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		<title>By: TOC &#8211; a community of Singaporeans &#124; The Online Citizen</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/the-art-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-124198</link>
		<dc:creator>TOC &#8211; a community of Singaporeans &#124; The Online Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] successful events in May of 2009 &#8211; the blogging seminar which saw a full house turn-out. (See here and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Citizen Journalism.sg &#187; Welcome</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/the-art-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-107243</link>
		<dc:creator>Citizen Journalism.sg &#187; Welcome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Report: For a report on the blogging seminar, click here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: To Apek</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/the-art-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-79105</link>
		<dc:creator>To Apek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 03:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you have replied, didn&#039;t you. 

As for responding to a more &quot;rational matured reply&quot; (your definition ?), please do. We do need people like you around to provide variety. Else, it will be too one sided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you have replied, didn&#8217;t you. </p>
<p>As for responding to a more &#8220;rational matured reply&#8221; (your definition ?), please do. We do need people like you around to provide variety. Else, it will be too one sided.</p>
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		<title>By: socrates</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/the-art-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-78936</link>
		<dc:creator>socrates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why didnt students participate? Were they prevented from doing so?Why?
How come change of venue??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why didnt students participate? Were they prevented from doing so?Why?<br />
How come change of venue??</p>
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		<title>By: KopitiamApek</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/the-art-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-78934</link>
		<dc:creator>KopitiamApek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#27

Dear Mr.hiding-behind-so-manynicks
Your personal jibes and tantrum throwing continues. I will respond to a more rational matured reply, when you provide one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#27</p>
<p>Dear Mr.hiding-behind-so-manynicks<br />
Your personal jibes and tantrum throwing continues. I will respond to a more rational matured reply, when you provide one.</p>
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		<title>By: TOC rocks</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/the-art-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-78821</link>
		<dc:creator>TOC rocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i meant, taught constitutional law very well. (though i think he co wrote a book with thio li annie). lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i meant, taught constitutional law very well. (though i think he co wrote a book with thio li annie). lol.</p>
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		<title>By: TOC rocks</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/the-art-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-78820</link>
		<dc:creator>TOC rocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin Tan was my prof in uni. he&#039;s a very smart guy who taught constitutional law very law! amazing toc got him!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin Tan was my prof in uni. he&#8217;s a very smart guy who taught constitutional law very law! amazing toc got him!</p>
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		<title>By: To Apek</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/the-art-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-78774</link>
		<dc:creator>To Apek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;why the suddenly interest in my weaker and inferior views? Share with us your stronger &amp; superior viewpoints so that we all can learn.&quot;

well, after all this, you are still asking for it. have you not learned from the whacking. let the audience judge.

&quot;is your continued personal jibes necessary.&quot;

nothing personal. I do not even know you other than kopitiam apek. now, which kopitiam do you usually patronise ?

&quot;lastly, you may want to consider having a fixed nick rather than hiding behind so many nicks,&quot;

here I am only guided by TOC rules. if they feel that I am not suitable here, I simply need to get lost. only morons feel the need to be guided by your suggestions. you makes rules, you have to follow &amp; respect your rules also. go back and tell your kakis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;why the suddenly interest in my weaker and inferior views? Share with us your stronger &amp; superior viewpoints so that we all can learn.&#8221;</p>
<p>well, after all this, you are still asking for it. have you not learned from the whacking. let the audience judge.</p>
<p>&#8220;is your continued personal jibes necessary.&#8221;</p>
<p>nothing personal. I do not even know you other than kopitiam apek. now, which kopitiam do you usually patronise ?</p>
<p>&#8220;lastly, you may want to consider having a fixed nick rather than hiding behind so many nicks,&#8221;</p>
<p>here I am only guided by TOC rules. if they feel that I am not suitable here, I simply need to get lost. only morons feel the need to be guided by your suggestions. you makes rules, you have to follow &amp; respect your rules also. go back and tell your kakis.</p>
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		<title>By: KopitiamApek</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/the-art-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-78667</link>
		<dc:creator>KopitiamApek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 12:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>20) To Apek 

sorry typo....

///your supporting audience will give you more marks and your views will stay in their mind for a long time to come and may come in handy for future use. ///
are you the representattive voice for “your supporting audience?

lastly, you may want to consider having a fixed nick rather than hiding behind so many nicks,

thank you again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>20) To Apek </p>
<p>sorry typo&#8230;.</p>
<p>///your supporting audience will give you more marks and your views will stay in their mind for a long time to come and may come in handy for future use. ///<br />
are you the representattive voice for “your supporting audience?</p>
<p>lastly, you may want to consider having a fixed nick rather than hiding behind so many nicks,</p>
<p>thank you again</p>
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		<title>By: KopitiamApek</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/the-art-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-78666</link>
		<dc:creator>KopitiamApek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 12:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>20) To Apek 

///Really ? If you have stronger &amp; superior viewpoints, they will withstand the whacking - ///
are you saying that a different viewpoint from yours is thus weaker and inferior?


///your supporting audience will give you more marks and your views will stay in their mind for a long time to come and may come in handy for future use. ///
are the the representattive voice for &quot;your supporting audience?

/// your kopitiam wisdom ////
is your continued personal jibes necessary?

/// now tell me when the economy will recover - ///
why the suddenly interest in my weaker and inferior views? Share with us your  stronger &amp; superior viewpoints so that we all can learn

lastly, we may want to consider having a fixed nick rather than hiding behind so many nicks,

thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>20) To Apek </p>
<p>///Really ? If you have stronger &amp; superior viewpoints, they will withstand the whacking &#8211; ///<br />
are you saying that a different viewpoint from yours is thus weaker and inferior?</p>
<p>///your supporting audience will give you more marks and your views will stay in their mind for a long time to come and may come in handy for future use. ///<br />
are the the representattive voice for &#8220;your supporting audience?</p>
<p>/// your kopitiam wisdom ////<br />
is your continued personal jibes necessary?</p>
<p>/// now tell me when the economy will recover &#8211; ///<br />
why the suddenly interest in my weaker and inferior views? Share with us your  stronger &amp; superior viewpoints so that we all can learn</p>
<p>lastly, we may want to consider having a fixed nick rather than hiding behind so many nicks,</p>
<p>thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Upgrade the Downgrade</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/the-art-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-78664</link>
		<dc:creator>Upgrade the Downgrade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To #22,
Actually, i have been wondering,
what happens if 66.5 % vote for change?
Then by logic, change will come whatever change they want. Technically speaking. By this logic, there is no obstacle as anything is changeable. One tough cookie is the mindset. A man who thinks and believes he is a hum will become a hum. So far, by the above logic, what is CARVED IN STONE? Even mindset can change in a twinkling of an eye. If only the human mind allows it.

Feel free to correct me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To #22,<br />
Actually, i have been wondering,<br />
what happens if 66.5 % vote for change?<br />
Then by logic, change will come whatever change they want. Technically speaking. By this logic, there is no obstacle as anything is changeable. One tough cookie is the mindset. A man who thinks and believes he is a hum will become a hum. So far, by the above logic, what is CARVED IN STONE? Even mindset can change in a twinkling of an eye. If only the human mind allows it.</p>
<p>Feel free to correct me.</p>
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		<title>By: To Koh Jia Hwee</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/the-art-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-78589</link>
		<dc:creator>To Koh Jia Hwee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As said, for the next 10 years, at least, I do not see the people will adopt the use of their real names simply because this is not necessary nor is it practical nor safe for singaporeans.&quot;

You have said it yourself. Sad to say that after all these years in this country, simply because this is not necessary nor is it practical nor safe for singaporeans. With your name clearly stated (I assume it is your real name) and with such statement coming from you, it may enlighten our Apek.

&quot;Why worry about identities when it is known that via ISP and physical mac address or ip address information can be found about the reader? Is this understanding not correct?&quot;

True but in this sad country, why make things easier for them. They have to ask themselves what they are trying to prove with this and that control especially when it is not some grand crime that we are committing. 

&quot;So, it is possible but not now nor in the next 10 years At Least. There needs to be serious fundamental changes before people dare to reveal their names.&quot;

Mr. Koh (you deserve my respect), you have indeed revealed the sad truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As said, for the next 10 years, at least, I do not see the people will adopt the use of their real names simply because this is not necessary nor is it practical nor safe for singaporeans.&#8221;</p>
<p>You have said it yourself. Sad to say that after all these years in this country, simply because this is not necessary nor is it practical nor safe for singaporeans. With your name clearly stated (I assume it is your real name) and with such statement coming from you, it may enlighten our Apek.</p>
<p>&#8220;Why worry about identities when it is known that via ISP and physical mac address or ip address information can be found about the reader? Is this understanding not correct?&#8221;</p>
<p>True but in this sad country, why make things easier for them. They have to ask themselves what they are trying to prove with this and that control especially when it is not some grand crime that we are committing. </p>
<p>&#8220;So, it is possible but not now nor in the next 10 years At Least. There needs to be serious fundamental changes before people dare to reveal their names.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mr. Koh (you deserve my respect), you have indeed revealed the sad truth.</p>
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		<title>By: GABRIEL</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/the-art-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-78577</link>
		<dc:creator>GABRIEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 03:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I paid $500 to attend a one-day course on Social Media marketing techniques -- website content development, blogging, Facebook etc. Very interesting and very informative.
On the other hand, I paid $20 to attend the TOC blogging seminar. Good speakers, lots of content, good food too. Good value for money, for sure.
I look forward to more of such TOC seminars, especially those with how-to content on  blogging and all the rest - ninja/guerrilla tactics/techniques to provoke interest on the Net on key topics. This is a good skill to develop, considering that there are millions of websites, blogs on the Net, all clamouring for attention, with very few succeeding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I paid $500 to attend a one-day course on Social Media marketing techniques &#8212; website content development, blogging, Facebook etc. Very interesting and very informative.<br />
On the other hand, I paid $20 to attend the TOC blogging seminar. Good speakers, lots of content, good food too. Good value for money, for sure.<br />
I look forward to more of such TOC seminars, especially those with how-to content on  blogging and all the rest &#8211; ninja/guerrilla tactics/techniques to provoke interest on the Net on key topics. This is a good skill to develop, considering that there are millions of websites, blogs on the Net, all clamouring for attention, with very few succeeding.</p>
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		<title>By: Koh Jia Hwee</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/the-art-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-78565</link>
		<dc:creator>Koh Jia Hwee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 02:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;While we may be at the receiving end of not-so-good policies, we cannot fall back on individual accountability of those policy makers yet we need to disclose our identity if our noisy greivances are to have any credibility.&quot;

Agree with the 1st part.
But I think its the content that is more important than the author/commentor&#039;s name. Famous writers do not use their real names. Agree?

As said, for the next 10 years, at least, I do not see the people will adopt the use of their real names simply because this is not necessary nor is it practical nor safe for singaporeans.

Why worry about identities when it is known that via ISP and physical mac address or ip address information can be found about the reader? Is this understanding not correct? Also, I understand that Blogs, websites , forums can easily come with softwares that capture all sorts of surfing habits of readers. Can even analyse the writing style and sense who that reader under another nick is.

So, it is possible but not now nor in the next 10 years At Least. There needs to be serious fundamental changes before people dare to reveal their names.

Many comments in this Blog are constructive. But honestly, there need not be Any effect. We can lament why for a tiny population, there can be so many who never voted before or even more who did not vote in the last election. Lament. Lament. Lament. no use.

There is 1 consolation - no one can stop time. People come and go. Change is the only constant. Time is Relative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;While we may be at the receiving end of not-so-good policies, we cannot fall back on individual accountability of those policy makers yet we need to disclose our identity if our noisy greivances are to have any credibility.&#8221;</p>
<p>Agree with the 1st part.<br />
But I think its the content that is more important than the author/commentor&#8217;s name. Famous writers do not use their real names. Agree?</p>
<p>As said, for the next 10 years, at least, I do not see the people will adopt the use of their real names simply because this is not necessary nor is it practical nor safe for singaporeans.</p>
<p>Why worry about identities when it is known that via ISP and physical mac address or ip address information can be found about the reader? Is this understanding not correct? Also, I understand that Blogs, websites , forums can easily come with softwares that capture all sorts of surfing habits of readers. Can even analyse the writing style and sense who that reader under another nick is.</p>
<p>So, it is possible but not now nor in the next 10 years At Least. There needs to be serious fundamental changes before people dare to reveal their names.</p>
<p>Many comments in this Blog are constructive. But honestly, there need not be Any effect. We can lament why for a tiny population, there can be so many who never voted before or even more who did not vote in the last election. Lament. Lament. Lament. no use.</p>
<p>There is 1 consolation &#8211; no one can stop time. People come and go. Change is the only constant. Time is Relative.</p>
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		<title>By: To Apek</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/the-art-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-78559</link>
		<dc:creator>To Apek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 01:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Me too. I get wacked for my views often by pple who has use a dfferent name for each nasty reply to my posts, by from the writing style, one may deduce they are from the same person.&quot;

Really ? If you have stronger &amp; superior viewpoints, they will withstand the whacking - your supporting audience will give you more marks and your views will stay in their mind for a long time to come and may come in handy for future use. 

In the meantime, continue by bringing your kopitiam wisdom here so that our minds can stay open.

You seem to have pretty good deductions, now tell me when the economy will recover - many experts in the market have been giving conflicting viewpoints and our forecasts have been revised quite a no. of times also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Me too. I get wacked for my views often by pple who has use a dfferent name for each nasty reply to my posts, by from the writing style, one may deduce they are from the same person.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really ? If you have stronger &amp; superior viewpoints, they will withstand the whacking &#8211; your supporting audience will give you more marks and your views will stay in their mind for a long time to come and may come in handy for future use. </p>
<p>In the meantime, continue by bringing your kopitiam wisdom here so that our minds can stay open.</p>
<p>You seem to have pretty good deductions, now tell me when the economy will recover &#8211; many experts in the market have been giving conflicting viewpoints and our forecasts have been revised quite a no. of times also.</p>
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		<title>By: plopp</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/the-art-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-78558</link>
		<dc:creator>plopp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 01:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;While the event attracted a number of university students, Dr George expressed his disappointment that the workshop didn’t receive a response from secondary school and junior college students. &quot;

Um, maybe because secondary school students generally need their parents to agree to let them come, and most secondary school students&#039; parents think blogging is frivolous....?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;While the event attracted a number of university students, Dr George expressed his disappointment that the workshop didn’t receive a response from secondary school and junior college students. &#8221;</p>
<p>Um, maybe because secondary school students generally need their parents to agree to let them come, and most secondary school students&#8217; parents think blogging is frivolous&#8230;.?</p>
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		<title>By: 17 To Jackson Tan  #16</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/the-art-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-78512</link>
		<dc:creator>17 To Jackson Tan  #16</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I thought this was a respectable showing given that singaporeans appear to be Less Interested in Unemployment issues than Blogging in cyberspace based on the even lower turnout of 20 last month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I thought this was a respectable showing given that singaporeans appear to be Less Interested in Unemployment issues than Blogging in cyberspace based on the even lower turnout of 20 last month.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson Tan</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/the-art-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-78508</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The roll of speakers were actually rather impressive: Cherian George, Alex Au, November Tan, Kevin Tan... but the participating numbers - 60 - seems to be a bit on the low end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The roll of speakers were actually rather impressive: Cherian George, Alex Au, November Tan, Kevin Tan&#8230; but the participating numbers &#8211; 60 &#8211; seems to be a bit on the low end.</p>
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		<title>By: KopitiamApek</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/the-art-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-78493</link>
		<dc:creator>KopitiamApek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 12:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>13) Koh Jia Hwee
///The Attempt to influence the public to show their real names is commendable - I like to know who is behind a nick sometimes as well.///

Me too. I get wacked for my views often by pple who has use a dfferent name for each nasty reply to my posts, by from the writing style, one may deduce they are from the same person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>13) Koh Jia Hwee<br />
///The Attempt to influence the public to show their real names is commendable &#8211; I like to know who is behind a nick sometimes as well.///</p>
<p>Me too. I get wacked for my views often by pple who has use a dfferent name for each nasty reply to my posts, by from the writing style, one may deduce they are from the same person.</p>
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		<title>By: socrates</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/the-art-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-78475</link>
		<dc:creator>socrates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 10:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff. Thanks.
I like Dr Kevin Tan&#039;s encapsulation of the laws into the  one and half hour.
More please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff. Thanks.<br />
I like Dr Kevin Tan&#8217;s encapsulation of the laws into the  one and half hour.<br />
More please.</p>
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