Comments on: SM Goh meet Myanmar top leadership

By: Simon Ng

Simon Ng — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 02:44:13 +0000

It is reasonable to agree that different people see things in different perspective,this I agree and have nothing to say.

It is wrong to assume that people who do not agree with you know nothing about Myanmar,Socrates,you should not so this.

Of course I have been to Myanmar more than 20 times,and some of my relatives are Burmese,but is that so important to prove that I know nothing about Myanmar?

Socrates,I respect yr view,I would fight to my death to have you say this thing,in and out of Myanmar,although I totally disagree with you.

And I wish I could say the same thing for Myanmar,pray that this could happen.

By: To 19

To 19 — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:16:27 +0000

“Democracy too hastily introduced will bring misery to the Burmese people”

just 1 sentence for you: you cannot prove what you say. yes, you can say what you want to say. but you cannot prove what you say is true. That is what you choose to belief.

By: Thinktok

Thinktok — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:26:54 +0000

16) Amazed.
I lived in Komin Kochin Rd for many years. My girlfriend is Aye Mya Mya Aung. Can you help locate for me? As to the places you mentioned, been there more than once, up the arakan yoma and north to Imphal and Kohima too, smoking burmese cheeroot watching the wild geese flying in the sunset. Been to Sandoway now named changed to Sithwe. Sailed from Ngapali Bay to Akyap and then down the Tanaserim coast to Mergui.

Of course shan states, Taungyi and Inle Lake including Myikina too. Burmese Kyats and FECs. Rangoon to Mandalay by train, slipped on beetle nut spit, ferry down the Irrawaddy, oh all too many memories.

Prayed at Shwedagon Pagoda for Peace.

All these adds up to nothing if we don’t look at the sitution in Burma objectively and with a true desire to solve their problem.

Democracy too hastily introduced will bring misery to the Burmese people.

By: Common Sense

Common Sense — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:56:45 +0000

The elite weathier class will always support the status quo. –and we know why. It happens in kim north korea, Idi amin uganda, Suharto indonesia, marcos phillipines ,hitler germany,papa-doc duvalier Haiti etc etc—please learn from history.
Once in a while in history we have a French revolution or a people-power phillipines.
Dictatorships never last–they are gone in either one generation or two.

By: A&E

A&E — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:27:49 +0000

Amazed,

Good to know you are Burmese. Had a Burmese friend once (lost contact). I asked him his stand on the whole detention of Daw Aung San Suu Kyi situation, whether he supported the regime or the NLD. His reply was somewhat shocking. He said that most members of the wealthier Burmese (of which class it seemed he was from) prefer to see the status quo preserved, as it was good for business. I wonder, is that really the consensus among the wealthier class? What are your thoughts on such a reply?

By: Amazed

Amazed — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:18:59 +0000

Thinktok, I want to ask have you ever been to Myanmar in the first place? How much of Myanmar do you know? Can you even name the capital of Myanmar? Where is Mandalay? Where is Pegu? Where is Namataung National Park? Where is Bagan, Kachin and the Shan States? Can you name the currency of Myanmar? Which is the longest river in Myanmar? If you cannot even answer any of these questions and if your answer to the first is “no”, you have no right to write the way you have written.

I am a Burmese and I have a vested interest in the outcome!

By: Socrates

Socrates — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:40:48 +0000

12) Simon Ng
Killing whether rightly or wrongly goes on all the time. I quite accept it that it cannot be controlled. My duty is to make sure that my throat is not cut.

It is pointless to say this General kill and that General kill. All generals are trained to kill. Remember General Patton: ‘ You win the war by not dying for your country but by making the bastard die for his country.’ So please, it is either kill or be killed. If you are living a cushy life that is your perogative. BTW Simon have you step foot on Burma??

I would say that many Burnese citizens died clashing with the military. But i will not be so irresponsible to conclude like you did that the Generals murder their citizens.

Even if it happened, it is not worse than Americans killing Iraqis and Japanese killing Chinese. It is an internal affair.

By: Simon Ng

Simon Ng — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:45:12 +0000

I see someone defending the murderous Generals of the junta vigorously,that is the good point of a free and fair media,thanks to internet.

I am sure that joker would agree with me that the methods by those murderers are not that right considering he is using the freedom to express his view here which I respect but totally disagree.

I wonder whether he wants to disputh with me the Generals did murder their citizens,all in the name of overall national interest of course,a phase used by ALL politicans frequently enough whether fr left/right,east or west.HeHe

By: Loyola

Loyola — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 05:04:31 +0000

Thinktok,

The role of the Burmese military in keeping law and order can be argued to be effective pre-Than Shwe, however, it is not the sole factor in ensuring state stability in the long term.

Do look at the larger military-civil relations picture today, before you would claim in jest otherwise.

By: asking only for honesty

asking only for honesty — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 04:37:56 +0000

singapore leaders value system very integrity hor.

By: Kangolees

Kangolees — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 02:38:38 +0000

What has Obama got to say about these dealings huh?
I mean, he is free to give his opinion right, being a free man?
Obama, Yes ! we can!!!

By: jarjar

jarjar — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:12:39 +0000

Thinktok is so lame.

“The Junta are Burmese and surely they love their motherland and will not want to bring harm or disrepute to Burma.” lolx

What you missing on your absurd reasoning is that “neither everyone loves their mother land nor avoid to bring harm on it.”

By: Thinktok

Thinktok — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:36:07 +0000

To Dancing caveman, If you can’t understand the role of the Military in keeping peace and order in Burma, I suggest you go and read too. If you don’t like my view just don’t read.

By: GABRIEL

GABRIEL — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:13:17 +0000

At least, the West is giving Suu Kyi a modicum of support. And why shouldn’t the West do so?
She was married to an Englishman, who is the father of their two sons, who are half-English.
Thank God, the West takes cognition of this fact and is lending her its support at a time when she is dire need of any help she can get.

By: dancing caveman

dancing caveman — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 03:22:56 +0000

“Trust the Military. It is Burma’s best hope.”

O_o

Quote of the day. Thinktok, go read some Burmese history, no actually, just go read before you touch your keyboard again. Now back away from it, slowly.

By: 666

666 — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 02:27:14 +0000

report to me of any dissent in singapore or else i withdraw my laundered money.

By: bodesonema

bodesonema — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:26:09 +0000

to thinktok, how much do u know about myanmar military and daw su kyi ,i just want to tell u that junta are not love their motherland . they lonly love themselves and their power ,u really don’t know that how burmese people are starving and crying everyday except junta .only god knows.

By: kingrant

kingrant — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:41:02 +0000

Whyis he visiting them and talking to them? Suu Kyi was legitimately elected in popular elections and she was not allowed to form the govt. What makes goh think that next time around will be any different? As usual, the meek and cowardly approach of Singapore govt towards such matters reflect the same half-heartedness and disinterest with which they deal with human rights issues in Singapore.

By: honorary junta member

honorary junta member — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:27:51 +0000

Lau Goh is assuring the Burmese Junta their money parked in S’pore is safe, no worries, not affected by GIC or Temasek.

As for free and fair elections, Lau Goh can show them how to engineer a victory despite adverse odds. The deeply grateful Burmese junta will then make him a honorary junta member.
Landmines, cluster bombs, political detention centre can be named after Goh.

By: Thinktok

Thinktok — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:39:50 +0000

Mr Goh should not sound too parental when talking to the Burmese generals. What does he mean by elections must be free and fair? Does he mean that it can be not free and not fair? When he say that it means that the Bumese are capable of being not free and not fair. That is not right.

Leave them alone. They know their problem best. Su Kyii is a pawn of the West. Su Kyii may not solve Burma’s problem. If Su Kyii is loyal to his father, first she should not cause so much problem to the Junta. Secontd she should not look towards Western support.

The Junta are Burmese and surely they love their motherland and will not want to bring harm or disrepute to Burma.

Trust the Military. It is Burma’s best hope.

I am not Burmese neither do I have any interest whatever the outcome.