i can do a point for point rebuttal, but i do not need to, you are not even slightly keen on a dialogue. is it any wonder why i am not the only one picking on your points.

makes me wonder why you are so defensive? you have brought up facts to defend your points, but will not face facts that contradicts your views.

for your info, i am not playing the Christian card & i have no personal quarrel with any Christians. are you shooting from the hips or is that a fact? If you fired from the hip, you better retract and stop talking like you know me personally- cos you do not.

Really? Is that firing from hip or a fact? If you fired from hip, you better retract and stop maligning SPPA.

If it’s a fact, can you support it? I’ll thank you in advance for the alert. Once confirmed, I will publicly let parents know that SPPA is to be on the watchlist as much as AWARE.

The rest of us are focusing on media bias and some have found hint of pro-gay messages in Singapore Planned Parenthood Association’s CSE.
They are busy writing letters and trying to find out more about SPPA’s CSE.
Yet u are still harping on old issues that no one is interested.

I can understand that gays are frustrated because they darling CSE has been dustbinned by non other than Dr Ng Eng Hen.

So for all the up play by ST and pro-gay blogs onTSM, it still cannot drown the fact that 7000 straights influenced MOE that Aware’s CSE is the MAIN issue at hand, and not TSM.

Please note that Iswaran told TSM to get her facts right. That shows that TSM is NOT the factor MOE considered.

But when 7000 straights told MOE to get into the act, MOE kicked your darling CSE and flushed it down the toilet bowl.

Keep living in delusion.

Keep believing that TSM is the issue, while CSE is not.

Of course you’re lost. You are selective.

If you can imply that singles sign up for the petition for support of removal of AWARE’s CSE even they are not parents and that is herd instinct, then can I not say that non-gays who support gays follow herd instinct too?

Sarek,

So what if the pro-gay blogs highlight TSM? In fact it proves my point. While the public is concerned about AWARE’s rubbish CSE, these blogs keep highlighting TSM!

Thanks for putting up the TOC links. You confirmed that pro-gay blogs are playing up the Christian card.

Yiou are so subjective. LOL. Blogs report the saga highlight the fact that Thio Christian Rights are up to no good and moderate Christians had raised to speak up against them online and at EGM.

When will you wake up, solo!!!

Sorry, I seem to have lost the thread. What’s the connection between sheep and Alex Au, Siew Kum Hong and ‘self-proclaimed non-gays who say they support the gay cause’?

Incidentally, do non-gays need to ‘self-proclaim’ their sexual oreintation? Does that mean those who do not ‘self-proclaim’ are gays?

So I take that non-gays who support gays follow herd instinct too?

Good. Next time ask Alex Au to stand for NMP to bring up the S377A issue instead of herd follower Siew Kum Hong, who has no business to talk on behalf of gays.

Ditto for all self-proclaimed non-gays who say they support the gay cause like Mr Wang from mrwangsaysso because they are just herd followers.

Agree?

Quit playing the Christian card. The public is more interested in AWARE’s gay agenda than your petty quarrel with Christians.

>>7000+ signatures? i wonder if a background check would yield people who signed more than once, parents who’s children already left school or not in the age group subjected to the CSE (or similiar) program yet.
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If you take the stance that non-parents should not support parents with school going children, then you should tell the likes of Kum Hong to butt off when he tries to help the gay community, no?

>>its a fact Dr Thio did not even feedback to MOE regarding the program. she tweddled her thumb for a year before deciding to take covert action by mobilizing others to do her bidding, using her religious influence.
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It is a fact that the public is NOT INTERESTED in Thio’s dispute with AWARE. The public is interested in AWARE’s gay agenda and its covert attempt to penetrate schools.

>>after viewing the clip on Josie’s press conference i can say she really did not want to be part of it. but being related to Dr Thio she must have found it hard to say no. furthermore their religious link.
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Keep flogging the dead horse. It will never get up and move. The horse that is alive and kicking is AWARE’s gay agenda.

“So what if single people signed that petition too? That shows that even singles saw that AWARE was up to no good. ”

Don’t kid yourself. Sheep follow the herd instinct; they do not see or think. If they get rabid and start a stampede, it’s best to get out of their way. MOE got out of their way.

ST pro-gay?

it is you who are so anti gay.

the black sheeps are the 1s responsible for tarring the majority of the Christian community.

7000+ signatures? i wonder if a background check would yield people who signed more than once, parents who’s children already left school or not in the age group subjected to the CSE (or similiar) program yet.

its a fact Dr Thio did not even feedback to MOE regarding the program. she tweddled her thumb for a year before deciding to take covert action by mobilizing others to do her bidding, using her religious influence.

after viewing the clip on Josie’s press conference i can say she really did not want to be part of it. but being related to Dr Thio she must have found it hard to say no. furthermore their religious link.

Please kid yourself not. If not for the 7000+ signatures and/or parents’ concern, MOE would have done NOTHING.

Iswaran himself said to get “your facts right” to TSM, only to have his own butt kicked, when it turned out that homo was propagated in AWARE’s CSE. MOE had to make an embarrassing U-turn after 7000+ signatures was presented to them.

Accept the fact that the hot issue is Aware’s gay agenda and nothing to do with Christianity, that MOE saw it fit to flush Aware’s CSE down the toilet bowl.

So what if single people signed that petition too? That shows that even singles saw that AWARE was up to no good.

However, using your argument can you say that Siew Kum Hong, a known hetero who supported gays, is a fake?

Errata – And I have Christian SINGLE friends who signed that petition and on NO more evidence than that their bible study group said they should.

“Please do not forget the 7000+ signatories of parents asking Aware’s CSE to be removed. Please do not forget that it was this action that got MOE to remove the CSE. ”

The MInister challenged concerned parents worried about the CSE to contact his Ministry to discuss it with his officials. Do you actually think the MOE really bought a petition signed online by anonymous people who might not be parents at all? And I have Christian SINGLE friends who signed that petition and on more evidence than that their bible study group said they should.

Thanks for putting up the TOC links. You confirmed that pro-gay blogs are playing up the Christian card.

Fearandignorance,

Please do not forget the 7000+ signatories of parents asking Aware’s CSE to be removed. Please do not forget that it was this action that got MOE to remove the CSE.

The Christian vs secular dispute was NEVER a factor considered in the removal of the CSE.

Gays should WAKE UP from their slumber. Stop playing the religion card when it is all about gay invasion in schools.