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		<title>By: angyonghao</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/celebrating-national-day-but-is-this-necessary/comment-page-3/#comment-225659</link>
		<dc:creator>angyonghao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 13:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>every year the NDP parade all same.whats the point of celebrating ndp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>every year the NDP parade all same.whats the point of celebrating ndp</p>
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		<title>By: Mariella Mckerley</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/celebrating-national-day-but-is-this-necessary/comment-page-3/#comment-214286</link>
		<dc:creator>Mariella Mckerley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 06:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its like you read my mind! You seem to know so much about this, like you wrote the book in it or something. I think that you could do with some pics to drive the message home a little bit, but instead of that, this is magnificent blog. A great read. I will definitely be back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its like you read my mind! You seem to know so much about this, like you wrote the book in it or something. I think that you could do with some pics to drive the message home a little bit, but instead of that, this is magnificent blog. A great read. I will definitely be back.</p>
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		<title>By: creducator</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/celebrating-national-day-but-is-this-necessary/comment-page-3/#comment-85483</link>
		<dc:creator>creducator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi 109) mice is nice,

Because it is not transparent, that&#039;s why most of us never thought of National Day celebration is actually PAP Day celebration until now ma. 

Thanks to Andrew Loh for starting this thread, which makes us aware of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi 109) mice is nice,</p>
<p>Because it is not transparent, that&#8217;s why most of us never thought of National Day celebration is actually PAP Day celebration until now ma. </p>
<p>Thanks to Andrew Loh for starting this thread, which makes us aware of this.</p>
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		<title>By: mice is nice</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/celebrating-national-day-but-is-this-necessary/comment-page-3/#comment-85356</link>
		<dc:creator>mice is nice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi KopitiamApek,

we can have big hearts because there is no politics between us. lol... ;) 

hmmm...
////if we think someone has hijacked it to make it celebration for them, then it is for them,
if you think it is for Singapore, then it becomes for us.////
in concept agree, but hor, in reality they use who&#039;s money to throw the party?

-.-&quot;

.................................................................................................................................

hi Creducator,

dun agree nevermind, say it openly. must be transparent mah.  :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi KopitiamApek,</p>
<p>we can have big hearts because there is no politics between us. lol&#8230; ;) </p>
<p>hmmm&#8230;<br />
////if we think someone has hijacked it to make it celebration for them, then it is for them,<br />
if you think it is for Singapore, then it becomes for us.////<br />
in concept agree, but hor, in reality they use who&#8217;s money to throw the party?</p>
<p>-.-&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>hi Creducator,</p>
<p>dun agree nevermind, say it openly. must be transparent mah.  :P</p>
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		<title>By: Rafflesian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rafflesian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Naitonal Day is blatantly hijacked for PAP promotion.  Yes, it speaks volumes of the type of ruling party SG has but what is more disturbing is that the 66% of the 50%? who voted are psycoed by these promotions.  Makes me wonder how many percent of Singaporeans are actually EUDCATED and makes me conclude that it does not mean if one goes to school or university in SG, one is educated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Naitonal Day is blatantly hijacked for PAP promotion.  Yes, it speaks volumes of the type of ruling party SG has but what is more disturbing is that the 66% of the 50%? who voted are psycoed by these promotions.  Makes me wonder how many percent of Singaporeans are actually EUDCATED and makes me conclude that it does not mean if one goes to school or university in SG, one is educated.</p>
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		<title>By: KopitiamApek</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/celebrating-national-day-but-is-this-necessary/comment-page-3/#comment-85145</link>
		<dc:creator>KopitiamApek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good night. all.
Need to rest so that I can be at Kopitiam bright and early in the morning.
: )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good night. all.<br />
Need to rest so that I can be at Kopitiam bright and early in the morning.<br />
: )</p>
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		<title>By: creducator</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/celebrating-national-day-but-is-this-necessary/comment-page-3/#comment-85141</link>
		<dc:creator>creducator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>102) mice is nice,

&quot;national day in its true form we would see all political parties in the same VIP stand, celebrating the National Day together. CSJ included!! &quot;

Nice idea, but PAP will not agree... cos National Day = PAP Day</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>102) mice is nice,</p>
<p>&#8220;national day in its true form we would see all political parties in the same VIP stand, celebrating the National Day together. CSJ included!! &#8221;</p>
<p>Nice idea, but PAP will not agree&#8230; cos National Day = PAP Day</p>
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		<title>By: KopitiamApek</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/celebrating-national-day-but-is-this-necessary/comment-page-3/#comment-85140</link>
		<dc:creator>KopitiamApek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>102) mice is nice on July 5th, 2009 11.55 pm

we can have big hearts also lah,
just celebrate for our Singapore as a citizen
put aside the political differences for a day

like celebarting a birthday, 
be it our own, our chilfdren&#039;s our spouse&#039;s, our parents/grandparents&#039;, 
we celebrate the day heartily, 
putting aside the differences for that day of celebration.

if we think someone has hijacked it to make it celebration for them, then it is for them, 
if you think it is for Singapore, then it becomes for us.

to quote Robert Kiyosaki &quot;what you think is real becomes your reality&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>102) mice is nice on July 5th, 2009 11.55 pm</p>
<p>we can have big hearts also lah,<br />
just celebrate for our Singapore as a citizen<br />
put aside the political differences for a day</p>
<p>like celebarting a birthday,<br />
be it our own, our chilfdren&#8217;s our spouse&#8217;s, our parents/grandparents&#8217;,<br />
we celebrate the day heartily,<br />
putting aside the differences for that day of celebration.</p>
<p>if we think someone has hijacked it to make it celebration for them, then it is for them,<br />
if you think it is for Singapore, then it becomes for us.</p>
<p>to quote Robert Kiyosaki &#8220;what you think is real becomes your reality&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mice is nice</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/celebrating-national-day-but-is-this-necessary/comment-page-3/#comment-85138</link>
		<dc:creator>mice is nice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi KopitiamApek,

nevermind. just treat it as a cold joke loh....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi KopitiamApek,</p>
<p>nevermind. just treat it as a cold joke loh&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: mice is nice</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/celebrating-national-day-but-is-this-necessary/comment-page-3/#comment-85136</link>
		<dc:creator>mice is nice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>national day in its true form we would see all political parties in the same VIP stand, celebrating the National Day together. CSJ included!! 

big men should have big hearts, put petty politics aside for 1 day. is it that hard to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>national day in its true form we would see all political parties in the same VIP stand, celebrating the National Day together. CSJ included!! </p>
<p>big men should have big hearts, put petty politics aside for 1 day. is it that hard to do?</p>
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		<title>By: KopitiamApek</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/celebrating-national-day-but-is-this-necessary/comment-page-3/#comment-85135</link>
		<dc:creator>KopitiamApek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>97) mice is nice 

?? don&#039;t get you leh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>97) mice is nice </p>
<p>?? don&#8217;t get you leh.</p>
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		<title>By: KopitiamApek</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/celebrating-national-day-but-is-this-necessary/comment-page-3/#comment-85134</link>
		<dc:creator>KopitiamApek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>98) Daniel on July 5th, 2009 11.31 pm

///True enough it is another topic. But from another perspective, it is indirectly linked.///
Agree with you. There is a link. Come to think of it, every topic in TOC will be linked one way or another, if it is an issue affecting SG. 

(Unless we are talking about MJ&#039;s untimely departure, than I cannot see its link. But I never underestimate the ingenuity of posters here to find that link, and somehow blame that on gahmen too. I have been disappointed so far, non have suggested  : )  )

Sorry, couldn&#039;t resist writing that, now back what where I was...

As the chance of being link is pretty high, I am of the opinion that staying on the topic will compartalised the topics better, and make discussions more meaningful and focussed.

Hope you do see my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>98) Daniel on July 5th, 2009 11.31 pm</p>
<p>///True enough it is another topic. But from another perspective, it is indirectly linked.///<br />
Agree with you. There is a link. Come to think of it, every topic in TOC will be linked one way or another, if it is an issue affecting SG. </p>
<p>(Unless we are talking about MJ&#8217;s untimely departure, than I cannot see its link. But I never underestimate the ingenuity of posters here to find that link, and somehow blame that on gahmen too. I have been disappointed so far, non have suggested  : )  )</p>
<p>Sorry, couldn&#8217;t resist writing that, now back what where I was&#8230;</p>
<p>As the chance of being link is pretty high, I am of the opinion that staying on the topic will compartalised the topics better, and make discussions more meaningful and focussed.</p>
<p>Hope you do see my point.</p>
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		<title>By: KSS</title>
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		<dc:creator>KSS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really care about National Day Celebrations.  The reason is that it&#039;s the same boring stuff year in year out.  So I treat it as just another holiday.

On the other hand, I also think it is important for us to remember this day, especially the younger ones.  This day reminds us how we became a nation of Singaporeans.

I think we should not mix the current economic problems with national day celebrations.  Today&#039;s economic problems are not unique to Singapore.  They are global in characteristics.

In fact, I think there is a good reason to spend on celebrations because when the consumers spend it also means that someone in our society will be employed.  If nobody spends, then we will only aggravate unemployment.

The only problem about National Day Celebrations seem to look more and more like a PAP family day  every year as someone pointed out earlier.  I think the day our Parliament is represented with a better balance of both ruling and alternative voices, the view of National Day will be interpreted by Singaporeans in the appropriate way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really care about National Day Celebrations.  The reason is that it&#8217;s the same boring stuff year in year out.  So I treat it as just another holiday.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I also think it is important for us to remember this day, especially the younger ones.  This day reminds us how we became a nation of Singaporeans.</p>
<p>I think we should not mix the current economic problems with national day celebrations.  Today&#8217;s economic problems are not unique to Singapore.  They are global in characteristics.</p>
<p>In fact, I think there is a good reason to spend on celebrations because when the consumers spend it also means that someone in our society will be employed.  If nobody spends, then we will only aggravate unemployment.</p>
<p>The only problem about National Day Celebrations seem to look more and more like a PAP family day  every year as someone pointed out earlier.  I think the day our Parliament is represented with a better balance of both ruling and alternative voices, the view of National Day will be interpreted by Singaporeans in the appropriate way.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; I do not know how do we do a survey with regards to the loss by Temasek,&quot;

True enough it is another topic. But from another perspective, it is indirectly linked. How much accountability Temasek has towards the general public (as it is using large pool of public reserve too) also affect how we feel of Singapore as a nation. For we know that whole Singapore is run as monarchy and which high official benefit greatly from the structure regardless of whether loss and gain, whereas the citizens are made to pay for their honest mistake and share little when they gain, how well can we feel it as a nation ? 

&quot; I do not know how do we do a survey with regards to the loss by Temasek,&quot;
It is pointless to do a survey anyway where our instinct tell us Temasek is nothing more than scam to the public. If they are misusing public money , manipulate statistic and doing illegal practice that is not open to the public, it is no difference than con-man. To think that there is no Ong Teng Chong to do the check and balance, that is how frightening the gov can be, giving a false sense of assurance to the general public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; I do not know how do we do a survey with regards to the loss by Temasek,&#8221;</p>
<p>True enough it is another topic. But from another perspective, it is indirectly linked. How much accountability Temasek has towards the general public (as it is using large pool of public reserve too) also affect how we feel of Singapore as a nation. For we know that whole Singapore is run as monarchy and which high official benefit greatly from the structure regardless of whether loss and gain, whereas the citizens are made to pay for their honest mistake and share little when they gain, how well can we feel it as a nation ? </p>
<p>&#8221; I do not know how do we do a survey with regards to the loss by Temasek,&#8221;<br />
It is pointless to do a survey anyway where our instinct tell us Temasek is nothing more than scam to the public. If they are misusing public money , manipulate statistic and doing illegal practice that is not open to the public, it is no difference than con-man. To think that there is no Ong Teng Chong to do the check and balance, that is how frightening the gov can be, giving a false sense of assurance to the general public.</p>
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		<title>By: mice is nice</title>
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		<dc:creator>mice is nice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi KopitiamApek,

the truth is in the words unspoken! besides can we really trust everyone? sounds like voting...  

-.-&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi KopitiamApek,</p>
<p>the truth is in the words unspoken! besides can we really trust everyone? sounds like voting&#8230;  </p>
<p>-.-&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mice is nice</title>
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		<dc:creator>mice is nice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi KopitiamApek,

some things ask also won&#039;t get the truth, things like this, its the silence that speaks the loudest!!

^.^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi KopitiamApek,</p>
<p>some things ask also won&#8217;t get the truth, things like this, its the silence that speaks the loudest!!</p>
<p>^.^</p>
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		<title>By: KopitiamApek</title>
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		<dc:creator>KopitiamApek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>95) Daniel 

Noted your comments. But that is another topic alttogether. Wherea the post #93 was suggesting a survey to see if Singapoerans consider SG a nation or not a nation, I do not know how do we do a survey with regards to the loss by Temasek,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>95) Daniel </p>
<p>Noted your comments. But that is another topic alttogether. Wherea the post #93 was suggesting a survey to see if Singapoerans consider SG a nation or not a nation, I do not know how do we do a survey with regards to the loss by Temasek,</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 10:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;that is mere speculation, unless and until the survey is done , we do not know.&quot;
Even if the survey is done and is positive, what can be done anyway ?

Last time, there is a lot of speculation on the loss of Temasek, and the loss finally report out from the horse&#039;s mouth, so in the end, all still gonna move on, the father, the son and the jinx still live happily after. So what is the point of wasting time doing survey if you already know the answer ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;that is mere speculation, unless and until the survey is done , we do not know.&#8221;<br />
Even if the survey is done and is positive, what can be done anyway ?</p>
<p>Last time, there is a lot of speculation on the loss of Temasek, and the loss finally report out from the horse&#8217;s mouth, so in the end, all still gonna move on, the father, the son and the jinx still live happily after. So what is the point of wasting time doing survey if you already know the answer ?</p>
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		<title>By: KopitiamApek</title>
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		<dc:creator>KopitiamApek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 09:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You point of view is noted too. 
But I am sure you have to agree that it may not be represenattion of the view of all in SG.
I agree the need for those billboards and posters of politicians are debatable. I personally do not agree with having them for National Day.

///An independent survey may show ~ 50% of citizens do not consider S’pore a nation. So, what national celebration are we talking about with a divided people ?////
are we a divided people?
that is mere speculation, unless and until the survey is done , we do not know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You point of view is noted too.<br />
But I am sure you have to agree that it may not be represenattion of the view of all in SG.<br />
I agree the need for those billboards and posters of politicians are debatable. I personally do not agree with having them for National Day.</p>
<p>///An independent survey may show ~ 50% of citizens do not consider S’pore a nation. So, what national celebration are we talking about with a divided people ?////<br />
are we a divided people?<br />
that is mere speculation, unless and until the survey is done , we do not know.</p>
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		<title>By: PAP, FamiLee day</title>
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		<dc:creator>PAP, FamiLee day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 08:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If one considers 9th Aug as celebrating PAP day or FamiLee day, then those billboards and posters are necessary. 

An independent survey may show ~ 50% of citizens do not consider S&#039;pore a nation. So, what national celebration are we talking about with a divided people ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If one considers 9th Aug as celebrating PAP day or FamiLee day, then those billboards and posters are necessary. </p>
<p>An independent survey may show ~ 50% of citizens do not consider S&#8217;pore a nation. So, what national celebration are we talking about with a divided people ?</p>
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