I am a student (limited budget) and have seen a few offers for free ipods and iphones. Does anyone Know if any if the free IPhone or Ipod offers are actually legit? I don’t want to waste my time filling out a hundred surveys and was hoping to hear from someone who may have had some success with this.

Thanks

Peace,

But all truth will be revealed and the wrong doer will have to face the music even if he is already dead!

Like this, no one will be able to pre-bug anything in the room. i mean no one will be able to pre-emptive strike.

It is good to learnt that you do not have hate in you.

Quote you: “Hate wears you down, and does not hurt your enemy. It is like taking poison and wishing your enemy would die.
We all have struggled with these feelings many times.”

How did you come to the conclusion that I have so much hate in me????? You & the people you support may have “struggled with these feelings”, but please don’t anyhow lump me in.

I may not like or support people who have zero conscience but it does not stop me enjoying my family and my life within my own means. Why would it “wear me down”? Do you take it that all who criticise the system have lots of hate and are worn down?

Its like if I see the rich robbing from the poor and yet promoting their own ‘good’ deeds, I will put in a few words of observation as a bystander given the chance. Moreover though I am living well today, we never know when I may become a victim of the system.

Thanks for the advice but I think you need it more for yourself.

Hate wears you down, and does not hurt your enemy. It is like taking poison and wishing your enemy would die.

We all have struggled with these feelings many times.

Do reflect on this Cherokee Legend:

An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. “A fight is going on inside me,” he said to the boy.
“It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. Sometimes, it is hard to live with these two wolves inside me, for both of them try to dominate my spirit.

One is evil – he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego. He is full of anger. The littlest thing will set him into a fit of temper. He fights everyone, all the time, for no reason. He cannot think because his anger and hate are so great. It is helpless anger,for his anger will change nothing.”

He continued,

“The other is good – he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. He lives in harmony with all around him, and does not take offense when no offense was intended. He will only fight when it is right to do so, and in the right way.

The same fight is going on inside you – and inside every other person, too.”

The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, “Which wolf will win?”

The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.”

I found the word for why people do not tend to praise their bosses (Govt incl). The latter have a different agenda or motives for doing ‘good’ things. So you can look quite stupid in their eyes (or others eyes) for praising their ‘good efforts’. You can say ‘thank you’ but to say eg ‘The boss is sooooo good, he provides coffee & tea’ is quite shallow. The boss provides them because a break makes the worker work better.

Pls read my 2nd paragraph, 2nd line: “I am one who will easily praise anyone who works for me or with me,…” This includes maids, cleaners, public road sweepers whatever their colour or creed. If I receive good service from a civil servant, I will also praise them, its quite different from praising the Govt in public forums.

Anyway what will praises for Govt do to improve Spore? If it is as an encouragement to do better, don’t forget their biggest motivation is their big fat pay. If it is to show appreciation, I thought it is the other way round. They are voted in by the people, so they better do the right things.

Nevertheless, the biggest problem is people not trust the Govt? On the surface they give you nice things (carrots), at the back they take away every little you have. So how to praise the Govt for the good things?

Praising the boss (I think you are refering to apple polishing, correct?)and praising when good work is done is quite different.
We praise from our heart when we receive good service, as in my examples in my earlier post.

Does your principle include no praises for the people in the examples I quoted, the maid, the cleaners?

We are straying away from the important topic re: Operation Spectrum, but I need to address your insistence on praising the Govt.

I should have asked if you are one who look for things to praise your boss? I know the Govt is not your boss but they, like your boss, are in the position to do you big favours that others can’t. I am one who will easily praise anyone who works for me or with me, but find it difficult to praise those above me. I will have respect for my boss or the right Govt who deserve my respect and will demonstrate my loyalty but not openly praise in writing or speech.

If you do not cringe hearing or reading people’s public praises their bosses or the Govt (in earshot or eyeshot of them), thats your own principle. Others (me incl) have our own principles.

P/s: No thanks for the shaver, every hair has its purpose and I will leave them alone.

further re blogging seminar – we were told you will be putting up a website with all info and speech entries – is this going to happen? thanks a lot and all the best G

\\\\46) AngelVision

and one more thing, do your self a good therapeutic favour

list down honestly 20 good things this gahmen has done for you….////

then could you do the same for 20 Good Reasons contributing to the need for Strong Opposition for check and balance?

///- Where else can frustrated citizens do their ranting and Govt bashing without being thrown into IMH or sued till bankrupt?///

I have posted on this before. TOC as an oulet to vent frustration has its merits.
But this should not be the only thing tht happens in TOC lah.