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	<title>Comments on: Tharman&#8217;s &#8220;public interest&#8221; remark removed by Straits Times</title>
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		<title>By: temasick</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/tharmans-public-interest-remark-removed-by-straits-times/comment-page-2/#comment-128640</link>
		<dc:creator>temasick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 06:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who on earth gave him the assumption that people are &quot;curious&quot; ? His cronies or his yes-man ppl from the ypap?
The people are &quot;demanding&quot; facts and justifications for the massive losses, not out of curiousity but a responsibility towards the management of the state and people&#039;s funds.  

Pls, wake up your million dollars brain, tll now we are still kept in the dark as to how our hard earned CPF monies are being invested and managed by who.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who on earth gave him the assumption that people are &#8220;curious&#8221; ? His cronies or his yes-man ppl from the ypap?<br />
The people are &#8220;demanding&#8221; facts and justifications for the massive losses, not out of curiousity but a responsibility towards the management of the state and people&#8217;s funds.  </p>
<p>Pls, wake up your million dollars brain, tll now we are still kept in the dark as to how our hard earned CPF monies are being invested and managed by who.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/tharmans-public-interest-remark-removed-by-straits-times/comment-page-2/#comment-99485</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Lau Lee once said that our ST is so good that foreign governments refer it for information (maybe it is Myamar?). &quot;

Yes, democratic foreign government will refer to our ShittyTimes just to learn how NOT to write trash, nonsense, and one-sided partisan information. 

 Myamar Junta may refer to our ShittyTimes because they want to know the status of the Orchard that name after them in Botanic Garden. Is it cursed and dead in Botanic Garden ? They also want to refer to it for propaganda Shit that love to publicise the negativeness and disaster of other countries that make SIN gov look so good and heaven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lau Lee once said that our ST is so good that foreign governments refer it for information (maybe it is Myamar?). &#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, democratic foreign government will refer to our ShittyTimes just to learn how NOT to write trash, nonsense, and one-sided partisan information. </p>
<p> Myamar Junta may refer to our ShittyTimes because they want to know the status of the Orchard that name after them in Botanic Garden. Is it cursed and dead in Botanic Garden ? They also want to refer to it for propaganda Shit that love to publicise the negativeness and disaster of other countries that make SIN gov look so good and heaven.</p>
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		<title>By: ah meng</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/tharmans-public-interest-remark-removed-by-straits-times/comment-page-2/#comment-99478</link>
		<dc:creator>ah meng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10) Fat Hope on August 20th, 2009 4.51 pm

Lau Lee once said that our ST is so good that foreign governments refer it for information (maybe it is Myamar?). Junior Lee also once said that our ST is a quality, solid paper with good journalism, not some kind of cowboy internet forum……..


lol ^ what foreign governments would read our papers?? no democratic country would read our papers because they know very well its full of shit. thats right i said SHIT, its full of SHIT.

&#039;Straits Times&#039; should call it newsletter instead of newspaper</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10) Fat Hope on August 20th, 2009 4.51 pm</p>
<p>Lau Lee once said that our ST is so good that foreign governments refer it for information (maybe it is Myamar?). Junior Lee also once said that our ST is a quality, solid paper with good journalism, not some kind of cowboy internet forum……..</p>
<p>lol ^ what foreign governments would read our papers?? no democratic country would read our papers because they know very well its full of shit. thats right i said SHIT, its full of SHIT.</p>
<p>&#8216;Straits Times&#8217; should call it newsletter instead of newspaper</p>
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		<title>By: Angelina</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/tharmans-public-interest-remark-removed-by-straits-times/comment-page-2/#comment-99373</link>
		<dc:creator>Angelina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is so glaringly blatant what the Straits Times is doing and I wonder how our President scholars (top academic creme de la creme) can accept the nonsense and even defend it vehemently.  I won&#039;t even call them academics!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is so glaringly blatant what the Straits Times is doing and I wonder how our President scholars (top academic creme de la creme) can accept the nonsense and even defend it vehemently.  I won&#8217;t even call them academics!</p>
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		<title>By: crabby</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/tharmans-public-interest-remark-removed-by-straits-times/comment-page-2/#comment-99335</link>
		<dc:creator>crabby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the PAP Times to the rescue again!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the PAP Times to the rescue again!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ah Cow</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/tharmans-public-interest-remark-removed-by-straits-times/comment-page-2/#comment-98693</link>
		<dc:creator>Ah Cow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The name &quot;Shitty Times&quot; is

not far off the mark. Time 

for a name change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The name &#8220;Shitty Times&#8221; is</p>
<p>not far off the mark. Time </p>
<p>for a name change.</p>
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		<title>By: abdul</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/tharmans-public-interest-remark-removed-by-straits-times/comment-page-2/#comment-98408</link>
		<dc:creator>abdul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;People do want to know, there is curiosity, ----snip snip------. That is not sufficient reason to disclose information. It is not sufficient that there be curiosity [and interest] that you want to disclose information.”

The self censoring folks at Shit Times forgot to cut out the words in square brackets - &quot;and interest&quot; which refers to the deleted part &quot; it is a matter of public interest&quot;.

Now, that&#039;s interesting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;People do want to know, there is curiosity, &#8212;-snip snip&#8212;&#8212;. That is not sufficient reason to disclose information. It is not sufficient that there be curiosity [and interest] that you want to disclose information.”</p>
<p>The self censoring folks at Shit Times forgot to cut out the words in square brackets &#8211; &#8220;and interest&#8221; which refers to the deleted part &#8221; it is a matter of public interest&#8221;.</p>
<p>Now, that&#8217;s interesting!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/tharmans-public-interest-remark-removed-by-straits-times/comment-page-2/#comment-98309</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;you guys are blind or what. It says right at the beginning of the transcript that this is an edited transcript. I believe editing means removing repetitions, among other things. There’s already this sentence in the column on the left — “It is a matter of public interest who the CEO of Temasek is”. So I don’t see any cover up here.&quot;

Are you really seeing ghost or are you really the ghost yourself ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;you guys are blind or what. It says right at the beginning of the transcript that this is an edited transcript. I believe editing means removing repetitions, among other things. There’s already this sentence in the column on the left — “It is a matter of public interest who the CEO of Temasek is”. So I don’t see any cover up here.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you really seeing ghost or are you really the ghost yourself ?</p>
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		<title>By: SpeedWeed</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/tharmans-public-interest-remark-removed-by-straits-times/comment-page-2/#comment-98299</link>
		<dc:creator>SpeedWeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well.. consider this..

ask anymore questions and tharman will need to do a jack nicholson.

YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well.. consider this..</p>
<p>ask anymore questions and tharman will need to do a jack nicholson.</p>
<p>YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!</p>
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		<title>By: Bila Lila</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/tharmans-public-interest-remark-removed-by-straits-times/comment-page-2/#comment-98270</link>
		<dc:creator>Bila Lila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seeing ghosts is really seeing ghosts. He does not know the meaning of ad verbatim transcript.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing ghosts is really seeing ghosts. He does not know the meaning of ad verbatim transcript.</p>
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		<title>By: seeing ghosts</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/tharmans-public-interest-remark-removed-by-straits-times/comment-page-2/#comment-98253</link>
		<dc:creator>seeing ghosts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you guys are blind or what. It says right at the beginning of the transcript that this is an edited transcript. I believe editing means removing repetitions, among other things. There&#039;s already this sentence in the column on the left -- &quot;It is a matter of public interest who the CEO of Temasek is&quot;. So I don&#039;t see any cover up here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you guys are blind or what. It says right at the beginning of the transcript that this is an edited transcript. I believe editing means removing repetitions, among other things. There&#8217;s already this sentence in the column on the left &#8212; &#8220;It is a matter of public interest who the CEO of Temasek is&#8221;. So I don&#8217;t see any cover up here.</p>
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		<title>By: Skip</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/tharmans-public-interest-remark-removed-by-straits-times/comment-page-2/#comment-98152</link>
		<dc:creator>Skip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 07:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is exactly one of the points raised in NMP Viswa&#039;s speech - how we need traditional media to not be govt. lapdogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is exactly one of the points raised in NMP Viswa&#8217;s speech &#8211; how we need traditional media to not be govt. lapdogs.</p>
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		<title>By: The SS</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/tharmans-public-interest-remark-removed-by-straits-times/comment-page-2/#comment-98105</link>
		<dc:creator>The SS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is typical isn&#039;t it? But will the 66.6% learn to see the implications of all these recent events?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is typical isn&#8217;t it? But will the 66.6% learn to see the implications of all these recent events?</p>
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		<title>By: let's move on</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/tharmans-public-interest-remark-removed-by-straits-times/comment-page-2/#comment-98103</link>
		<dc:creator>let's move on</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s an honest mistake, Let&#039;s move on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an honest mistake, Let&#8217;s move on!</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/tharmans-public-interest-remark-removed-by-straits-times/comment-page-2/#comment-98102</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you take Singapore Airline, the main newspaper is Straits Times (ST). 
But many foreigners perfer otherwise.

The Straits Times newspaper distributed to the planes will come Without the Classified Section, always.

Why?

The number of people declare as Bankruptcy + court cases advertised in the Classifed will be shocking....

No surprise certain statements (include this topic) are often omitted out by ST.
Only silly one like T.T. Durai wanted to sue ST.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you take Singapore Airline, the main newspaper is Straits Times (ST).<br />
But many foreigners perfer otherwise.</p>
<p>The Straits Times newspaper distributed to the planes will come Without the Classified Section, always.</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>The number of people declare as Bankruptcy + court cases advertised in the Classifed will be shocking&#8230;.</p>
<p>No surprise certain statements (include this topic) are often omitted out by ST.<br />
Only silly one like T.T. Durai wanted to sue ST.</p>
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		<title>By: Oracle</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/tharmans-public-interest-remark-removed-by-straits-times/comment-page-2/#comment-98076</link>
		<dc:creator>Oracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Following up on &quot;Vote of Opposition&quot; comment,  maybe Tharman&#039;s comment on why disclosing the reasons for Goodyear&#039;s removal &quot;serves no strategic interest&quot; refers to what&#039;s posted in http://johnharding.com/2009/02/08/is-charles-chip-goodyear-iv-an-impostor/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following up on &#8220;Vote of Opposition&#8221; comment,  maybe Tharman&#8217;s comment on why disclosing the reasons for Goodyear&#8217;s removal &#8220;serves no strategic interest&#8221; refers to what&#8217;s posted in <a href="http://johnharding.com/2009/02/08/is-charles-chip-goodyear-iv-an-impostor/" rel="nofollow">http://johnharding.com/2009/02/08/is-charles-chip-goodyear-iv-an-impostor/</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily SG: 21 Aug 2009</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/tharmans-public-interest-remark-removed-by-straits-times/comment-page-2/#comment-98040</link>
		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily SG: 21 Aug 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] GIC, Temasek State Fund Investments - TOC: Tharman’s “public interest” remark removed by Straits Times [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] GIC, Temasek State Fund Investments &#8211; TOC: Tharman’s “public interest” remark removed by Straits Times [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BeThankful</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/tharmans-public-interest-remark-removed-by-straits-times/comment-page-2/#comment-98032</link>
		<dc:creator>BeThankful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;By equating them with prostitutes is an insult to the latter…

Ya lor...at least the latter gives us VALUE FOR MONEY   :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;By equating them with prostitutes is an insult to the latter…</p>
<p>Ya lor&#8230;at least the latter gives us VALUE FOR MONEY   :)</p>
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		<title>By: lefleche</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/tharmans-public-interest-remark-removed-by-straits-times/comment-page-2/#comment-98028</link>
		<dc:creator>lefleche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always felt very uncomfortable when Tharman takes the stand because my past analysis of what he said always reveals that there is something wrong therefore the govt sends him. in summary:

1. when Bangkok Post published the entire chronology of temasik&#039;s involvement with Thaksin all the way from the setting up of shell companies to the day HC and Thaksin&#039;s wife shook hands listing the names of all involved, the dates accounts/companies were set up even to the place where the 2 honchos shook hands and listed all the laws broken in Thailand during this whole sequence of events, Tharman stood in parliament and said that he is confident that HC/Temasek did not break any laws in Thailand. if that was the case, why didnt Temasek/HC sue BKK Post for so blatantly naming all the offences HC committed?

2. When Tharman defended GIC and said govt not involved in its decision making, then why is almost half of GIC&#039;s board of directors ministers including himself? board of directors who dont get involved? then do they get directors fees..for doing nothing? all those in business know that directors are there for direction and governance and major decisions. even sleeping partners need to know occasionally what is going on so its hard to believe that GIC has half a board of sleeping directors who dont get involved in its running.

3. not to mention the whole episode about saying that drawing of reserves is based on &#039;trust&#039;.

i hope i&#039;m not paranoid to say that there is enough to indicate that whenever he appears, there is something more to it. i&#039;ve always felt that Tharman&#039;s greatest strength is his eloquency. perhaps this is where he comes in most useful - when something is wrong and cannot be revealed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always felt very uncomfortable when Tharman takes the stand because my past analysis of what he said always reveals that there is something wrong therefore the govt sends him. in summary:</p>
<p>1. when Bangkok Post published the entire chronology of temasik&#8217;s involvement with Thaksin all the way from the setting up of shell companies to the day HC and Thaksin&#8217;s wife shook hands listing the names of all involved, the dates accounts/companies were set up even to the place where the 2 honchos shook hands and listed all the laws broken in Thailand during this whole sequence of events, Tharman stood in parliament and said that he is confident that HC/Temasek did not break any laws in Thailand. if that was the case, why didnt Temasek/HC sue BKK Post for so blatantly naming all the offences HC committed?</p>
<p>2. When Tharman defended GIC and said govt not involved in its decision making, then why is almost half of GIC&#8217;s board of directors ministers including himself? board of directors who dont get involved? then do they get directors fees..for doing nothing? all those in business know that directors are there for direction and governance and major decisions. even sleeping partners need to know occasionally what is going on so its hard to believe that GIC has half a board of sleeping directors who dont get involved in its running.</p>
<p>3. not to mention the whole episode about saying that drawing of reserves is based on &#8216;trust&#8217;.</p>
<p>i hope i&#8217;m not paranoid to say that there is enough to indicate that whenever he appears, there is something more to it. i&#8217;ve always felt that Tharman&#8217;s greatest strength is his eloquency. perhaps this is where he comes in most useful &#8211; when something is wrong and cannot be revealed.</p>
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		<title>By: Komenos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Komenos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...reminds me of the novel 1984 where they control the news to control or sway the opinion of the population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;reminds me of the novel 1984 where they control the news to control or sway the opinion of the population.</p>
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