Comments on: PAP will win next two elections: Lee Kuan Yew

By: jiangbao

jiangbao — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 08:41:35 +0000

I think the concern is whether opposition can even field enough people to fight all the seats. I want to vote. No more walkover.. 2 elections already… surely not the 3rd time round..

By: singaman

singaman — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 08:28:22 +0000

Singaporeans i am sad to see we are all in Jurrasic park…..
Very soon FT will dominate you and will earn triple the salary then you although they do the same job as yours.PR will come in with fake degress and will drive posh cars leaving you to take MRT and BUS.

This is already wht is happening…Singapore becomes a landing platform for eurpoean countries.since most of the singaporeans see europeans as a higher cast and seems to bend down whenever they talk.its no point complaining because we fail to stand united.there are many races in singapore someway or the other the chinese look down on the malays and the malays on the indians and so on when a gap is form foreigners take this a chance to penetrate inside.

if you dont see the sitaution in a birds eye view you will forever keep complaning.
A true example that is happening right in front of me…..

A comes to Singapore fm India in the hope to make a living….having life hard finding a job he starts from executive job than goes up to manager than senior manager.

Now senior manager A have a chance to select candidates tell me who will he select singaporean or someone from India

To Him since he came from a hard life in india he will give a priority to the one coming form India or China as singaporean can always find job elsewhere

Now you see the chain reaction and the bottleneck our goverment have put us in.
then it goes on…..do you want to see our granfather working in macdonalds whereas these idiots granfather sit in some faraway land getting money thru western union.

Wake up !!

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By: exsingaporean

exsingaporean — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:21:21 +0000

The implications of MM LKY of the scenario of a opposition,’s victory in future elections amount to nothing but absolute blackmail of the hardworking citizens that they would not be able to enjoy their fruits of their labour i.e. their cpf savings. Mind you, the present govt. by their rules and constant changing policies have no intentions of doing so anyway. So what have u guys got to lose, pray tell me. Stop living in cuckoo land guys and wake up to the years of deceit and broken promises and vote with your conscience

By: mice is nice

mice is nice — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:32:26 +0000

maybe the old man will see PAP fall in front of him, den kick bucket (cannot tahan?)? lol…

By: borderless

borderless — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:50:22 +0000

If the Dear Leader goes, the PAP goes with him. So it’s all dependent on how long more he is around. If he sees himself living to 96 then maybe PAP will win the next two elections. Once his other half goes, it will take a heavy toll on him. It appears his lifelong partner may not live longer than him.

By: Daniel

Daniel — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:19:58 +0000

“Sadly all the early co-founders were written out of Singapore history.”

Worry not. Very sure many will remember LKY just like they remember Hilter. History will never allow blind eyes to dictatorship, tyranny and oppression.

“The truth, as Mr Seow recounts in his book To Catch A Tartar, was that he had been in discussion with PAP stalwarts Mr Devan Nair (former president) and Dr Toh Chin Chye (former deputy prime minister), who had grown disillusioned with the party they had helped found, to enable the former solicitor-general to take part in the 1988 general elections as an opposition candidate.”
http://yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/2791-seelan-palay-submits-francis-seow-video-for-rating

This means that even founders of original PAP have agreed that old fart and his leegime went too far oppressing the people that they help Francis Seow to setup opp party to bring the PAP back to earth. So if we want to pay respect and homage to all founders of PAP (except for the old fart who create his version of greedy PAP known as New PAP ) , we should boot out the New PAP out in next election.

By: George

George — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:00:22 +0000

The early founders and contributors to PAP were Dr Toh Chin Chye, Dr Goh Keng Swee, Lim Chin Siong, Devan Nair, S Rajaratnam and Lim Kim San and many more. Sadly all the early co-founders were written out of Singapore history. The name all Singaporean know is LKY.It just goes to show what type of person he is.He took all the glory when in the 80s he persuaded all the old guards to step down to make room for the younger generation but he remained to this day. To top it all, he dominated his son to lead PAP – the birth of the Lee Dynasty?How many of our younger generation is familiar with the names of the early leaders?
Do any one out there know whether the children of the first generation leader is in the present government?

By: George

George — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:56:00 +0000

When a political party remained in power for a long time as in the case of PAP since 1959, it is difficult for them to contemplate defeat and out of power. It seemed that they had owned us and the country. Our country had lack checks and balances since independence when the Barisan socialist party was destroyed, all its founders were put in prison under ISA. We were all spectators and none of us fight to keep the opposition. We took in everything we were told. There were communist and out to destroy Singapore. When PAP suceeded in destroying the opposition they also made sure that there was none to replace it. They literally do what they want as there was no one to ask question and challenge any unpopular policies. Generally, the majority population stayed out of politic, more interested in making money and bringing in food for the family. A few brave souls that did, spent many years in prison and we Singaporean did nothing about it. Partly, we lack a figure head to organise any protest. There was a total lack of interest in politic and PAP was left to do what they like regardless. The issue that got Singaporean interested was the wages paid to ministers when it was first announced. But when it went ahead, the issue die down soon after. There was no fellow up as the was no one to organise and keep the issue in the public mind. PAP total control of the media had a big role in creating public apathy toward issue of importance to the country. PAP had discouraged open debates on most issues. Importing large number of FT/FW is anther example. Changes to CPF rules is another issue that had a great impact on Singaporean.It was implemented with no consultation, regardless of the social impact it had on the citizens. A totalitarian form of government is in fact what we have for many years. We must wake up and do what is necessary to restore democracy in our country

By: George

George — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:31:36 +0000

By: mice is nice

mice is nice — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 05:34:34 +0000

maybe the police, army & civil service will vote the pappies out, who knows?

By: leesjuanpat

leesjuanpat — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 04:17:44 +0000

#340
MM LKY has passed his era. His rhetorics of a freak election and what not is spoken by a man who do not know how to let go when still in glory. He is clinging on to his last breath enjoying the 3.2 million annual paycheck when the poor and destitute Sporeans are living a hard existence.

In a democracy, chosen by the people, a new government controls all aspect of live and the citizens. LKY is instlling fear to the ignorant about the police, the army and civil service etc will not be controlled by the elected opposition in his term of ‘freak’ election. LKY is testing the intelligence of Sporeans. He is such an old fool now.

Please we beg you, exit gracefully and live your reminiscences of your glory days
with your grand children and maybe with better karma, you can see your great grand children like my mother now at 93 years old. Poor but happy and a good heart. My mother will attain enlightment not you.

By: Knowledge Is Power

Knowledge Is Power — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:05:35 +0000

When MM says that if the opposition seize power by “freak” election, he is clearly insulting the integrity of the voting citizens. He is saying that no normal, conscious, intelligent, morally guided citizen can make such monstrous “errors” unless they are freaks. To layer his condemnation to this abomination, he makes it very clear that the newly elected opposition government will NOT have powers over the police force, army and President. Wow, this is a world’s first. Then what is the significance of a democratic election?

There’s no doubt any more that they will not let go and will do whatever necessary to stay in power. They will declare martial law when the opposition wins big. Just wait and see.

It got me thinking why they pay such high salaries to their yes man ministers. While it may sound good on print that it is used to deter corruption, the much bigger political weapon is to BUY support. Imagine those spineless ministers and civil servants earning big bucks-will they goes against their paymasters to fight for an ideal of equality and lose everything? Of course not. Equality is for poor people. The super rich is mighty fine to have the rest of us scrubbing their floors and polishing their cars.

A king is useless if his own army turns against him. Look at all evil regimes, one example, Burma. Why does the junta still stay in power when the people voted Aung San Suu Kyi as their legally elected new leader. It’s the army/police supporting the junta because they are well fed and paid.

So now we have MM the man himself declaring without apology that even if they lose, PAP will still be in power. He has no fear, no regrets, no apologies, no heart, no soul. Let’s see how this saga plays out. It will be a messy affair and history will notoriously remember tyrants far better than saints.

This is what happens when you let a lawyer run a country?

Food for thought:
What’s the difference between God and a lawyer?
=> God doesn’t think he’s a lawyer. ..:P

By: rootless

rootless — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:12:39 +0000

MM should just zip up.

By: ponder

ponder — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:25:50 +0000

dynasty rise and demise…this is just normal cycle of life, whether is pap or the great united states….etc are no exception..

perhaps time is not too far away

By: Yamamoto

Yamamoto — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 09:35:42 +0000

Selective perception, people only see what they want to see….

By: KopitiamApek

KopitiamApek — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 09:19:16 +0000

332) mice is nice

so that they can claim they did not lie (which is true)
what they did not tell you is that they presented a selected part of the whole truth

True lies, as Arnie would say. :)

By: mice is nice

mice is nice — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 08:42:56 +0000

what to do, some people select the facts that look good on them & pass off as the whole thing. true they presented facts, but to do so partially, to distort the real situation.

By: Yamamoto

Yamamoto — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 08:31:54 +0000

@ 315)
If someone is talking about taxes. Income tax ain’t that much, GST still ok…but Perhaps that person can look at the fact that on top of taxes and GST, 20% of your income goes into CPF that is only usable when you buy a flat or you are at that age…so don’t tell me that contribution isn’t significant

so what does that money goes to? into our SWF investment scheme

“the expenditure for politicians and parliamentary appointment holders is tiny when it is compared to the fiscal “stimulus” this year”

that person only check from 1 website? Oh , and why did the person fail to mention that our leaders are getting paid way higher then other world leaders like obama. if you are talking about comparing pay vs fiscal stimulus, look at LHL and stimulus vis-a-vis obama and stimulus…does that tell you anything? please, take things in context, not at the surface value….

Check the fact, what you post is the recurring misconception…so please do not try to tell people here that theirs are…. what you post are just at the surface value, omitting stuff that will contradict your point

By: Yamamoto

Yamamoto — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 08:29:47 +0000

315) check the facts

If you are talking about that. Income tax ain’t that much, GST still ok…but Perhaps you can look at the fact that on top of taxes and GST, 20% of your income goes into CPF that is only usable when you buy a flat or you are at that age…so don’t tell me that contribution isn’t significant

so what does that money goes to? into our SWF investment scheme

“the expenditure for politicians and parliamentary appointment holders is tiny when it is compared to the fiscal “stimulus” this year”

Did you only check from 1 website, or did you fail to notice that our dear leaders can hold other positions in GLC that generates paychecks too? Oh , and why did you fail to mention that our leaders are getting paid way higher then other world leaders like obama. if you are talking about comparing pay vs fiscal stimulus, look at LHL and stimulus vis-a-vis obama and stimulus…does that tell you anything? please, take things in context, not at the surface value….what a joker

“making the MPs work for free doesn’t even help to finance any form of welfare by much”

Paying them at that rate doesn’t seem to produce any noticeable results, maybe only a few manage to shine