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	<title>Comments on: GIC may lose big on investment in apartments</title>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/gic-may-lose-big-on-investment-in-apartments/comment-page-1/#comment-126173</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How ironic.  On the one hand Mr. Teo Ser Luck on the SAA funding fiasco mentioned that since the money (funding of S$900,000 to the SAA) comes from tax payers money, the SSC has to be extra careful on how the money is spent.  Now that Billions of Singapore Tax payers dollars have been lost through GIC and TH, no one is accountable, and no investigation is done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How ironic.  On the one hand Mr. Teo Ser Luck on the SAA funding fiasco mentioned that since the money (funding of S$900,000 to the SAA) comes from tax payers money, the SSC has to be extra careful on how the money is spent.  Now that Billions of Singapore Tax payers dollars have been lost through GIC and TH, no one is accountable, and no investigation is done.</p>
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		<title>By: New Era</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/gic-may-lose-big-on-investment-in-apartments/comment-page-1/#comment-110925</link>
		<dc:creator>New Era</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GIC and Temasek appear to be in the business of losing money. 
Suzhou was a huge loss and so was Batam Industrial Park.

I am sure Thaksin Shinawatra will tell you that Temasek is bad news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GIC and Temasek appear to be in the business of losing money.<br />
Suzhou was a huge loss and so was Batam Industrial Park.</p>
<p>I am sure Thaksin Shinawatra will tell you that Temasek is bad news.</p>
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		<title>By: FeverGuy</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/gic-may-lose-big-on-investment-in-apartments/comment-page-1/#comment-110912</link>
		<dc:creator>FeverGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greedy Idiotic Cowards. GIC. 575 millions can feed 100000 poor families for 30 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greedy Idiotic Cowards. GIC. 575 millions can feed 100000 poor families for 30 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Where are we heading</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/gic-may-lose-big-on-investment-in-apartments/comment-page-1/#comment-110898</link>
		<dc:creator>Where are we heading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I first read about SG Govt&#039;s libel suit against the Wall Street Journal, I was incredibly bewildered.  I thought they should know better that WSJ is outside SG, not like they can be oppressed.  It is the beginning of a good showdown.  If a major medium chooses to back a political party, it is halfway to success, the opposite and the party is likely to be doomed. Lets see if this is the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first read about SG Govt&#8217;s libel suit against the Wall Street Journal, I was incredibly bewildered.  I thought they should know better that WSJ is outside SG, not like they can be oppressed.  It is the beginning of a good showdown.  If a major medium chooses to back a political party, it is halfway to success, the opposite and the party is likely to be doomed. Lets see if this is the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Lydia Lim Mui Hum</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/gic-may-lose-big-on-investment-in-apartments/comment-page-1/#comment-110881</link>
		<dc:creator>Lydia Lim Mui Hum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is why many intellectuals have been calling for Transparency.

If any loss, its not about wealth loss of a billionare. ITs the Loss of the People&#039;s Money. 

So, as you can see, i do not know IF there is any loss.
I am speaking from a technical angle.

Its either  full transparency or  there is no full transparency. Yes, i meant it to be an oxymoron.

But do you know what i mean, that is all.

But then as long as singaporeans continue to accept. There is no need for CHANGE. ITs now in the hands of singaporeans. they decide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is why many intellectuals have been calling for Transparency.</p>
<p>If any loss, its not about wealth loss of a billionare. ITs the Loss of the People&#8217;s Money. </p>
<p>So, as you can see, i do not know IF there is any loss.<br />
I am speaking from a technical angle.</p>
<p>Its either  full transparency or  there is no full transparency. Yes, i meant it to be an oxymoron.</p>
<p>But do you know what i mean, that is all.</p>
<p>But then as long as singaporeans continue to accept. There is no need for CHANGE. ITs now in the hands of singaporeans. they decide.</p>
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		<title>By: Fortune-teller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fortune-teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They must have thought the compensation would be similar to what happens in Singapore...pay some measly amount to the owners to make it state land and then sell it off through expensive HDB pigeon holes.

Just goes to show that our elites will always be thinking frogs living in a well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They must have thought the compensation would be similar to what happens in Singapore&#8230;pay some measly amount to the owners to make it state land and then sell it off through expensive HDB pigeon holes.</p>
<p>Just goes to show that our elites will always be thinking frogs living in a well.</p>
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		<title>By: sukasuka</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/gic-may-lose-big-on-investment-in-apartments/comment-page-1/#comment-110840</link>
		<dc:creator>sukasuka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After having the grandeur experience of losing $58 000 000 000 ($58BILLIONS), what&#039;s $575M ?? That&#039;s not even 1%, it&#039;s just PEANUTS for heaven&#039;s sake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After having the grandeur experience of losing $58 000 000 000 ($58BILLIONS), what&#8217;s $575M ?? That&#8217;s not even 1%, it&#8217;s just PEANUTS for heaven&#8217;s sake.</p>
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		<title>By: popcorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>popcorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 04:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Managing Director of GIC, Peter Ng, is in charge of sourcing investment opportunities for GIC and bringing them up for assesment and approval during Board meetings. He should come out of the protected closet and brief Singaporeans on how many more such investments gone wrong, or else we
would keep on guessing and coming to wrong conclusions ourselves.
The Govt may insists GIC Reserves belong to the State, but Reserves are accumulated from the hard work of Singaporeans, so in effect belong to the people. We have the right to know.
It is not good we receive information only from foreigners outside the country.
This state of affairs breed suspicions and loss of trust in the capabilities of those manning our reserves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Managing Director of GIC, Peter Ng, is in charge of sourcing investment opportunities for GIC and bringing them up for assesment and approval during Board meetings. He should come out of the protected closet and brief Singaporeans on how many more such investments gone wrong, or else we<br />
would keep on guessing and coming to wrong conclusions ourselves.<br />
The Govt may insists GIC Reserves belong to the State, but Reserves are accumulated from the hard work of Singaporeans, so in effect belong to the people. We have the right to know.<br />
It is not good we receive information only from foreigners outside the country.<br />
This state of affairs breed suspicions and loss of trust in the capabilities of those manning our reserves.</p>
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		<title>By: NotWorth</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/gic-may-lose-big-on-investment-in-apartments/comment-page-1/#comment-110823</link>
		<dc:creator>NotWorth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Losing 500+m by GIC is probably not worthy of mention these days!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Losing 500+m by GIC is probably not worthy of mention these days!</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur Lee</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/gic-may-lose-big-on-investment-in-apartments/comment-page-1/#comment-110816</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its paid back time for GIC for getting involved in such kind of deal - kicking the low and middle income tenants out of their existing home... this is suck blood money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its paid back time for GIC for getting involved in such kind of deal &#8211; kicking the low and middle income tenants out of their existing home&#8230; this is suck blood money.</p>
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		<title>By: ronin</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/gic-may-lose-big-on-investment-in-apartments/comment-page-1/#comment-110803</link>
		<dc:creator>ronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 02:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has been 2 days and the State Times still dare not report this potential big loss of GIC. Maybe ST is thinking of how best to word the article to not make GIC look so bad??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been 2 days and the State Times still dare not report this potential big loss of GIC. Maybe ST is thinking of how best to word the article to not make GIC look so bad??</p>
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		<title>By: OnlineShmonline</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/gic-may-lose-big-on-investment-in-apartments/comment-page-1/#comment-110781</link>
		<dc:creator>OnlineShmonline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember reading about that Blackrock purchase of those subsidised housing units in prime NYC locations (and how the existing tenants faced the fear of being kicked out or having their previously low rentals hiked up to the moon).

I suppose GIC jumped in based on Blackrock&#039;s potential property gains. As with alot of GIC (and Temasek)&#039;s ventures outside of Singapore, they went in with the crowd instead of doing sufficient due diligence. 

I&#039;m still amused by companies paying high salaries to employees who buy high and redeem low. I guess they&#039;re getting good salaries because nobody else would hire such talents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember reading about that Blackrock purchase of those subsidised housing units in prime NYC locations (and how the existing tenants faced the fear of being kicked out or having their previously low rentals hiked up to the moon).</p>
<p>I suppose GIC jumped in based on Blackrock&#8217;s potential property gains. As with alot of GIC (and Temasek)&#8217;s ventures outside of Singapore, they went in with the crowd instead of doing sufficient due diligence. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m still amused by companies paying high salaries to employees who buy high and redeem low. I guess they&#8217;re getting good salaries because nobody else would hire such talents.</p>
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		<title>By: Ah Siao</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ah Siao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha,

Looks like the closet is opening! 

The govt had always taken WSJ seriously and always want the right to reply. See what they have to say this time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha,</p>
<p>Looks like the closet is opening! </p>
<p>The govt had always taken WSJ seriously and always want the right to reply. See what they have to say this time!</p>
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