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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 08:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of us hoped one day the truth will see the light of day. No body live forever. UK oldest person was 113 year old who passed away a few month ago. No matter how much good deeds one acheived in life when one  squadered it away in old age just simply negate all those good deeds. All we could see are :
1) Greed via legalised corruption
2) uncaring gahment
3) Dictatorship
4) building a dynasty in a supposedly democratic country
5) Nepotism and croynism accepted practices within the ruling party</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of us hoped one day the truth will see the light of day. No body live forever. UK oldest person was 113 year old who passed away a few month ago. No matter how much good deeds one acheived in life when one  squadered it away in old age just simply negate all those good deeds. All we could see are :<br />
1) Greed via legalised corruption<br />
2) uncaring gahment<br />
3) Dictatorship<br />
4) building a dynasty in a supposedly democratic country<br />
5) Nepotism and croynism accepted practices within the ruling party</p>
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		<title>By: reformed hokkien guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>reformed hokkien guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya-Lah,
Passion - for FT of caucasian origin, kow-tow to them but treat Singaporeans much like slaves esp males. After 44 yrs still got NS. Why pay regulars so good salary and in the same time still retain NSF? 

Low crime rates and no corruption in govt agencies alone is not enough. We need leaders that understand people&#039;s plight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya-Lah,<br />
Passion &#8211; for FT of caucasian origin, kow-tow to them but treat Singaporeans much like slaves esp males. After 44 yrs still got NS. Why pay regulars so good salary and in the same time still retain NSF? </p>
<p>Low crime rates and no corruption in govt agencies alone is not enough. We need leaders that understand people&#8217;s plight!</p>
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		<title>By: OnlineShmonline</title>
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		<dc:creator>OnlineShmonline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@88) Daniel on	 September 22nd, 2009 1.10 pm

Seeing how UMNO tried that same sodomy charge at Anuar Ibrahim (despite public laughing behind their back), it works because enough &#039;stakeholders&#039; are involved to make it work.

Same in Singapore. People Applying Power, kind judges and journalists with journalistic integrity all come together to ensure the same old situations resulting in the ungrateful people who oppose the god-like vision of our leaders being taken to task.

btw, you should realize I&#039;m joking about all the qualities in the para above. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@88) Daniel on	 September 22nd, 2009 1.10 pm</p>
<p>Seeing how UMNO tried that same sodomy charge at Anuar Ibrahim (despite public laughing behind their back), it works because enough &#8216;stakeholders&#8217; are involved to make it work.</p>
<p>Same in Singapore. People Applying Power, kind judges and journalists with journalistic integrity all come together to ensure the same old situations resulting in the ungrateful people who oppose the god-like vision of our leaders being taken to task.</p>
<p>btw, you should realize I&#8217;m joking about all the qualities in the para above. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So he was able to walk away from the detention camp (so does that mean he spoke Japanese to the guard) and was later employed by the Japanese as a translator .As pointed out, I am surprised the Japanese would trust a Chinese with such a sensitive position, after killing so many of them.&quot;

No one will trust a person unless the person do something to make the Japanese believe him. Is it that hard to guess what that something is ?


&quot;Someone also mentioned that he was not around for the major historical events like the riots, detension etc. Is this true?&quot;

If he want himself to look good, and yet mastermind all these, why should he be around ? He just to disassociate himself with bad events to make other (scapegoat, dog, lackey) look bad while himself look good.

Like father, like son. It is no hard to see the old fart is imparting this valuable skill to his son. Just look at how the son disappear completely when his decision and action lead to fcuk up and screw up, and using lackeys and dogs to pacify the public, which generally lead to disastrous ramification to his party&#039;s image. 

Unfortunately, such wayang act fool no one, especially in the internet&#039;s age. The problem with old fart is that he keep repeating the same old tricks and not updating those tricks that any people can see through them easily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So he was able to walk away from the detention camp (so does that mean he spoke Japanese to the guard) and was later employed by the Japanese as a translator .As pointed out, I am surprised the Japanese would trust a Chinese with such a sensitive position, after killing so many of them.&#8221;</p>
<p>No one will trust a person unless the person do something to make the Japanese believe him. Is it that hard to guess what that something is ?</p>
<p>&#8220;Someone also mentioned that he was not around for the major historical events like the riots, detension etc. Is this true?&#8221;</p>
<p>If he want himself to look good, and yet mastermind all these, why should he be around ? He just to disassociate himself with bad events to make other (scapegoat, dog, lackey) look bad while himself look good.</p>
<p>Like father, like son. It is no hard to see the old fart is imparting this valuable skill to his son. Just look at how the son disappear completely when his decision and action lead to fcuk up and screw up, and using lackeys and dogs to pacify the public, which generally lead to disastrous ramification to his party&#8217;s image. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, such wayang act fool no one, especially in the internet&#8217;s age. The problem with old fart is that he keep repeating the same old tricks and not updating those tricks that any people can see through them easily.</p>
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		<title>By: Realist</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 04:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So he was able to walk away from the detention camp (so does that mean he spoke Japanese to the guard) and was later employed by the Japanese as a translator .As pointed out, I am surprised the Japanese would trust a Chinese with such a sensitive position, after killing so many of them.  

I am still lost because I remember reading somewhere that he was actually doing underground anti-japanese work and that he was helping the British and thus was a hero of sorts.  It was also mentioned that the Japanese found this out and were trailing him so he had to disappear to Malaysia. Can anyone verify this. 

Its actually amazing that the Japanese, the Communist, the British, the other founding members (those detained under cold storage) all trusted him. Its seems only the Malaysians did not trust him and were wary of him. Someone also mentioned that he was not around for the major historical events like the riots, detension etc. Is this true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So he was able to walk away from the detention camp (so does that mean he spoke Japanese to the guard) and was later employed by the Japanese as a translator .As pointed out, I am surprised the Japanese would trust a Chinese with such a sensitive position, after killing so many of them.  </p>
<p>I am still lost because I remember reading somewhere that he was actually doing underground anti-japanese work and that he was helping the British and thus was a hero of sorts.  It was also mentioned that the Japanese found this out and were trailing him so he had to disappear to Malaysia. Can anyone verify this. </p>
<p>Its actually amazing that the Japanese, the Communist, the British, the other founding members (those detained under cold storage) all trusted him. Its seems only the Malaysians did not trust him and were wary of him. Someone also mentioned that he was not around for the major historical events like the riots, detension etc. Is this true?</p>
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		<title>By: Agent008</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good start?  We would have been much better off if he had left us to the British like Hongkong was.</description>
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		<title>By: Big Brain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Brain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 04:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes JW, I agreed with you 200% that Mr. Lee KY, a good start but a very bad ending. Mr. Lee KY is now mad after power and money and afraid to loose it. Sad to say that he will save a tree and sacrifice the forest. Anything or anyone that comes into his way have to be demolished.

I only have secondary education and am a father of 4 boys with 8 grandchildren. I paid a heavy price for not stopping at two. When my children were young I told them what to do and what not to do. When my boys grown up and knew what was right and what was wrong, I began to release my control over them because if not, I believed that my boys can never be better than me.

Today, my 4 boys are married with 2 children each all Canadian citizens earning good income and living comfortablely. If I were to stopped my first boy from migrating to study in Canada 20 years ago, today my 4 boys may be still single and competing for their 3 basic meals with the FTs.

Each of my boys own a bungalow with 2 cars which don&#039;t cost them a bomb. The only problem is that they cannot visit me but I can visit them and stay any period  I wanted. It is not that they cannot afford but it is the Singapore government that do not permit them come into Singapore because they did not come back to serve the NS.

Why only Singaporean boys must serve NS? Do boy FTs becoming citizen need to serve NS? Do the government trust the services of our own NS boys? Why do we need the Nepalness to guard our mininsters? If you are the employer, will you employ a Singaporean boy who have last served 3 years of his life as an officer and with NS liabilities to age 45  or would you choose to employ a FTs boy with no NS liabilities to age 45 with lower pay and longer working hours? The answer is obvious. My boys were right from the start to stay away from Singapore and have no regrets.

If I have not let my boys have their ways and let them venture their life, today their lives will be a very sad and sorry and competing with the FTs over the miserable low pay. So life can be better for Singapore without the tight control of the PAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes JW, I agreed with you 200% that Mr. Lee KY, a good start but a very bad ending. Mr. Lee KY is now mad after power and money and afraid to loose it. Sad to say that he will save a tree and sacrifice the forest. Anything or anyone that comes into his way have to be demolished.</p>
<p>I only have secondary education and am a father of 4 boys with 8 grandchildren. I paid a heavy price for not stopping at two. When my children were young I told them what to do and what not to do. When my boys grown up and knew what was right and what was wrong, I began to release my control over them because if not, I believed that my boys can never be better than me.</p>
<p>Today, my 4 boys are married with 2 children each all Canadian citizens earning good income and living comfortablely. If I were to stopped my first boy from migrating to study in Canada 20 years ago, today my 4 boys may be still single and competing for their 3 basic meals with the FTs.</p>
<p>Each of my boys own a bungalow with 2 cars which don&#8217;t cost them a bomb. The only problem is that they cannot visit me but I can visit them and stay any period  I wanted. It is not that they cannot afford but it is the Singapore government that do not permit them come into Singapore because they did not come back to serve the NS.</p>
<p>Why only Singaporean boys must serve NS? Do boy FTs becoming citizen need to serve NS? Do the government trust the services of our own NS boys? Why do we need the Nepalness to guard our mininsters? If you are the employer, will you employ a Singaporean boy who have last served 3 years of his life as an officer and with NS liabilities to age 45  or would you choose to employ a FTs boy with no NS liabilities to age 45 with lower pay and longer working hours? The answer is obvious. My boys were right from the start to stay away from Singapore and have no regrets.</p>
<p>If I have not let my boys have their ways and let them venture their life, today their lives will be a very sad and sorry and competing with the FTs over the miserable low pay. So life can be better for Singapore without the tight control of the PAP.</p>
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		<title>By: JW</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/09/passion-and-patriotism/comment-page-2/#comment-105646</link>
		<dc:creator>JW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Lee K Y , a good start but a very bad ending.</description>
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		<title>By: Agent008</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agent008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is selling SG off to China!  What patriotism are we talking about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is selling SG off to China!  What patriotism are we talking about?</p>
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		<title>By: dark secrets</title>
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		<dc:creator>dark secrets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 06:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to 79) True Patriot,    nicely put together.

It is simply too obscene to link the words &#039;Passion and Patriotism&#039; to LKY.
I believe the truth about him and what he stands for will eventually be revealed.

We only need to ask ourselves, &quot;what sort of man will it take to earn the trust of the notorious Japanese and work for them during the occupation of Singapore ?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to 79) True Patriot,    nicely put together.</p>
<p>It is simply too obscene to link the words &#8216;Passion and Patriotism&#8217; to LKY.<br />
I believe the truth about him and what he stands for will eventually be revealed.</p>
<p>We only need to ask ourselves, &#8220;what sort of man will it take to earn the trust of the notorious Japanese and work for them during the occupation of Singapore ?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 06:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;he managed to get away after being gathered with the other chinese at the holding area by fooling a Japanese guard into allowing him to go home to retrive some personal belongings and never returning.&quot;

Wow, a Japanese guard so fool-able than Singaporean ? Why should a guard let his victim go and get this thing if the guard know that that the victim is going to die 100% anyway,  and to allow his thing for what ? To fix the Japanese and buy his vote ? LKY think he going for some vocation using Jetplane like he does currently ?  So the con behaviour start long long time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;he managed to get away after being gathered with the other chinese at the holding area by fooling a Japanese guard into allowing him to go home to retrive some personal belongings and never returning.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow, a Japanese guard so fool-able than Singaporean ? Why should a guard let his victim go and get this thing if the guard know that that the victim is going to die 100% anyway,  and to allow his thing for what ? To fix the Japanese and buy his vote ? LKY think he going for some vocation using Jetplane like he does currently ?  So the con behaviour start long long time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Stewart Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Stewart Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 06:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool article.

68) OnlineShmonline on September 18th, 2009 9.29 am 
Yes there are people of his age who know a lot about what actually went on off the record. They are still around but won&#039;t be for long. I know of 4 personally and there are no doubt more. There are numerous civil servants from the 50&#039;s and 60&#039;s too who did the work and could show the current crop of civil servants a thing of 2 about serving the people.

Singapore is and must be for Singaporeans first.
The people must step up and do what they know is best for the country.
The country is for you and you all- each and every one - have to let this be known.
To do anything less is to demonstrate apathy and confirms that the people are content with the status quo.
Embrace your individual power and empower yourselves to make a change.

Singapore has soooooo much still to offer the world in so many ways by being a place that looks after its people first. Do this and the comfort  of happiness and content will be there as you all know it can be. 
Don&#039;t lose the uniquely Singaporean Identity that once made the country an inspiration and can make it  the inspiration to all it was meant to be once more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool article.</p>
<p>68) OnlineShmonline on September 18th, 2009 9.29 am<br />
Yes there are people of his age who know a lot about what actually went on off the record. They are still around but won&#8217;t be for long. I know of 4 personally and there are no doubt more. There are numerous civil servants from the 50&#8242;s and 60&#8242;s too who did the work and could show the current crop of civil servants a thing of 2 about serving the people.</p>
<p>Singapore is and must be for Singaporeans first.<br />
The people must step up and do what they know is best for the country.<br />
The country is for you and you all- each and every one &#8211; have to let this be known.<br />
To do anything less is to demonstrate apathy and confirms that the people are content with the status quo.<br />
Embrace your individual power and empower yourselves to make a change.</p>
<p>Singapore has soooooo much still to offer the world in so many ways by being a place that looks after its people first. Do this and the comfort  of happiness and content will be there as you all know it can be.<br />
Don&#8217;t lose the uniquely Singaporean Identity that once made the country an inspiration and can make it  the inspiration to all it was meant to be once more.</p>
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		<title>By: True Patriot Down South</title>
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		<dc:creator>True Patriot Down South</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>58) Yamamoto on September 17th, 2009 9.05 pm I still remember back in the 90s, i saw a “comic” that talk about some history of singapore. They were selling it in school and somehow there is one part that tries to portray LKY as a hero. who was nearly round up and manage to escape….

anybody remember it? 
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Yes it was a &quot;Historical&quot; comic (title was along the lines of riding the tiger or taming the tiger) allegedly about Singapore&#039;s stuggle for independance.
The book was basically the Mr.Lee/PAP version of your typical Marvel Super Hero comic what with all those bulging  muscles. They may as well have dressed him up in a red cape with the cresent moon and stars.

Anyway......about Mr.Lee escaping from the sook ching round up and subsequent massacre, it seemed that according to Mr.Lee&#039;s on account, he managed to get away after being gathered with the other chinese at the holding area by fooling a Japanese guard into allowing him to go home to retrive some personal belongings and never returning. Now lets put this into perspective:

1. Most of us guys have been in the SAF. Even as a soldier in  wayang outfit like the SAF will you let anyone go just like that after all the bloody effort taken to round the whole lot up?

2. What belongings? As far as historical accounts by survivors go, they were told to bring only a limited food supply, perhaps a few articles of clothing. Can you imagine a Japanese soldier saying :&#039; oh poor thing, you did not follow our instructions and came empty handed? its ok, run along and get it now.&#039;

3. People who were not massacred were given a crude pass stamped on their body or a piece of cloth or paper which will allow them minimum restricted safe passage and some freedom to move around (not always of course). Having run away Mr.Lee would not have had a valid pass but amazingly he not only managed to survive but also obtain employment with the Japanese!

Total BS if you ask me. Smells like a ton of fish left in the sun.
Another fact about Mr Lee&#039;s conduct during WW2: He was a Black marketeer
selling tapioca-based glue called Stikfas. Now we all know that in times of hardship more often than not the black market is all about exploitation. Who do you think were his products aimed at?

Someone fetch a lynch rope please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>58) Yamamoto on September 17th, 2009 9.05 pm I still remember back in the 90s, i saw a “comic” that talk about some history of singapore. They were selling it in school and somehow there is one part that tries to portray LKY as a hero. who was nearly round up and manage to escape….</p>
<p>anybody remember it?<br />
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<p>Yes it was a &#8220;Historical&#8221; comic (title was along the lines of riding the tiger or taming the tiger) allegedly about Singapore&#8217;s stuggle for independance.<br />
The book was basically the Mr.Lee/PAP version of your typical Marvel Super Hero comic what with all those bulging  muscles. They may as well have dressed him up in a red cape with the cresent moon and stars.</p>
<p>Anyway&#8230;&#8230;about Mr.Lee escaping from the sook ching round up and subsequent massacre, it seemed that according to Mr.Lee&#8217;s on account, he managed to get away after being gathered with the other chinese at the holding area by fooling a Japanese guard into allowing him to go home to retrive some personal belongings and never returning. Now lets put this into perspective:</p>
<p>1. Most of us guys have been in the SAF. Even as a soldier in  wayang outfit like the SAF will you let anyone go just like that after all the bloody effort taken to round the whole lot up?</p>
<p>2. What belongings? As far as historical accounts by survivors go, they were told to bring only a limited food supply, perhaps a few articles of clothing. Can you imagine a Japanese soldier saying :&#8217; oh poor thing, you did not follow our instructions and came empty handed? its ok, run along and get it now.&#8217;</p>
<p>3. People who were not massacred were given a crude pass stamped on their body or a piece of cloth or paper which will allow them minimum restricted safe passage and some freedom to move around (not always of course). Having run away Mr.Lee would not have had a valid pass but amazingly he not only managed to survive but also obtain employment with the Japanese!</p>
<p>Total BS if you ask me. Smells like a ton of fish left in the sun.<br />
Another fact about Mr Lee&#8217;s conduct during WW2: He was a Black marketeer<br />
selling tapioca-based glue called Stikfas. Now we all know that in times of hardship more often than not the black market is all about exploitation. Who do you think were his products aimed at?</p>
<p>Someone fetch a lynch rope please.</p>
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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily SG: 17 Sep 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily SG: 17 Sep 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 03:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - Sgpolitics.net: Men In White — Another example of PAP’s “managed dissent” strategy - TOC: Passion And Patriotism (PAP) - Rachel Zeng&#8217;s blog: Just for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; Sgpolitics.net: Men In White — Another example of PAP’s “managed dissent” strategy &#8211; TOC: Passion And Patriotism (PAP) &#8211; Rachel Zeng&#8217;s blog: Just for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tamtomo</title>
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		<dc:creator>tamtomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LKY is afflicted with P.P.S. - Post Power Syndrome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LKY is afflicted with P.P.S. &#8211; Post Power Syndrome.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I wonder if any other the tranlation work he did inevitably led to the torture and death of any of his countrymen.&quot;

What do you think one can translate during WW2 ? Translating Japanese literature work to English ? Or translating Chinese informer/traiter information to Japanese killer that lead to the capture and death of Singapore patriots ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I wonder if any other the tranlation work he did inevitably led to the torture and death of any of his countrymen.&#8221;</p>
<p>What do you think one can translate during WW2 ? Translating Japanese literature work to English ? Or translating Chinese informer/traiter information to Japanese killer that lead to the capture and death of Singapore patriots ?</p>
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		<title>By: grundig</title>
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		<dc:creator>grundig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Singapore was not built by one man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Singapore was not built by one man.</p>
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		<title>By: collaborator</title>
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		<dc:creator>collaborator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put aside his later life and anything he did afterward, his war time collaboration was truly disgusting. I wonder if any other the tranlation work he did inevitably led to the torture and death of any of his countrymen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put aside his later life and anything he did afterward, his war time collaboration was truly disgusting. I wonder if any other the tranlation work he did inevitably led to the torture and death of any of his countrymen.</p>
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		<title>By: Yue Fei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yue Fei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 06:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>62) notalone on September 18th, 2009 1.23 am 

Hello,
Anyone who knows the characteristics and culture of Japanese, you would know that they would never trust outsiders to do highly confidential work especially in a war time.

So, why should they trust the 19 years bright kid ?

and MM said, he went hiding after he noticed that Japanese military police in WW2 Kempeitai trailed him... how capable was he to escape from the notorious Kempeitai, while more than 50,000 Singaporean adults were arrested and died in massacre ?

There are plenty of loopholes in his story

Do you notice that in past 44 years since Singapore gained indeoendent, our relationship with Japan was super good and hardly a demand for war compensation except we begged them to come in for investment ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>62) notalone on September 18th, 2009 1.23 am </p>
<p>Hello,<br />
Anyone who knows the characteristics and culture of Japanese, you would know that they would never trust outsiders to do highly confidential work especially in a war time.</p>
<p>So, why should they trust the 19 years bright kid ?</p>
<p>and MM said, he went hiding after he noticed that Japanese military police in WW2 Kempeitai trailed him&#8230; how capable was he to escape from the notorious Kempeitai, while more than 50,000 Singaporean adults were arrested and died in massacre ?</p>
<p>There are plenty of loopholes in his story</p>
<p>Do you notice that in past 44 years since Singapore gained indeoendent, our relationship with Japan was super good and hardly a demand for war compensation except we begged them to come in for investment ?</p>
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		<title>By: Stranger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 05:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>XD@70, this is a loaded article. lots of subtlities. Especially aimed at someone who has a hatchet in his bag and fights with knuckle-dusters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>XD@70, this is a loaded article. lots of subtlities. Especially aimed at someone who has a hatchet in his bag and fights with knuckle-dusters.</p>
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