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	<title>Comments on: NSP ND Message &#8211; Seeking solidarity or sympathy?</title>
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		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/nsp-nd-message-seeking-solidarity-or-sympathy/comment-page-1/#comment-205118</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 22:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ken Sun</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/nsp-nd-message-seeking-solidarity-or-sympathy/comment-page-1/#comment-115576</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Sun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NSP wishes to thank everyone for their kind comments. It is also through such advice and criticism that one can learn and improve on one&#039;s future performance. Our video shoot was our first ever attempt to utilise the new media. Admittedly, we were inexperienced. Coupled with our limited resources, the outcome was regrettably poor. Although some criticisms were cruelly harsh, we were nevertheless glad to have found some snatches of support here and there. We know that the public is not easy to please, but please don&#039;t be easily offended as well. We sincerely promise a better effort the next time around. Thank you once again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NSP wishes to thank everyone for their kind comments. It is also through such advice and criticism that one can learn and improve on one&#8217;s future performance. Our video shoot was our first ever attempt to utilise the new media. Admittedly, we were inexperienced. Coupled with our limited resources, the outcome was regrettably poor. Although some criticisms were cruelly harsh, we were nevertheless glad to have found some snatches of support here and there. We know that the public is not easy to please, but please don&#8217;t be easily offended as well. We sincerely promise a better effort the next time around. Thank you once again.</p>
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		<title>By: Wat Sup</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/nsp-nd-message-seeking-solidarity-or-sympathy/comment-page-1/#comment-98963</link>
		<dc:creator>Wat Sup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 07:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Oxford,

Let face the fact, wat I mean is the moral stand for Singapore of the politician. I do not want to choose a cunning leader to be my MP, either from PAP or Opposition. I have seen much. I am simply looking for a moral break through in Singapore Politics.

Let not discuss such a topic here. It seems becoming a personnal attack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Oxford,</p>
<p>Let face the fact, wat I mean is the moral stand for Singapore of the politician. I do not want to choose a cunning leader to be my MP, either from PAP or Opposition. I have seen much. I am simply looking for a moral break through in Singapore Politics.</p>
<p>Let not discuss such a topic here. It seems becoming a personnal attack.</p>
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		<title>By: Oxford Dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oxford Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 04:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Wat Sup,

Do you know what&#039;s the meaning of  有勇无谋 ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Wat Sup,</p>
<p>Do you know what&#8217;s the meaning of  有勇无谋 ?</p>
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		<title>By: Wat Sup</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/nsp-nd-message-seeking-solidarity-or-sympathy/comment-page-1/#comment-98626</link>
		<dc:creator>Wat Sup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I simply think that many young online members need to come back to the fundamental of what is politicis instead of idolizing on leader with branding. We have been brain wash for 50 years of PAP ideology mind set like looking forward to LKY branding instead of the PAP as a whole. PAP is suffer in difficulties of finding and building a new leadership. All we going to contiune and suffer what PAP is facing. Are we sending message to encouraging all the other political party to follow the same footstep for this mistake?

Lets not forgeting that a politician must take up the courage to do all this best to improve livinghood for all people. As a citizen it is our duty to pratise our right and up hold unity and strenght of our nation, but not on branding and idolizing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I simply think that many young online members need to come back to the fundamental of what is politicis instead of idolizing on leader with branding. We have been brain wash for 50 years of PAP ideology mind set like looking forward to LKY branding instead of the PAP as a whole. PAP is suffer in difficulties of finding and building a new leadership. All we going to contiune and suffer what PAP is facing. Are we sending message to encouraging all the other political party to follow the same footstep for this mistake?</p>
<p>Lets not forgeting that a politician must take up the courage to do all this best to improve livinghood for all people. As a citizen it is our duty to pratise our right and up hold unity and strenght of our nation, but not on branding and idolizing.</p>
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		<title>By: Yes We Can</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yes We Can</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Video could have been better produced.
the initial playing of the National Anthem is very corny, and the videography skills is damn lousy.

Message is too long that after 2 mins, I did not&#039;t want to continue on.

However, as this is their first try, I will cut them some slack.

Good effort by the NSP,  I believe you can go better next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Video could have been better produced.<br />
the initial playing of the National Anthem is very corny, and the videography skills is damn lousy.</p>
<p>Message is too long that after 2 mins, I did not&#8217;t want to continue on.</p>
<p>However, as this is their first try, I will cut them some slack.</p>
<p>Good effort by the NSP,  I believe you can go better next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Oxford Dude</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/nsp-nd-message-seeking-solidarity-or-sympathy/comment-page-1/#comment-98379</link>
		<dc:creator>Oxford Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Funactiver,

Every opposition political party is trying very hard to be the People&#039;s voice.  Every opposition political party also highlight the same problems faced by the People. The &quot;compilation of familiar woes&quot; does not give NSP a unique characteristic for anyone in general to identify himself with. NSP has to work harder by creating a brand for itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Funactiver,</p>
<p>Every opposition political party is trying very hard to be the People&#8217;s voice.  Every opposition political party also highlight the same problems faced by the People. The &#8220;compilation of familiar woes&#8221; does not give NSP a unique characteristic for anyone in general to identify himself with. NSP has to work harder by creating a brand for itself.</p>
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		<title>By: ACR</title>
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		<dc:creator>ACR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funactiver, I clearly acknowledge that being politically aware is important and lacking in Singapore. However, I do see a downside of the political-aware - tend to think too much and read too much into things that it misses primary cruxes.

Perhaps that applies to me as well. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funactiver, I clearly acknowledge that being politically aware is important and lacking in Singapore. However, I do see a downside of the political-aware &#8211; tend to think too much and read too much into things that it misses primary cruxes.</p>
<p>Perhaps that applies to me as well. :)</p>
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		<title>By: funactiver</title>
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		<dc:creator>funactiver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am just disappointed of how difference the online community prospective and needs from the real voice in commuinty we live in. I seem to be very clear of the message from all party ND message. All I thing is NSP &amp; SDP is trying to focus and gather all Singaporean back to real situation rather then enjoying in the dreamland created by the PAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just disappointed of how difference the online community prospective and needs from the real voice in commuinty we live in. I seem to be very clear of the message from all party ND message. All I thing is NSP &amp; SDP is trying to focus and gather all Singaporean back to real situation rather then enjoying in the dreamland created by the PAP.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/nsp-nd-message-seeking-solidarity-or-sympathy/comment-page-1/#comment-98293</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I try to be fair and not putting down NSP, but it seems to be a non-branded opposition party without clear ideology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try to be fair and not putting down NSP, but it seems to be a non-branded opposition party without clear ideology.</p>
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		<title>By: REMF</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/nsp-nd-message-seeking-solidarity-or-sympathy/comment-page-1/#comment-98277</link>
		<dc:creator>REMF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You called that a political party?

They win &quot;Harbans SIngh&quot; Award hands down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You called that a political party?</p>
<p>They win &#8220;Harbans SIngh&#8221; Award hands down.</p>
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		<title>By: funactiver</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/nsp-nd-message-seeking-solidarity-or-sympathy/comment-page-1/#comment-98264</link>
		<dc:creator>funactiver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am disappointed with the comment online regarding NSP. I do want to voice out my view regarding message NSP ND Mesage. Firstly, I do thing the only NSP and SDP ND message do mention and pointing out what common Singaporean are facing (full prospective) instead some political party advertisment (promoting party manifesto). The content of message pointed the most wided range of Singaporean disappointment of government and desire of change from the authorities.

Please for God seek stop pin pointing about presentation gesture and video production. NSP is not mediacorp. I am sure you will produce something worst if you do it yourselve for the first time.

NSP, keep up the good work. Contiune to voice out for the people. That what we want a political party for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am disappointed with the comment online regarding NSP. I do want to voice out my view regarding message NSP ND Mesage. Firstly, I do thing the only NSP and SDP ND message do mention and pointing out what common Singaporean are facing (full prospective) instead some political party advertisment (promoting party manifesto). The content of message pointed the most wided range of Singaporean disappointment of government and desire of change from the authorities.</p>
<p>Please for God seek stop pin pointing about presentation gesture and video production. NSP is not mediacorp. I am sure you will produce something worst if you do it yourselve for the first time.</p>
<p>NSP, keep up the good work. Contiune to voice out for the people. That what we want a political party for.</p>
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		<title>By: crowbar</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/nsp-nd-message-seeking-solidarity-or-sympathy/comment-page-1/#comment-98187</link>
		<dc:creator>crowbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And that Malay guy, aiyo! Relax face lar. So fierce la. I watch also very scared. Eyebrow must relax, bro. 

That chinese girl, aiyo! Hand gesture relak la. You fighting tai chi ah? LOL! But your mandarin tekkkong! Very clear. Good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that Malay guy, aiyo! Relax face lar. So fierce la. I watch also very scared. Eyebrow must relax, bro. </p>
<p>That chinese girl, aiyo! Hand gesture relak la. You fighting tai chi ah? LOL! But your mandarin tekkkong! Very clear. Good.</p>
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		<title>By: crowbar</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/nsp-nd-message-seeking-solidarity-or-sympathy/comment-page-1/#comment-98184</link>
		<dc:creator>crowbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t want to be cruel to NSP but politics is cruel. So here is my take on the video message - TOTALLY CRAP! BUT! BUT! Good honest effort. I like. BUT! Pls lar. How can cut national anthem out like that? And why need to have national anthem in all 3 videos? Very tiring leh. Listen once enough already.

Kenn Sun, must speak better la. If election speak like that, no one understand what u say!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t want to be cruel to NSP but politics is cruel. So here is my take on the video message &#8211; TOTALLY CRAP! BUT! BUT! Good honest effort. I like. BUT! Pls lar. How can cut national anthem out like that? And why need to have national anthem in all 3 videos? Very tiring leh. Listen once enough already.</p>
<p>Kenn Sun, must speak better la. If election speak like that, no one understand what u say!</p>
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		<title>By: Image Consultant</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/nsp-nd-message-seeking-solidarity-or-sympathy/comment-page-1/#comment-98177</link>
		<dc:creator>Image Consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite its lack of experience and expertise in video production which is obvious, the NSP deserves some praise for its effort in at least trying something than just putting up a usual written statement. 

Presentation-wise, a few points to ponder:

(1) The orange uniform with 2 dark patches are not exactly flattering for politicians.
(2) The video is too long, unless the speaker is really good or eye-pleasing.
(3) No eye contact - the speaker was not looking into the camera as he spoke.
(4) The filming would be better with a half-body shot, cutting away the redundant hand gestures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite its lack of experience and expertise in video production which is obvious, the NSP deserves some praise for its effort in at least trying something than just putting up a usual written statement. </p>
<p>Presentation-wise, a few points to ponder:</p>
<p>(1) The orange uniform with 2 dark patches are not exactly flattering for politicians.<br />
(2) The video is too long, unless the speaker is really good or eye-pleasing.<br />
(3) No eye contact &#8211; the speaker was not looking into the camera as he spoke.<br />
(4) The filming would be better with a half-body shot, cutting away the redundant hand gestures.</p>
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		<title>By: ACR</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/nsp-nd-message-seeking-solidarity-or-sympathy/comment-page-1/#comment-98175</link>
		<dc:creator>ACR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stranger: Read the NSP message again and it did not say there was NO culture of significance, it said there was LITTLE culture of significance and one that &quot;we can truely claim OUR OWN&quot;. Hawker centres also exist in Malaysia especially in KL. Any suggested example should be unique to Singapore. After much difficulty did I think of Orchard Road, which proves the point. What about HDB flats? I think that is unique to Singapore.

Oxford Dude: Whether a critique or rebuttal or whatever name, it attempts to debunk the points and/or share an alternative, contrary view, right? Similarly, mine is does the same to the critiques. As I said from the start, I am exercising my brain cells and overall, all the criticisms whether by TOC articles to the parties or me and others to the TOC articles are in an encouraging, healthy spirit (although admittedly not everyone does it with healthy intentions).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stranger: Read the NSP message again and it did not say there was NO culture of significance, it said there was LITTLE culture of significance and one that &#8220;we can truely claim OUR OWN&#8221;. Hawker centres also exist in Malaysia especially in KL. Any suggested example should be unique to Singapore. After much difficulty did I think of Orchard Road, which proves the point. What about HDB flats? I think that is unique to Singapore.</p>
<p>Oxford Dude: Whether a critique or rebuttal or whatever name, it attempts to debunk the points and/or share an alternative, contrary view, right? Similarly, mine is does the same to the critiques. As I said from the start, I am exercising my brain cells and overall, all the criticisms whether by TOC articles to the parties or me and others to the TOC articles are in an encouraging, healthy spirit (although admittedly not everyone does it with healthy intentions).</p>
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		<title>By: Opposition no balls and no brains</title>
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		<dc:creator>Opposition no balls and no brains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got this kind of standard of Opposition how to win election leh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got this kind of standard of Opposition how to win election leh?</p>
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		<title>By: Oxford Dude</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/nsp-nd-message-seeking-solidarity-or-sympathy/comment-page-1/#comment-98098</link>
		<dc:creator>Oxford Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi ACR,

This is intended as a critique, not an argumentative rebuttal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi ACR,</p>
<p>This is intended as a critique, not an argumentative rebuttal.</p>
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		<title>By: Stranger</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/nsp-nd-message-seeking-solidarity-or-sympathy/comment-page-1/#comment-98094</link>
		<dc:creator>Stranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hawker centre analogy is good.  It is but food and the joints that serve them, be it McDonald&#039;s or &#039;Lu Bian Tan&#039; or hawker centres, that gives the people a common identity, as an American or Hongkee or Singaporean or...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hawker centre analogy is good.  It is but food and the joints that serve them, be it McDonald&#8217;s or &#8216;Lu Bian Tan&#8217; or hawker centres, that gives the people a common identity, as an American or Hongkee or Singaporean or&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ACR</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/nsp-nd-message-seeking-solidarity-or-sympathy/comment-page-1/#comment-98089</link>
		<dc:creator>ACR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, will get straight to the point.

1) Wrong foot start. Nothing in NSP&#039;s message suggested that they wanted sympathy, given that it is defined as wanting sympathy for the party. The word may have been derived as a conclusion but it needs more substantiation, e.g. if NSP had asked for people to support them at the end of the message.

2) In all other critiques so far, no parties escaped the accusation of not putting forth issues people want to hear. Having the benefit of affording to sing from both sides of the tongue as a non-partisan entity, it was not unexpected that subsequently one of the critiques would contain the opposite of it and it was now - that NSP was a compilation of &quot;familiar woes&quot;. One thing I feel TOC should do is to show each of the critique writers what the other writers wrote, so that they won&#039;t run into the &quot;damn if you do, damn if you don&#039;t, damn if you stay still&quot; wannabe.

3) At least 25% of the essay, especially the section &quot;Where is the inspiration?&quot;, doesn&#039;t address the NSP&#039;s message, but the writer goes on to say his own things. One can have his own view, but that is not the same as going out of point.

4) Singlish is being far from recognised by Singaporeans themselves as a cultural identity. That was NSP&#039;s point - not only the government but the people. Even Singlish-speaking parents do not encourage their children at a young age to speak Singlish.

5) The &quot;hawker centre&quot; analogy is poor. One might as well talk about &quot;Lu Bian Tan&quot; in HK and hamburger joints in USA. There are eateries everywhere in the developed world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, will get straight to the point.</p>
<p>1) Wrong foot start. Nothing in NSP&#8217;s message suggested that they wanted sympathy, given that it is defined as wanting sympathy for the party. The word may have been derived as a conclusion but it needs more substantiation, e.g. if NSP had asked for people to support them at the end of the message.</p>
<p>2) In all other critiques so far, no parties escaped the accusation of not putting forth issues people want to hear. Having the benefit of affording to sing from both sides of the tongue as a non-partisan entity, it was not unexpected that subsequently one of the critiques would contain the opposite of it and it was now &#8211; that NSP was a compilation of &#8220;familiar woes&#8221;. One thing I feel TOC should do is to show each of the critique writers what the other writers wrote, so that they won&#8217;t run into the &#8220;damn if you do, damn if you don&#8217;t, damn if you stay still&#8221; wannabe.</p>
<p>3) At least 25% of the essay, especially the section &#8220;Where is the inspiration?&#8221;, doesn&#8217;t address the NSP&#8217;s message, but the writer goes on to say his own things. One can have his own view, but that is not the same as going out of point.</p>
<p>4) Singlish is being far from recognised by Singaporeans themselves as a cultural identity. That was NSP&#8217;s point &#8211; not only the government but the people. Even Singlish-speaking parents do not encourage their children at a young age to speak Singlish.</p>
<p>5) The &#8220;hawker centre&#8221; analogy is poor. One might as well talk about &#8220;Lu Bian Tan&#8221; in HK and hamburger joints in USA. There are eateries everywhere in the developed world.</p>
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