There is, of course, no need to ape everything Singapore does. After all, according to a former president of Indonesia, it is no more than a red dot on the map! Besides, there is no way Malaysians or Penangites can pay the chief executives of the government what Singaporeans are paying their prime minister and ministers.
Retired academic Dr Goh Ban Lee, in an article for Malaysian paper The Sun.
I doubt you will receive any reply directly from T.
We did not receive any reply from LDS, T and people like this.
Guess they like to Tell us a story and that is also the End of story. kekekeke
1-WAY Communication is funny.
Here are ten Lessons that Malaysia can learn from Singapore:
1. To be boastful that it is the First World country.
2. To be conceited that its leaders are the best in the whole world and that is why they are paid the world’s highest salaries and bonuses.
3. To self-praise all the time, even when others are mocking them no end.
4. To be thick-skinned and shameless when collecting millions of dollars in salaries and bonuses from taxpayers” money.
5. To be arrogant and always belittling other countries’ leaders and their performance.
6. To suppress all forms of dissent and opposition to the government under all sorts of reasons and excuses.
7. To pass laws that help to suppress the populace like changing under-wears.
8. To side-step taking responsibility when some blunders happened.
9. To refused to account for the huge losses of public funds through bad judgment and poor performances.
10. To keep as much things secret from the public as possible so that they people will not be able to question much about the performance of every ministry and their leaders.
Hey, has anyone here seen the commentary on today’s Straitstimes that suggested US should pay their Secretaries and President the equivalents of Singapore’s salaries?
#49 – Yah. The Klang FTZ epitomizes what it means to be in political office of the UMNO kind: multi-million $$$ contracts to party cadre is like paying themselves obscene sums of money. Makes a fool out of malaysia and malaysians.
Between million-$ salaries to few ‘good’ men and day-light robbery of the Malaysian-kind, I guess I’ll settle for the lesser evil.
LKY once said that the best and most intelligent Americans are in business while the second best go into politics. They get the highest compensations and they make their country prosperous. This may be one of the reasons why he pays his ministers high salaries to attract the scholars and the successful professionals to work for the PAP so that he don’t end up with the second best Singaporeans.
When “a wise man once said, he was / is one of the highest paid politician in SE Asia, but one of the poorest”, he is implying that leaders in other countries enrich themselves much more while in office but which is impossible in Singapore. Politicians around the whole world fight hard to get into parliaments while the PAP has to induce them with the highest salaries in the world.
The best and most intelligent Americans also created this world financial disaster which Temasek and GIC will remember for a long time.
53) Walau on June 20th, 2009 10.02 pm
Why would you settle for it if there is ‘evil’ (your word)?
Why would you not FIX the problem You mentioned?
Does 2 of a kind ….. ?
You know what I would do?
I would do what is right to make it BETTER.
By what you doing, can you make things BETTER?
I am not sure if you could give me a convincing rebuttal.
Malaysia can learn from Singapore’s strong dollar and make up for the lost decades by pegging the ringgit to the Sing dollar at 1 to 1. That should stop the jam at the causeway overnight.
Malaysia should confer the new title of “MM” to Tun Dr Mahathir and then appoint him as the permanent Ambassadors to Nth Korea. Najib will then have no problem selling sand to Singapore.
errata: “Malaysia should confer the new title of “MM” to Tun Dr Mahathir and then appoint him as the permanent Ambassador to Nth Korea.”
/// 49) john on June 20th, 2009 1.28 pm
‘The Klang FTZ saw RM12.5 billion disappeared into thin air – how many ministers they can pay at RM10 million per year for how many years with that kind of money? Go and work out the arithmetic.’ T @37
So this is justification for our Ministers to be paid obscenely? ///
John@49, before we can have a meaningful and mature discussion, please go and read the Sun article provided in the link. Do not quote or rebut me out of context. At the very last sentence of that article, is this quote below:
/// Besides, there is no way Malaysians or Penangites can pay the chief executives of the government what Singaporeans are paying their prime minister and ministers. ///
That is why I made that statement. Malaysia can damn well pay their ministers much higher than what Singapore pay its ministers. And I suggest RM10 milllion per minister per year and there will still be plenty left over if only leakages like the Port Klang FZ does not happen. And that is not counting the hundreds of billions from Petronas that has disappeared.
My point to those who cannot see the forest for the trees – is it better to pay minister inadequately and they resort to lining their pockets? You save millions per year in salary costs, but the country lost billions through corruption and white elephant projects whose only raison d’etre is to provide huge commissions for the proposers.
Before you guys starting attacking me again. Read my post carefully. I am also against the high ministerial and civil service pay. The key point is “adequate”. My view is – in Singapore’s case – it is way way above more than adequate. So, get off your high horse and debate the issue without emotion and misconstruing what I said.
John – which line did I write that lead you to conclude that I justify their high pay or that I agree to the high pay? I am totally against this obscenely high pay. If you want to pay ministers like investment bankers from Lehman Brothers and Morgan Stanley, well, when they don’t deliver or they screw up – then they are out, just like in the private sector. But for civil servants and ministers, do we see such “hire and fire” actions? Hardly. They have the best of both worlds – an iron, (no, make that platinum) rice bowl and obscene investment banker pay.
So, I hope your pinch of salt is miserly now.
58) T
///before we can have a meaningful and mature discussion, please go and read the Sun article provided in the link. Do not quote or rebut me out of context. ////
Unfortunately, TOC is infested with such replies that are emotional, irrational, out of context.
Just watch what happens to me after this post : )
More misguided misslies coming my way in the from of replies.
They are not worthy of a reply.
Thanks KopitiamApek. I agree with what you say about most of the replies here – which is why I am not eager to contribute here as most of them just go off tangent.
Greetings from another ulu kampong apek.
ah pek, you lonely or what?
LOL. I think ah pek attempting damage control to his brain.LOL
60) T
Stick around though.
There are posters here that are very good. I learnt from them. And one can get quite good discussion here too.
I have had my fair share of bashing here, been asked to get lost too. Do not let a few black sheep here make you go away. These sheeps come disquised in multiple nick names that changes faster than one changes underwear.
I do not give them the attention they crave for. Stonewalling them drive them up the wall.
Let them throw their tamtrum.
We focus on our discussions.
ah pek, you poured hot coffee on people and here you are, trying to justify your “holier than thou” attitude…how can? you take common folks as fools or what?
60) T
Observe as the very predictable unfolds before your very eyes. ; )
also see http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/singapore-the-modern-middle-kingdom/ #64
talk about going off tangent, this reply went way off tangent into a parallel universe !
This ah pek got no shame. LOL
yeah, but he is very proud of his “parallel universe”. hahaha
For Malaysia to learn or ape Singapore will make the Malaysian looks like copycat and silly. They would rather wisely enjoy their God given resources, fair weather to watch butterflies and smell the flowers. They will not want to see and watch their neigbours slog like their water buffaloes too, so they built the IDR and maybe hospices and retirement villages to save their neighbours from further miseries in their old age.
Anyway, whilst Malaysia may not have to learn from Singapore, Singaporean Netizens should be as objective, knowledgeable and peaceful as KopitiamApek, he is certainly admirable, at least ah so does lovingly looks forward to his comments. Although his comments are not very constructive, there are much facts and statistics in them. Of course, I do expect many to be very skeptical of them.
so the ah soh, taleban trained, comes in and speak “peace” whose words are neither peaceful actually, but an indirect stab at others for not complying to taleban rules of assault?
68) ah soh
Thank you.
one supporter out of 4 over million people. i am happy for you :)
X,
The others are hiding in his “parallel universe” lah. lol
hi Arix, on June 20th, 2009 9.38 pm
////Hey, has anyone here seen the commentary on today’s Straitstimes that suggested US should pay their Secretaries and President the equivalents of Singapore’s salaries?////
yes i have. they are out of their mind.
you gotta wait for the ah peks facts and statistics to come out before you comment ok?
Ah-pek and ah soh will be joining up in holy matrimony soon, with the looks of it.
Hi mice is nice #73,
You gotta be kidding me. High cabinet pay is not one of Singapore’s good aspects. Those commentaries are taking the debate on obscene ministerial salaries to a completely new and obscene level.
AhPek,
you drink too much kopi liao. I no fren u liao.
68) ah soh
/// They will not want to see and watch their neigbours slog like their water buffaloes///
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a08A7lDjTFE
and IDR must also provide for cemeteries for Singaporeans, as we are already vertical stacking our dead at Choa Chu Kang.
77)T. – that is not very nice trying to pass off as somebody else. You love period/ Period.
79) T
Wolves in sheep’s clothing come disquised in multiple nicknames that changes faster than one changes underwear.
You can identify them as likely to be the same person by the close timing of the posts.
Be prepared to meet T: T@ T= T% and many of its variants.
But these wolves do not have much of a bite. More like mosquitoes they are irritating, but you cannot never completely get rid of them.
KopitiamApek,
I do not see any problem as far as cemetries are concerned in Malaysia.
As a Chinese, non burial (into the earth) does bothers me, ‘ru tu wei an’, loosely translated meaning burial concludes ones’ ending successfully with Nature. I consider back to Nature important but not hanging in the air or stack on one another as You described.
Can’t explain why I have the queer feeling, just dislike to see and feel the remain(ashes/bones) not being returned to earth for recycling. Please forgive me here as I won’t be able to proceed further with the subject of burial. As I said it is just a feeling which I have no explanation.
Surprise that KopitiamApek brought up such a topic, so may I ask him if he finds ‘vertical stacking’ odd or unacceptable ??
KopitiamApek,
thank You very much for the Video Clip. You made me feel young again, but not sexy.
Good Night !
81) ah soh
///Surprise that KopitiamApek brought up such a topic, so may I ask him if he finds ‘vertical stacking’ odd or unacceptable ??///
Honestly, I have not put much tought into that, but being placed inside a jar could feel like a genie trapped in a magic lamp. Perhaps throwing ashes in the sea would be a another option, letting the spirit be free.
ahpek, you heng got chickenshit protect you here.
i suppose, shithead like you will get you way as long as shithead believe your kind of crap or ….cloaked attitude huh?
@ 51) Lessons from Singapore,
clever post indeed !
The 10 lessons from S’pore should be a gift to the world and not just Malaysia.
May I include lesson number 11, putting in place a fake democratic system.
81) ah soh
///Surprise that KopitiamApek brought up such a topic, so may I ask him if he finds ‘vertical shacking’ odd or unacceptable ??///
Honestly, I have not put much tought into that, but being placed inside condom could feel like my didi trapped in a magic lamp. Perhaps jerking off in the sea would be a another option, letting the cok be free.
TOC
thanks for removing the offensive post
TOC
correction. You did not remove the offensive post.
so much for self regulation