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		<title>By: Singaporean</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/patriotism-and-gratitude-require-reciprocity/comment-page-1/#comment-175826</link>
		<dc:creator>Singaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 13:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to be a colleague of Mr. Brooks at a publishing company. 

These are memories of him:

(1) He felt he was intellectually superior to locals because he&#039;s a white man... he believed he was an &quot;asset&quot; to Singapore... even though he came here on his own

(2) He especially disliked the Chinese

(3) To my best recall, he was never able to hold a job for more than 3-4 months, at any place

(4) He was disliked by his non-Chinese colleagues

(5) He parents are from Italy and Eric changed his name to sound more Anglo-Saxon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to be a colleague of Mr. Brooks at a publishing company. </p>
<p>These are memories of him:</p>
<p>(1) He felt he was intellectually superior to locals because he&#8217;s a white man&#8230; he believed he was an &#8220;asset&#8221; to Singapore&#8230; even though he came here on his own</p>
<p>(2) He especially disliked the Chinese</p>
<p>(3) To my best recall, he was never able to hold a job for more than 3-4 months, at any place</p>
<p>(4) He was disliked by his non-Chinese colleagues</p>
<p>(5) He parents are from Italy and Eric changed his name to sound more Anglo-Saxon</p>
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		<title>By: Canada vs Singapore &#171; Snippets</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canada vs Singapore &#171; Snippets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Wing Lee Chong in this case. And thus the ball is played back and forth and this is the latest reply from Wing (On a sidenote, I think its interesting TOC only chose to publish letters from Wing and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Wing Lee Chong in this case. And thus the ball is played back and forth and this is the latest reply from Wing (On a sidenote, I think its interesting TOC only chose to publish letters from Wing and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Amused</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sgcynic

&quot;Sigh, after staying in Singapore, Brooks fellow still cannot see the street-level socioeconomic conditions of Singapore.&quot;

But of course. Back home in Canada, Mr. Brooks is most likely &quot;street-level&quot; himself. Here in Singapore, he should be at least &quot;10th floor-level&quot;. So far above the street, how to understand street conditions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sgcynic</p>
<p>&#8220;Sigh, after staying in Singapore, Brooks fellow still cannot see the street-level socioeconomic conditions of Singapore.&#8221;</p>
<p>But of course. Back home in Canada, Mr. Brooks is most likely &#8220;street-level&#8221; himself. Here in Singapore, he should be at least &#8220;10th floor-level&#8221;. So far above the street, how to understand street conditions?</p>
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		<title>By: anakin</title>
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		<dc:creator>anakin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric 

This is what Spore does to homeless people, 
http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_418240.html

jail them, that&#039;s why no beggers in Spore.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric </p>
<p>This is what Spore does to homeless people,<br />
<a href="http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_418240.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_418240.html</a></p>
<p>jail them, that&#8217;s why no beggers in Spore&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: ah gua brooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>ah gua brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>100 bucks says this chao ah gua elic brooks wont take up singaporean citizenship</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>100 bucks says this chao ah gua elic brooks wont take up singaporean citizenship</p>
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		<title>By: Thank U Mr Cheong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thank U Mr Cheong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing your personal experience and shedding light on the Canadian system.

You hit the nail on the head when you said: &quot;The lifestyle difference between a typical Singaporean and a Canadian is that a Singaporean spends his life making a living, whereas a Canadian lives his life.&quot;

Indeed, most Singaporeans will spend 30 years of their live paying off the mortgage of their PUBLIC HOUSING flats whose prices are astronomical even in a recession - thanks to all the foreign nationals from China and India here.

I&#039;m very happy that you with a vocational education have done very well for yourself and your children.  If you had stayed in Singapore, you&#039;d be a low-wage PMET earning just $1,700 and probably retrenched.  

I seriously think our PMETs would do so much better in New Zealand, USA, Australia and Canada if only they had the chance to migrate.   In these countries,  even cleaners, mechanics, electricians, brick layers can afford to buy and live in a house, albeit not in pricey zone 1 areas, but in outlying suburbs.   

There is SPACE to bring up your children there, there are rivers, national parks, cricket fields, ovals, lakes etc to take your family on the weekends.   And if you&#039;re too poor to buy food, at least you can grown them in your backyard!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing your personal experience and shedding light on the Canadian system.</p>
<p>You hit the nail on the head when you said: &#8220;The lifestyle difference between a typical Singaporean and a Canadian is that a Singaporean spends his life making a living, whereas a Canadian lives his life.&#8221;</p>
<p>Indeed, most Singaporeans will spend 30 years of their live paying off the mortgage of their PUBLIC HOUSING flats whose prices are astronomical even in a recession &#8211; thanks to all the foreign nationals from China and India here.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very happy that you with a vocational education have done very well for yourself and your children.  If you had stayed in Singapore, you&#8217;d be a low-wage PMET earning just $1,700 and probably retrenched.  </p>
<p>I seriously think our PMETs would do so much better in New Zealand, USA, Australia and Canada if only they had the chance to migrate.   In these countries,  even cleaners, mechanics, electricians, brick layers can afford to buy and live in a house, albeit not in pricey zone 1 areas, but in outlying suburbs.   </p>
<p>There is SPACE to bring up your children there, there are rivers, national parks, cricket fields, ovals, lakes etc to take your family on the weekends.   And if you&#8217;re too poor to buy food, at least you can grown them in your backyard!</p>
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		<title>By: AFTPolicy</title>
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		<dc:creator>AFTPolicy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Why my advice don&#039;t buy, don&#039;t read &amp; don&#039;t believed whatever is published in straits times, only go to Library to read to seek for job. Me out job more than 6 months and before that was contract job so we s&#039;porean do share a same frustration with their policy,can anyone tell me how to root and stay loyal,  and the hungry man turn to.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Why my advice don&#8217;t buy, don&#8217;t read &amp; don&#8217;t believed whatever is published in straits times, only go to Library to read to seek for job. Me out job more than 6 months and before that was contract job so we s&#8217;porean do share a same frustration with their policy,can anyone tell me how to root and stay loyal,  and the hungry man turn to&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: sgcynic</title>
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		<dc:creator>sgcynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ultimately, actually seeing the street-level socioeconomic conditions of Western countries puts Singapore’s Government in a very good light indeed.&quot;

Sigh, after staying in Singapore, Brooks fellow still cannot see the street-level socioeconomic conditions of Singapore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ultimately, actually seeing the street-level socioeconomic conditions of Western countries puts Singapore’s Government in a very good light indeed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sigh, after staying in Singapore, Brooks fellow still cannot see the street-level socioeconomic conditions of Singapore.</p>
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		<title>By: leeyewkuan</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/patriotism-and-gratitude-require-reciprocity/comment-page-1/#comment-96740</link>
		<dc:creator>leeyewkuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[i]BUT to me, it is very CLEAR. I may not like the current ruling party, BUT no doubt abt the COUNTRY, singapore.[/i]

i too love OUR country singaPORE, unfortunateLEE some1 here make it his familLEE county, everythinggie he changed from the peoples&#039; companies to his familLEE companies and endup to make it a profitable corporation irregardless of who usin the faciLEEties.
ole youn never mind all must pay FULL rates...........
~sigh~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[i]BUT to me, it is very CLEAR. I may not like the current ruling party, BUT no doubt abt the COUNTRY, singapore.[/i]</p>
<p>i too love OUR country singaPORE, unfortunateLEE some1 here make it his familLEE county, everythinggie he changed from the peoples&#8217; companies to his familLEE companies and endup to make it a profitable corporation irregardless of who usin the faciLEEties.<br />
ole youn never mind all must pay FULL rates&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
~sigh~</p>
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		<title>By: Ahgong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahgong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#32 Just like what you stated and awared of, canada is a very very big country with many resources and singapore is very small country. Then why cheong expected a social welfare system like canada ?? 

I did agree that the current gov should be more prudent in immigration rule. BUT hey, which singaporean going to do the construction work or clear the rubbish bin for us?? 

The reasoning is valid, just that we don&#039;t know when that will reached a boiling point. Given the vast resources of canada. 

Well, i admitted that many over here can not get over the emotional barrier. Just like a lousy joke i always cracked, to many here, they seems to think that anyone wearing white shirts is a PAP. :P 

Hatred sometimes just clouded everyone&#039;s mind.

BUT to me, it is very CLEAR. I may not like the current ruling party, BUT no doubt abt the COUNTRY, singapore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#32 Just like what you stated and awared of, canada is a very very big country with many resources and singapore is very small country. Then why cheong expected a social welfare system like canada ?? </p>
<p>I did agree that the current gov should be more prudent in immigration rule. BUT hey, which singaporean going to do the construction work or clear the rubbish bin for us?? </p>
<p>The reasoning is valid, just that we don&#8217;t know when that will reached a boiling point. Given the vast resources of canada. </p>
<p>Well, i admitted that many over here can not get over the emotional barrier. Just like a lousy joke i always cracked, to many here, they seems to think that anyone wearing white shirts is a PAP. :P </p>
<p>Hatred sometimes just clouded everyone&#8217;s mind.</p>
<p>BUT to me, it is very CLEAR. I may not like the current ruling party, BUT no doubt abt the COUNTRY, singapore.</p>
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		<title>By: transformer</title>
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		<dc:creator>transformer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some questions for Mr Brooks
I live in Singapore all my life , 50.5 years to be exact.
How long have you been here? 
And  you are here to pass judgement on us?
Since Singapore is such a fairyland to you
 just as Canada and Australia is to me.
Why not we trade citizenship?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some questions for Mr Brooks<br />
I live in Singapore all my life , 50.5 years to be exact.<br />
How long have you been here?<br />
And  you are here to pass judgement on us?<br />
Since Singapore is such a fairyland to you<br />
 just as Canada and Australia is to me.<br />
Why not we trade citizenship?</p>
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		<title>By: Moe Gan Thai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moe Gan Thai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We Singaporeans have to work til over 65 in order to earn a living, and without savings in Cpf, do you think it is a good country ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We Singaporeans have to work til over 65 in order to earn a living, and without savings in Cpf, do you think it is a good country ??</p>
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		<title>By: anakin</title>
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		<dc:creator>anakin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Eric Brooks,

If Singapore is so good and Canada so bad, please exchange citizenship with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eric Brooks,</p>
<p>If Singapore is so good and Canada so bad, please exchange citizenship with me.</p>
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		<title>By: Waste Time</title>
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		<dc:creator>Waste Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 03:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Managed to come across both Brooks article (Unfortunately) on Shitty Times...  
To make things worse, I come across more PLP people writing in to thank Brooks for &quot;reminding&quot; Singaporean to be thankful of Singapore (or rather garment) as foreigner.
I boil when I saw that.
Regardless of how biase Brooks comments might be,  I suppose it would be good to have this letter published as it is meant to be in the forum page, to start off a meaningful debate on his comments. 
Sadly, this is so far away from the truth... once again, our Shitty Times just want positive spins on our garment to be spun. 
To me, this is the most outrageous thing out of this whole event. 
Brooks only represent himself... a single person... hence his personal opinion doesnt really means anything. In fact... who cares!? The way he wrote just shows how shallow he is!
However, the fact that our Shitty Times chose to endorse this article is simply atrocious... they want to achieve their aim of nation building (or Garment building?) but instilling shallowness upon its reader? They want shallowness to be the general norm in Singapore?
Hence guys... dun blame Brooks... he is there just because this system requires him to be there... 
In Canada, I am sure no one will dare to display this kind of shallowness and stupidity in public. Singapore, and not Canada, is a the place for him to display his talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Managed to come across both Brooks article (Unfortunately) on Shitty Times&#8230;<br />
To make things worse, I come across more PLP people writing in to thank Brooks for &#8220;reminding&#8221; Singaporean to be thankful of Singapore (or rather garment) as foreigner.<br />
I boil when I saw that.<br />
Regardless of how biase Brooks comments might be,  I suppose it would be good to have this letter published as it is meant to be in the forum page, to start off a meaningful debate on his comments.<br />
Sadly, this is so far away from the truth&#8230; once again, our Shitty Times just want positive spins on our garment to be spun.<br />
To me, this is the most outrageous thing out of this whole event.<br />
Brooks only represent himself&#8230; a single person&#8230; hence his personal opinion doesnt really means anything. In fact&#8230; who cares!? The way he wrote just shows how shallow he is!<br />
However, the fact that our Shitty Times chose to endorse this article is simply atrocious&#8230; they want to achieve their aim of nation building (or Garment building?) but instilling shallowness upon its reader? They want shallowness to be the general norm in Singapore?<br />
Hence guys&#8230; dun blame Brooks&#8230; he is there just because this system requires him to be there&#8230;<br />
In Canada, I am sure no one will dare to display this kind of shallowness and stupidity in public. Singapore, and not Canada, is a the place for him to display his talent.</p>
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		<title>By: preston loon</title>
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		<dc:creator>preston loon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr.Brooks,
                             God forbids,if you have a illness that needs a major surgery.I wonder where you would go.Stay in Singapore paying thousands $$$,or buy a one
way ticket back to the country you came from.Any answer please?Preston Loon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr.Brooks,<br />
                             God forbids,if you have a illness that needs a major surgery.I wonder where you would go.Stay in Singapore paying thousands $$$,or buy a one<br />
way ticket back to the country you came from.Any answer please?Preston Loon.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Those “rubbish” are simply logical reasoning. Just look at uk, europe, aust and those so called welfare state. “Green shoots”already been there.&quot;

What a bunch of stupid nonsense. Whether they are sustainable or not, does that affect you ? Our system is even more pathetic. Isn&#039;t our system come with clauses that they don&#039;t even pay a dim should the CPF goes insolvent ? At least other country didn&#039;t state those clauses. For all we know, more than half of 4 decades of accumulated reserves and assets have been gambled away by the Leegime, and that is why they are manipulating the CPF and increasing inflation at our expenses, so what are you going to do about it ? So wht care about other country when your own country is not much better ? What should have been a welfare for Singapore for more than $100 billions have been gambled at your expenses , so are you happy ?

The question is not a matter of future but of now. the old fart can give all the fart and con reason and excuses of manipulating  for the  future where he and his family and lackeys get to enjoy those state wealth now. 

Do you rather enjoy welfare now and in your lifetime or in next 50-100 years when you dead ? Dead man tells no tale after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Those “rubbish” are simply logical reasoning. Just look at uk, europe, aust and those so called welfare state. “Green shoots”already been there.&#8221;</p>
<p>What a bunch of stupid nonsense. Whether they are sustainable or not, does that affect you ? Our system is even more pathetic. Isn&#8217;t our system come with clauses that they don&#8217;t even pay a dim should the CPF goes insolvent ? At least other country didn&#8217;t state those clauses. For all we know, more than half of 4 decades of accumulated reserves and assets have been gambled away by the Leegime, and that is why they are manipulating the CPF and increasing inflation at our expenses, so what are you going to do about it ? So wht care about other country when your own country is not much better ? What should have been a welfare for Singapore for more than $100 billions have been gambled at your expenses , so are you happy ?</p>
<p>The question is not a matter of future but of now. the old fart can give all the fart and con reason and excuses of manipulating  for the  future where he and his family and lackeys get to enjoy those state wealth now. </p>
<p>Do you rather enjoy welfare now and in your lifetime or in next 50-100 years when you dead ? Dead man tells no tale after all.</p>
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		<title>By: leeyewkuan</title>
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		<dc:creator>leeyewkuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[i]25) Ahgong on August 17th, 2009 5.16 pm 
for “FT” like cheong, as he leeching onto the welfare system of the canadian society, jacking up the property price and competing the limited jobs vacancy, abusing the medical/hospital welfare system. 

Why lambasting the country that give birth to you? One always has to keep in mind that the country and the ruling party is two different entities. Don’t shoot the wrong birds lah.[/i]

ok don&#039;t shoot the wron birds...let see lines by lines shall we?
do you know of some minister who commandeer a sia plane and convert it into a flyin ambulance just for the sake of his sick wife who is not supposed to travel in the first place?
the same minister who scold our ole aged parents for visitin china and brin in the SAR flu
since we are ALL singapooriums
can you make tiger airways.com to do the same biddin if your wife suddenly have the h1n1 virus infected? let alone commandeer the whole singapore general hospital as well?
why can the same minister do it onced more while we cannot?
now we want YOU to answer your OWNED question..
the country and the ruling party is two different entities....
please shared with us where are the lines bein drawn on different entities... PLEASE? i beg of you............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[i]25) Ahgong on August 17th, 2009 5.16 pm<br />
for “FT” like cheong, as he leeching onto the welfare system of the canadian society, jacking up the property price and competing the limited jobs vacancy, abusing the medical/hospital welfare system. </p>
<p>Why lambasting the country that give birth to you? One always has to keep in mind that the country and the ruling party is two different entities. Don’t shoot the wrong birds lah.[/i]</p>
<p>ok don&#8217;t shoot the wron birds&#8230;let see lines by lines shall we?<br />
do you know of some minister who commandeer a sia plane and convert it into a flyin ambulance just for the sake of his sick wife who is not supposed to travel in the first place?<br />
the same minister who scold our ole aged parents for visitin china and brin in the SAR flu<br />
since we are ALL singapooriums<br />
can you make tiger airways.com to do the same biddin if your wife suddenly have the h1n1 virus infected? let alone commandeer the whole singapore general hospital as well?<br />
why can the same minister do it onced more while we cannot?<br />
now we want YOU to answer your OWNED question..<br />
the country and the ruling party is two different entities&#8230;.<br />
please shared with us where are the lines bein drawn on different entities&#8230; PLEASE? i beg of you&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ah Siao</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ah Siao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahgong,

I am not sure about Europe and I know nothing about them, but Canada is a big country, fyi its a little smaller than 10 mil km sq.  even if just 10% is developed which is roughly 1mil km sq, she can affort to continue recieving immigrants and there are still enough space for everyone.

The way the SIngapore Govt are accepting foreigners, given such a small dot, its just short sighted and irresponsible.

And if you ever come to see Vancouver, you will learn a whole new meaning of words like  multi racial, multi- cultural, multi-religious as those define by the PAP govt.

So those logical reasons you gave just doesn&#039;t sound logical here.

In the Singapore context, do you REALLY think that there is a difference between PAP and the country? Get real, the PAP have make it quite clear that loyalty to the PAP is a prelude to loving the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahgong,</p>
<p>I am not sure about Europe and I know nothing about them, but Canada is a big country, fyi its a little smaller than 10 mil km sq.  even if just 10% is developed which is roughly 1mil km sq, she can affort to continue recieving immigrants and there are still enough space for everyone.</p>
<p>The way the SIngapore Govt are accepting foreigners, given such a small dot, its just short sighted and irresponsible.</p>
<p>And if you ever come to see Vancouver, you will learn a whole new meaning of words like  multi racial, multi- cultural, multi-religious as those define by the PAP govt.</p>
<p>So those logical reasons you gave just doesn&#8217;t sound logical here.</p>
<p>In the Singapore context, do you REALLY think that there is a difference between PAP and the country? Get real, the PAP have make it quite clear that loyalty to the PAP is a prelude to loving the country.</p>
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		<title>By: leeyewkuan</title>
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		<dc:creator>leeyewkuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[i]Ahgong on August 18th, 2009 1.13 am #26 depends on how you see it. We can say at least brook still retained his citizenship, while cheong has totally given up his. Since cheong has chosen to be a canadian, why still dwelling on his sad past story in sg?[/i]
do you feel uncomfortable when 1 who no longer lived in singapoor is tellin the TRUTH?
nothin but the goodamntruth?
comeon be a MAN!  don&#039;t alway listened to leekuanyew boostins....
used your own BRAINCELLs if you have any dignity left...
i criticise leekuanyew just for fun or pun? he 1 man make 90% of our fellow singapooriums unhappy or unemployed...
which part of the above sentence you want to rebutt on?
you mereLEE think the 66% who supported his familLEE is doin well?
why they can withdraw their cpf savin$ mey?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[i]Ahgong on August 18th, 2009 1.13 am #26 depends on how you see it. We can say at least brook still retained his citizenship, while cheong has totally given up his. Since cheong has chosen to be a canadian, why still dwelling on his sad past story in sg?[/i]<br />
do you feel uncomfortable when 1 who no longer lived in singapoor is tellin the TRUTH?<br />
nothin but the goodamntruth?<br />
comeon be a MAN!  don&#8217;t alway listened to leekuanyew boostins&#8230;.<br />
used your own BRAINCELLs if you have any dignity left&#8230;<br />
i criticise leekuanyew just for fun or pun? he 1 man make 90% of our fellow singapooriums unhappy or unemployed&#8230;<br />
which part of the above sentence you want to rebutt on?<br />
you mereLEE think the 66% who supported his familLEE is doin well?<br />
why they can withdraw their cpf savin$ mey?</p>
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		<title>By: Ahgong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahgong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#26 depends on how you see it. We can say at least brook still retained his citizenship, while cheong has totally given up his. Since cheong has chosen to be a canadian, why still dwelling on his sad past story in sg?

Those &quot;rubbish&quot; are simply logical reasoning. Just look at uk, europe, aust and those so called welfare state. &quot;Green shoots&quot;already been there. The citizens there  are just plain mortal like us. When there is enough resources ( jobs, money, woman) going around, people are a little bit more gracious and forgiving abt foreigners. When there is not, hehe, god bless you. Aust is a very good example. Recent\ly anti-indian, previosuly anti-viet, anti-asian, anti-muslims are not unheard of. 

Why lambasting the country that give birth to you? One always has to keep in mind that the country and the ruling party is two different entities. Don&#039;t shoot the wrong birds lah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#26 depends on how you see it. We can say at least brook still retained his citizenship, while cheong has totally given up his. Since cheong has chosen to be a canadian, why still dwelling on his sad past story in sg?</p>
<p>Those &#8220;rubbish&#8221; are simply logical reasoning. Just look at uk, europe, aust and those so called welfare state. &#8220;Green shoots&#8221;already been there. The citizens there  are just plain mortal like us. When there is enough resources ( jobs, money, woman) going around, people are a little bit more gracious and forgiving abt foreigners. When there is not, hehe, god bless you. Aust is a very good example. Recent\ly anti-indian, previosuly anti-viet, anti-asian, anti-muslims are not unheard of. </p>
<p>Why lambasting the country that give birth to you? One always has to keep in mind that the country and the ruling party is two different entities. Don&#8217;t shoot the wrong birds lah.</p>
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