew will not get his extension, not he is controversial… he is too close to oppositions.

Last week I met up with my secondary school classmates. We had dinner. I discovered one of them is now a gay, two of the girls have been living together since 1990s and their are lesbians. 2 of them have just been released from prison. Another one is actively involved in a opposition party in Singapore….

After the meeting, news spread that we are all (21 of us) have been funding the opposition party, and we are planning to get support from prisoners in Singapore prisons by converting them into gays and lesbians. In fact some Christian classmates who did not come told people we are tools of the devil trying to destroy family structure by promoting gays and lesbian living together.

Right versus Wrong, …… If you do not have real proof and only hear say then do not make baseless accusations …. you have to be responsible for what you said and proof that it is a fact…. if you spread it. Can you tell us where you hear all this information….. from another forum?

His admission that he is now not a legal advisor to the Aware team astounded people where earlier he did not dispute this reported fact that he is legal advisor to the Aware team. Why is there a flip flop and turn around? Where is his crediblitiy? How reliable is he? Can we trust his words now on? Can we sincerely have some answers without being attacked as baseless accusations or unfair attacks against him

“in making any nomination, the Special Select Committee shall have regard to the need for nominated Members to reflect as wide a range of independent and non-partisan views as possible.

it’s a nice question what “non-partisan” and “independent” mean. Do they simply mean that the nominee cannot be a member of a political party, or do they mean that the nominee must be ‘neutral’ and not take sides? If the second interpretation is preferred, then SKH’s application could well be rejected, since he took sides in the 377A debate.

Of course, that would be a ridiculous outcome. True ‘non-partisanship’ and ‘objectivity’ is impossible. We’re all ‘partisan’ in respect of the values and beliefs we hold dear to, and we expect our politicians to fight for what they are genuinely passionate about, be it gay rights, equal educational opportunities for all children, or fair retrenchment benefits. If we expected our NMPs to be “non-partisan” in the second sense described above, then we’d get no one but the spineless and feeble-minded filling those positions.

The relevant legal provision is section 33 of the Legal Profession Act.

If you look at that provision, it’s clear that the charge against SKH holds no water. SKH did not take out any writ or summons, or prosecute any court proceedings, or draw up any legal document. He clearly did not “wilfully or falsely pretend” to be authorised to act as a lawyer, because practically everybody knows (and even more so, his friends at AWARE) that he’s a corporate counsel without a practising certificate. You can’t deceive or mislead a person unless he’s ignorant about the true facts. Otherwise, X can be charged for fraud if he tells Y that the sun rises in the west.

they ? how many nmps you are talking about who are promoting gay cause leh ? out of a sudden many allegations ? do you think these allegations are going to increase or decrease leh ? do you think this promotion of gay cause is going to increase or decrease even with all the allegations around leh ?

you just do not understand that you are dealing with a slowly shifting of the human psyche on some outdated mindset that many people still hold. did you you read this :

“In his speech, PM Lee said that Singapore is basically a conservative society and the conventional family, a heterosexual stable family, is the norm and the building block of our society. However, we recognise that homosexuals are part of our society.

They have a place in our society and are entitled to their private lives. This is the way the majority of Singaporeans want it to be – a stable society with traditional, heterosexual family values but with space for homosexuals to live their private lives and contribute to society. ”

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_376723.html

a lot of people are not pro-gay but are anti-your-screwed-up logic.

aiyoh, you call this interesting. just a group of like minded people coming for a specific cause and they may move on after this and maybe form another group as and when it is called for. instead, i do think that people like you are interesting and a rare breed.

you may connect here and there and at the end of the day, they are still there for you to make further connectivity. you can’t really stop intelligent people to do what they are doing. if it is so wrong and illegal, they would have been arrested in no time with all the glaring alarm / publicity given to them by people like you.

What and how do they represent, honestly and truthfully. There are many allegations made that they are promoting the gay cause, prodded on by locals and a (gay rights?) Swede.

NMPs and Siew Kum Hong, prepared to be probed and prodded.

after going through the news as above and if everything presented is 100% accurate (100% ????), i do not see any problem why he would not be able to handle it.

“Now potentially a subject for a probe and he denies it?”

denies what ? that everyone can see from what has been recorded during the egm event on 2nd May 2009 or everything that smart people like you are able to assess in his blog.

the issue lies in the word ‘legal adviser’. you and your friends are splitting hair on the title “legal adviser” while the content of his work speaks volumn – which may not to be your liking. perhaps, this is one last straw all of you are left to be holding where the bigger logs are nowhere to be found. yes, keep trying as you need to stay afloat.

“I also don’t think you your financial planner friends appreciate being dragged into this discussion?”

was the word ‘financial’ mentioned. well, this is the world as it is (there are good people and there are not-so-good people) and how did this financial crisis come about – definitely not due to those lesser-mortal non-experts. let’s not pretend, you have whole shade of goodness to badness in everything.